Starting Chemo May 2008
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Linda,
So we were at the bar together. Your next date? Is it, perhaps, June 19? Meanwhile ladies, I was laughing because of the inappropriate signs and faces my friend was making behind the nurse's back. I will NOT be requesting nurse Emily next time. Plus, she shoved the cytoxin in in a half an hour which gave me a head ache. I am going for the slow track next time. I brough my husband's incredible homemade brownies today -- two for the doc; two for the schedule guy and my knight in shining EMLA armor, Michael and the needle weenie nurse, Karen; and two for my oncology nurses. Sadly, they did not earn the brownies. We ate them instead. Sucked on ice chips while A went in. Pee was a lovely orange...kind of an organic orange. Okay, I may be grossing some of you out. By the way, the EMLA worked well....barely barely felt the needle numbing the port. I am tired but happy that round two is done. Like some of you, I am breaking it up to two cycles of four rounds. AC first four the taxol herceptin the hercepting for an extra 40 weeks...yiiiii. I saw a cool look today. Baseball cap, but a cool cotton beanie under it with big hoop earring. It looked good. Okay, so maybe it looked good cause the wearer is in her early 30's but still....did I tell you how fun it is that my little under the chin hairs (come on...admit it...some of you have those too) are flying right out? My feeling is if I can spurt blood about, I can have an all out gross out session tonight. Congrats on chemo graduation, by the way. We all aspire to be you and we all will make it. Meanwhile, I will play one (okay, four) games of internet scrabble, take an ativan and a dex whatever the hell they are called and check in tomorrow. Goodnight.
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Hey all,
I've had an up and down day. I'm sorry - I'm gonna drag us back into the "hair" thing. I noticed (and so did my dh and my hairdresser) that the texture is starting to change (it's only been 8 days!). I just got the bangs trimmed today (while they are still there) and my hairdresser was great. She said "I'll come in whenever you want me to, in the evening or my day off, and we'll do whatever you want." She also said I can bring her whatever wig I chose and she will style it like my current style. That was comforting. But I feel hair obssessed right now. I think after it goes (and a short grieving period!), I will be o.k., but I keep waiting for it to just fall off. Aaacck.
Tina - Good to see you back and I wish I could be that comfortable at work. I'm glad the "youngstas" are being nice to you. I don't know how my "old guys" would react. Probably fine, but I don't know if I can bring myself to that.
Linda and Eddie - I am on the same kind of schedule (different meds) of 2 courses/4 cycles. So we'll hang in together!
And Rock, all I have to say to you is - "Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday deeeaaarr Roooock, Happy Birthday to you!!" Hope you have a better-than-great day!
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Hi All,
Thanks for tips on my job issues. Website is great and will help alot too. I hoped full disclosure wasn't required but it's nice to have proof. Surgery is good reason for gap and followup visits (unless I'm done by then?) No other details. Rox, sorry for your problems. Hope you conquer them on your terms soon.
It's supposed to be 90's here so I'll try out my safari hat and sunblock. Too hot for a bike ride I guess. It's way too early for this heat. Hope it's not a sign of how summer will be??
Take care and enjoy!
Janice
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ROCK!!!
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Family, Cris, Sue: Youses guys are such sweethearts. I'm running a slight fever, and this is just what the doctor ordered.
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Grrr on the fever. Time for that Tylenol. Great birthday present, eh?
If all this fun isn't enough...I got my period again, 2 1/2 weeks from the last one.
. I joked with the onc 2 weeks ago that not even chemo could break my every 28 day schedule. He said something like "Don't count on that going forward". pfffft I hate being wrong...I'm always right. Just ask my husband
And here I was hoping they'd just go away. Can't we at least have 1 benefit?
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I haven't posted lately, but have been reading everyone's posts daily. Expecting the hair loss to start sometime during the middle of next week, I have learned a lot from reading everyone else's experiences! Had my hair cut close to scalp so could get used to it. Have worn my wig once, but think that I prefer the scarves. (It's 90 degrees here)
Getting thru treatment #1 was a little easier than I had expected. I have even entertained the idea of going back to work. Right now I am off on FMLA and have applied for my STD bebefits. I figure I have paid for it over the years, why not use it. Then, I go this past Wed. for labs--WBC was 1.8--now going back to work is not an option--I work in a Long Term Care facility and there are numerous germs/bacteria and other critters that I could be exposed to. Had Neulasta shot day after treatment, no problems-no bone pain.
Still have a slight metallic taste occasionally. But the taste buds are back! Definately have a touch of chemo brain. Taking Zantac for the acid reflux, which still bothers me, but thankfully the nausea is gone.
Next treatment is June 18. Reading how everyone else is dealing with this really helps.
Happy Birthday Rock---I'd like to go to NYC one day--I have a cousin who works at Macy's there!
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Happy birthday. Take yourself to see "Passing Strange" on Broadway. It was written, directed and starred in by my brother's best pal. It was nominated for 7 Tony's. Go. It'll rock your world.
Neulasta for me today.
I got my period right in the middle of the first chemo treatment. Chemo two felt smoother except that bloody blood incident yesterday.
So, Linda and Kristy...we are on the same chemo schedule I think? June 19th next?
My hair also changed texture after the 8th day ... now it is coming out in droves but not enough to shave yet.
It's the weekend. Sigh. Relax. It's cloudy and gray here . . . nice and cool.
Cheers to all of you.
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Happy Birthday, Rock! - Enjoy your special day.
Thanks for the anniversary wishes the other day for us. We did go out to eat for dinner and picked the girls up and went to DQ for ice cream. One of them was hoping we were bringing a puppy home - she was sadly disappointed with her chocolate cone!
Hope everyone has a no s/e weekend!
Thanks,
Julie
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Dear Julie, I just got off the phone with a friend who turned 50. I shared with her my "rule" and it applies to you, too.
Ever since I turned 40 (i.e., even before bc), I celebrate my birthday all summer long. And since 40 was a big one, it got celebrated all year. (My friend Nic is almost the same exact age as me. She joins me in the summerlong celebration.)
While I'm not married, the same "rule" applies to anniversaries. I strongly urge you to celebrate your 25th anniversary the whole summer (intensely) and to keep celebrating it for a whole year. It is the RULE! (And trust me, it is loads of fun.) Every trip to the DQ is a celebration! The excuse to go a long walk -- it's your anniversary! I'm eating a PB&J sandwich on a parkbench with a friend -- because it's the Summer of My Birthday! And every liquid that tastes especially good is a toast: a glass of tea, h20 with a lemon wedge, cold whey protein drink.
I know it sounds ridiculous, but really, it is a lot of fun.
HAPPY 25th ANNIVERSARY JULIE! HAVE A WONDERFUL ANNIVERSARY WEEKEND!!!! -
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Due to your bravery and acceptance of your new reality (bald bald) I had every intention of following your lead and going to my appts. topless yesterday but it was too darn cold here. In the 40's. There is new snow on Pikes Peak. So today, while I did sport the wig while driving to town for a new appt, I took off the wig while on the treatment table. It felt soooooooooooo good. Didn't hurt that the fellow was bald himself. Says his line is "I volunteer my time at the cancer center because everyone's hair grows back". Just doesn't happen to be true for him.
I'm going now to make some brownies and will tell my family it's in honor of your birthday!
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40s? Yikes! But I appreciate the sentiment!
Re: "There is new snow on Pikes Peak." I'm thinking would be a good line to use when our hair starts to grow back!
I gotta say, today has been a side effect-y day for me and my dsbaf's (dear sometime boyfriend and always friend) grandmother just had a heart attack. Like I told him, we have the whole summer to celebrate my birthday. And I meant it. (I also went for a walk with my 84 year old neighbor. It took us 2 hours to cover 10 blocks and run a handful of errands. We were quite a pair and we had a lovely time.)
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We have brownies here in honor of your birthday too Rock1 Second neulasta shot today then went to see Baby Momma with a friend who came over and helped with laundry and sweeping (woo hoo!) Pouring rain here in Seattle. I am dropping one dex in my post chemo meds...so far so good. Feeling foggy, but much better than chemo round one. Hope everyone else is doing well. Happy birthday again and happy anniversary to Julie.
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HAPPY ANNIVERSARY JULIE AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROCK!
I've made up my mind to shave on Sunday. Any tips? I have the hair clippers to get it short but do I use shaving cream????
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Roxi,
My friend just shaved it, no wet head, no shaving cream. I think on the top she went front to back. In the back, she went bottom to top. My hair was already cut short so it wasn't too big of a mess. And I've heard that duller razors/clippers can be kinder (less likely to nick) than new ones.
I didn't look at my reflection in the mirror for a couple hours (I just looked in the reflection in the window). It was a SHOCK when I did and I really hated how I looked; I focused a lot on how weird my ears looked, how weird my head looked. I just kept thinking freak-freak-freak-freak (like the sound in those horror movies.)
After 2 days, when some more hair fell out (and kind of evened things out so I looked less scruffy), when I figured out how to wear eye shadow for the first time in my life (charcoals work on a lot of skin tones; pinks on others) and -- most importantly -- when I'd had time to get used to how I looked, it was fine!
I guess what I'm suggesting is that don't let your first impression be your last impression. In my (admittedly limited experience), you will look a bit different 2 days later, in reality, and in your perception.
Bald or not, beauty comes from our eyes, our smile, and the feelings and vitality behind the eyes and the smile...not our hair. Roxi, you're (still) going to look beautiful.
PS Tip: And if you do go bald/bald, when you find people kind of looking/staring, just give 'em a little smile. They pretty much always smile back. It just catches 'em off guard.
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And...I am lovin' the birthday wishes and the brownies, sisters. I mean it. I am SOAKING IT UP. (Please give me a chance to show you guys some love, too, when your birthdays and anniversaries roll around, okay?!)
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Rock the Bald, here's another Happy Birthday wish, and some of my favorite birthday cake I made just for you:
It's sinfully delicious and fattening, but, hey, we're being chemo'd so we can eat whatever tastes good, right?
Yes, I'm all done with chemo...but not really. Not quite yet. As y'all know, the infusion is just the beginning--it's usually the easy part (unless somebody forgets to clamp the catheter off, or unless you have an allergic reaction to the Taxol or the Taxotere, etc.).
I wasn't bald-bald during my chemo, but I did just wear a baseball cap. I saw a gorgeous, bald-bald woman in the oncology waiting room next door. She was African-American, and she looked elegant in a silky blouse, long earrings, and her shaved head. OTOH, I feel like a skinhead by comparison. I did go bald-bald on the drive all the way up and back, though, and almost forgot to put my cap on when I went in a quick-stop to buy some snacks.
Rock, how is your bf's grandmother? And how is your fever? Did they put you on meds?
Y'all take care. Have a calm weekend. Some of us would like the cool weather of Colorado this weekend--it's like mid-summer here in Alabama already, and it's only the first week in June!
otter
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Is that . . . cheesecake?! My dear frigging lord. I'm definitely having some cheesecake tomorrow. And a rootbeer float on Sunday.
P's grandmother is having surgery on Monday. He is her #1 caregiver, translator, coordinator of his mom and his 4 aunts (whom his grandmother has alienated over the years). This is hard on him and he is not in a good place, kind of closed off and acting surly (translation: He's terrified.) Running back and forth to the hospital, fielding calls. I feel for him. But experience suggests that the best thing for me to do is to stand [[over here]] and take care of myself. He knows I'm here. (This sounds terrible, but I'm really glad we don't live together.)
Fever-wise: I only went up to 99.7 and then was able to sleep for two hours, and it came back down to 97.6.
Good point, too, about the actual infusion being only a piece of it. How are you feeling? And, if it's not too soon to ask, what comes next? Is it possible to see far enough down the road to imagine a -- dare I say this -- vacation or a trip?
Finally, hurray for feel good bald-bald times that make us forget about the missing hair, hat, etc. Hurray for feeling good and the promise of even better days.
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wow otter: let me have that cheescake recipe! cheesecakefactory.com? Darn, have to drive to denver for that. It will give me something to look forward to for my July BD! (3 weeks after my last chemo so my taste should be normalized again.)
Rock, when are you going for some - cheesecake? It looks so gooooooooooooooood. I did make those brownies and darned if they don't taste good to me. My family, however, will love your BD brownies!
Oh, I ordered two beaubeaus (www.4women.com), received them yesterday and now wish I have never wasted money on any thing else (wigs, turbans, skullcaps, bandanas). The other items will make nice donations to the American Cancer Society.
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Rock,
Thanks for the inspiration. I'm ready I guess to go bald just not sure how long it'll take before I'm totally comfortable. You truly understand and have such great drive, I can feel it. Your confidence just pours from your writing. Otter, you must share that recipe. I;m with Robin. Can't pass up on dessert. Heck that's why you split meals. right? Robin, I love those scarfs. I just might have to order some. Have a wondeful weekend, good night all.
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Rock,
Thanks for the inspiration. I'm ready I guess to go bald just not sure how long it'll take before I'm totally comfortable. You truly understand and have such great drive, I can feel it. Your confidence just pours from your writing. Otter, you must share that recipe. I;m with Robin. Can't pass up on dessert. Heck that's why you split meals. right? Robin, I love those scarfs. I just might have to order some. Have a wonderful weekend, good night all.
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Hi all,
Been awhile since I posted. I had my first treatment on May 28th. So far am doing pretty good except for what started out like hand foot syndrome of big toes, redness and soreness have since gone away ( lasted about 3 days ); and now have the neuropathy thing (slight not too bad ) going on in hands mostly. When I went to have blood count yesterday (which was good) onco nurse said Dr will most likely lower the next dose of taxotere. Feeling really good just waiting for hair fallout next week sometime.
Robink, glad you like the scarves and glad I mentioned that link. To me it's worth the price to wear something that I feel comfortable in. With the long tails hanging down I won't miss the feel of my long hair not being there as much.
Rock, Happy Belated Birthday form one Gemini to another. My birthday was on Tuesday the 3rd. That was the day my onc wanted to start chemo but he moved me up a week because I didn't want to associate my birthday with my first chemo treatment.
Otter, congratulations on being done with your treatments, hope you sail through recovery with minimal SE's.
Enjoy the weekend, Karin
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Had my 3 rd chemo TCH on jun 4th. Everything is all aches and pains for me on the 3rd day after. Today my port hurts, under my arm, and my breast scar is even real sensitive. Thankfully only minor nausea in the morning.Went alone for this treatment, as my wonderful daughter had to return home, after being with me for more than a month. My son did insist on picking me up though. Have to admit that there is so much more anxiety, when you are alone. Being at chemo wasn't so bad-the nurses are so nice, but having to put my head down on the pillow that night to go to sleep-I felt so anxious-just the thought of all these crazy drugs inside me. Its scary sometimes.I know I need to find some distraction, just haven't figured it out yet. Have never minded being alone, til now-now I really relish being with family. Thankfully my brother and nephew are coming over tomorrow. Dreading the next three chemos already.Its a bad day for me-probably will feel better tomorrow and be more positive. Its that nuelasta shot and the steroids.
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Hey tomatojuice,
EVERYONE has bad days and panic days and tired days. Might I suggest you set up a chemo date for your next three? People you like help pass the time. People are happy to help. Just ask. Next time someone says, "Is there anyting I can do?" Say, "Yes, would you be willing to come with me to my next chemo session? I find I am so much more relaxed when I have someone along." Your family members are doing a great job, AND you can ask for other help. You'll feel better. I promise.
Meanwhile, I am going for the initial shave this afternoon after my nap. Stop me now if you think I should leave it in longer. I await your advise. It is coming out in tufts when I pull.
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hi eddie I don't really have anyone to ask. Oh well! As far far as the shave thing. My hair started coming out in clumps 3 weeks ago.There are just some scraggy strands left. Don't know why, but I just decided to leave it. My hair has always been fine,but even so when it started coming out like that-I was a wreck. Now it seems real simple. I have a bunch of pretty scarves-throw one on-and I'm good to go. Also www.heavenly hats sent me some beautiful brand new beanies for the fall and winter.(FREE) They are great-there all kangol hats.They made me so happy-I sent them a donation, and plan on sending another. I got them yesterday. Trying them on was the best part of my day today.Sure are some wonderful people out there.
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eddie - it's your hair (for how ever long you keep it) and you need to do what you are most comfortable with. I liked it when my hair was only 1/2 inch long!
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Happy birthday, Karin!! Happy, happy birthday! In your honor, I have bought some cherries and I have washed them and put them in the fridge and around 10 pm tonight (when hopefully, the temp has dropped below 90 degrees outside) I'm going to see if my wonderful neighbor Pam is available to go outside and join me on a parkbench to eat some cherries. We will hum "Happy birthday" in your honor, or perhaps Pam will bring her kazoo.
Tomatojuice: I am so glad you posted. I also live alone and my family is very far away and generally not in a position to travel (kids, health, distance, cost). I've got a lot of friends "around" but only one or two who are in the neighborhood and only one without family commitments or mobility issues. While I'm an outgoing person in a lot of ways, my battle has been not to withdraw and retreat, and to let the "low" of Day 3 & 4 become a full-fledged slump. So I try to move around every day, go outside every day (a good wander, when I have the energy), have human contact (phone or face to face) every day. (I am a woman of simple goals.)
Having finished three, I also am trying to fight off the dread of the remaining 5 poison-filling queasiness-inducing sessions. I'm not over the hump yet -- I can't start whimpering now! (I think I'm going to see if my little sister will fly out from Alaska for a road/camping trip through Vermont toward the end. I definitely do better when I have a treat "beyond" a chemo appt to look forward to. Even if it is just a picnic in the park.)
But lean on us, okay? I know it's not the same as having someone in the room, but let us know what you're thinking.I, for one, welcome the company of someone who, like me, is on our own. So if the rest of you will pardon another outburst of whining: Is it just me, or is motivating myself a thousand times a day to FILL THE D**NED WATER BOTTLE or GIVE MYSELF THE D**N SHOT or SWALLOW THE D**ED PILLS or TAKE A D**NED SHOWER or SUBMIT THE D**N INSURANCE RECEIPT or HEAT THE D**N PIECE OF QUICHE or TAKE OUT THE D**N TRASH/RECYCLING or PICK UP THE D**N TOWEL THAT I DROPPED ON THE FLOOR a Huge Drag???!!! (Mind you, I love my independence. But sometimes, sometimes, it would be really nice to have someone around to heat the quiche for me and bring it to me on a plate. I'm just saying.)
Eddie: I second Robin K!
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Hi rockthebald I know what you mean about a little treat before chemo. Before my second chemo, my son and daughter and I went hiking in the catskills,we actually saw a bear in the woods, and had a campfire. It was so great. My daughter lives in hawai. I was planning a trip there-I'm still planning it.I do actually get out. I am an avid walker. The day after chemo-walked all around the village-bought some scarves on 8th st.Took myself out to dinner of sorts-a favorite pizza place by NYU. Its just that 3rd or 4th day.
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KristyAnn, I'll be starting my chemo on Tuesday, June 10, 2008. Is that close enough. It is a 64 week program and I'm sure not looking forward to such a long haul. May I join your group, or another if you have found one.
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Jay-Jay-- You are welcome here! But there is also a June 2008 chemo group that may better reflect where you are at in the treatment process. (Is it possible that you are getting your chemo over 3 or 4 weeks rather than "dose dense"/every 2 weeks?)
Tomatojuice: 3rd or 4th day ... just sucks. It sucked the first time, the second time, and yet here I am on the third time, caught off guard, wondering "Why do I feel kind of crappy?" A campfire. Odd as it sounds on this hot NYC day, a campfire sounds wonderful.
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everything sucks. my arm is not healed from the axillary disection-I often think of myself as a paper doll-there is something under my armpit-it feels like someone took a thumbtack and stuck it there to keep it together. My breast area often feels like its being stretched to the limit.The metal taste sucks. Just think 3 more of these treatments, then they will radiate my arm and breast. Whats wrong with me? My baby sister died from this, and I can't remember her ever complaining.I miss her so much. Having this G........desease just makes me miss her more.
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