The Brand New Respectful Presidential Campaign Thread
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Just curious.... what state does everyone live in? I am in NY
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Madalyn, I agree completely. No one raised an eyebrow when St. Newt of Gingrich served his wife divorce papers in the recovery room following a mastectomy!! All the republicans who get caught with their pants down cry "youthful indiscretion."
I hate the double standards. Either it's wrong for everyone or it's ok for everyone!!!
And, let us not forget that McCain sought the endorsement of this Rev.Hagee, then disavowed him. Surely McCain knew about this man's stand on the Catholic Church. He was pandering to the evangelicals. No peep from the repubs about that!!! I guess it's ok for them to suck up to controversial white preachers but not ok for dems to be allied with controversial black preachers.
I've started to drown my sorrow over Hillary in alcohol. I said to someone yesterday that it's really hard crying into your wine because nothing taste worse that watery, salty chardonnay!!!
Cherryl
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Blue--easy enough to verify: put in Google "Democratic candidates whose names remained on ballot in Michigan," and you will find:
four Democratic candidates are still on the Michigan ballot: U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton D-N.Y.), U.S. Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich and U.S. Sen. Mike Gravel (D-Ala.).
With respect to not voting for someone who can't win, this is one of the huge problems we have in this country, with only two viable parties. In almost, if not all, European countries there are far more than two parties (and in the extreme, Italy has 100 leftist parties--don't know how many to the right, which is taking it a bit too far). In Europe minor parties have a chance to have their say since they can help form coalitions. Our country would be far better off if we had more than two parties, and if any true independent were to run, holding my views, I would certainly vote for him or her. If I weren't getting on, I'd form a Woman's Party, but I suspect after this recent fiasco that someone will do it! Sure hope so.
Feeling somewhat better today. Life does move on, and woodwork needs to be painted, doors to be planed, etc. etc. It never stops, does it?
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Hey anneshirley... you are correct, the article I read only mentioned the "top four frontrunners" I had forgotten all about Kucinich and Gravel. Actually Kucinich made a lot more sense than any of them. I agree about the need for a third party. Unfortunately it will take a REAL groundswell movement to get it going. It has to be big right out of the chute.
Glad you're feeling better today....not to worry, we are going to five months of getting upset....time to do the laundry....
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Arizona, the early years
Dan Nowicki, Bill Muller
CHAPTER V: ARIZONA, THE EARLY YEARS
The Arizona Republic
Mar. 1, 2007 10:33 AM
In 1979, John McCain came face to face with his future.
He was in Hawaii, attending a military reception. While there, he met a young, blond former cheerleader from Phoenix named Cindy Hensley.
McCain was immediately dazzled and spent the event chatting her up.
"She was lovely, intelligent and charming, 17 years my junior but poised and confident," McCain wrote in his 2002 book, Worth the Fighting For. "I monopolized her attention the entire time, taking care to prevent anyone else from intruding on our conversation. When it came time to leave the party, I persuaded her to join me for drinks at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. By the evening's end, I was in love."
McCain recalls that both he and Cindy initially misled each other about their ages. McCain made himself a little younger, and Cindy made herself a little older. They found out their real ages when the local paper published them. McCain was 43, Cindy 25.
"So our marriage," McCain cracks, "is really based on a tissue of lies."
Early in the courtship, McCain called Cindy from Beijing, where he was traveling with a Senate Foreign Relations Committee contingent. Cindy was in the hospital recuperating from minor knee surgery. She thanked him for the lovely flowers in her room, sent from "John."
What McCain didn't tell Cindy was that he hadn't sent the flowers. They were from another John, who lived in Tucson.
"I never thanked him," Cindy notes with a grin.
After a whirlwind courtship, John asked Cindy to marry him. But there were some details to clear out of the way.
McCain needed a divorce from Carol, his wife of 14 years from whom he was separated. After McCain's dramatic homecoming from Vietnam, the couple grew apart. Their marriage began disintegrating while McCain was stationed in Jacksonville. McCain has admitted to having extramarital affairs.
"If there was one couple that deserved to make it, it was John and Carol McCain," author Robert Timberg wrote in John McCain: An American Odyssey. "They endured nearly six years of unspeakable trauma with courage and grace. In the end it was not enough. They won the war but lost the peace."
In February 1980, less than a year after he met Cindy, McCain petitioned a Florida court to dissolve his marriage to Carol, calling the union "irretrievably broken."
Bud Day, a lawyer and fellow POW, handled the divorce proceedings.
"I thought things were going fairly well, and then it just came apart," Day later recalled. "That happened to quite a few. . . . I don't fault (Carol), and I don't really fault John, either."
In his book Worth the Fighting For, McCain offers his own post-mortem on his failed marriage. He "had not shown the same determination to rebuild (his) personal life" as he had to excel in his naval career.
"Sound marriages can be hard to recover after great time and distance have separated a husband and wife. We are different people when we reunite," McCain wrote. "But my marriage's collapse was attributable to my own selfishness and immaturity more than it was to Vietnam, and I cannot escape blame by pointing a finger at the war. The blame was entirely mine."
Carol, who remains on good terms with her former husband, generally has avoided reporters interested in hearing her side of the story.
She did briefly address her divorce to Timberg: "The breakup of our marriage was not caused by my accident or Vietnam or any of those things. I don't know that it might not have happened if John had never been gone. I attribute it more to John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again than I do to anything else."
In the divorce settlement, McCain was generous with Carol, the mother of their daughter Sidney and two sons, whom McCain had adopted. Among other things, McCain gave Carol the rights to houses in Florida and Virginia and agreed to provide insurance or pay for additional treatment she was expected to require.
Except for signing the property settlement, Carol did not participate in the divorce. A court summons and other paperwork sent to her during the proceeding went unanswered.
In April 1980, the judge entered a default judgment and declared the marriage dissolved.
A month later, McCain married Cindy in Phoenix, where the couple would move. The wedding party included a couple of McCain's high-profile friends from Washington. Sen. William Cohen was the best man. Sen. Gary Hart was a groomsman.
Carol went her separate way, finding work as a personal aide to Nancy Reagan during the 1980 presidential primary campaign and later running the White House Visitors Office. -
Not that I condone the behavior but many POW's had marital problems when they returned.
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I don't think him being away for 5 years had anything to do with him being an alley cat....a cheater is a cheater....before anyone gets upset, let me also add that I can not imagine what hell he went through at the "Hanoi Hilton"...it certainly has to affect one's psyche....but I think he was a ladies man before that.. I must also agree that he was one good lookin' dude.
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That is your opinion. I have no reason to believe that he messed around before his incarceration.
As to POW's and divorce
Marital transitions among Vietnam-era repatriated prisoners of war
Catherine L. CohanThe Pennsylvania State University
Steven Cole
University of California, Los Angeles
Joanne Davila
State University of New York, Stony Brook
We examined (i) whether marital outcomes in the 20 years followingrepatriation for 98 former Vietnam War prisonersof war (POW) differed from a matched comparison group of 98 Vietnam-era Navy aviators who did not experiencecaptivity, and (ii) individual differences thatcontributed to vulnerability for divorce among the POWs and 56 of their wives. POWs had a higher divorcerate than the comparison sample, particularlyin the 2 years following repatriation. POWs were more likelyto divorce when they were younger, had shortermarriages, and had wives with lower marital satisfaction and more financial stressors. Marriage can be acasualty of war, even among those who are highfunctioning and have many personal advantages. -
Well ladies just want to make sure that every one understands where I am coming from......Blue that would be Texas.......big surprise.........ok I am really not concern about the adultery part of Bill Clinton's shenanigans......Hillary had known even before they were married that he had sexual issues and pretty much laid any woman that would allow it............the part that bothered me as a woman and as a mother was that that a man in the highest position in our country took advantage of a 21 year old intern that was working basically for him and second as a mother and also at the time as a wife when he had the nerve to say that "oral sex" wasn't really sex.........sorry but I am going to have to disagree with that premise.......there is a reason it is referred as a "job".......and now we have a whole generation that thinks its perfectly ok to engage in oral sex since it really isn't sex and then the doctors are wondering why there is a great increase in mouth and throat cancer that has been seen only in cervical cancer........the very same virus that is causing cervical cancer.......and I don't know about the rest of you guys but if your not really emotional mature enough to have sex to me oral sex is a lot more intimated and would require a hell of a bunch of emotional maturity............and where does that leave our lesbian friends......is all of their sexual relations illegitimate?...........hmmmmmmmm..........Shokk
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Of course, as usual he didn't mean what he said..........................
Mr Panderer does it again----Told you so--Chutzbah at AIPAC!!!!!---and I don't care what side of the issue you are on..... What comes out of his mouth and the actuality are two different things----Amazing!!!!!!!How can you trust him on any issue when the cameras are on.
at the AIPAC conference, Nominee Barack Obama declared that "Jerusalem must remain the undivided capital of Israel" in any future agreement between Israel and the Palestinians.
Now this is the part those little old Jewish ladies in the Florida condos that accidently voted for Buchanan will never get to hear-- Now that the speech is over and the cameras are off.
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Obama does U-turn on Jerusalem
Obama said what the Jews wanted to hear so he could garner the votes!
from the Jerusalem Post
Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem when he called for Israel’s capital to remain “undivided,” his campaign told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”
“Two principles should apply to any outcome,” which the adviser gave as: “Jerusalem remains Israel’s capital and it’s not going to be divided by barbed wire and checkpoints as it was in 1948-1967.”
He refused, however, to rule out other configurations, such as the city also serving as the capital of a Palestinian state or Palestinian sovereignty over Arab neighborhoods.
“Beyond those principles, all other aspects are for the two parties to agree at final status negotiations,” the Obama adviser said.
Many on the right of the political spectrum among America’s Jews welcomed Obama’s remarks at AIPAC, but the clarification of his position left several cold.
“The Orthodox Union is extremely disappointed in this revision of Senator Obama’s important statement about Jerusalem,” said Nathan Diament, director of public policy for the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations. He had sent out a release Wednesday applauding Obama’s Jerusalem remarks in front of AIPAC.
“In the current context, everyone understands that saying ‘Jerusalem… must remain undivided’ means that the holy city must remain unified under Israeli rule, as it has been since 1967,” Diament explained.
“If Senator Obama intended his remarks at AIPAC to be understood in this way, he said nothing that would reasonably lead to such a different interpretation.”
Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America and another Jewish activist who had originally lauded Obama’s statement, now called the candidate’s words “troubling.”
“It means he used the term inappropriately, possibly to mislead strong supporters of Israel that he supports something he doesn’t really believe,” Klein charged.
But congressman Robert Wexler, a Democrat from Florida with ties to the Jewish community and a long-time supporter of Obama, rejected the idea that the Illinois senator had been misleading with his comments.
“Everyone knows that Jerusalem is a final status issue. That is not a secret to anyone. Senator Obama says emphatically that should the Israelis and the Palestinians negotiate [an agreement], he will respect their conclusions and that he will not dictate a particular resolution.”
And some groups were pleased by the clarification on Jerusalem provided by the campaign.
“There was reaction from some of our base who were taken aback by it and thought he was undermining the peace process,” said Americans for Peace Now spokesman Ori Nir, who described his organization as “gratified” by the clarified position which seems to follow APN’s policy that sovereignty of Jerusalem could be shared in a final peace settlement.
Obama has faced questions about his support for Israel from hawkish quarters of the Jewish community, and his campaign said the speech before AIPAC, following a town hall meeting at a Florida synagogue last month, were key elements in shoring up the Jewish vote, which generally goes to the Democrats.
“We think we’ve gotten a good reaction to the speech and we’re pleased that we’ve gotten a good reaction,” said the campaign adviser of the candidate’s AIPAC address, which received multiple sustained standing ovations.
Palestinian factions though were particularly troubled by the original speech’s original language on an undivided Jerusalem.
“This statement is totally rejected,” said Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas, whom a top aide described as “disappointed.”
“The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state,” Abbas said.
The Obama campaign adviser said that whatever the international reaction, it was important for the Illinois senator to “make his positions clear.”
“Our main audience is American voters at the moment. Other people want to know where he stands and it’s important that they do know where he stands,” he said.
Speaking generally about the speech, which also stressed the importance of a secure Israel and the need to isolate Hamas, Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters: “Obama’s comments have confirmed that there will be no change in the US administration’s foreign policy on the Arab-Israeli conflict.”
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, however, called Obama’s address “moving,” adding that he was also impressed by the speeches delivered at the same conference by Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, and presumptive Republican nominee, John McCain.
Olmert spoke to all three candidates by phone Thursday as he wrapped up a three-day visit to Washington.
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Susie,
In other words, he doesn't know what the heck he's talking about, only what sound good at the moment, then it's time for the Obama word police to come out and rectify his statements. Will they all have desks with him in the Oval Office? Flip-flop, and your right, the correction will not get to the right people.
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Rosemary, I think you underestimate Obama. I'm convinced that he knows exactly what he's saying when he says it - it's just that he doesn't really mean it. He has a habit of saying whatever he thinks is the best thing to say for any particular audience, and then he has his team provide the clarifications later. He's gotten away with it so many times already (remember the little NAFTA slip-up, as an example) that's there's no reason why he won't continue to do this until enough people finally figure out his game and make a big deal out of it. With a little luck that will happen before November, but I'm not hopeful.
And people think that he has integrity? That his is a new kind of politics? You've got to be kidding.
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Well........I have a few responses..........will try to keep them in order!
Paulette...........I never told people on this thread to "move on." In fact, I believe I expressed the opposite. Can't move on until you deal with your stuff (not talking about you personally--just the general you--could be me or anybody). Can't move on from racism, until dealing with racism. Same with any issue. So, AnneShirley and I want to be removed from the "told to move on" group. Thanks.
Blue..............sunny liberal northern california in an nuclear free zone!!
Shokk..............I don't believe anyone said you (meaning you personally were responsible because you are a Republican).............I believe whoever wrote that was speaking about Starr............don't really care about his political party..........do believe he really, really enjoyed his job that day!
.............as for our lesbian friends...........better get your drink before you read any further............gay marriage.......yes, I said gay marriage.........and gay marriage will take place in sunny CA a week from this coming Monday.........and then those that are gay that get married will not be having "sexual relations that are illegitimate (as you wrote).........but I'm also a little confused as to the illegitimacy of sexual relations..........must be some pilgrim days laws that need to be removed from the books..........gay marriage............hee hee..............how many drinks did it take you to read this!! If you have lesbian friends, wouldn't you want them to get married so their sexual relations could be legitimate? And what about straight friends that aren't married? Illegitimate sexual relations there also?
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Bessie,
"Rosemary, I think you underestimate Obama. I'm convinced that he knows exactly what he's saying when he says it - "
Correct, I was giving him too much credit for just being dumb about world affairs, and not seeing the deviousness of what he's actually saying.
Hannity was just doing a number on him, as he does daily and nightly. He was also talking about the Israel flip-flop statement. He was thinking the same thing I did, he needs a 101 in world affairs, but I think like you do now, there's more to it.
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Skokk, good points all the way through...
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Grace, you missed what Shokk was trying to say ... she was saying that it was very irresponsible and damaging to teens and to lesbians feelings when he said that oral sex is not really sex. Like because they primarily engage in oral sex (since they can't do "it" the traditional way) that their sex is negated. Really, all sides of the spectrum: gays, lesbians, hetero's have oral sex as part of their sexual escapades. I think "oral sex" has the word sex in it, so wouldn't that make it sex??? LOL
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So if we all do it, why do we consider it illegitimate?? Or, why do we Americans have to be so squeamish about sex and our bodies in the first place?
The rest of the world has a much healthier attitude about sex and the nude body. We still seem to be trying to live in the sexual era of the Victorians!!
Let's face it, Bill Clinton is not someone to even remotely let any teen believe knows what real sex is! He may be irresponsible, but we don't have to educate our children to believe the same. I told my daughter that anything like that is sex. Doesn't matter if there's "penetration" or not, first to home plate or not. It's a sexual activity. He is just plain stupid and irresponsible, and doesn't realize that many of us are on to him, from the get-go! No fooling some of us. We have to be on alert, to let our children know that he is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Just don't get what is "illegitimate" about oral sex. Sorry. Guess I missed something on sexual education. I would never describe that as being anything but legitimate.
And speaking (or writing, as the case may be) about lesbians--we will be going to the courthouse on Tuesday, June 17th to witness my dh's sister and her partner obtaining their legitimate marriage license and their wedding ceremony on the beach with real government recognition, and all the rights and entitlements of marriage that my dh and I have enjoyed for the past 38 years. It's a historic day. I hope that other states will see the light, and follow suit. 'bout time, I say.
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She is not saying it's illegit ..... she is saying that Bill Clinton did everyone a disfavor by saying he didn't have sex with that woman. He had oral sex. So HE IS THE ONE saying it's not ..... not us, not shokk.
Good luck to your sister, many happy days for her and hers.
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Maybe illegitimate is the wrong word to use? I don't recall that word attached to Clinton & his I didn't have sex with that woman.
Didn't mean shokk or us--was making a statement about Americans in this country--not identifying anyone in particular--certainly not anyone on this board or Shokk in particular either. But I still hold the belief that Americans in this country do not deal with sex well--particularly in explaining it to their children--I know I experienced that as a child, as did my husband, and others. I did talk to my daughter, but it wasn't the easiest conversation I had with her. I don't know how to explain well what I am saying. I just know that when I traveled overseas, the nude body was not an issue in other cultures. And foreign movies handle the "sex" issue better than we do at times. Perhaps if let's say "some Americans" were better at dealing with this issue, we wouldn't need to have all these "parental controls," and the "sex police" editing movies before they are put on TV. It is ridiculous. I just think there is too much policing going on when it comes to anything related to sex, including the naked human body. Guess I'm just too far left liberal for this country right now.LOL I better not get any more education under my belt or the far left won't be left enough for me!! And then even Obama will be too conservative according to the media pundits who want to label everyone who votes. Sheesh! Really getting tired of this dragged out nominee stuff--going to give up watching news shows for awhile--or then again, maybe they will help me fall asleep. Hee-hee.
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Good morning political junk heads.............took a political break this weekend..........didn't even watch Hillary's speech but my mom watched it and said it was excellent..........yes Grace sex is a difficult subject especially in discussing it with your children......when each of my children turned 8 their dad and I took them to "dinner" and explained where babies come from........on the first talk there was basic sexual intercourse........six months later without their dad I told them about rape (including date rape)....no means no type of thing.....and second pedophilia.......people (usually men) that want to have relationships with children..........now maybe I should have had the talk about oral sex.......I know when the Bill Clinton scandal went down I was going to be force to but even though we were getting close to that discussion I wanted to be on my time..........also soon after all this was the lawyers in NYC that the dogs they own killed that neighbor of theirs and they were on trial for either murder or man slaughter.....can't remember now.......of course my oldest daughter read the Wall Street Journal everyday and would make me buy her the New York Times on Sundays...........so she read about the lawyer supposedly have sexual relationship with the dogs and then we had to have the bestiality talk.........she was either 11 or 12 can't remember........yes it is hard to have these discussions with your children......in today's world were dancing is pretty much sexual simulation being displayed on the dance floor and I pretty much find it to be disgusting and very ill mannered..........trying to teach you children some self respect and modesty and when you have such a public figure such as the President of your country doing neither of those things and the media saying it's no big thing which by the way they seem to have a really big problem with it now because I believe this is what has really cost Hillary the Democrat nomination is her husbands indiscretions........yes it is difficult but I want to have those discussions with my children when I am ready..........Shokk
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How come we don't have our politicians talking about the price of oil? Are their heads in the sand? Are their hands covering their ears? Are their mouths filled with a pair of socks so that they can't talk??
All I have heard is: Get ready for $5 a gallon on the cheap stuff.
We have many vehicles being sold now with the ability to use ethanol but the only station around is way up near Santa Monica so that's about an hour away and still the cost is over $3.00
You cannot tell me that they cannot invent a solar car with all the technology we have!! Why can't we have electric cars ... they used to make them.
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In Europe, gas prices are now just under $8 a gallon. They are having strikes there; perhaps it makes sense for us to have strikes and protests here. Nothing changes unless the need to change is made perfectly clear. About half the cost of gas is legitimate, if half. The other half is speculation. Apparently, in capitalism speculation is fine--good old capitalistic know-how. Of course, when fuel is costing more than it brings in, capitalism goes by the boards.
Yes, of course, we could have had more efficient fuels; we don't because it didn't benefit corporations. Keep voting Republican, or Republican Light (Democrats), and life will continue in the same vein. Think out of the box, elect an independent this year.
Obama changes his tune in every speech he makes. I had a really good laugh listening to him in North Carolina today. Now that Hillary's out of the race, he's saying the very things he was criticizing her for. Guess what, the break on the gas tax was a gimmick but his new proposal of a second rebate to pay for gas, isn't? I still haven't gotten the first rebate.
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So that's bs to me, I didn't qualify for the 1st rebate so talk of a 2nd one just is more bs. Some may say that those who don't qualify for it shouldn't cry but they are not the ones paying for stuff in California: real estate, gas, food, etc ... or being a single parent. I have even looked to re-locate but finding a different job in a new area is harder than it sounds.
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I'd vote Independant in heart beat if there was a viable candidate.
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If there were ever a time for an independent to come out of the woodwork (I'm still painting the stuff), now is the time. I'm just afraid that even if we had a viable candidate that Americans are too traditional to think out of the box and vote independent. The voters have to let both parties know they're sick of the same old lies. Obama is now trying to get to the center as quickly as he can, nullifying at least half of what he promised during the primary, if not more. I knew this would happen with him, but I thought he might take a month or so, or do it more gradually. Yet, voters are so easily led that they will accept this change without a fuss. It all really turns me off!
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Jaybird, just to help you to understand me....I've always been a republican. Was too young to vote when Kennedy ran. However, I was "brainwashed" by my repub brother who ran for the house during the Goldwater year. What a defeat...a landslide for the dems! I handed out leaflets for my brother. In return he got me a kitten.
I was a senior in high school when Kennedy was assassinated. Very, very sad day indeed. I am from Texas and felt so embarrassed...like our state was responsible. However, I was for Nixon although I couldn't vote.
I never excused Kennedy's rumored affairs, nor Bobby's, NOR Ted Kennedy who I feel is responsible for the incidence in Chappaquiddick, Mary Joe Kopechne's death. I do think in today's "world" there would have been an investigation. Something stunk!
Now, teach your dd not to judge. However, when it comes to deciding on which candidate I choose I MUST judge according to my beliefs. I am not "judging" his sin AS I SEE IT. That is up to Someone much Greater than I. I am judging his character, trustability, and ability to run this country. Do you not judge your candiate on his/her merit/s?
One more point. I'm tired of hearing Obama say that McCain will be another Bush. Couldn't be further from the truth. My goodness, does anyone remember all the true conservatives that were extremely, EXTREMELY unhappy with McCain as the Republican Choice?
I'm sorry, Jaybird, that your candidate did not win the primary. Maybe next time. And, I'll be even more sorry if McCain loses the general.
Shirley
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Well, I'm in one of those moods where I cannot finish reading posts before I post. I will go back and read.
Am I the only one who cares what the President of the United States does while running this country? I don't give a rat's ass if he's repub or dem if he's gotta cheat at least wait til he's no longer president.
As far as McCain..he wasn't running for president then. I do believe he and his ex had an amicable divorce. And, no, I don't think what Newt did to his wife was right, nor what Giuliani did, nor any of the other men in office. I believe they should hold themselves to a higher standard while serving this country. And if they can't, and if they get the hots for other babes, they should get the hell out! They can't get by with any of this BS because they're watched and the internet is here, and there's cameras everywhere. And, like Rocktobermom said, the press used to have respect for the presidents and didn't print or photograph all the dirt. It's different now. There's way too many media outlets.
I'm not perfect. But I sure as hell expect the people in high places, running our government to keep their freaking pants zipped and panties on. Have our morals gone straight to hell?
Shirley
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Roctobermom, I saw on Fox the other day that Charlotte, San Antonio, and I can't remember the other city were places to relocate. C'mon down to the East Coast. We have to buy premium gas for our car...got it from Sam's...cost $4.12. I've been out of touch with the news..been in Charlotte for four days. I guess the gas prices have again increased. Also, I heard on Fox today that Saudi Arabia was calling a meeting with OPEC.
No, the politicians aren't hiding their heads in the sand. They're doing the political thing like they've been doing for over 15 years...making politics out of OUR crisis. If we'd start drilling for oil, gas prices would go down....and, more importantly, finding other alternatives. Ethanol isn't doing it.
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Shirley, we definitely come from different places and I respect your opinion even though I think it is wrong.
To quote you " As far as McCain..he wasn't running for president then." So, what he did or didn't do before running for president doesn't count? I'm not sure I understand your comment/perspective.
I vote for those who say that they believe what I believe. I could never vote for a candidate who was anti-choice. Period. Most if not all republicans are anti-choice so I cannot vote for McCain as I didn't vote for Bush.
As for "morals" well we all have our own definition, don't we? Like, haven't men and women been 'cheating' on their spouses since the beginning of time? Why does sex always become an issue? I don't care who does who when or where or in what position, I care about who is going to make happen what I want to happen.
Since I'm only 48 I don't remember much about Kennedy's assination but I do remember watching it on tv.
Oh, and as far as gas prices go, here in suburban Chicago I paid $4.11 today for regular. Talk about being screwed and not enjoying it - the ends aren't meeting very well these days. I keep my a/c off as much as possible and only turn it on for the dogs and my daughter. I'd go without just to save some money if I could.....
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Obama is politics as usual ... liar!
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Jaybird, I glad you responded to my post. We do have quite different views, but I do respect your's. That's what's great about this country. We're free to have our views, we're free to speak about them, we're free to condemn our officials, etc. Freedom is great.
I hear you about gas prices. If I remember correctly you started working for the airlines. Is your job secure at this time. I really, really worry about our airline industry, trucking industry, food prices, etc. all because of our increased oil prices.
I do not turn off my AC. We have four cats. I'm 62 and dh is 64. It was about 98 degrees today. No breeze. We can certainly turn the air up and still be comfortable. In fact my dh just said we need more insulation in the attic. Upstairs is quite hot. I also told him we need to close the shades in the late afternoon...getting the afternoon sun makes upstairs even hotter.
At this point I trust McCain a lot more than Obama. Obama changes his stance daily. One day he says one thing, then the next another. Remember his statement about Iran being a small country and not being that much of a threat...and then he made the opposite statement days after? I could name more contradictions, but I'm sure you've heard them all.
Shirley
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- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
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- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
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- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
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- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
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- 26 Furry friends
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- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
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- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
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- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
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- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
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- 586 Alternative Medicine
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- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
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- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
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- 591 Pain
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