I was diagnosted with DCIS
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I have 39 years old, no kids, none in may family with cancer, and no birth control with pils
On my baseline mammogram was found small fibroadenoma, then I had a biposy, still fibroadenoma and later I decide to have a complet excision of the fibroadenoma, the patology showed I had DCIS 4mm, cribriform, margins 2 mm.
I am so scarried and so confused, as all the doctors told to me before i have no risk and none had the suspicions of this diagnostic.
I would like to talk to other with similar diagnostic.
I have this webaddress from my doctor.
Thank you!
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sorry you joined our club but these ladies here will help you out so much...I found out I had 7 clusters of clarifications in half my breast which from 2 biopsies thought was DCIS but during my surgery they did find 1 spot of IDC. I had my 1st mamo in Jan. since I turned 40 last fall. Now that I'm back to work I don't get to these boards as much as I would like but still try to. Hoping the best for you...You miught want to ask your doctor to do a MRI sometimes they show more than mamo's
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Hi!
It sounds like they got good margins when they removed the DCIS, so I think there's a good chance this will be the end of it. Remember that DCIS is contained in the ducts and hasn't spread elsewhere in your body. If they got it with good clean margins, you're in good shape. Make sure you go to the DCIS section on this site and read up on it. That's what I did when I was diagnosed and it really helpedme understand what I was dealing with.
Wishing you well.
Linda -
Hi...I was diagnosed just last week, so I know how scared you are feeling....Thisi is a wonderful place to come with your fears and concerns....
Sorry you had to join us, but glad you found us, too.
Sandy from Cincinnati
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I'd just like to add that it looks like your doctor is very concerned with getting you all the info you need and I love that you got this website. I found this on my own after my DCIS/Paget's diagnosis, and it has been helpful beyond words. You'll get such fabulous help and support here!
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RedBubbles, You have a very small area of DCIS that was found incidentally. In the realm of BC must people would consider you lucky. Nevertheless, it is a very scary world you are entering and I understand your fears and confusion completely. I was diagnosed 5 years ago (at the age of 49) with an area about the size of yours, solid and cribiform. I had lumpectomy only, no radiation. That may be an option for you also, though you would need another round of surgery to get larger margins. Also your age plays a role in this. Because you are young your doctor may suggest radiation. What is your next step?
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I do not understand what is the lumpectomy, how wide it is?
and also the connection between age and radiation?
Thank you!
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I think sometimes they say if your 40 or under they may be a little more aggressive which would maybe be giving you radiation. One time someone had me post a thread for them called DCIS and no rads. I'll try and pump that up for you so you can read through it may be helpful. So shortly it should be to the top of active conversations if I find it...
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Red, lumpectomy is the surgical removal of the lump, as when you had your fibroadenoma removed. Another name is excisional biopsy, though I think by definition to some lumpectomy and excisional biopsy are 2 different things. In the end it's all the same, you had something surgically removed. To go with no rads the doctors like to have 1 cm (10 mm) of clean margins, meaning no DCIS. 2mm is cutting it kind of close. A lot of women go on to have a second surgery in order to remove more tissue so that they can obtain that goal of 1 cm. (I guess you could think of it like an egg, the yellow part being the DCIS and surrounding that is the white of the egg, they would want to have 1 cm of that white stuff.)
If you google Melvin Silverstein and Van Nuys Prognostic Index (VNPI) you can get a general idea of what your treatment options are. There are two VNPI's out there, the newer one has age added in as a factor, along with the other 3 factors - size of DCIS, margin and tumor grade . As Rockwellgirl said above they are a little more agressive with younger women, but if everything else if favorable, margins, size and grade, than no rads may be an option for you. Most likely you will be talking to a radiation oncologist just to get his/her opinion.
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Red I did want to share that I am taking tamoxifin and haven't really noticed any side effects. I always had a few night sweats now I think I'm just having them a little more often which might be due to the medicine. So I just don't want you to be to scared about taking that if your doctor suggest it. Good luck Red... This site also has a live chat room but you need Java downloaded to get to it. It took me a while to figure out that was why I couldn't find it.
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I was recently diagnosed with DCIS. I have the pathology report but only understand parts of it. In short, it reads that I have, Apocrine DCIS, intermediate nuclear grade with intraluminal necrosis,arising in a background of hylinized sclerosing nodule. also says that I have ductal hyperplasia & microcalcifications. In addition, I have had silicone breast implants for about 20 years. I need to decide between lumpectomy followed by radiation or a mastecomy. The surgeon said that having the breast implants makes it harder to see if other cancer has formed & the calcifications mean that I am at higher risk of it recurring. Any advice with any of this? Anybody with breast implants & DCIS?
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troubled,
You might want to PM danix5. She had implants and DCIS.
Kimber -
Hey Kim!!!
Troubled -I am here and yes I did have implants and DCIS and many fibroadenoma over the years.
As far as the cals making it higher risk for recurrence, don't think so!!! DCIS intermediate which you have I believe, if they get clear margins you have a small chance of recurrence. Read some great books on breast cancer in the library or Borders and research DCIS! Ignore the part when some in my opinion ignorant dr's would like to call this PRE_CANCER, it is NOT precancer it is pre invasive cancer if they find you do not have any invasion or microinvasion.
Implants can hide or shadow cancer, but that is not likely if the implant is UNDER the muscle.? Was yours placed above the muscle if so then your dr is right and you should take their advice on how to proceed from here with implants in place or not! Mine is under the muscle and NO dr ever told me they would cause them to miss a cancer with the screening I was doing every 6mths, ultra,mammo and MRI.
Implants in do make surgery a little more nerve racking for the surgeon but I have had probably 8/9 since my implants had been placed in 1997/8 , Can't remember which! It is doable with implants I had lumpectomies and wide excession with the implants in and no leaking or ruptures ever occurred!
I have had the same wordage on some of my many path reports through the years that you posted here. I had the DCIS in two areas and it was high grade comedeo, (sp).
Please pm with with any specific questions! Glad to help you through this.
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Regarding radiation.....I believe that age is not a factor. Most doctors surgeons and oncologists will advise you that if you are having a lumpectomy, follow up with radiation. When I went through radiation, there were all age groups, 20, 30, 40, 50, and even late 60's and although not all had DCIS, the one who was 34, the one who was 51 (me) and the two who were 62 and 66 did have DCIS. The radiation recommendation was based on clinical research findings that a lumpectomy followed by radiation as opposed to lumpectomy alone was the best outcome route to take.
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Regarding radiation.....I believe that age is not a factor. Most doctors surgeons and oncologists will advise you that if you are having a lumpectomy, follow up with radiation. When I went through radiation, there were all age groups, 20, 30, 40, 50, and even late 60's and although not all had DCIS, the one who was 34, the one who was 51 (me) and the two who were 62 and 66 did have DCIS. The radiation recommendation was based on clinical research findings that a lumpectomy followed by radiation as opposed to lumpectomy alone was the best outcome route to take.
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Regarding radiation.....I believe that age is not a factor. Most doctors surgeons and oncologists will advise you that if you are having a lumpectomy, follow up with radiation. When I went through radiation, there were all age groups, 20, 30, 40, 50, and even late 60's and although not all had DCIS, the one who was 34, the one who was 51 (me) and the two who were 62 and 66 did have DCIS. The radiation recommendation was based on clinical research findings that a lumpectomy followed by radiation as opposed to lumpectomy alone was the best outcome route to take.
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Thank you all for your posts.
After the surgery-excision, I still have some pain when i do not wear my bra .
did that happen to you too?
thank you.
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Welcome to these boards. Sorry you had to join us, but glad your doctor recommended the site. You'll get a lot of good information and support here.
The pain after excision is normal. My surgeon had me wear a sports bra 24/7 for at least 2 weeks to keep the breast more stationary. It's not exactly comfortable but it definitely makes a difference. You can find ones that hook in the front at Wal-Mar for only $7.
Take care
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Red, it is so frightening to hear that you have cancer, but dcis is not life threatening as you probably know. Like you I have no family history of BC. Total bad surprise. I had lumpectomy and 6 weeks of radiation. I am 2 weeks post treatment and feeling normal again, physically and almost back to normal mentally as well. Just have to be more vigilant with screening which, in the long run, may be for the better.
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Red - I was diagnosed with DCIS, had the lumpectomy, told to have 33 radiation treatments, and then go on Tamaxofin. When I met with the radiation oncologist for the consult, I was told I was a candidate for a clinical due to my age (46). The clinical trial was for partial breast radiation, and they are looking for 3000 women in the US under the age of 50, they currently have 2400. I chose to go the traditional route, not the partial, but you may want to ask your doctor if you are a candidate?
Interestingly, when I went to another hospital (Boston medical center) for my radiation consult, BMC requested the pathology slides from the hospital where I had my bioposy and the lumpectomy. My pathology changed slighted, increasing the grade from 2 to 3. One of the most important pieces is the pathology, and even though my grade increased, it did not change my treatment. But, now more than ever, I am going to have the BRCA testing since my mom died from ovarian cancer.
Good luck with your decision, gather as much information as you can, and get several opinions. This website has alot of information, and also check out the Susan B. Komen website.
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I am feeling very sad actually.
Is there another choice than radiation and that medication?
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Dear Red Bubbles (love your name!) I am so sorry you are feeling sad! It is hard to weigh out all these different options and decide what is best for you and your special situation. If you want to keep your breasts, then really the only option is to remove the areas of dcis and do the radiation. It will most likely be recommended that you do the tamoxifen as well. That is entirely up to you though!
If you want to go to the more radical option, then it would be to do a mastectomy. This is not necessary in most cases of dcis but for many of us, we just want to be done with the guessing games and uncertainty of what they might find next! Many of us dcis gals have gone the mastectomy route (myself included) and so far, it has been fine for me. However, it IS a radical step and you need to be prepared for all it entails. I suggest you do a lot of reading and research and ask lots of questions on here. Then you can make a decision that makes sense for you and your comfort level.
Hugs!
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Red Bubbles, the question that comes to my mind is "what does your doctor recommend you do?" With an area as small as yours opting for no radiation is a possibility, but you most likely will need to have larger margins. Have you discussed this with your doctor? A lot of the people here get second or third opinions, it's a good idea to talk to more than one doctor. After I was diagnosed I feel into quite a severe depression. The doctors couldn't understand why because my prognosis was good. I know this is a very scary time for you and you have every right to feel sad and confused. I hope your doctor is giving you some kind of guidance this. Let us know what he/she suggests for you as the next step.
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The radiologist told to me first step is to have another excision on the same place to have margins a litlle larger, and then we will talk again.
The surgeon said the margins are cleaned and I have to take either radiation or medication (for 5 years).
I was asking him to talk to the radiologist and oncologist to see their opinion.
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Red, I am in a similar boat. Diagnosed with DCIS, 20mm, comedo, grade 3; however, I do have it in my family, and I am age 50.
I had the excision biopsy 3 weeks ago. still hurts. I have a MRI on Friday for both breasts. I am deciding between lump and mast - after you read awhile it all starts to be less overwhelming, but at first I was feeling as you are. I understand that the rads arent a piece of cake, meaning they are exhausting, etc. I am also leaning toward more aggressive treatment than less. I decide by 6/19. w/Surgery in July.
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I do not understand ehy LCIS doea not require radiation or chemo?
Why is so sfae that LCIS?
What is the difference? other than lobural / ductal?
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Red Bubbles, Having a re-excision is a good next step. This way you will know for sure how large an area of DCIS is there and you will be able to get larger margins. Hopefully, there will be no more cancer cells and only nomal tissue will be found. It is really hard to make a final decision until you know for sure what's cookin'. Do you have a date scheduled for this yet?
I don't understand all the pathology behind the difference between LCIS and DCIS other than one starts in the lobules and the other in the ducts. For some reason LCIS does NOT go on to become invasive but is more of a risk factor for breast cancer to occur in either breast. DCIS, on the other hand can become invasive.
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how long does it take until your partner can "touch" your breast after the surgery?
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Hi Red. What ever happened? Did you have your surgery? Did you get bigger margins? You had pretty much my Dx. 4mm DCIS, micropappilary, cribriform. Mine was all removed in biopsy, so I achieved my margins the first go. I was 45 at the time. No rads recommended. I am on tamox. It's not too bad, some night sweats, irregular periods. I get a vaginal ultrasound every 6 months to moniter the lining as well as my pre-DCIS fibroids. Our pathology is really great. Chances are very high that it will be behind us. It's taken me about a year to stop thinking about it as much. There is a good book called "Assess your true risk of breast cancer". You can get it at Amazon. It's written by a geneticist named Patricia Kelly and she does a very nice job explaining DCIS. Good Luck!
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Red Bubbles---LCIS and DCIS are both non-invasive in-situ bc. LCIS is contained within the breast lobules and DCIS is contained within the ducts; neither have broken thru into the surrounding breast tissue. The main difference is the potential to become invasive: studies report that if left untreated, DCIS may become invasive in 30 to 50% over 15 years; the potential for LCIS to become invasive is thought to be much less--(my surgeon quoted 5%, but I've seen studies that say as high as 25%)--therefore no rads or chemo. There is a lot of controversy, many still feel it is not a precursor of invasive bc, but only a marker for higher risk; many don't even call it cancer--my oncologist stated it IS cancer, just non-invasive. But it sounds like you have DCIS, not LCIS, right? So your treatment would be geared differently--usually lumpectomy, rads and tamoxifen are recommended if the DCIS is localized; if widespread, often a mastectomy is recommended.
Anne
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