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  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Good afternoon Republican sisters and visitors...........took yesterday off from posting......having one of those "I hate cancer days"........my youngest middle school band director that literally changed my daughter's life is retiring because of stage IV breast cancer..........it is so sad............anyway she conducted her last concert last night.......very bittersweet.........they did the score from "Chicago"...........anyway back to politics because now I am sick of cancer today..........when I did catch the news last night and the Democrats were whining about the Republicans not passing the "new troop bill" I switched over to cspan and sure enough realized that they had screwed it up about the amnesty.....of course they hope they can get on TV and say the Republicans don't support the troops......yeah and I just saw a pig fly by my window..........and of course some people like what has been posted here will believe them............scandrals is what the Democrats in Washington are.......jeez.............did find the news about Bush speaking in Israel so funny......I heard that speech while I was in the doctor's waiting room and the first thing I thought was he was referring to Jimmy Carter.....didn't even think about Odrama............then Odrama's group got in an uproar because Obama had made a speech about talking with the leaders of "terrorist" of all places Austin, Texas........ha...............ok ladies my youngest is off to make a recording with her high school band....I am cleaning house and will be stopping back by............later gators......Shokk

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2008

    In case you missed this Obama was quick to paint McCain with this falsehood yesterday but nothing could be further than the truth.

    This was a beaut of the underhanded journalism that you can expect to see from such a biased media----What---They don't have poor Hillary to kick around any more???????  How quickly they find a new target in Soros and the medias effort to coronate their favorite.

    From Commentary:

    ---------------------

    McCain Wins One

    Jennifer Rubin - 05.16.2008 - 10:16 PM

    All day Friday we saw the Jamie Rubin accusation — that John McCain previously supported direct talks with Hamas — play out in all the major news outlets. By day’s end the McCain camp had unearthered the entire interview in question showing McCain didn’t support unconditional talks with Hamas. In particular, McCain commented on how he believed the U.S. should treat the then-newly elected Hamas government:

    I think the US should take a step back and see what they do when they form the government, see what their policies are and see the ways in which we can engage with them and if there aren’t any then there may be a hiatus but I think part of the relationship will be dictated by how Hamas acts, not how the US acts.”

    Jamie Rubin cries smear in Huffington Post –but reprints the above-quote, which doesn’t help his position at all. Indeed it bolsters McCain’s position that he has always believed that any engagement of Hamas depended on its behavior. CNN’s Lou Dobbs and Ben Smith of Politico say “whoops,” acknowledging the McCain team has made its point. What will the rest of the mainstream media do?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    Oh, girls, I forgot to tell you something.  I need to check it out, but I heard on Fox News the other day that North Carolina Community Colleges will no longer be allowing illegals go to school.  We must be the MEANEST state in the union.  Where's Michelle?  I need to tell her so Obama can come back here during the general election and slam blast us...no, Michelle would be better at that.

    Shirley

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2008

    (((Shokk))) Our posts crossed. Too many I hate Cancer days.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    Susie, I think I need to go throw up.  I'm so tired of the twisted minds.  If I could throw up everytime I hear or see crap like you posted I'd really lose lots of weight!

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Shirley......ha........don't know about NC of course down here in Texas we are just plain ass crazy and mean...........Susie I was going to ask you something and dang it I can't remember now..........it will come to me.....probably in the middle of the night.......oh and Linda I almost forgot.....I don't know if you ever got that youtube video I posted but if you go to youtube and in their search put in the name Paul Shankin.......he does all the song parodies on Rush's show..........there are several to watch......they are pretty humorous.........ok I'll be back............Shokk

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Linda I really can't seem to get my stuff together today........at youtube search for Paul Shanklin.........sorry..........Shokk

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    Shokk, I'm so sorry about your daughter's band teacher.  I imagine that was a tearful performance.  I hate cancer too!

    Shirley

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited May 2008

    Shokk, my heart goes out to your daughter's teacher. I know I am so lucky that I caught my BC early, and it was so hard to get through, I will pray she has the strength to fight. I am glad to hear they played "Chicago", great music, even if the Hollywood types decided to film it in Toronto. We in Chicago had a hard time with that one.Hollywood complains about business outsourcing and yet make movies there because it is cheaper. More hypocrisy.

     But back to the music teacher; As a former teacher I can just imagine how emotional the night must have been. I wrote a poem and gave bracelets to all the women who helped me through my treatments. Would you like me to send you one for her? The poem is not about BC. I call it "Pearls of Wisdom" and it is written as a thankyou to women for all they do for others. I make the bracelets with white pearls, and crystals and only one small pink pearl in the middle.

  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited May 2008

    Coburn a Republican Senator is blocking this Breast Cancer Bill and it infuriates me. Coburn was unmoved. "Every time this bill comes to the floor, I will object," he said.

    And he did. 

    Respectfully, but very angrily submitted, Pearl

  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited May 2008

    Oh See Research News and Studies, just down below is the whole article.

  • snowyday
    snowyday Member Posts: 1,478
    edited May 2008

    How is it possible that your system allows one Senator to block a bill this is so wring.  Shouldn't the majority rule? Last time I'll post about this, but someone explain please.

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Pearl there are several reasons why Dr. Coburn (medical doctor) is blocking the breast cancer bill...........first of all it is strictly to find out if bc is based in environmental causes and of course some believe that it may be but in the medical community most research scientist believe that bc is mostly genetic based........it is not a cancer that seems to come from environment....it does tend to run in families........second he does not like that the bill excludes research into other cancers for environmental proposes like childhood leukemia which may in fact have a bases for environmental factors............then of course there is a bunch of pork spending added to the bill that really does not help us in finding a cure for bc..........I know this is very close to all our hearts but Senator Coburn is really watching out for us..........this bc bill that is being proposed does not address a cure or to try and prevent a recurrence or mets.........Shokk

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Pearl let me say this........I believe you are Canadian and probably don't spend to much time studying America politics but when it comes to our legislators they all (Democrats and Republicans and Independents) guilty of playing the smoke and mirrors game.......I believe that it was Henry Reid that proposed this bill and what they do is come up with some issue that has touched many lives say like bc......they attach it to what they really want....in this case more environmental restrictions..........add a bunch of crap that really doesn't even have to do with bc at all.......say like studying some kind of butterfly in Hawaii.........and then when some Republican Medical Doctor from OK knows bs when he sees bs.......they come out and say see........he doesn't want to cure bc.........its just smoke and mirrors Pearl........Dr. Coburn would love to find a cure not just for bc but for all cancers but this proposed bc bill would do neither............Shokk

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    Well put Shokk! Amen!!

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Hey Linda I will pm you my address for the wisdom of pearl bracelet.....that is just so sweet........please let me pay you for it.............I have a story to tell about the band teacher.......but my daughter won't leave me alone today..........Shokk

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2008

    I gotta tell you I was just a normal middle of the road Democrat when this season began.---a moderate.   A little liberal bend on some issues-conservative on others--

    So when I started reading on the other threads repeated mantras comparing Bush to Hitler I was taken back and offended----

    I truly didn't know where this stuff was coming from--Sure mistakes were made but Hitler?   Thats when I started thinking this may not be the party I want to be associated with-----Way too far left for me.  But where was this all coming from-----Now I know.

    Quite an eyeopener for me--this new view of the world.

    Excerpt from The New Republic

    -----------------------------------George Soros lunched with some reporters on Saturday at Davos. He talked about spending $600 million on civil society projects during the 1990s, then trying to cut back to $300 million, and how this year it will be between $450 and $500 million. His new projects aim, in Floyd Norris's words, to promote a "common European foreign policy" (read: an anti-American foreign policy) and also to study the integration (or so he thinks) of Muslims in eleven European cities. He included among his dicta a little slight at Bill and Melinda Gates, who "have chosen public health, which is like apple pie." And then, after saying the United States was now recognizing the errors it made in Iraq, he added this comment, as reported by Norris in The New York Times' online "Davos Diary": "To what extent it recognizes the mistake will determine its future." Soros said Turkey and Japan were still hurt by a reluctance to admit to dark parts of their history and contrasted that reluctance to Germany's rejection of its Nazi-era past. "America needs to follow the policies it has introduced in Germany. We have to go through a certain deNazification process."

     
    No, you are not seeing things. He said de-Nazification. He is not saying, in the traditional manner of liberal alarmists, that the United States is now where Weimar Germany was. He is saying that the United States is now where Germany after Weimar was. Even for Davos, this was stupid. Actually, worse than stupid. There is a historical analysis, a moral claim, in Soros's word. He believes that the United States is now a Nazi country. Why else would we have to go through a "certain de-Nazification process"? I defy anybody to interpret the remark differently. The analogy between Bush's America and Hitler's Germany is not fleshed out, and one is left wondering how far he would take it. Is Bush like Hitler? If it is "de-Nazification" that we need, then in some sense Bush must be like Hitler. Was the invasion of Iraq like the invasion of Poland? Perhaps. The more one lingers over Soros's word, the more one's eyes pop from one's head. In the old days, the Amerika view of America was propagated by angry kids on their painful way to adulthood; now, it is propagated by the Maecenas of the Democratic Party.
     
    But nobody seems to have noticed. I did not see Soros's canard reported in other places, and on the Times' website on the day I saw it there were only four comments. Imagine the outcry if a Republican moneybags--say, Richard Mellon Scaife--had declared that Hillary Clinton is a communist or that Bill Clinton's America had been in need of a certain de-Stalinization process. But I hear no outcry from Soros's congregation. People who were repelled by Bush's rather plausible notion of the "axis of evil" seem untroubled by Soros's imputation of even worse evil to Bush. Because Bush really is a fascist, isn't he? And Cheney, too; and Donald Rumsfeld, and Antonin Scalia, and even Joe Lieberman, right? Or so I fear too many liberals now believe. There seems to be a renaissance among liberals of the view that there are no enemies to the left. I hear no Democrats expressing embarrassment, or revulsion, at Soros's comment. Whether this silence is owed to their agreement or to their greed, it is outrageous.
     
    But if Soros lives in a Nazi state, what does that make him? I still recall Karl Jaspers's devastating point, in The Question of German Guilt in 1947, that every German shares in the guilt of Hitlerism. Such guilt was not, in Jaspers's mind, an abstraction or a purely political matter. But Soros does not appear to accept any responsibility for the Nazi-like crimes he ascribes to the United States. Perhaps he thinks that, having contributed $18 million to elect John Kerry in 2004, he was an American hero, a dissident, a resistance fighter, the Grill Room's representative of the White Rose. And if, in 2008, Soros's gang comes to power, how will de-Nazification work? Whom shall we send to prison? Perhaps we should prevent everybody who voted or argued for the war from running for office. At the very least, the neocons must be brought to justice. (Maybe Ramsey Clark can represent them.)
     
    What makes Soros's remark even more twisted is that he himself experienced something of Nazism. He was 14 when the Nazis entered Budapest. On December 20, 1998, there appeared this exchange between Soros and Steve Kroft on "60 Minutes":

    Kroft: "You're a Hungarian Jew ..." Soros: "Mm-hmm."
     
    Kroft: "... who escaped the Holocaust ..."
     
    Soros: "Mm-hmm."
     
    Kroft: "... by posing as a Christian."
     
    Soros: "Right."
     
    Kroft: "And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps." Soros: "Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made."
     
    Kroft: "In what way?"
     
    Soros: "That one should think ahead. One should understand that--and anticipate events and when, when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a-- a very personal threat of evil."
     
    Kroft: "My understanding is that you went ... went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews."
     
    Soros: "Yes, that's right. Yes."
     
    Kroft: "I mean, that's--that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?"
     
    Soros: "Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't ... you don't see the connection. But it was--it created no--no problem at all."
     
    Kroft: "No feeling of guilt?"
     
    Soros: "No."
     
    Kroft: "For example, that, 'I'm Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.' None of that?"
     
    Soros: "Well, of course, ... I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was--well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in the markets--that is I weren't there--of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would--would--would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the--whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the--I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt."
     
    So this is the psychodrama that has been visited on American liberalism. We learn Soros never has nightmares. Had he been tried in a de-Nazification process for having been a young cog in the Hitlerite wheel, he would have felt that, since other people would have confiscated the same Jewish property and delivered the same deportation notices to the same doomed Jews, it was as if he hadn't done it himself. He sleeps well, while we sleep in Nazi America.
  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008

    Ok I really am not a conspiracist........I don't believe in all the 9/11 conspiracies, etc......but when it comes to George Soros I really do believe this man is trying to take over the world.......one penny at a time........there are times when I wonder if he is the anti-Christ.........I know, I know.......ya'll think I am being paranoid.........well hades I am paranoid......the man gives me the creeps .......whenever I just see a picture of him my hair all over my body strands on end........literally I can feel cold air passing through me.......jeez.......is this just me or there others out here that feel the same way?......Shokk

  • FEB
    FEB Member Posts: 552
    edited October 2008

    I don't know what is more despicable, Soros or the liberal press who ignores his shenanigans. Because he pours so much money into the democratic party, they dare not criticize him. Just as they don't criticize Obama, even when he deserves it. According to Obama, we are not allowed to say anything against his wife, his minister, or any statements he makes because they are all off limits, to any "racist" republican. If the first lady is off limits, why were they allowed to make fun of Nancy Reagan?  The double standard is maddening!!!!

     We would have never heard of Soros if it wasn't for Fox. At least someone in the press is paying attention. The guy is truly evil incarnate! As more and more Republicans lose their house seats because he floods the Dem campaigns with money, he is buying his way into the government, one seat at a time. There are a lot of people Congress who are beholding to him, so he will never be held accountable. We almost lost a local rep to the dem candidate last year, because she was able to run ads for months, lambasting the incumbent with all the money from Soros various cover special interest groups. She spent over 1 mil, to the republican's measly $200k. Funny thing, in all her ads, she never said she was a dem. And she never even lived in the district!! But because she lost her leg in Iraq, she got a lot of sympathy votes, and no one ever knew that she didn't even live in the district because there were no ads saying so, until the last 2 weeks. By then she was a household name. Fortunately, she lost, but not by much.

    So this man will continue to buy his way in with his billions, and with the protection of the press. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    I don't even know what to say.  I just want to throw up!  Where is our country going...down the toilet?   Or worse yet, in the sewer.

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited May 2008

    After all the talk about Soros, I started looking and lo and behold, the first info to come up...

    http://www.buyingofthepresident.org/index.php/stories/stealth_campaigns_part_two/?gclid=CK2_ltnEs5MCFQx2GgodbBMkog

    So interesting...

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited May 2008

    I read that article about "don't talk about my wife" from Obama, get real if she ends up being First Lady (which makes my skin crawl), does he really think no one will talk about her? Or their kids? Or her whole damn family for that matter? He better get used to it!

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited May 2008

    Michelle puts herself out there.  She's campaigning every where and on TV.  She's just as much fairgame as anyone else is.  Someone called Obama a pansy.  Was it a Governor?  I don't know why that just popped into my head.  Anyway, we know that term doesn't fit her at all.

  • shokk
    shokk Member Posts: 1,763
    edited May 2008
    Paulette........I found hot pink duct tape at Walmart........now I can support bc and keep my brains from oozing from my pores at the same time........Cool....Shokk
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    I posted the Youtube link of the repub ad in Tennessee about Michelle's own words..proud the first time....and what some of the Tennesseeans are saying why they are proud of our country.  Yep, Obama SHOULD be embarrassed.  He should keep his wife in the closet.  I can't stand the fact that's she'll be our first lady.  And for Ted Kennedy to supposedly hand Obama the "mantel" of JFK is ridiculous...he handed him Carter's mantle.

    Obama in his speech today is still saying that we should meet with Iran and other countries.  He's comparing them to Russia saying Russia was a bigger threat, but Reagan talked to them.  He doesn't understand the difference between these terrorists cells who are all over the place compared to one large country.And he must not understand that Iran is killing our troops.

    But, I may vote for him.  He said we would have healthcare as good as the government has.  And he also said something about if we had healthcare he'd give us money...can't remember.  We all know that the government cannot give us the same healthcare the government employees have.  There's not enough money. 

    I'm just about sick of this!  And McCain better wake up OR CONGRESS BETTER WAKE UP, and start drilling.  We cannot go on like this.  By drilling for oil Saudi Arabia et al will see we mean business.  And, yes, we can still look for "greener" energy.  But the corn thing ain't working.  I believe I heard that if we used all the corn, wheat, yada yada..left no feed for the animals...no food for the humans..it would only be 18%.  WOW!  I'm impressed.  Stupid AL GORE!  ARGGHHHHH!

  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited May 2008

    Paulette----I gotta laugh. You fell right into the Soros trap. You thought you were going to an unbias source of media by going to the Center of Public Integrity but you played right into Soros's hands.  You think you are going to an unbiased place

    with a name like Media Matters but it is anything but unbiased----Both

    are  intimately linked with Soros.  Thats what makes those sites so insidious.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    * “A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations…”

    The Fund for Independence in Journalism says its “primary purpose is providing legal defense and endowment support for the largest nonprofit, investigative reporting institution in the world, the Center for Public Integrity, and possibly other, similar groups.” Eight of the eleven members of the Fund’s board of directors are either on the BoD of the Center for Public Integrity, or else are on the Center’s Advisory Board. Thus these “two” organizations are actually joined at the hip.

    * “Fund for Independence in Journalism…”

    The Center is heavily funded by George Soros. It has also received funding from Bill Moyers, though some of that money might have actually been from Soros, laundered through Moyers via the Open Society Foundation.

    Other funders include the Streisand Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts (used to be conservative, but in 1987 they veered sharply to the left, and are now a dyed-in-the-wool “progressive” funder), the Los Angeles Times Foundation, and so forth. The Center is a far-left organization funded by far-left millionaires, billionaires, and trusts…

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/23/msm-tools-spread-soros-propaganda/

     

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2008

    I posted the Youtube link of the repub ad in Tennessee about Michelle's own words..proud the first time....and what some of the Tennesseans are saying why they are proud of our country.  Yep, Obama SHOULD be embarrassed.  He should keep his wife in the closet.  I can't stand the fact that's she'll be our first lady.  And for Ted Kennedy to supposedly hand Obama the "mantel" of JFK is ridiculous...he handed him Carter's mantle.

    Obama in his speech today is still saying that we should meet with Iran and other countries.  He's comparing them to Russia saying Russia was a bigger threat, but Reagan talked to them.  He doesn't understand the difference between these terrorists cells who are all over the place compared to one large country.And he must not understand that Iran is killing our troops.

    But, I may vote for him.  He said we would have health care as good as the government has.  And he also said something about if we had health care he'd give us money...can't remember.  We all know that the government cannot give us the same health care the government employees have.  There's not enough money. 

    I'm just about sick of this!  And McCain better wake up OR CONGRESS BETTER WAKE UP, and start drilling.  We cannot go on like this.  By drilling for oil Saudi Arabia et al will see we mean business.  And, yes, we can still look for "greener" energy.  But the corn thing ain't working.  I believe I heard that if we used all the corn, wheat, yada yada..left no feed for the animals...no food for the humans..it would only be 18%.  WOW!  I'm impressed.  Stupid AL GORE!  ARGGHHHHH!

    On Fox today they showed how many trucking businesses are going out of business.  WTH!  Is this going to be a political fight about the environment?  Is it about WHO'S RIGHT OR WHO'S WRONG at OUR expense.  It's trickling down fast.

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited May 2008

    Susie...from what I have been reading about Soros, he is...I don't even have a word for it, but I do believe he is dangerous. I linked that website because of "the buying of the president", it is just about what I have been saying where presidential elections and conspiracies are concerned. Ironic...

    I don't know who I will vote for or maybe I just won't vote at all, I agree with Shirley, it doesn't really matter anyway, they are all politicians. Even the healthcare issue, do I really believe whoever gets into office that we are going to get any type of universal healthcare? No, it will take years...the elections are a bunch of politicians on a power trip who will tell John Q Public whatever they think they want to hear. And nothing ever really changes, it goes in cycles just like everything else in nature!  

  • Rosemary44
    Rosemary44 Member Posts: 2,660
    edited May 2008

    "I don't know who I will vote for or maybe I just won't vote at all, I agree with Shirley, it doesn't really matter anyway, they are all politicians"

    http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/I?suffrg:1:./temp/~ammem_uwji::displayType=1:m856sd=ppmsc:m856sf=00055:@@@

  • Paulette531
    Paulette531 Member Posts: 738
    edited May 2008

    Rosemary...nothing comes up on the link...

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