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  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2008

    I sure don't want to leap into the fray with this thread. But I think the discussion might be more helpful if the phrase "early stage cancer" was been further clarified. There's a lot of difference between low grade DCIS and a stage 2 grade 3 with lymphovascular invasion. Yet both are sometimes called "early". I would suspect that we all could agree that the risk/benefit analysis would look quite different in these different cases. And I think we would also all agree that doctors should (and some of them do) look at each case individually when making recommendations for adjuvant treatment.

  • MarieKelly
    MarieKelly Member Posts: 591
    edited July 2008

    Revat,  You're not leaping into a fray by posting something here. Everyone is entited to speak their mind as long as it's done respectfully.  In fact, you've raise a very good point about the how the question in the topic of this thread was worded.  As you've noted, "early stage" breast cancer is a rather vague term since it encompasses a wide variety of differences in breast cancers -  each with sometimes very, very different levels of risk recurrence.  "Early stage"  at diagnosis just means it is considered to be confined to the breast and/or axillary nodes.  An "early stage" breast cancer could mean stage 0 non-invasive disease OR stage 1 with a tumor less than 2cm. But early stage ALSO includes breast cancer that is stage 2 with lymph node involvment and even stage 3A in which the tumor could be as large as 5 cm with very significant node involvment.  So early stage is essentially everything that hasn't been found to be distantly metastatic...and that's a whole lot of variety!!

    The collective phrase "early breast cancer" tells you absolutely nothing about numerous other important prognostic factors that are also taken into consideration along with staging  when trying to decide whether a tumor is high risk for local or distant recurrence. That phrase standing alone gives no information about age, grade, margin status, vessel invasion, surgical treatment planned or recieved, Her 2 status, hormone receptivity, proliferation rate, BRCA gene status etc etc. etc.

    And yes, I definately agree that risk/benefit analysis is very important...which is exactly why I have such a high level of concern about treating, particularly regarding radiation, low risk breast cancers under the same standard umbrella used to treat higher risk tumors.  The risk/benefit ratio is very different when the tumor is the low risk variety and also very different when co-morbities exist. A 30-40-50% relative risk reduction across the board for radiation after lumpectomy yields very different absolute benefits depending on the individual factors. The mere fact that every single trial ever done involving radiation vs no radiation after lumpectomy shows that the majority do not reoccur without radiation, even over long term follow up, leaves absolutely no doubt that a huge number of women are being radiated after lumpectomy without recieving any benefit whatsoever for having done so. For all these women, the risk/benefit ratio was all risk and no benefit.   

    While I'm very sure we all agree that doctors should look at each case individually when recommending treatment, I'm not at all convinced that this actually happens anywhere near as often as it should. I think it's the exception rather than the rule. Most treat strictly by standard of care, especially when it comes to radiation - with low and high risk lumped together under the same plan of care.  I can tell you for an absolute fact that the radiation oncologist I consulted with took nothing about my personal circumstances into consideration.  He TOLD me what I was going to have done and was not the least bit interested in hearing any input or concerns from me about it.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Actually MDB, I suspect my overall risk threshold is higher than yours.  I just don't see the point of taking stupid risks with life of the mother of my young children.  Nobody can tell my wife what her absolute risk is because nobody knows the chances of cancer cells remaining in her breast from her 1.3 cm, grade 2 tumor, after surgery.  All they know for sure is that the Pathologist did not detect anything in her lymph nodes.  And of course you are right.  We are all going to die someday of something.  So why worry about it.  Still when I drive, I wear my seat belt.  When I scuba-dive, I make sure my equipment, including pressure gauge and regulator are in good shape, when I ski, I sometimes where a helmet but still ski far faster than I should.  And when I daily trade stocks, I am sometimes as much gambling as investing, but its fun.
  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2008

    MarieKelly, I am sorry your radiation oncologist was such a jerk. My first medical oncologist was like that "I want you in this study, we need to be aggressive". And I had come to the appointment wanting to discuss all the options, risk/benefits, new research about chemo and ER+! I quickly asked for a different onc (I'm in an HMO so it was just someone different in the same department, but at least she would talk to me.)

    OTOH, I had a consultation with the rad onco before surgery so I could be fully informed about options -- we discussed when rads were needed, different types and when they could be used, etc.

    And you are absolutely correct that surgery alone is all a majority of women need. Hopefully new research will help figure out who those women are -- like the oncotype is doing for chemo. Someone earlier in the thread cited a study that had some parameters -- age, margins, grade -- it's a beginning.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    January 15, 2007

    Predicting Recurrence

    By Beth W. Orenstein

    Radiology Today

    Vol. 8 No. 1 P. 20

    Researchers at Tufts_New England Medical Center are seeking a mathematical model to assess which women are likely to have their cancer return in an effort to safely spare some unnecessary radiation therapy.

    Some women with early_stage breast cancer may only minimally benefit from radiation therapy, yet choosing who those patients are is clinically very difficult. Researchers at Tufts_New England Medical Center in Boston are working on a computer tool that may help solve this dilemma. The tool in development uses risk factors associated with breast cancer recurring in the same breast after breast_conserving surgery (BCS) to predict the likelihood of that happening.

    Mona Sanghani, MD, lead author of the abstract, presented this work at the 48th annual meeting of the American Society for Therapeutic Radiology and Oncology (ASTRO) in Philadelphia in November 2006. Their paper was titled "Predicting the Risk of Local Recurrence in Patients With Breast Cancer: An Approach to a New Computer Based Predictive Tool."

    "There are some patients who are at extremely low risk of the cancer coming back," Sanghani says. "This might help identify who those patients are."

    Sanghani adds that when discussing treatment options with patients, physicians may feel more comfortable if they have such a tool. Also, the tool could help patients decide their course of treatment. "Maybe looking at more concrete numbers might help them decide one way or another," she says.

    Even though the tool may be available online, Sanghani says, it is not intended for patients to make a decision on their own, but for them to use it when discussing the benefits of radiation treatment with their physicians.

    According to the American Cancer Society, breast cancer is the most common type of cancer in American women. Every year, more than 210,000 women and 1,700 men are newly diagnosed with breast cancer.

    If caught early, breast cancer can often be cured; approximately 80% of patients with breast cancer remain free of the disease 10 years after being diagnosed. Thanks to public education and proactive screening programs, small tumors are being found earlier in a greater percentage of women.

    Breast cancers are considered early stage-stages 1 and 2-if they are not fixed to the skin or muscle. Also, if lymph nodes are involved, the nodes are not fixed to each other or to underlying structures.

    Current Options

    If the cancer is in its early stages when discovered, the current standard treatments are mastectomy or BCS followed by radiation therapy to kill any remaining cancer cells. External beam radiation therapy involves six to eight weeks of daily treatment. BCS is regarded as preferable to mastectomy and axillary dissection in most cases because studies have shown that survival rates are equivalent and BCS preserves the breast.

    Standard breast_conservation therapy includes radiation therapy (typically external beam radiation, but sometimes brachytherapy procedures are used to shorten the radiation treatment) because studies have shown a higher recurrence rate in women who do not receive radiation. The Tufts studies compared randomized trials of women who had BCS with radiation therapy with randomized trials of women who had BCS without radiation therapy.

    Radiation therapy has side effects. While most are manageable, Sanghani says, side effects can include fatigue, which often increases as the treatments progress. Also, changes and burns can occur in the breast skin and occasionally, and the breast can change color or size or can become permanently firm. Radiation therapy also increases the woman's risk of developing other cancers, such as soft tissue malignancies known as sarcomas. Sanghani says probably the biggest drawback of radiation therapy is that it is a significant investment of time for the patient.

    Still, Sanghani adds, the researchers were not as concerned about avoiding the side effects of radiation, or the time for treatment, as they were about having women undergo the treatment when they would not necessarily benefit from it.

    "We found that in speaking with people in the oncology community about it, it seems that patients are really walking the fine line as to attribution, whether or not they will get significant benefit from radiation therapy," Sanghani says. "The benefit does vary from person to person. So I think the tool will be most useful when you are looking at patients who are uncertain as to whether or not they want radiation and may be looking for data to back their choices."

    Researchers developed the formula by looking at the following seven risk factors associated with recurrence in the same breast after BCS:

    • patient age;
    • margin status;
    • lymphovascular invasion (LVI);
    • tumor size;
    • tumor grade;
    • use of chemotherapy; and
    • use of the drug tamoxifen.

    Finding Key Variables

    To study the risk factors, researchers reviewed all available randomized trials of BCS alone vs. BCS plus radiation therapy. They also reviewed meta_analyses and institutional reports. "We preferred to use randomized trials in breast_conserving therapy. However, we did include single institutions and retrospective trials if we felt like they added value to our knowledge," Sanghani says.

    The studies had been published in the last 10 to 15 years, she says, and they had, on average, eight to 10 studies for each risk factor.

    In the model, patient age groups are under the age of 40, then five_year increments up to the age of 70, and then age 70 and older. Margin status is: positive, 0 to 2 millimeters or greater than 2 millimeters. LVI is yes or no. Tumor size is less than 1 centimeter or greater than 1 centimeter. Tumor grade is low, intermediate, or high. Use of chemotherapy and use of tamoxifen is also yes or no.

    Each risk factor was given a weight-the higher its importance in predicting recurrence, the higher it was weighted. "Then we combined all the risk factors in a mathematical model that we could use to predict the rate of recurrence for each patient," Sanghani says. When the patient's data is entered into the model, it predicts the likelihood of local recurrence within nine years.

    For example, if a 48_year_old woman with a 1.8 centimeter, grade 2 tumor, with no LVI, margin status of 1 millimeter, who had chemotherapy and was taking tamoxifen and had radiation therapy, the model predicted a 7% chance of local recurrence with radiation therapy and a 36% chance without it. In that case, she would meet the benefit requirements. A second case is of a 75_year_old woman with a tumor size of 0.4 millimeters, grade 1 tumor, no LVI, margin status of 2 millimeters, no chemotherapy and no tamoxifen; the model predicted a local recurrence rate of 2% with radiation therapy and 8% without. That may be a case where the woman would not see a significant enough benefit to warrant undergoing radiation therapy.

    Defining Additional Benefit

    Sanghani says radiation oncologists like to see at least a 10% benefit from the therapy. "If the patient is only going to see a 2% to 3% benefit, it may not be an important treatment, and she may wish to consider not having it," she says.

    The next step is to validate the study. "Now that we developed the model, it must be validated by independent clinical data. Only then can it be widely used," Sanghani says.

    Carol L. Kornmehl, MD, FACRO, is a board_certified radiation oncologist at Passaic (N.J.) Beth Israel Regional Medical Center and author of The Best News About Radiation Therapy: How to Cope and Survive. She is also a clinical assistant professor of radiation oncology at Hahnemann University Hospital in Philadelphia.

    Kornmehl believes that once the model is validated, it will become a valuable tool to radiation oncologists and their breast cancer patients.

    "Once there is enough data-tens of thousands of women on the study-then we can have a comfort level with the tool," she says. "Until then, I think it would be premature to recommend not following BCS with radiation therapy."

    Kornmehl expects it will take at least five to 10 years for the data to be acquired and of value. If cancer recurs in the same breast, it usually does so in two to three years, "but there can be recurrences after that," she says.

    Because of that possibility, Kornmehl would like to see the data for five years and beyond. "If you have 10,000 women who are disease_free for a year, that doesn't mean anything; but if they are disease_free for 10 years, you would feel more comfortable recommending they might not want to undergo radiation therapy because the data would support that decision.

    "I think I would feel comfortable saying to a patient, ‘We have 10_year data that suggests your risk factors are X, Y, and Z, and so the computer model shows chances of local recurrence without radiation therapy [are] slim, and you might consider not having it,'" she says.

    Meanwhile, she says, she would not be comfortable recommending against follow_up radiation therapy. "I think the greatest risk is not taking one. Clearly, doing radiation is not a free lunch. It puts women at risk for other cancers later on, and there are other side effects. Also, it is inconvenient." However, the data that is currently available shows it is still the best course of treatment, Kornmehl says.

    If the computer model proves that it can clearly identify the subset of women who are not likely to benefit from radiation therapy, then it could change standard practice, Kornmehl adds.

    - Beth W. Orenstein is a freelance health writer and a regular contributor to Radiology Today. She writes from her home in Northampton, Pa.

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited July 2008

    Very cool. Thanks for posting it. I wish we didn't have to wait a few more years to have it available for women to use themselves. As someone before me has said, it is the best of times and the worst of times to have bc. We have good treatments, but they are on the cusp of being able to personalize treatment in so many ways.

  • mdb
    mdb Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2008

    Worried Hubby Posted this article:

    "January 15, 2007

    Predicting RecurrenceBy Beth W. Orenstein

    Radiology Today"

    Wow. Great article! As revkat said, thanks for posting it, I hadn't seen that one.  

    Although, like revkat also said, it is unfortunate that we won't  have any official proof of anything, for years. But it's so encouraging that studies like this are in process. Maybe it will help my 19 year old daughter.

    So, at this point, I truly believe that we all have to make decisions, for ourselves. Based on all available information. And it's VERY hard. Like I've said, I was so conflicted, I actually went to the Radiation SIM appt, before just walking out. Refused to sign the consent form. Everyone reading this knows what I'm talking about. 

    I just could NOT DO IT. It felt so wrong, to me. This radiation. Based on everything that I'd read and everything that I knew, about my own body. And I felt so liberated, after walking out of there. Like this weight, had been lifted, off of me. I'd evaluated the risks, for me, and I did not want to do it. 

    How old is your wife, worried hubby? You mentioned that you had young children, so she must be fairly young.

    In any event, you've made the right choice, for you and your wife. As I have, for me.  

    That is why discussions, like these, are so great. Like MarieKelley said, everyone is entitled to speak their mind. As long as it's done, respectfully.  And we're all civil, here. 

    As I've said, I just had my BiRad1 mammo on both breasts, May, 2008. That is great, two years out, but still sweating this July CT.  For the Leio cancer. I think something is ... wrong. I can feel it. 

    Yet, it is what it is. See what happens, July 23. 

  • MarieKelly
    MarieKelly Member Posts: 591
    edited July 2008

    WorriedHubby,

    That was a great peice of information. Thanks for posting it.  I had never seen it before and I'm very happy to hear the people at Tufts are trying to do something about so many people being radiated for nothing. Just wish things like this wouldn't take 10 years or more before becoming  validated and accepted into everyday practice. But then that's the way it usually is with standards of care.  Once they finally get around to acknowledging something needs to change, it still takes a long, long LONG time before it actually happens.

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited July 2008

    Hi Marie, oh yes, and then, even when it is the accepted treatment, half the old coot docs/oncs won't change anyway!   The poor women caught in their net.  In Europe 70% of women have lumpectomies, and 30% have masts  (there are many very viable reasons for a mast) but here, the numbers are reversed, and no one seems to know why.

    Sheesh, we truly do have to be our own informed consumers, and not be afraid to walk off.

    mdb, what in the heck is your leio cancer?  Never heard of that one, but it doesn't sound like much fun.

    Hugs, Shirl 

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited July 2008

    Shirl, I think the European woman are much more vain about their looks than we are. It is because of French women insisting on just taking out the lumps rather than the whole breast, that lumpectomies were even accepted. After they had such good success with it, it began to catch on here. I work with the French and they are very conscious of how they look. I was with one of my French friends while she changed her clothes and she was was wearing a lacy bra and a thong. Now this may not be so surprising except that she was 60 years old and her husband (happily married) was still in France. I can't imagine many of us American women wearing a thong at 60, even if our hubbies were with us! LOL

    I think Marie is right when she talks about what the standard of care was, is now, and will be. It is because women insist on different treatments that things change. My hope is that the medical community will someday emphasize diet and exercise as a treatment for low grade tumors in situ like mine, that have a low rate of recurrance, instead of throwing everything at us. If enough of us prove that we can remain healthy by changing our lifestyle, maybe they will finally start practicing integrated medicine so that we do not feel abandoned by our doctors when we want to go another route. That is why I keep encouraging others to look into alternatives. I know it has made a difference for me and it seems a lot of us are suffering needlessly with the current medical mindset. There needs to be more emphasis on preventing this disease in the first place.

  • Jaydee
    Jaydee Member Posts: 74
    edited July 2008

    Hi all - definite changes with regards to radiation in early breast cancer.  Trials are on-going in Europe and the UK with intra-operative radiotherapy.  The entire treatment is done at the time of the operation - protection is given between the chest wall and the treatment area and the radiation dose is administered at the site of the tumour where it is most needed.  I had this done but, unfortunately, when I went for my post-op consultation the Consultant said that as I had DCIS in addition to the small 5mm tumour I would need external radiation also.  The protocol calls for this and allows for a reduced amount of external treatments (I had 15) and no boosts required.  Apparently the machinery needed for the intra-operative treatments is very expensive and the time in Theatre is extended quite a bit but the huge advantage is the reduced amount of radiation.

  • Shirlann
    Shirlann Member Posts: 3,302
    edited July 2008

    Hi Linda, I sure hope so about the preventive care we NEVER get.  Years ago I learned not to even mention I took vitamins, I have had doctors go ballistic, tell me I was crazy and wasting my money, etc., etc.

    Now, they are a little better, some of them.

    You are so right about the French women.  Spot on.  And we must not forget, with universal medicine they tend to do less rather than more.

    It takes the old farts YEARSSSS to change their thinking about anything.  They are stubborn as mules, I have had my run ins with many of them, they hate it if you have a brain or an idea.

    Sheeesh, hugs, Shirl 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    My hope is that the medical community will someday emphasize diet and exercise as a treatment for low grade tumors in situ like mine

    We must live in separate universes.  For decades, in my universe, health experts have been preaching the virtues of a healthy diet and exercise for the prevention of disease.  Interestingly, a clinical trial showed that eating the right foods did not effect breast cancer.  Look it up at the National Cancer Institute if you happen to be in my universe anytime soon.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Shirlam, the evidence on vitamins is contradictory at best.  Not long ago Beta Caratene supplements were effective in preventing cancer.  Newer studies have found though that it may actually enhance some cancers.  At any rate I get the Nutirition digest or whtatever its called on a regular basis, and its hard to say what is or is not good for you in the vitamin area.  Recently they have been pushing vitamin D.  Also Fish oil is supposed to be very good.  But the best thing you can do is eat lots of colorful fruits and vegetables, at least five servings per day.  I have regular blueberry, strawberry, blackberrry smoothies myself.  Loaded with anti-oxidants and fiber.

  • MarieKelly
    MarieKelly Member Posts: 591
    edited July 2008

    I remember the beta carotene craze!! It was going strong back at least 10 -15 years ago. Unfortunately, some people took it to the extreme. I remember a patient of mine who was convinced that beta carotene was the one thing that would cure his cancer. He took massive amounts of it. As I recall, he never actually refused conventional treatment, at least not initially, but he took in so much beta carotene that he eventually turned the color of a carrot.  He was VERY orange. I've seen lots of jaundice yellow from liver failure, but he was the first and last I've ever seen carrot orange.  It didn't help him at all, by the way - he died that same color, and I've sometimes wonder if he might have lived longer had he not done that.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I know Lilly over at the Ask the Experts board of John Hopkins (and an expert consultant at Breastcancer.org) pushes Broccoli Sprouts. But then there is this study:

     Extra Fruits and Vegetables Don't Cut Risk of Further Breast Cancer: Results of the WHEL Study

    Key Words

    Breast cancer, diet, cancer prevention, WHEL. (Definitions of many terms related to cancer can be found in the Cancer.gov Dictionary.)

    Summary

    In the Women's Healthy Eating and Living (WHEL) study, a diet high in fruits, vegetables, and fiber and somewhat lower in fat did not protect early-stage breast cancer survivors from further breast cancer, nor did it help them live longer than women in a comparison group. These findings contradict at least one other large study of diet and breast cancer risk. More research is needed to clarify the issue.

    Source

    Journal of the American Medical Association, July 18, 2007 (see the journal abstract)
    (JAMA 2007 Jul 18;298(3):289-98)

    Background

    A number of studies have attempted to clarify the role of diet in the prevention of breast cancer. Results from the Women's Intervention Nutrition Study (WINS), a large randomized clinical trial reported in 2005, suggested that a low-fat diet helps prevent breast cancer recurrence in postmenopausal women, especially those whose cancers don't respond to estrogen (ER-negative).

    However, in the Women's Health Initiative (WHI), completed in 2006, researchers found only a slight, statistically insignificant reduction in breast cancer risk among women ages 50 to 79 who were able to lower their total fat intake.

    The trial described here is called the Women's Healthy Eating and Living (WHEL) Study.

    The Study

    WHEL was a large phase III clinical trial that investigated whether changes in the proportion of dietary fruits, vegetables, fiber, and fat could reduce breast cancer recurrence and new primary breast cancer, as well as death from any cause, in early-stage breast cancer survivors ages 18 to 70 (see the protocol summary).

    Between 1995 and 2000, at seven U.S. sites, researchers enrolled 3,088 women (mostly white) who had been treated for early stage (I-IIIa) breast cancer within the previous four years.

    The women were randomly assigned to one of two dietary groups. About half the women (1,551) were asked to follow the government-recommended daily 5-A-Day diet, consisting of five servings of fruits and/or vegetables, at least 20 grams of fiber, and less than 30 percent of daily food consumption in fat. Women in this "comparison group" received a newsletter every other month and were offered an occasional cooking class, all intended to help them stick to the 5-A-Day dietary plan.

    The rest of the women on the study (1,537) were assigned to an "intensive intervention" group dedicated to a more stringent diet: three servings of fruit, five of vegetables, 16 ounces of vegetable juice, 30 grams of fiber, and only 15 to 20 percent of fat. With the stricter diet came a robust support program. Women in this group received more frequent newsletters, were offered more cooking classes, and - unlike the comparison group - received regular telephone calls from counselors offering encouragement and coaching.

    At the start of the trial, all of the women reported eating about seven fruit and/or vegetable servings a day. Also, the two groups were similar in terms of average body weight and the average number of daily calories consumed.

    To gather dietary data, researchers telephoned participants throughout the study, asking them to recall what they had eaten for the previous 24 hours. A follow-up assessment was completed by most women after the study ended June 1, 2006. As a way to check on the participants' self-reports, women in both groups provided blood samples during the study that were analyzed for biomarkers measuring their fruit and vegetable intake.

    The study's lead author was John J. Pierce, Ph.D., from the University of California-San Diego. WHEL was initiated as a pilot study funded by a grant from the Walton Family Foundation, and continued with funding from the National Cancer Institute.

    Results

    There were significant differences between the two groups in terms of their food intake during the course of the study. At the four-year mark, women in the intensive intervention group were eating 65 percent more vegetables, 25 percent more fruit, 30 percent more fiber, and 13 percent less fat than women in the comparison group. The biomarker indicating fruit and vegetable intake was also 43 percent higher in the intensive intervention group.

    However, after a median of 7.3 years of follow-up, there were no statistically significant differences in terms of the study's main endpoints. About 17 percent of women in each group had a breast cancer recurrence or a new primary breast cancer, and about 10 percent died in each group, more than four in five of them due to breast cancer. All of the women had received similar clinical care.

    Limitations

    Though they ate significantly more fruit and vegetables than women in the comparison group, women in the intensive intervention group never managed to reduce their daily fat intake to between 15 and 20 percent of their diet. They never got below 21 percent and by the end of the trial were averaging more than 27 percent (as were the women in the comparison group).

    Near the end of the seven-year follow-up period, women in both groups were reporting fat intake averages higher than what they'd reported at the start of the study.

    Another problem (common to dietary studies) was the difficulty in validating the participants' reports of what they ate. The periodic blood tests were able to confirm self-reports of fruits and vegetable intake, but not fat. Researchers noted that while women in both groups reported eating fewer calories per day at the end of the study compared to the beginning, all participants on average experienced slight gains in weight - a puzzling occurrence suggesting the women's calorie reports may have been less than fully accurate.

    Comments

    The WHEL authors say these results fairly demonstrate that early-stage breast cancer survivors do not protect themselves against further breast cancer by adopting a diet very high in fruits, vegetables, and fiber and somewhat lower in fat. However, counters John Milner, Ph.D., chief of the Nutritional Science Research Group at the National Cancer Institute (NCI), such a conclusion should not be taken as final. Researchers are continuing to follow the participants and are also conducting subset analyses.

    "I would be surprised if the ongoing analysis of genetic and other factors failed to identify one or more WHEL subgroups of women who did have a meaningful risk reduction," says Milner.

    As one example, says Sharon Ross, Ph.D., MPH, the NCI's project director for WHEL, "we have a rich database of information on [the participants' use of] dietary supplements, such as vitamins and minerals" that might uncover risk differences based on a more comprehensive picture of total nutrition.

    In addition, notes Milner, "not all fruits and vegetables are equal" in terms of their overall effect. "Even if you had an accurate report of how much of which food was consumed, the food supply itself is subject to enormous variations in terms of the purity and strength of food components. Plus certain interactions occur when various components are blended."

    "The conflicting results from the WHEL study and WINS...require careful consideration," write cancer specialists Susan M. Gatspur, Ph.D., and Seema Khan, M.D., of Northwestern University in Chicago, Ill. in an editorial accompanying the published results.

    In the WINS study, early-stage breast cancer survivors on the low-fat diet (15 percent of total daily calories) weighed, on average, about six pounds less than a comparison group at the end of five years. In WHEL, women on the lower-fat diet lost no weight relative to the comparison group. "These data support findings from observational studies suggesting that a high level of obesity, weight gain, or both after [breast cancer] diagnosis" raises women's risk of further disease and death, say Gatspur and Khan.

    "It is unclear whether the difference in energy balance, as reflected by weight change, partly accounts" for why WINS participants on the low-fat diet lowered their risk of breast cancer recurrence and death while WHEL participants did not, they say.

    Another potentially meaningful difference between the two studies is that women in WHEL were 18 to 70 years old, whereas all WINS participants were postmenopausal.

    "It is becoming increasingly clear that evaluating dietary effects is complex," write Gatspur and Khan, "and requires careful monitoring to ensure adherence to the intervention goals."

    Nonetheless, Milner emphasizes that "we have a lot of good evidence that fruits and vegetables reduce heart disease." What's more, says Ross, "despite complex and at times controversial data, enough evidence is available to suggest that weight management should be part of a strategy for cancer survivors to reduce their risk of recurrence."

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  • MarieKelly
    MarieKelly Member Posts: 591
    edited July 2008

    Well, I'm not surprised that someone on the Johns Hopkins website would be promoting broccoliu sprouts since they've got a patent on them!! The call them "broccosprouts". Does that mean they make money off them?? Don't know. There were threads discussing them here a few years back.

  • mdb
    mdb Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2008

    Shirlann wrote:

    "mdb, what in the heck is your leio cancer?  Never heard of that one, but it doesn't sound like much fun."

    It's Leiomyosarcoma. A soft tissue muscle cancer. VERY rare. And VERY deadly.

    It's 3% of all cancers. Or something. It's so rare they don't have any "standard of treatment." For women, it mostly presents, in their uterus. Hidden, in uterine fibroids.The uterus is a muscle.  

    Although, for my part, my Leiomyosarcoma presented on my buttocks. 

    I went to my PCP, and she said, it was a boil. Treat it with heat, and it would pop. I did that, religiously. Nothing.  It kept hurting, I went back and then she said, it was a cyst. I had to get it surgically, removed. So I did. By a general surgeon, in an office procedure.

    The general surgeon took it out, thought it looked ... weird. He even showed it to me, during the procedure. Sent it off to Pathology. It came back, as Leiomyosarcoma. Four days, later, I was back at the hospital, major surgery, for a wide exiscion. 

    Then, I had every test, on earth. First, a CT scan, with then prompted a host of other tests. Spots on my liver. Had to have a liver MRI. Turned out to be hemagiomas. Something on my upper gi tract. Had to have an upper GI series. Nothing. Something on my uterus. Had a Transvaginal Ultrasound. Turned out to be nothing.

    I HAD this Leio cancer. But I got it cut out. With wide margins. 3cms is WIDE. 

    Maybe a reason I just, look askance, at these breast cancer "treatments."  When so much worse, has happened, to me. 

    And, could happen, to you. 

    To me, these adjuvant breast cancer treatments, are meaningless. For low-grade breast cancers. And my Leio diagnosis was low grade, just like my breast cancer diagnosis.

    It was on my Butt.

    Although, even so, they offered me no adjuvant treatments. Because there wasn't, any. Because there's no $ to be made. With Leiomyosarcoma.

    For most women, Leio is discovered in Stage 4, in their uterus, it's spread, they won't live, 5 years.  They won't live, one year.

    I just won't "treat the hell" out of my low grade breast cancer, when I know so many other things can go wrong, with me. They already have. 

    To just, repeat. Breast Cancer is NOT the only ailment that you will ever get. 

    I'll get the screenings, and get my cancers cut out, as they appear, and THAT is good enough, for me.

     mdb

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    Interesting study:

    Clinical practice guidelines for the care and treatment of breast cancer:6. Breast radiotherapy after breast-conserving surgery (2003 update)

    Timothy Whelan, Ivo Olivotto, Mark Levine, for the Steering Committee on Clinical Practice

    Guidelines for the Care and Treatment of Breast Cancer*

    Dr. Whelan is with the Cancer Care Ontario Hamilton Regional Cancer Centre and Associate

    Professor in the Department of Medicine, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ont.; Dr. Olivotto

    is with the BC Cancer Agency-Vancouver Island Centre and Clinical Professor in the

    Department of Surgery, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, BC; and Dr. Levine is

    Professor in the Departments of Clinical Epidemiology and Biostatistics and of Medicine and

    is the Buffet Taylor Chair in Breast Cancer Research, McMaster University, Hamilton, Ont.

    *The Steering Committee is part of Health Canada's Canadian Breast Cancer Initiative.

    [Patient guidelines available here]

    AbstractObjective: To help physicians and their patients arrive at optimal strategies for breast

    radiation therapy after breast-conserving surgery (BCS) for early breast cancer.

    Outcomes: Local control, survival, quality of life, adverse effects of irradiation and cosmetic

    results.

    Evidence: A literature search using MEDLINE from 1966 to October 2001 and

    CANCERLIT from 1983 to September 2001. A nonsystematic review of the literature was

    continued through April 2002.

    Benefits: A decrease in local recurrence of breast cancer.Harms: Adverse effects of breast irradiation.Recommendations:
    • Women who undergo BCS should be advised to have postoperative breast irradiation.

    Omission of radiation therapy after BCS increases the risk of local recurrence.

    • Contraindications to breast irradiation include pregnancy, previous breast irradiation

    (including mantle irradiation for Hodgkin's disease) and inability to lie flat or to abduct

    the arm. Scleroderma and systemic lupus erythematosus are relative contraindications.

    • A number of different fractionation schedules for breast irradiation have been used.

    Although the most common fractionation schedule in Canada to date has been 50 Gy in

    25 fractions, recent data from a Canadian trial demonstrate that 42.5 Gy in 16 fractions

    is as good as this more traditional schedule.

    2

    • Irradiation to the whole breast rather than partial breast irradiation is recommended.
    • There is insufficient evidence to recommend breast irradiation with brachytherapy implants

    or intraoperative radiation therapy. Further evaluation of these treatments in randomized

    trials is required.

    • Additional irradiation to the lumpectomy site (boost irradiation) reduces local

    recurrence but can be associated with worse cosmesis compared with no boost. A boost

    following breast irradiation may be considered in women at high risk of local

    recurrence.

    • Physicians should adhere to standard treatment regimens to minimize the adverse

    effects of breast irradiation.

    • When choices are being made between different treatment options, patients must be

    made aware of the acute and late complications that can result from radiation therapy.

    • Breast irradiation should be started as soon as possible after surgery and not later than

    12 weeks after, except for patients in whom radiation therapy is preceded by

    chemotherapy. However, the optimal interval between BCS and the start of irradiation

    has not been defined.

    • The optimal sequencing of chemotherapy and breast irradiation is not clearly defined

    for patients who are also candidates for chemotherapy. Most centres favour the

    administration of chemotherapy before radiation therapy. Selected chemotherapy

    regimens are sometimes used concurrently with radiation therapy. There is no evidence

    that concurrent treatment results in a better outcome, and there is an increased chance

    of toxic effects, especially with anthracycline-containing regimens.

    • Patients should be offered the opportunity to participate in clinical trials whenever

    possible.

    Validation: The original guideline was updated by a writing committee, which then

    submitted it for review, revision and approval by the Steering Committee on Clinical Practice

    Guidelines for the Care and Treatment of Breast Cancer. The current update did not undergo

    an external review.

    Sponsor: The Steering Committee on Clinical Practice Guidelines for the Care and

    Treatment of Breast Cancer was convened by Health Canada.

    Completion date: September 2002.

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    Approximately 80% of women who present with breast cancer have lesions that are amenable

    to breast-conserving surgery (BCS). Randomized trials have shown that BCS is equivalent, in

    terms of survival, to mastectomy (see guideline 3), and the use of BCS is increasing.

    A number of well-executed clinical trials evaluating the role of breast irradiation after BCS

    have been completed. These guidelines, which incorporate this information, are intended to

    assist the patient and her physician(s) in making the most clinically effective and personally

    acceptable choices concerning the use of breast irradiation after BCS for invasive breast

    cancer. The management of ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS) is addressed in a separate

    guideline (guideline 5). The question of axillary node irradiation is not addressed in this

    document.

    Methods

    The evidence reviewed for this document was retrieved through a systematic review of the

    English-language literature using MEDLINE from 1966 to October 2001 and CANCERLIT

    from 1983 to September 2001. Search terms included the following: "breast neoplasms,"

    "segmental mastectomy," "lumpectomy," "breast conservation," "radiotherapy,"

    "irradiation," "clinical trials," "practice guidelines" and "meta-analysis." Bibliographies from

    recently published reviews were scanned and relevant articles retrieved. A nonsystematic

    review of the literature and monitoring of major conferences on breast cancer were continued

    through April 2002.

    The quality of the evidence on which conclusions are based is categorized into 5 levels.1 The

    initial draft of the original guideline was based on the report "Evidence based

    recommendation report for breast irradiation following breast conserving surgery," prepared

    for the Cancer Care Ontario Breast Disease Site Group. The iterative process used to develop

    the original guideline has been described previously.2 A writing committee updated the

    original guideline and then submitted it for further review, revision and approval by the

    Steering Committee on Clinical Practice Guidelines for the Care and Treatment of Breast

    Cancer.

    Recommendations (including evidence and rationale)The role of radiation therapy after BCS
    • Women who undergo BCS should be advised to have postoperative breast
    irradiation. Omission of radiation therapy after BCS increases the risk of localrecurrence.

    There is substantial level I evidence that breast irradiation after BCS reduces the incidence of

    local recurrence, providing a survival rate equivalent to that of mastectomy3-14 (Table 1).

    In the National Surgical Adjuvant Breast and Bowel Project (NSABP) B-06 trial, 2105

    women with node-negative or node-positive breast cancer and tumours 4 cm or less in

    diameter were randomly assigned to 1 of 3 treatment arms: (a) modified radical mastectomy,

    (b) lumpectomy plus axillary dissection followed by local breast irradiation or (c)

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    lumpectomy and axillary dissection alone.3-5 There was no difference in survival between the

    3 treatment groups at an average follow-up of 12 years.5 However, the rate of local recurrence

    was substantially lower among all patients who received a lumpectomy plus local breast

    irradiation of 50 Gy over 5 weeks to the whole breast than among patients who were treated

    with lumpectomy alone (10% v. 35%, p < 0.001).5 For patients with node-negative disease

    treated by lumpectomy, the rate of local recurrence among those who received adjuvant

    radiation therapy was 12% compared with 32% among those who received no adjuvant

    radiation therapy. For patients with node-positive disease (all of whom also received

    chemotherapy), the rates of local recurrence with and without adjuvant radiation therapy were

    5% and 41% respectively (level I evidence).

    In another study, carried out in Sweden, 381 women with node-negative breast cancer and

    primary tumours 2 cm or less in diameter were randomly assigned after sector resection to

    receive either breast irradiation (54 Gy in 27 fractions to the whole breast) or no breast

    irradiation.6-8 At 10 years' follow-up, the local recurrence rate was lower among those who

    received irradiation than among those who did not (8.5% v. 24%, p = 0.0001) (level I

    evidence).8 There was no difference in survival between the 2 treatment groups.

    In a Canadian study, 837 patients with node-negative disease who underwent lumpectomy

    were randomly assigned to receive either no breast irradiation or breast irradiation (40 Gy in

    16 fractions over 3 weeks to the whole breast, plus a local boost of 12.5 Gy in 5 fractions

    over 1 week to the primary site).9,10 The rate of local recurrence at a median of 7.6 years of

    follow-up was 35% in the non-irradiated group compared with 11% in the irradiated group (p

    < 0.001) (level I evidence).10 No difference in survival was detected between the 2 groups.

    In an Italian trial, 567 women with either node-negative or node-positive tumours less than

    2.5 cm in diameter were randomly assigned to undergo either quadrantectomy followed by

    breast irradiation (50 Gy in 5 weeks to the whole breast, plus a boost to the tumour bed of 10

    Gy in 5 fractions) or quadrantectomy without radiation therapy.11 At a median follow-up of 9

    years the rates of local recurrence were 5.8% in the irradiated group and 23.5% in the nonirradiated

    group (p < 0.001) (level I evidence). There was no difference in overall survival

    between the 2 groups.12

    In another trial, in Scotland, 585 women with primary breast cancers 4 cm or less in diameter

    were randomly assigned after BCS and systemic therapy to receive either 50 Gy in 20 to 25

    fractions to the breast with a boost to the tumour bed, or no radiation therapy.13 At 6 years,

    local breast recurrence rates were much lower in the irradiated group than in the nonirradiated

    group (5.8% v. 24.5%) (level I evidence). No difference was detected in survival

    between the groups.

    In a study conducted in Finland, 152 women over 40 years of age who had node-negative

    breast tumours smaller than 2 cm in diameter were randomly assigned to lumpectomy alone

    or to lumpectomy followed by radiation therapy (50 Gy in 5 weeks) to the ipsilateral breast.14

    At 6.7 years of follow-up, the local recurrence rate was 7.5% in the irradiated group and

    18.1% in the control group (p = 0.03) (level I evidence). There was no difference in overall 5-

    year cancer-specific survival between the groups.

    5

    The 1995 update of the meta-analysis by the Early Breast Cancer Trialists' Collaborative Group

    (EBCTCG) included 4 of the published trials and 2 unpublished trials involving over 4000

    patients. The results are consistent with the findings of the 6 studies reported above. There was a

    68% reduction in risk of local recurrence after radiation therapy but no significant impact on

    overall survival (level I evidence).15 The EBCTCG met in the fall of 2000, and their updated

    analysis should be available in the future.

    In most of these trials, local relapse was treated by mastectomy despite a policy of re-excision

    followed by breast irradiation for local relapse in patients treated by lumpectomy alone.6,9,11

    The Swedish study6 reported an overall mastectomy rate for local recurrence of 70%, the

    Canadian trial9 reported a mastectomy rate of approximately 50%, and the Italian study11

    reported a mastectomy rate of 40%.

    Are there any situations that confer so low a risk of recurrence that irradiation can safely be

    omitted? The probability of local recurrence without radiation therapy is less when tumours

    are small (< 2 cm in diameter) and when women are older than 50 years of age. However,

    omission of irradiation after BCS increases the risk of local recurrence, even in these cases.

    The Canadian study that evaluated the role of breast irradiation after lumpectomy in patients

    with node-negative breast cancer found that women aged 50 years and older who had

    tumours 2 cm or less in diameter were possibly a low-risk group.9 However, the rate of local

    relapse among such women treated by lumpectomy alone was 22%.10 Similarly, in the

    NSABP B-06 study, although tumour size predicted local recurrence in the breast, the risk of

    recurrence after BCS among patients with node-negative disease with tumours 1 cm or less in

    diameter who did not receive radiation therapy was still 25% (level III evidence).16 It has

    been postulated that patients who undergo more extensive resection of the tumour my be at

    somewhat lower risk of recurrence. However, the results of the Milan and Uppsala-Örebro

    trials do not support this hypothesis. In the former trial, women who underwent

    quadrantectomy without radiation therapy had a local recurrence rate of 23.5%.12 In the

    Swedish trial, patients who underwent sector resection without radiation therapy had a rate of

    24%.8

    Investigators have evaluated the role of chemotherapy without irradiation in preventing local

    recurrence after BCS. An Ontario study involving patients with node-positive disease

    identified a subset of 121 premenopausal patients who had undergone BCS and for whom no

    breast irradiation was given but who had received a 12- or 36-week course of systemic

    adjuvant chemotherapy. The rate of local recurrence was lower after the longer, 36-week

    systemic treatment with the combination of cyclophosphamide, methotrexate and 5-

    fluorouracil (CMF) plus vincristine and prednisone (CMFVP) than after 12 weeks of

    treatment (23% v. 39%, p = 0.02). However, these recurrence rates were not sufficiently

    reduced to justify replacement of breast irradiation with chemotherapy alone.17 In the trial

    from the Scottish Cancer Trials Breast Group, 585 women who underwent BCS were

    randomly assigned to receive or not receive radiation therapy. All received systemic therapy,

    with either tamoxifen or intravenously administered CMF according to the estrogen receptor

    status of the tumour. The local relapse rate among those receiving radiation therapy was 5.8%

    compared with 24.5% among those who did not receive radiation therapy (level I evidence).13

    6

    Recently, several trials have investigated the role of tamoxifen alone after lumpectomy in

    women considered to be at lower risk of local recurrence. In the NSABP B-21 trial, 1009

    women with node-negative breast cancer and tumours 1 cm in diameter or smaller treated by

    lumpectomy were randomly assigned to receive tamoxifen alone, breast irradiation alone or

    tamoxifen plus breast irradiation. About 80% of the women were 50 years of age or older.

    The average follow-up was 7.2 years. The rate of local breast recurrence at 8 years was 16.5%

    with tamoxifen alone, 9.3% with radiation alone and 2.8% with tamoxifen plus irradiation (p

    < 0.01 for all comparisons) (level I evidence).18 Overall survival was not significantly

    different between the treatment arms.

    In a Canadian trial, 769 women over 50 years of age (median age 68 years) with tumours less

    than 5 cm in diameter and pathologically or clinically node-negative were randomly assigned

    after lumpectomy to receive tamoxifen (20 mg/d for 5 years) or tamoxifen plus breast

    irradiation.19 The median follow-up was 3.4 years. The rate of local recurrence at 4 years was

    6% in the tamoxifen group and 0.3% in the tamoxifen plus irradiation group (p = 0.009). In

    an Intergroup trial, 647 women 70 years of age or over with estrogen-receptor (ER) positive

    tumours less than 2 cm in diameter and pathologically or clinically node-negative were

    randomly assigned after lumpectomy to receive tamoxifen or tamoxifen plus breast

    irradiation. The median follow-up was 2.3 years. The annual rate of locoregional recurrence

    was 0.9% with tamoxifen alone and 0% with tamoxifen plus irradiation (p > 0.05).20

    In summary, the results of the NSABP trial indicate that the risk of local breast cancer recurrence

    in patients who receive tamoxifen without irradiation is high. The results of the Canadian and

    Intergroup trials suggest that older women with small ER-positive tumours who receive

    tamoxifen without breast irradiation may have a lower risk of recurrence, but follow-up is still

    too early to recommend that radiation therapy not be given.

    Contraindications to breast irradiation
    • Contraindications to breast irradiation include pregnancy, previous breast
    irradiation (including mantle irradiation for Hodgkin's disease) and inability tolie flat or to abduct the arm. Scleroderma and systemic lupus erythematosus arerelative contraindications.

    For some patients, physical disabilities, such as inability to lie flat or adequately abduct the

    arm, can make irradiation difficult or impossible. Also, previous high-dose irradiation to the

    thorax precludes further radiation therapy. Increased rates of acute and late radiation effects

    have been reported among patients with pre-existing collagen vascular disease, including

    scleroderma and systemic lupus erythematosus.21,22 Although a study involving 122 patients

    using a matched cohort design suggested no statistical difference in acute or late

    complications between patients with collagen vascular disease and normal controls, the

    power to detect a difference was low and a proportion of the cases in the collagen vascular

    disease group in fact had rheumatoid arthritis, which is not considered a contraindication to

    irradiation.23 Thus, based on present evidence, scleroderma and systemic lupus erythematosus

    should be considered relative contraindications to radiation therapy. When these conditions

    are present, women should be made aware that the risk of local recurrence is increased

    without radiation therapy and that this outcome can be avoided by mastectomy.

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    Radiation techniques
    • A number of different fractionation schedules for breast irradiation have been used.
    Although the most common fractionation schedule in Canada to date has been 50Gy in 25 fractions, recent data from a Canadian trial demonstrate that 42.5 Gy in 16fractions is as good as this more traditional schedule.

    In planning therapy, the 2 main considerations are controlling local recurrence and obtaining

    a satisfactory cosmetic outcome. In the 6 randomized trials of breast irradiation versus no

    irradiation after lumpectomy already discussed, 3-14 only 2 used the same radiation

    fractionation schedule5,14 (Table 1). Fractionation schedules used in these trials ranged from

    40 Gy in 16 fractions to 54 Gy in 27 fractions administered to the whole breast with or

    without boost irradiation to the primary site. Each fraction of radiation was delivered daily

    Monday to Friday. In patients with comparable stages of breast cancer and similar lengths of

    follow-up, the rates of local recurrence were similar (level III evidence). Prospective and

    retrospective cohort studies have also reported acceptable rates of local control and cosmesis

    with similar fractionation schedules.24-28

    A commonly used fractionation schedule in Canada has been 50 Gy in 25 fractions to the whole

    breast without boost irradiation when the margins of surgical excision are clear of disease (the

    same schedule used in the NSABP studies). 29 The Ontario Clinical Oncology Group (OCOG)

    recently reported the results of a Canadian randomized trial in which the more traditional, longer

    course (50 Gy in 25 fractions administered over 35 days) was compared with a shorter course

    (42.5 Gy in 16 fractions over 22 days) in women with node-negative breast cancer following

    lumpectomy.30 Ten cancer centres in Ontario and Quebec and 1234 women participated in the

    trial. The median follow-up was 5.8 years. No difference was detected in the rates of local

    recurrence or cosmetic outcome at 5 years (level I evidence). The rates of local breast recurrence

    were 3.2% in the long treatment arm and 2.8% in the short treatment arm (absolute difference

    0.4%, 95% confidence interval -1.5% to 2.4%). The trial was limited to patients whose breast

    was less than 25 cm in width at the midpoint of the radiation field. It is unclear whether the

    results of this study apply to women with larger breasts, who may be more prone to poor

    cosmetic outcome when radiation techniques are not optimized. Although the trial was restricted

    to patients with node-negative disease, the observed results are likely generalizable to patients

    with node-positive disease.

    • Irradiation to the whole breast rather than partial breast irradiation is
    recommended.

    In a trial comparing irradiation to the whole breast and partial breast irradiation, 708 patients

    were randomly assigned after BCS to receive either whole or partial breast irradiation.24,31 At

    a median follow-up of 8 years, local relapse rates were 13% in the whole breast irradiation

    group and 25% in the partial breast irradiation group (p = 0.00008) (level I evidence).

    8

    • There is insufficient evidence to recommend breast irradiation with brachytherapy
    implants or intraoperative radiation therapy. Further evaluation of these treatmentsin randomized trials is required.

    Recently there have been a number of phase I and II studies demonstrating that partial breast

    irradiation with brachytherapy implants may provide adequate local control with acceptable

    cosmetic outcome in selected patients.32,33 Local intraoperative radiation therapy is also being

    evaluated.34 Further data from randomized trials are necessary before making definitive

    recommendations about the role of brachytherapy alone or intraoperative radiation therapy

    following lumpectomy.

    • Additional irradiation to the lumpectomy site (boost irradiation) reduces local
    recurrence but can be associated with worse cosmesis compared with no boost. Aboost following breast irradiation may be considered in women at high risk oflocal recurrence.

    The role of additional irradiation to the lumpectomy cavity, called boost irradiation, has been

    evaluated in 3 randomized trials (Table 2). In the Lyon trial, 1024 patients with tumours 3 cm

    in diameter or smaller and clear margins following lumpectomy were randomly assigned to

    receive radiation therapy with 50 Gy in 20 fractions over 5 weeks to the whole breast plus a

    boost to the primary site of 10 Gy in 4 fractions over 1 week or radiation therapy with 50 Gy

    in 20 fractions over 5 weeks to the whole breast with no boost.35 The boost was delivered by

    a direct field using 9 or 12 MeV electrons. Approximately 50% of the patients received

    adjuvant chemotherapy or tamoxifen. The median follow-up was 3.3 years. The rate of local

    recurrence at 5 years was 3.6% among patients who received the boost and 4.5% among those

    who did not (p = 0.044) (level I evidence). More patients in the boost group than in the

    control group had telangiectasia (12.4% v. 5.9%, p = 0.003). No difference in survival was

    detected between the groups.

    In the Nice trial, 664 patients with invasive breast cancer treated by lumpectomy were

    randomly assigned to receive radiation therapy with 50 Gy in 5 weeks plus a boost of 10 Gy

    in 1 week or radiation therapy with 50 Gy in 5 weeks alone.36 The boost was delivered by

    electron beam or reduced cobalt tangents. At a median follow-up of 6.1 years, the rate of

    local recurrence was 4.3% among patients who received the boost and 6.8% among those

    who did not (p = 0.13) (level II evidence).

    The European Organization for Research and Treatment of Cancer (EORTC) conducted a trial

    involving 5318 patients with early breast cancer who had clear resection margins following

    lumpectomy.37,38 Patients were randomly assigned to receive radiation therapy with 50 Gy in 25

    fractions to the whole breast plus a boost to the primary site of 16 Gy in 8 fractions, using an

    external beam (direct electrons, tangent photons) or brachytherapy, or radiation therapy with 50

    Gy in 25 fractions to the whole breast alone. Approximately 80% of the patients had nodenegative

    disease and 28% received adjuvant systemic therapy. The median follow-up was 5.1

    years. The rate of local recurrence at 5 years was 4.3% among patients who received the boost

    and 7.3% among those who did not (p < 0.001) (level I evidence). No difference was detected in

    survival between the 2 groups. A good or excellent cosmetic outcome was produced in 71% of

    the patients who received the boost, compared with 86% of those who did not (p < 0.001).

    9

    Patients less than 50 years old were at higher risk of local recurrence than were older women, and

    in this group of patients the absolute benefit of a boost appeared greater.

    The results of these studies indicate that boost irradiation to the primary site in patients with clear

    resection margins reduces the risk of local recurrence. However, the absolute benefit is small,

    and the use of a boost is associated with a poorer cosmetic outcome. Results of the EORTC study

    suggest that the absolute benefit may be in the order of 4%-10% for women less than 50 years of

    age. In the Canadian trial the rates of local breast recurrence were very low (3.2% in the long

    treatment arm and 2.8% in the short treatment arm).30 These rates are lower than the rate in the

    boost arm of the EORTC trial. Among women less than 50 years of age in the Canadian trial, the

    rates of local breast recurrence were 3.6% in the short treatment arm and 7.2% in the long

    treatment arm. For such women the potential benefit with boost irradiation would be of a

    relatively small magnitude.

    Controversy also exists regarding further management when the pathologist reports

    microscopic involvement or close resection margins with invasive cancer or DCIS.39-42

    Patients with positive margins following lumpectomy are at increased risk of local

    recurrence, and re-excision or mastectomy should be considered, especially if there is more

    than focal involvement (see guideline 3). Patients should be informed when margins are

    involved, and if surgery is declined it is normal practice to recommend boost irradiation.

    Similarly, patients with close resection margins (i.e., tumour approaches this margin by 1-2

    mm) may be at increased risk of local recurrence, but data are conflicting. The effectiveness

    of boost irradiation for positive or close resection margins remains unclear.

    Oncologists may wish to consider the use of a boost (10-16 Gy in 4-8 fractions) in women at

    increased risk of local recurrence following breast irradiation alone (e.g., those < 40 years of

    age, or those with positive or close resection margins). Patients should be informed about the

    absolute benefits and risks.

    • Physicians should adhere to standard treatment regimens to minimize the adverse
    effects of breast irradiation.

    BCS followed by breast irradiation is associated with very few significant complications.30

    The frequency and severity of complications and poor cosmetic results increase with the use

    of unusual dosages or dosage schedules, or when regional node irradiation is used as well.43

    Negative health effects of irradiation
    • When choices are being made between different treatment options, patients must
    be made aware of the acute and late complications that can result from radiationtherapy.Skin erythema and fatigue are common short-term side effects of radiation therapy.

    The cause of fatigue is not known; it is maximal in the first few weeks to months after

    radiation therapy. Skin erythema and fatigue usually resolve completely within 3 to 6 months.

    Such symptoms and the inconvenience of radiation therapy can affect a patient's quality of

    life.44 In the Canadian randomized trial that evaluated the role of breast irradiation after

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    lumpectomy,44 patients' quality of life was assessed at baseline and at 1 and 2 months

    following randomization. Patients treated with radiation therapy had little change in quality

    of life over the 2-month period, whereas those who did not receive radiation therapy had

    steady improvement in quality of life. The difference between groups was statistically

    significant (p = 0.0001).

    Mild and moderate long-term effects of irradiation are relatively rare.

    During the first 2 years after surgery and radiation therapy, patients may experience skin

    irritation and intermittent pain in the breast.27,45-47 These symptoms are usually self-limiting

    and seldom severe.44 In the Canadian trial that compared radiation therapy and no radiation

    therapy after lumpectomy,10,44 both skin irritation and breast pain were more frequent at 3 and

    6 months after treatment in the patients who received radiation therapy than in the control

    patients. The proportion of patients with symptoms steadily decreased over time, so that at 2

    years skin irritation was reported by only 7% of the patients and breast pain by 15%

    regardless of whether the patients received radiation therapy.44

    Other effects that may be experienced up to 5 years after BCS followed by breast irradiation

    include mild breast erythema (6%), mild breast edema (3%), moderate or severe breast

    induration (2%), and mild (13%) or moderate to severe (1%) telangiectasia over the breast

    area.27

    Lasting cosmetic sequelae of irradiation may become visible after the first year and progressfor several years.

    These sequelae do not appear to worsen significantly after approximately 3 years.27,47,48

    Evaluation of cosmetic outcome has primarily been based on physician evaluation in case

    series.47-51 A satisfactory result is reported in 80%-95% of cases.27,45,50,52,53 In the Canadian

    trial, patients were asked to report any trouble or upset regarding the appearance of the breast

    on a regular basis.44 Breast irradiation did not increase the proportion of patients at 2 years

    who were troubled by the appearance of the treated breast (4.8% of patients in the irradiated

    and non-irradiated groups, p = 0.62).

    In a study from British Columbia, cosmetic results were reported to be satisfactory by 89% of

    physicians and 96% of patients.27 Localized fat necrosis was reported in 1%-8% of patients,

    particularly in high-boost areas. This side effect is self-limiting and harmless but may be

    confused with local recurrence.27,53

    Severe long-term adverse effects of irradiation are rare.

    Older case series in which women received breast and nodal irradiation reported the

    following rare complications (< 1%): pneumonitis, pericarditis, rib fracture, brachial

    plexopathy and arm edema.51,52,54 However, many of these complications were associated

    with techniques involving regional nodal irradiation and large total doses and fraction sizes

    that are no longer in use. With current irradiation techniques following lumpectomy, such

    complications will probably occur extremely rarely, if at all.

    Investigators have evaluated the risk of death from myocardial infarction following breast

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    irradiation after lumpectomy. Rutqvist and associates reported no increase in the risk of

    myocardial infarction related to left-sided versus right-sided cancers in a population-based

    cohort of 684 Swedish women who were treated with breast irradiation.55 The median followup

    was 9 years. Similarly, in an institutional-based study, Nixon and associates reported no

    increase in cardiac deaths related to laterality among 745 patients followed for a minimum of

    12 years following breast irradiation.56 Paszat and colleagues reported the results of a

    population-based study involving 3006 patients treated in Ontario between 1982 and 1987.57

    They found that at 10 years' follow-up, 2% of the women who had received radiation therapy

    for left-sided cancer had a fatal myocardial infarction, compared with 1% of those who had

    been treated for right-sided cancer (p = 0.02). Recently, Vallis and colleagues reported on the

    risk of fatal and nonfatal myocardial infarction in a similar cohort of patients treated at the

    Princess Margaret Hospital between 1982 and 1989.58 A total of 2128 patients were

    evaluated. Care was taken to review the diagnosis of myocardial infarction according to

    prespecified diagnostic criteria. At a median follow-up of 10.2 years, no excess in cardiac

    disease was identified among patients who had received radiation therapy for left-sided

    cancer compared with those who had been treated for right-sided cancer. Despite the overlap

    in the populations, the difference in the results of the 2 latter studies may reflect a different

    methodology used to identify myocardial events and potentially different radiation therapy

    practices at different centres; for example, regional radiation therapy was used in only about

    8.5% of cases at the Princess Margaret Hospital during the study period.

    In the recent meta-analysis by the EBCTCG, 20-year results from 40 randomized trials were

    evaluated (level I evidence).15 Although a reduction in the rate of death from breast cancer

    was observed, an increase in cardiovascular deaths was demonstrated. The majority of trials

    contained in the analysis were trials of locoregional radiation therapy after mastectomy. In the

    trials of breast irradiation, a significant increase in cardiovascular deaths was not observed.

    In a retrospective analysis involving 825 women taking part in randomized trials in Milan,

    Valagussa and associates reported a modest increase in the occurrence of cardiac failure

    among patients who received anthracycline-containing regimens and breast irradiation (4/501

    patients receiving adriamycin v. 3/114 receiving adriamycin plus irradiation of the left

    breast).59 In a study by Shapiro and colleagues, an increased risk of cardiac disease was

    demonstrated only among patients who received a moderate to large portion of irradiation to

    the heart and 450 mg/m2 of doxorubicin.60

    In summary, it is unlikely that irradiation to the left breast is associated with an increased risk

    of death from cardiac causes. Nonetheless, it would be prudent to exercise caution in treating

    women with left-sided breast cancers when radiation therapy may involve the anterior aspect

    of the heart.

    The risk of malignant disease resulting from breast irradiation after BCS is very low.

    It has been suggested that breast irradiation may cause an increase in 3 types of malignant

    disease: breast cancer, sarcoma and leukemia.

    Breast cancer: In a case-control study involving women under 45 years of age, a marginally

    significant elevation in risk of contralateral breast cancer was found following breast

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    irradiation after mastectomy.61 However, for most patients, other relevant risk factors such as

    family history and histologic subtype were not reported. Other studies have failed to show a

    connection between irradiation and contralateral breast cancer (level III evidence).62-64 Thus,

    at present there is no convincing evidence to support any such association. Nevertheless,

    techniques should be used that minimize exposure of the opposite breast, especially in

    younger women (level IV evidence).

    Sarcoma: Most reports regarding the association of sarcoma with radiation therapy have

    involved orthovoltage therapy and regional as well as local breast irradiation.51 Current

    evidence suggests that the risk of radiation-associated soft-tissue sarcomas is approximately 1

    in 1000 patients per decade of follow-up.53,65

    Leukemia: In a case-control study involving 82 700 women with breast cancer diagnosed

    between 1973 and 1985, there appeared to be a significant increase in risk of acute

    nonlymphocytic leukemia after regional radiation therapy, which increased with increasing

    dosage. However, after the exclusion of patients treated with alkylating agents, the relative

    risk of leukemia attributable to radiation therapy alone was not statistically significant.66

    Recently, the NASBP reported results from trials in which patients received adjuvant

    chemotherapy with doxorubicin and cyclophosphamide. Six trials involving 8533 patients

    contributed over 50 000 patient-years of follow-up. Thirty-nine cases of acute myeloid

    leukemia or myelodysplastic syndrome were observed. The incidence of leukemia or

    myelodysplastic syndrome was increased among patients who received more intensive

    chemotherapy (relative risk 6.72, p = 0.0001) or breast irradiation (relative risk 2.45, p =

    0.007).67 This is the first report of an increased risk of leukemia with breast irradiation among

    women who received chemotherapy.

    If the risk of leukemia is increased because of breast irradiation, the magnitude of the

    increase in absolute terms is very small. Clearly, this cannot be considered a contraindication

    to postoperative radiation therapy.

    Time interval between surgery and radiation therapy
    • Breast irradiation should be started as soon as possible after surgery and not later
    than 12 weeks after, except for patients in whom radiation therapy is preceded bychemotherapy. However, the optimal interval between BCS and the start ofirradiation has not been defined.

    The timing of radiation therapy has been studied in a cohort study involving 436 patients.

    Patients who began radiation therapy more than 7 weeks after BCS appeared to be at greater

    risk of recurrence than patients receiving treatment earlier (14% v. 5%).68 However, the

    interval between radiation therapy and surgery was not significant when other relevant factors

    were considered in a multivariate analysis (level V evidence). Likewise, in a study involving

    653 patients with node-negative breast cancer who received a dose of 60 Gy or greater to the

    primary tumour site, when risk factors were controlled, there was no difference in the

    recurrence rates associated with intervals ranging from 4 to 8 weeks between surgery and

    radiation therapy (level V evidence).69

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    There remain a number of conflicting reports regarding the risk of recurrence following delay

    in radiation therapy after lumpectomy. Slotman and associates reviewed 508 cases of patients

    with stage I or II breast cancer treated with breast irradiation after lumpectomy (level V

    evidence).70 At a median follow-up of 5.7 years, the rate of local recurrence was 1.7% among

    patients who started radiation within 7 weeks after surgery and 5.6% among those with a

    longer interval (p < 0.05). In a Cox proportional-hazard analysis, the interval between surgery

    and radiation remained predictive of local recurrence (p = 0.003). Froud and associates

    reviewed 1962 cases of women in British Columbia at low risk for recurrence who did not

    receive chemotherapy (level V evidence).71 At a median follow-up of 5.9 years, they found

    no difference in ipsilateral breast recurrence for intervals between surgery and radiation

    therapy of 0-20 weeks. However, the risk of distant recurrence was significantly higher with

    intervals of more than 12 weeks between surgery and the start of radiation therapy.

    In the absence of better evidence, any recommendation must rest on general principles. Thus,

    undue delay should be avoided. The Royal College of Radiologists of the United Kingdom

    set a maximum of 4 weeks as a target, but in a survey reported in 1995, only 55% of patients

    in the UK received radiation therapy within this interval.72 However, the consensus of the

    contributors to this guideline is that 4 to 8 weeks may be a reasonable delay, but a delay of

    more than 12 weeks should be avoided except when chemotherapy is administered first.

    Sequencing of chemotherapy and radiation therapy
    • The optimal sequencing of chemotherapy and breast irradiation is not clearly
    defined for patients who are also candidates for chemotherapy. Most centresfavour the administration of chemotherapy before radiation therapy. Selectedchemotherapy regimens are sometimes used concurrently with radiation therapy.There is no evidence that concurrent treatment results in better outcome, andthere is an increased chance of toxic effects, especially with anthracyclinecontainingregimens.

    The issue of sequencing arises when breast irradiation and adjuvant chemotherapy are being

    planned. There are several options, including the delivery of all chemotherapy before

    radiation therapy; the delivery of radiation therapy before chemotherapy (both of these

    options are termed "sequential regimens"); the simultaneous institution of chemotherapy and

    radiation therapy (concurrent regimens); and the initiation of radiation therapy in the midst of

    a chemotherapy program (sandwich regimens). The choice may influence survival, diseasefree

    survival and cosmetic outcome.

    The 2001 update of a study by Recht and associates73 reported the results for 244 patients

    treated with lumpectomy who were randomly assigned to receive radiation therapy before or

    after chemotherapy.74 The median follow-up was 11.3 years. There was no significant

    difference in time to any failure, time to distant metastases or time to death between the 2

    groups. The recurrence rates by site of first failure were also similar between the 2 groups

    (local recurrence 15% v. 13%, respectively; distant recurrence 26% v. 32%, respectively)

    (level II evidence). This study was relatively underpowered to detect differences in failure

    patterns. The timing of radiation therapy has been considered in other studies, with

    inconsistent results (level V evidence).75-79

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    In several trials designed to evaluate adjuvant chemotherapy regimens after BCS, radiation

    therapy was delayed until chemotherapy was completed, without any apparent increase in

    local recurrence (level I evidence).80-83

    Apart from questions of survival and local recurrence, several case series have shown that

    when chemotherapy and radiation therapy are given concurrently, the potential for increased

    acute and late adverse effects of radiation therapy, including a worse cosmetic outcome, is

    increased.83-85 This is especially so when anthracycline-based regimens are used (level III

    evidence).84

    Clinical trials
    • Patients should be offered the opportunity to participate in clinical trials
    whenever possible.

    As frequently noted above, the knowledge base for many of the interventions involved in the

    treatment of breast cancer is often extremely weak or does not exist. These particular areas of

    uncertainty, where recommendations must, at present, be based on level III, IV or V evidence,

    can be eliminated only by well-designed, randomized, controlled trials. Improvement in the

    care of future patients with breast cancer thus depends on the participation of sufficient

    numbers of patients in such trials. Physicians treating patients with breast cancer should,

    therefore, be aware of currently available trials, and patients should be given the chance to

    participate.

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  • pinoideae
    pinoideae Member Posts: 1,271
    edited July 2008

    Hi all, I have had radiation and boost as bc treatment (along with cmf) and found this thread a wee bit scary, nevertheless, intrigued, so I have read, but not commented until now.  Do I regret having radiation treatments?  It may have prevented a recurrence, but I regretted the cosmetic outcome, and possible long term side effects.  Would I have required radiation treatments if I had a mastectomy rather than a lumpectomy?  That remains to be known.  All in all, bc leaves us with some really really difficult decisions to make.  No 2 (bc patients cases are the same and no 2 families are the same.     

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited July 2008

    mdb,

    I think I am understanding that your position is, at least in part, due to your unique situation.  My teenage daughter died from rhabdomyosarcoma, a very rare, very aggressive cancer of the skeletal muscle.  Leiomyosarcoma is similar but of the smooth muscles.

    In my experience, I can assure others that bc and these cancers are as different as any other two diseases.  I don't want to sound like I am trivializing bc as I have stage IIIb IDC and my mom had DCIS.  However, I suspect that having had gone through a sarcoma, bc seems to be the lesser of two evils.  Although I went through aggressive chemo, rads and many surgeries, it was nothing compared to the hell that my daughter went through.  Perspective is everything.

  • mdb
    mdb Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2008

    prettyinpink100,

    I don't even know what ... to say. To lose, your teenage daugher, with that rhabodomyosarcoma cancer. It makes me cry, to just write this. 

    I have a 19 year old, daughter .... I am SO SORRY, prettyinpink.I know that your daughter was a wonderful person. My daughter is.

    Yet, you said it. It is perspective. 

    With stage IIIb, I'm sorry that your BC is so much more advanced, than my 2cm 1A.  Yet, you said it. It's the lesser, of two evils. Compared to these other, horrible, cancers.

    It IS perspective. 

    In the end, everyone has to make the correct decision, for themselves. And I certainly have. I will never do radiation, for breast cancer. Ever. As some sort of "preventative" measure, when the cancer has been cut out, with wide margins. As mine was. 

    When I could just get some OTHER cancer. Which I already have. 

     mdb

  • mdb
    mdb Member Posts: 52
    edited July 2008

    To Worried Hubby,

    Thank you for posting, that research. Although, it was really long, and I'll admit, I only had time, to skim it.

     But the phrase that came out, for me, which I've seen before, "No difference in life expectancy, with or without, the raditaion. 

    I'm not stupid. I don't want, to die. But when reading that, in all of the studies, why do, the radiation?

    Like I said. I'll NEVER do it. With a low-grade, breast cancer.

    mdb

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008

    I will tell you one thing you are right about MDB, this radiation business is incredibly expensive. My wife started radiation last Wednesday. Has had a total of three treatments. The clinic wasted no time in billing BCBS and with the planning, etc, the total charge to date has been $10,759 with BCBS paying $5666.92. Apparently each individual radiation treatment (and there will be 33), is going to be billed out at more than $1000, with BCBS paying about 50% of each one. I know those machines cost millions, but it won't take long to pay them off with those kind of charges. What burns me up is that the most important piece of the puzzle is, imho, the Surgical Oncologist. Statistics show the better surgeons have far superior five year survival rates (30% better or more over general surgeons). We used John Kiluk at Moffitt Cancer Center and my wife adored him. He's a young guy, nice as can be, a surgical oncologist who did his fellowship at Moffitt, is an assistant Professor there and who does nothing but breast surgery. Dr. Kiluk even called my wife on a Saturday to see how she was doing and to give her the good results of her pre-surgery MRIs.  Yea, we trusted him far more than the initial local surgeon who did the initial excisional biopsy, who called my wife to tell her it was positive for cancer, spent two minutes on the phone with her and then never returned my phone call.   And I believe Moffitt was paid, on Kiluk's  behalf, a total of about $1500 for the initial consultation, the surgery and SNB itself. .  That's a huge disparity between the radiation and surgery. Of course Moffitt got paid $10,000 or so for use of the operating room nuclear medicine, etc, but still.

    That being said, I do not believe for a second we are getting radiation because of the money per-se. Sure the providers are cashing in, but I think the non-biased studies show the benefits of radiation beyond any doubt. Lilly over at Ask an Expert for John Hopkins, just said that generally the risk of recurrence with just a lumpectomy but without radiation goes up to about 40%. With radiation, it is far, far smaller. Not a risk worth taking imho.

    I too am a little perplexed by the survival statistics. If there is a greater chance of local recurrences with Lumpectomy, even considering having radiation therapy and systemic treatment, as compared to Mastectomy, then how can the survival statistics be equal? Seems to me that some of those people who have local recurrence are going to metastasize from that recurrence, just like the 20% or so who metastasize from the first primary cancer. Nonetheless, my wife opted for lumpectomy.

    Anybody want to offer an opinion about why the planning stage for the radiation is so expensive?  Do the Radiation Oncologists really spend that much time, a number of hours, planning the radiation for each individual or is it more of a cookie cutter approach?  Best I can tell right now the Radiation Oncologist, just for her time, forgetting treatments, is getting paid well more than $1000.00 per hour. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited July 2008

    Worried Husband, et.al.,

    I've been following this discussion with interest. 

    But, just now responding.  That is a huge radiation bill.  It caused me to check my own statements from last year.  My actual radiation treatments, not boosts or set-ups, were about $600 a piece, and the weekly visit with the rad onc was billed at $225.

    The radiation is extremely individualized.  The physics department of each hospital is involved in calculating the exact prescription of each persons radiation tx.  The rad onc is only one part of the team involved.  Keep in mind, these professionals not only treat breast cancer, but brain cancer, bone cancer, prostate cancer, liver cancer, etc. 

    Re stats:  The difference in statistics for recurrence of cancer between mastectomy and lumpectomy/radiation would depend on many variables ... type of cancer (IDC vs. ILC vs. DCIS), stage, grade, margins, patient age, ER/PR HR type.  Also, mortality rate is considered death ... period.  You can still be alive, but under tx for a Stage IV cancer or a recurrence.  So mastectomy vs. lumpectomy/radiation mortality rate is a little deceiving. 

    Statistics have an enormous difference in meaning depending on the type and stage of cancer you have.  A 5% difference in mortality or recurrence rate, when deciding tx options and risks, may not be as important to someone with a Stage I dx, as to someone with a Stage III dx.  The same goes for the statistics when calculating the risk/benefit of taking an antihormonal medication.  Which has been my personal issue ... and an appropriate discussion for another thread.

    Husband ... wish your wife all the best.

    Thanks all for such a lively discussion,

    Bren

  • easyquilts
    easyquilts Member Posts: 876
    edited July 2008

    mdb.....While I respect your choice to NOT do radiation, I have to say that I have decided to do it.  I want every single cancer cell in my right breast to be GONE....and this is the best way to achieve that goal...I will probably not be able to take any of the various meds to help prevent a recurrence.

    I know...I am Stage 0, Grade 1....and I still have made this choice...I want to throw everything I can at this horrible disease.....I just had my sixth treatment...will hve a total of 30....And I am glad I can do something....even though I understand that it might not  have been necessary, it was necessary for me...and my peace of mind...

    Sandy 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2008
    Survival Improved by Radiation After Breast Cancer Surgery

    Key Words

    Breast cancer, radiation therapy. (Definitions of many terms related to cancer can be found in the Cancer.gov Dictionary.)

    Summary

    Combined data from 78 randomized clinical trials show that radiation therapy after either breast-conserving surgery (BCS) or mastectomy in women with early breast cancer significantly reduces both five-year recurrence and 15-year mortality rates. This is the first research to show that postsurgical radiation therapy in this group of patients helps them to live longer in addition to lowering their risk of local recurrence.

    Source

    The Lancet, Dec. 17, 2005 (see the journal abstract).
    (Lancet. 2005 Dec 17;366(9503):2087-106)

    Background

    In women with early-stage breast cancer treated with surgery alone (breast-conserving surgery or mastectomy), microscopic residual disease may not be eliminated and can eventually cause life-threatening metastatic recurrence. Radiation therapy after surgery has been widely recommended for women at high risk of recurrence, based on the results of clinical trials showing that such treatment cuts the rate of local recurrence (a return of cancer in the remaining breast tissue, scar, chest wall, or nearby lymph nodes).

    However, the same trials, taken individually, have failed to show whether these women actually lived longer thanks to the additional radiation therapy.

    For that reason, even with widespread support, these recommendations are not always heeded. When detected early enough, local recurrence can often be treated with additional surgery alone, so some physicians and patients still elect to avoid radiation therapy and its associated side effects.

    The Study

    Combined data (called a meta-analysis) from 42,000 women - collected from 78 randomized trials begun between 1958 and 1991 - was performed by the Early Breast Cancer Trialists' Collaborative Group (EBCTCG). The availability of extensive 15-year survival data allowed the investigators to reliably quantify the relationship between successful local control and long-term survivorship.

    The individual trials compared varying types of local control:

    • radiation therapy after breast-conserving surgery (BCS) vs. no radiation therapy after BCS
    • postmastectomy radiation therapy vs. no postmastectomy radiation therapy
    • more extensive surgery vs. less extensive surgery
    • more extensive surgery versus less extensive surgery, with radiation therapy after both
    • more extensive surgery vs. less extensive surgery, with radiation therapy only after less extensive surgery

    The EBCTCG reviewed the trial results for how long it took breast cancer to recur; whether recurrence was local or distant; mortality (due to breast cancer or otherwise); and the incidence of second primary cancers before breast cancer recurrence.

    Results

    Radiation therapy after breast-conserving surgery was responsible for a highly statistically significant reduction in local recurrence. Combined, the data showed a 19 percent absolute reduction of the risk of recurrence five years after treatment. Although none of the trials showed a significant reduction in 15-year mortality when analyzed on their own, the meta-analysis revealed a highly significant absolute reduction of 5.4 percent.

    For women with cancer that had spread to the lymph nodes (node-positive) and who underwent a full mastectomy, postoperative radiation therapy provided a similar reduction in recurrence and mortality: a 17 percent absolute reduction of the risk of recurrence five years after treatment and a 5.4 percent reduction in 15-year mortality.

    When subgroups were analyzed, the investigators found that the higher the risk of recurrence, the greater the potential benefit of post-surgery radiation therapy. The investigators concluded that for any group of early breast cancer patients, a local treatment difference that reduces the five-year local recurrence risk by 20 percent would reduce the 15-year breast cancer mortality by 5.2 percent.

    In other words, says Jeff Abrams, M.D., of the National Cancer Institute's Cancer Therapy Evaluation Program, "for every four local recurrences that are avoided by the addition of radiation therapy, about one breast cancer death could be avoided over the next 15 years."

    Limitations

    The one drawback of radiation therapy noted by the EBCTCG meta-analysis was an increase in the incidence of secondary cancers (new cancers unrelated to the original breast cancer) and in mortality from heart disease and lung cancer. However, the investigators emphasize that modern radiation therapy technology now minimizes the radiation doses to the heart, lungs, and other breast, compared to the doses given at the time these trials were conducted.

    Comments

    "These long awaited results from the EBCTCG overview analysis demonstrate an important effect for adjuvant radiation therapy in the treatment of primary breast cancer," says Abrams, noting that the survival benefit is apparent both in women who undergo breast-conserving surgery and those with cancer in their lymph nodes who undergo a mastectomy.

    The authors place their results in the context of combination therapy, and state that "the moderate differences in 15-year breast cancer mortality produced by better local control can be combined with the moderate differences produced by chemotherapy and hormonal therapy...yielding in total quite substantial effects on 15-year breast cancer mortality."

  • mdb
    mdb Member Posts: 52
    edited September 2008

    To easyquilts,

    Sandy, I respect your choice, to get the radiation. After reading, everying, you have obviously made the correct choice, for yourself. You think the radiation will benefit you.

     After I read, everything, my choice was to not do it. I do not believe the radiation will benefit, me. And I will never do it. 

    I think I wrote about my Leiomysarcoma cancer, before. Diagnosed, December, 2004.  This growth, on my buttocks. Excised, at that time, with wide, 3cm margins. A lot of other tests, for metastasis, but none ever discovered. And no adjuvant treatments. Because this cancer is so rare, no $ to be made.

    And last Wednesday, I had my Chest/Abdomen/Pelvis CT, for the Leio reccurrence. Nothing. No change, since December, 2004.No spread, of the Leio.

    They have succered me, into that one. I still get the yearly Leio CTs. Although, the reality, I just do it, because I'm a long-term, smoker.  And the CT would discover lung cancer, in an early stage.

    But so far, I'm clear. 

    I had a new doctor, this time, at the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance. A Sarcoma doc, but also a breast doc. And she'd read my history, and kept insisting on telling me to take some of those drugs. Since my breast cancer was ER/PR+

    She said, "you can take this, and THIS."  And was quoting these huge, false percentages, about how it would "help" me.

    Although, in the end, she did say, there IS no difference, in life expectancy. Whether you do this radiation or drugs, or not.

    There is not. In early stage, breast cancer. Which is what I had.

    What will happen, is, the breast cancer will come back. And it will have to be cut out, again. 

    I am totally happy, with this. If the breast cancer, recurs, I'll get it cut out, again.

    Sandy, you are not. Happy, with that. So, good luck, to you.

    And good luck, to me. 

    On another note, my 58 year old sister had Stage 4 Ovarian Cancer, in January, 2008. It was surgically cut out, with clear margins. She refused, chemo. She's doing the Budwig Protocol. 

    I'm starting it, next week. 

    Here's one of the latest links she sent me:

    http://www.NaturalNews.com/023689.html

    This is all about ... information.

  • rose769922
    rose769922 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2008

    I had radiation last year.  I had stage 1 no nodes involved -estrogen -, so I wasn't a candidate for tamoxifen.  The oncologist also suggested chemo which I denied.  I thought it was over-kill, since it increased my chances of not returning by a few percent.  I was wondering why rads was needed.I wish I knew about this website last year.  

    Rose

  • MarieKelly
    MarieKelly Member Posts: 591
    edited July 2008

    ROSE,

    For you, rads was probably necesssary because of the type of cancer you had. That's not to say you definately would suffer a local recurrence had you declined radiation, because odds are that you wouldn't have. However, ER negative tumors are usually poorly differentiated, aggressive and generally more likely to reoccur both locally in the breast and distantly as a metastasis as compared to a minimally aggessive, well-differentiated type of cancer.  Because of these facts, it makes the risk of local recurrence from an aggressive cancer a much more concerning possibility, despite however low the chance of it actually happening might be.  In other words, the risk inherent in an actual recurrence for a person with an aggressive tumor, is far greater than for someone with a non-aggressive tumor.  It's the non-aggressive type that those of us who feel radiation after lumpectomy isn't always necessary are talking about here.       

    With a lumpectomy and negative nodes, radiation is used as a localized treatment in the hopes of decreasing the chance of any stray cells remaining in the breast after the surgical procedure.  It's not 100% effective and many who have rads after a lumpectomy still do get local tumor recurrence, but it helps a small percentage.  Although numerous small studies in which factors identifying those who are the least likely to gain any benefit from radiotherapy have been discussed/declared, there is still a lot of controversy about it and no definition describing those who can safely avoid radiation after lumpectomy has yet been officially adopted by the medical community and put into widespread use. 

    Until the day comes (and it's on it's way!) when they "officially" identify those who can safely avoid radiation after lumpectomy, just about everyone with an invasive tumor will continue to recieve radiation  - except the rare few who take it upon themselves to just say no.  Most of the few of us here who have made the choice to decline radiation, did so after a lot of personal research that brought us to the conclusion that, in all liklihood, our particular type of cancer and prognostic factors align with those currently being discussed in the literature as probably not really needing radiation after lumpectomy. In all my reading, I've never seen ER negative as being a favorable factor for avoiding radiation after lumpectomy. So in having radiation, you did what needed to be done for the kind of cancer YOU had and you shouldn't waste a moment second guessing it.

    MDB,

    Congratulations on the all clear CT!!!   I had my fingers crossed for you waiting to hear how it turned out.  Hope things continue that way for you.

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