Should I tell my friend about my illness?

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leaf Member Posts: 8,188
edited June 2014 in Life After Breast Cancer
Should I tell my friend about my illness?

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  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    I have a problem I hope you may help me with. I only have LCIS - my friend knows about that.



    My friend has advanced pancreatic cancer almost certainly inoperable, diagnosed Feb 2008. That means she is going to die of it. Right now she is talking, walking, and driving. Some days she has bad days and good days. She says she's hoping to survive for 3 years. (I think the average would be something closer to 12 months, so the average survival might be until roughly next spring.



    I had surgery for my carpal tunnel (through workman's comp) in Feb and Mar 2008. Last fall and winter, before my friend was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, I told her that some of my docs were saying it was possible I may have a rare disease. It has a very variable outcome. The average survival is over 10 years. For some people it does not progress, and some people die of it.



    Most of my current symptoms are in my hands, with puffy fingers, and decreased dexterity, and I limp after walking a few blocks. I've had foot problems in the past, so they may not be connected with my rare disease. My friend (who is a nurse) was the first to notice I had puffy fingers. I told her last fall and winter that a doc suspected I may have this rare disease, but I was only diagnosed in March 2008, after my friend's pancreatic cancer diagnosis. I did NOT tell my friend about my rare disease diagnosis.



    I did not want to burden her with my problems, as she has so much on her mind. She does NOT want to talk about how she is feeling. I want to respect her wishes.



    I couldn't stand the specialist who diagnosed me. He was kind, but he smiled the entire time he was diagnosing me. I have an appointment to see a specialist at a major institution in the fall. I don't think this affects things very much as the specialist who diagnosed me said there is nothing I can do.



    It is certainly possible that all of my carpal tunnel symptoms were and are due to my rare disease. So I don't know if workman's comp is going to make me pay for my carpal tunnel treatment.



    I don't want to burden her with my problems. I'd ask on my rare disease online support, but they only support positive posts. (You get blasted on the forum if you complain. Some forms of the disease have a MUCH worse prognosis, and some aren't life threatening at all.) I can't stand that attitude. I am much more into direct, flat out communication - good, bad, whatever.



    Should I tell my friend about my rare disease? I am afraid I will let slip some of this stuff when I talk to her.

















  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2008

    I am not sure I'd make a large production about it, but when the time is right, you could ask her if she knows anything about this disease.

    As a nurse, I find that my peers are great teachers, maybe this will help keep lines of communication open between you two. 

    PS, just because she doesn't want to talk about it, fine, but do be sure to ask (and really Want to know) how's she's doing and occasionally ask what she needs.

    I am so sorry your friend is so ill.  I'm also sorry you have to deal with this diagnosis yourself.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    Thank you so much, Dotti, particularly since you are a nurse too.



    She only knows what I told her about the disease last fall. If she hadn't pointed out my puffy fingers last summer, I may not be diagnosed with this today (thank goodness for the observation of nurses!) as none of the doctors or physician assistants picked up on my symptom (I thought it was part of carpal tunnel.)



    I think our lines of communication are good. I take her to about 1/3 of her medical appointments. During her daily rad/chemo period 2 months ago, I took her to almost all of them.



    We went out for lunch yesterday, and she said this week her radiologist told her that there was minimal tumor necrosis (in other words minimal response to her therapy), then he said "Oh, well." (which means it is inoperable and it is terminal.)



    Would he say, 'Oh, well' if it was his life in question? I told her I'd be really angry too, and he needed to learn more about talking to patients. I've tried to make it safer for her to open up. She wants her docs to be more responsible for the outcomes of their treatments. I told her that some tumors have different cells in them, some respond and some don't. But that probably wasn't the right thing to say. But I can keep trying.



    Thanks so much again, Dotti!!!!

  • omo
    omo Member Posts: 193
    edited June 2008

    I think when it comes to what you decide to tell people, be they family, friends, workmates or whatever, you must assess the moment, if you wish,.... tell her when the time just feels right ,if ever,

    wishing you all the best

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    Thank you for your support, omo. I don't want to burden her, but I think she is wondering about some of my extra symptoms and extra appointments. I don't have to tell her about my prognosis unless she asks, because it is so variable. Thanks again, omo.

  • omo
    omo Member Posts: 193
    edited June 2008

    I feel this because I went through this with several people.do you tell or not and it can be bewildering.Sometimes talking helps,

  • sushanna1
    sushanna1 Member Posts: 764
    edited June 2008

    My opinion.   If she is a really good friend, she would want to know (and may even suspect) that something is wrong.   It might actually distract her from her own illness.  Don't make too big a deal out of it, but do tell her.  One of the things that I hated about having cancer was that some friends avoided telling me bad news.  Guess that they didn't want to depress me, but gee--it just made me feel left out.

    Whatever you decide.  Good luck.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2008

    If she was a  source of helping diagnose the problem, I feel strongly that she'd appreciate knowing that you followed thru and appreciate her input.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    Thank you all so much for your opinions!!! I do get counseling, and will thoroughly discuss this with my counselor. I wanted to post it here (rather than in the LCIS or just diagnosed topics) because then I'd get exposure to more people who had been closer to my friend's shoes - be in a more frightening position.



    My counselor said if I tell her, it must be for my **friend's** benefit, not for **my** benefit. I don't want my friend to feel like she has to take care of me when she is ailing.



    She very well may not remember many details about what my rare disease entails. (I get mired in details often.) It was several months after I had repeatedly told her I had LCIS, and sharing my anxiety about LCIS (this was in spring 2006, long before her diagnosis) that she asked me if I *had* LCIS. She *definitely* does *not* know about my decreased average survival span (because I didn't know it then), and I don't intend to tell her that.



    It helps me very much to know that if you had a very bad prognosis, you might feel 'left out' if you didn't know. I will discuss this and practice thoroughly with my counselor.



    Thank you all so very, very much!

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited June 2008

    Well,

    My best friend is going through a horrible divorce. She is my wing man through my journey. I think that sharing in each other's problems takes our minds off our own. Does that make sense?

    Janis

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    It makes perfect sense, Janis. Thank you so much!

  • fire
    fire Member Posts: 153
    edited June 2008

    Leaf, can you please tell what  rare disease you have?

    I'm limping, too and can't walk, have pain from knees down, even can't sleep.

    It is started suddenly on May 3 2008.

    I'm on Arimidex since March 2007.

     I had  legs pain before bc, I have arthritis and I was walking.

     for a year I'm swimming, even started walk better, didn't take painkiller.

    And suddenly I can't walk and have great pain.

    Legs are very weak .

     X-Ray and ultrasound normal, not big arthritis, and my left leg has no arthritis at all, but in great pain.

    I was of Arimidex for 2 weeks, but not big differens.

     I want to have test to see if it is not metastases.

    thank you

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited June 2008

    I think sharing your concerns is OK. Sometimes we talk around real issues with people and everybody feels empty. To talk about something that actually means something to you is real.

    Everybody has insight, it's quite possible your friend, who certainly has been run through the medical mill has insight about your concerns.  

    I'd keep my sensitive radar up.  It's not so much about you or her as about the two of your making a connection and sharing your concern.  Now if you were guys it'd be all different and you'd be discussing baseball or fishing or something. Kiss

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited June 2008

    Yes, I really think I should tell her. I will work on being clear and not making a production out of it with my therapist.



    Thank you all so very, very much. I really appreciate your insight.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited June 2008

    Let us know what you do.

    Sometimes I run into people I know have problems and end up at a loss about what to say.  You can only discuss the weather and the election for so long. 

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited July 2008

    I told her  about my new diagnosis yesterday, including all the details. 

    Before I told her, I gave her info about a radiation treatment she was interested in, but thought she couldn't have.  I showed her a paper that showed people had chemo + conventional rads before this new treatment.  I told her I don't know if she qualifies for it, but I thought if she's interested in it, it would be reasonable to ask. In the study, it didn't improve survival, but at least she may have another option, and doesn't have to blame herself she didn't make more of the choices she wanted.

    She let me have my say, then pretty much changed the subject.  I'm very glad I told her, though, because now I don't have to feel I'm hiding anything from her.

    Thank you again so much for your advice and support!  I really appreciate it!

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited July 2008

    glad you feel better and that it's off the table now. 

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