Starting Chemo May 2008

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  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited May 2008

    I think your maxipad solution is really ingenious!  (And precisely the sort of resourcefulness that we need these days.)

    For what it's worth, I found my lump on 1/11/2008 and I only started chemo on May 7th (I could not find a place that would give me a mammo in < 4 weeks!!).  I completely relate to the feeling of "Can we get started already?" but it is really really important that we're healed before we start chemo because it is so hard on our immune system.

    I have popped some popcorn and am eating it in bed as a show of solidarity.Laughing Take care, and let us know what happens!

  • LisaLA
    LisaLA Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2008

    Hi All. I had a double mastectomy on 3/31 and start chemo (6 cycles of T/C/H) on 5/22 followed by a year of Herceptin.  The delay between surgery and chemo is because I went through a fertility process to freeze embryos as I'm single (41) and am afraid of the possibility of early menapause.  This is actually one of my biggest fears of this whole process.

    My port was inserted last Monday and it's been tough ever since as it significantly impacted my mobility in that arm. It's frustrating because I actually did really well in regaining my mobility after surgery (could get both arms easily up over my head) only to have it reduced from the port. Hopefully this is just temporary. Has anyone else had the same experience?  

    Anyway....just wanted to join the chat to connect with others starting chemo around now. I feel very ready to get this next phase of treatment started...and then over as as quickly as possible! 

    I wish everyone else in this chat all the best as you undergo your treatments.

    Lisa

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.  Thanks

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.  Thanks

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.  Thanks

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi, I just joined the group too. I had a double mastectomy and LD reconstruction with ALND on May 1st. Chemo will start in a couple of weeks. I had 4 drains removed on Wednesday. There is a bit of fluid building up. Does anyone have experience with this? So far the postings I have read that involve drains were from women that said no fluid build up for them.I know if it builds up too much I'll have to get it removed but I'm not sure what too much is.

  • Pepper204
    Pepper204 Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Wow, I just learned not to press the submit button again without checking. Sorry...brand new here

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited May 2008

    Welcome Karen, Pepper204 and LisaLA!  Lisa - are you actually in Los Angeles?  I am on the central coast of CA.

    Robin - Yes, I am still waiting, but I found out on Friday afternoon that I should hear something on Monday or Tuesday.  Of course, that's what they said last week about this week!!  Ha!

    Tina - I have a "chair" scheduled for the 22nd.  (I'm not sure I like the sound of that Undecided)  So that if Stanford is on time, I will not have to wait another week to start.  I'm with the rest of you, if I have to do this, let's get going already!

    I was gone for a couple of days, in part, because my oldest dd had her last gymnastics competition today.  And I just want to say she did AWESOME!  I love to watch her and her teammates (partially because I love gymnastics) and I'm so glad I wasn't feeling bad from chemo.  Now we won't have anything until September/October and I should be almost done by then - another reason to get started!!

  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2008

    Rockthebald, please pass the popcorn?

    Tina, I hope you have contacted the surgeon on call by now.  I LOVE the maxipad solution; I wish I'd known about it when I had my surgery!!  I ended up with skin grafts because of that darn paper tape.

    Christine, congratulations to your daughter!  I love to watch anyone coordinated...which would exclude me.  Glad you got your barstool...uh, chair...scheduled.  Now I have forgotten what your treatment is going to be!   I need a cheat sheet; maybe I'll take my computer to my next chemo and make one....not.

    Pepper 204:  repeat after me....  Just kidding, welcome to you no matter how many times you click on submit; sometimes the board is just SLOW.

    LisaLa, this is my second port and it is in my chest, not my arm and it's been more sore, swollen, and painful than I remember the first one being.  Hang in there; mine's finally getting better.  Although somewhere else, AlaskaDeb gently suggested that perhaps a little more fat over it is making it more touchy...

    Did I mention insomnia as a side effect of this chemo (Cisplatin/Gemzar)?

    dana

  • Roxi65229
    Roxi65229 Member Posts: 462
    edited May 2008

    Hi all, Sorry I have posted for a few days. Tuesday was my first treatment and everything seemed fine until day 4. Yesterday was the pits. I had no energy at all. I have been constipated for days and the stool softeners aren't doing the trick. I still have a good appetite but no room in my stomach for food. My in-laws are bringing over a huge fresh fruit salad to hopefully shake things up. All the meds they gave me for the first 3 days were wonderful. I do have another nausea pill which they prescribed to see if it helps. Just took one.



    My sister and daughter took me shopping for my wig. I found a very nice one that will hopefully work for the entire time. Work has been pretty non-eventful and keeps my mind off the queeziness. Tuesday is fill #2 in the expander. They put 150cc's in on Tuesday last week. I have two more of 100 each. Feels like a rock. Will this always feel this hard until I do the switch?



    Lisa, slowly you should regain your mobility. I'm four weeks post-mast and finally have most of my feeling and mobility back.



    Pepper, keep an eye on the fluid. Mine was a bit elevated but they never aspirated it. Welcome to all the new gals and I'm sure we'll talk soon.



    Roxi

  • angelsaboveus
    angelsaboveus Member Posts: 298
    edited May 2008

    hi Lisa, Pepper, KinAz glad you found this place, it's just too bad you had to. It's a great place for info and support.  

    Lisa I had only had a single mastectomy early april and then a port put in on the other side just over a week ago . It hasn't caused me too much grief and haven't lost any mobility, but your situation is different with having a double mastectomy. Where did they position it ?   I'm with you on wanting to get this part of it over with.. I just keep focused on my last treatment of chemo on Aug 28 and the party i'm gonna have after!  My second tx is may 29 which seems along way away right now!

    Pepper, I can't help you on the fluid buildup problem , but i know I have read other posting of ladies who have had this problem that might be able to help you. Hopefully they will see your ? and give you the info you need.

    KinAz I'm with you on not knowing if i want a wig for the hot summer, but i figure there will be one or two situations where a ball cap or hat won't cut it. So next week I have to go to a larger town for a rad consult and think i might go wig shopping while i still have my hair so i can match it somewhat.

    Carla sounds like you have the wig thing all figured out and are having some fun with it too, thats the only way to get through this. More power to you to you for shaving your head tomorrow, are you losing your hair

    already ? I know we had our tx on the same day...i'm just waiting for that first fistfull to come out

    Gogators I hope you are doing ok and you can get your incision fixed up before it causes you too much grief!

    Hope everyone has a sunny and relaxing Sunday..

    ..Angel hugs to everyone!Innocent

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited May 2008

    Happy Sunday ladies!

    Lisa - where did they put the port?  I had my left breast mastectomy and port insertion (on the right side of my chest) done at the same time.  The port was more uncomfortable than the mast side but over time, as the swelling decreased, so did the discomfort.  Now, its just there.  I have full range of motion.

    Roxi - So glad to hear from you!  That exhaustion is the pits.  It hit me day 3, a little less on day 4...then good from then on.  I hope the same happens to you.  I didn't experience constipation but I think (at least this is my opinion) its because part of my daily "diet" is to have 2 tsp of olive oil in my food (usually my eggbeaters in the morning).  I also eat a good amount of fiber and drink TONS of water.  All combined, I think it has helped.  Maybe you could try adding a tsp of olive oil to a yogurt or something where you won't notice its in there.  Either way, I sure hope you get some relief soon!

    Welcome Pepper - I don't have any answers for you on the fluid.  Its possible that a little fluid build up after having the drains removed is normal.  I can't imagine that they would've removed them if they weren't ready to come out.  It never hurts to call them and find out, which is probably what I would do.

    ~Adrienne

  • drcrisc
    drcrisc Member Posts: 836
    edited May 2008

    Dana - thanks and I love to watch them also because I can't do it either, never could.  As far as my "cocktail" goes, if the path report comes back the same, it will be Carboplatin/Cytoxan every 3 weeks x 4 cycles and then Taxotere on the same schedule.  I'm not sure what will happen if the path report is different...Surprised

    Roxi - hope you feel better today and no more Tongue out

    Carla - good luck with the buzz tomorrow! 

    Happy Sunday!

  • Gracie713
    Gracie713 Member Posts: 302
    edited May 2008

    I get to start chemo on May 28th, so I guess this is where I should be. I was diagnosed with DCIS and IDC HR/PR+, HER-.   I will be getting 6 cycles of FEC followed with 4 cycles of T every 3 weeks.  I will be getting Aloxi, Zofran and Emend for nausea plus have the Emend, Zofran and Phenergan to take at home after treatment.  Will also get injection of Neulasta after each treatment.  It has been a long road to get to this point. 

    Had biopsy 4/1, lumpectomy with SNB 4/16, lymph node dissection 4/30 (was so glad to get rid of the drains) and port insertion on 5/14.  I have also had a PET scan, CT scans and MUGA scans.  All surgeries went well, up to the port insertion.  Had to do it twice--1st attempt the surgeon couldn't get it where he wanted it so he tried the jugular,, plus I went into tachycardia during the procedure, Xray showed catheter to be in a smaller vein, so it was back to OR.  2nd attempt was successful in the subclavian vein.  Site is still sore, but that is to be expected.  (Also had a small puncture to left lung, that has cleared up.  My oncologist was going to start the chemo this week, but decided to wait an extra week to give me some time to heal.  

    Been trying to decide when to go get my hair cut, before of after the 1st treatment.  I will get a wig but will probably only wear it on select occasions.  Other times, I will wear a scarf or hat.  Hubby says that wearing a hat or scarf is like showing my "badge of courage" and that fighting this fight is something I should be proud to show.  He is going to shave his head and have a small pink ribbon tattoo put on the side of his head, to show support for me. 

    Don't know when I will go back to work.  I work in a nursing home so the risk of infection is very high.  My oncologist would prefer that I don't work until at least after the first few treatments.  Fortunatly I have short and long term insurance, but I already miss working.  When I do go back, it will probably be a desk job with very minimal resident contact.

    That's my story.  Now I am just waiting for the first treatment. 

  • LisaLA
    LisaLA Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2008

    Hi Dana. I'm sorry your second port is uncomfortable and thank for passing along the possible reason for my port discomfort from AlaskaDeb that it may be due to too much fat on my arm.  I'm only 105 pounds with toned arms so I was actually thinking it might be the opposite reason...not enough fat. Hmmmm.  I guess I'll ask my doctor and hope that it's not due to problems with the port insertion.  I feel like I got through the surgery just fine but this port problem is stressing me out.  On a positive note, I did my first hike since surgery today! It felt great to get outside and exercise again...both physically and emotionally.  I'm ready for chemo to start now....bring it on!

    Lisa

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited May 2008

    I pride myself on being pretty steely, but when I read about people having to have 2 re-excisions or port complications or when people like Gracie casually mention their "small puncture to the left lung" -- I am in awe.  Way to stay sane, women.  I raise my glass of V8 to you (w/ regrets that it isn't something stronger)!

    (I have my second date at our in-the-pool chemo cocktail bar on Wed @ 9am.  I better start blowing up my water wings... Will anyone be joining me?!)

  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2008

    hmmmm....

    Lisa, in your case it seems LACK OF FAT is, indeed, the culprit.  I haven't weighed 105 lbs. since 2nd grade!  (Kidding, but not much)

    Seriously, though, how has the port impeded your range of motion?  Is it pain, or a pinching feeling, or does it seem to come from the stiches/glue or the port itself?  I just read back and realized you haven't had it very long...I've had mine for 3 weeks and I think it is still swollen some, and it seems to pinch in my shoulder/collarbone area somehow, and it's still sore.  I don't remember the one in my arm being so sore, BUT that's probably my memory more than the event.  It sounds like you have actual muscles, so maybe they are resenting the space the port is taking up; I don't know.  All I have is arm flab.

    Any way, I wish I could help, but I'll just keep hoping you get back to your previous buff self!!

    dana

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited May 2008

    I'm in the pool with you, Wed @ 9:30.  Do they still make those swimming caps with the "floppy things" all over them (you know the caps I'm talking about...LOL)?  Of course, who'll be needing a swimming cap?

    Maybe I should show up to chemo with a drink umbrella in my water bottle...........

  • EyesOTex
    EyesOTex Member Posts: 194
    edited May 2008

    V8 all around, barkeep.   Got popcorn?

    Swimmin' up to my barstool Friday for my 3rd....

  • Lenny
    Lenny Member Posts: 13
    edited May 2008

    I have decided to join in on the discussions (I have been reading for a couple of weeks to help get prepared).  This has been much better than the center's education program in terms of pratical use.

    I just had my first treatment of T/C 4 days ago and am feeling really yucky right now.  Please tell me there will be some good days as well.  I have 6 treatments to go through and then 7 weeks of radiation so it will be a long summer. I have also been reading the T/C list but I wanted to talk with others that are going through this now as well. 

    God has been preparing me for this for the past several months.  Maybe after this is all over I will feel like telling others.

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited May 2008

    Welcome, Lenny!  I'm on A/C, not T/C and recognizing that everybody is different . . . I also found the first 4 days the hardest. I felt poisoned and loopy, plus I didn't have a sense of how I was going to react physically or emotionally or what would "work" to treat the side effects. But by day 5, I was fine. And by this weekend -- I feel better than I've felt in months! 

    Yes, there will be good days. There might even be some great days. I'm so happy you decided to join in. (Have you checked out the Tips for Getting through Chemotherapy thread?)

    PS My Dad is still in the hospital recovering from his near-fatal date with Ms. Dash and her potassium wiles is but doing much better. Whew. Thanks for your thoughts & prayers.

  • collector
    collector Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2008

    Lenny, I'm just a little behind you.  My first chemo is tomorrow and I'm more than a little nervous.  I will be doing 4 T/C and then about 7 weeks of radiation.  I'll be waiting to hear of any side effects you experience.  I plan to keep some kind of a log of my own experience and see how much is the same from treatment to treatment. 

  • flyrzfan
    flyrzfan Member Posts: 557
    edited May 2008

    hi all - sorry to leave u all hanging out there...i finally got my chemo scedule and start date - may 29th...so im sqeaking in on the may class. thank u all for your posts on how u r doing so far....good info -especially since i didnt get the chemo reg i expected because of my pathology and oconodx score. im doing ac 2weeks x4, taxol/herceptin  weekly x12, herceptin for 40 weeks after that along with tamoxifen x5 yrs. i was told i would get neulasta with each chemo tx - still trying to find a way out of that part so if anyone has any alternatives i can take to my onco, im listening!

    pepper - 1st on the multiple post thing....no worries, been there too.....on the fluid - here is my experience (and its a colorful one so far), if ur fluid build up becomes painful or inhibits ur normal movement, it's time to go in for a drain off. they are relatively painless (slight sting) i have had six and from looks of it will be calling tomorrow for another. ive had 2 surgeries, drains pulled when build up stopped -only to have pockets build up in other areas. some have not been bothersome and faded when i was able to move around more...some dont go on their own but in my experience, i only go for drain if they are painful - in the way - or dont go down after a week or so. check w/ur ps to ask what he is comfortable with u doing....its a sucky but not life threatening side effect that can be managed quickly and easily...

    best wishes to you all rcving tx this week....have busy week w/muga, port insert, acupuncurist and trying to make a plan to return to work before i run out of leave...

    peace to all -

    soon to be bald and walking around that way...not the first time but hoping it's the last!!!!

    bonnie

  • lilwebb
    lilwebb Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2008

    Hi Lenny,

     I was feeling "normal" and able to return to work 5 days after my 1st T/C treatment. My 1st tx was on May 9th, returned to work May 15th, worked for 6hrs and then a full day on Friday. I know it feels like hell for a few days, but you will feel better! I am getting only 3 more treatments, every three weeks. I would find out exactly why you are getting 6. Seems like you barely have enough time to recouperate in between! Good luck and god bless and know you are not alone in your fight! We will be right here helping you along.

    Take care, Kim

  • familyroks
    familyroks Member Posts: 575
    edited May 2008

    Hey Bonnie - I don't know of any alternatives to Neulasta for boosting your White Blood Count.  I don't know what your feelings are towards the Neulasta (like why specifically you don't want it) but I will say that I'm glad that I did.  I had follow up blood work 1 week after my first treatment and my wbc dropped below the normal range but not into a dangerous zone.  If I hadn't had the Neulasta, it would've been a completely different story.

    Lenny - Like Rock, I am on A/C and day 3 & 4 I was pretty wiped out.  Just plain tired...the couch was my friend.  I had my first treatment 1 1/2 weeks ago and for the last week, I have felt great.  I hope you're feeling better tomorrow and continue to feel better each day.

    Collector - Good luck tomorrow!  I hope you are able to get a good nights sleep.   Let us know how you're doing.

    ~Adrienne

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited May 2008

    Lenny, welcome to the TC club!  I'm currently on day 5 of my 3rd cycle of Taxotere/Cytoxan.  My pattern has been that I feel crummy ("chemo hangover") the day after my infusion; the following day (counted as day 3 of the cycle) is pretty good; but after that, well, it all depends.  Today I could hear the "truck" coming and I swear it ran over me and backed up and ran over me again.  It seems like days 4, 5, and 6 are often the worst with TC.

    Each chemo regimen is different.  My onco (not to brag or anything) says she thinks the immediate SE's of TC are probably worse than those with AC.  Don't try to tell that to the women getting AC and having trouble controlling their nausea and vomiting, though!  The aches and pains with Taxotere can be "distracting" (to put it mildly); add that to the pains from the Neulasta shots some of us get and that accounts for the "bad" week.

    OTOH, the 3rd week of our 3-wk cycles can be terrific!  I start feeling pretty good by around day 10, and by day 12 it's like the sun has come out and everything is normal.

    Lenny, are you getting your treatments every 3 wks, or are they dose-dense (every 2 weeks)?  If they're every 3 wks, you should be feeling much better as that 3rd wk approaches.  Some people say the effects are cumulative, but I don't know about that.  My 1st tx was a bit worse than my 2nd; so far this one is not much different from those.  I am really looking forward to finishing with all this, and getting on with my life--know what I mean?

    Hugs to all the May chemo campers.  Where is that pool-side bar y'all are going for your treatments?  I haven't found it yet! 

    otter 

  • rock
    rock Member Posts: 1,486
    edited May 2008

    Oh, Otter. It sounds like the truck is blocking your view of the pool-side bar. I'm sorry to hear that.  Gosh. We are saving you a spot when you feel like paddling over!  Have you given any thought to acupuncture? I am going for acupuncture on Tuesday, the afternoon before my Wed. chemo.  Insurance will cover it, and the acupuncturist is part of Mem Sloan Kettering.  The last A/C was not bad, but if I can reduce the "I am being poisoned by an alien force that has taken over my body" feeling, it'll be worth it.

    Neulasta. I took a Tylenol a few hours before I gave myself the Neulasta shot, and then popped them every few hours for the next two days, and tried to get out for a good walk every day.  I had zero Neulasta pain. (I'm praying this was not a fluke.)  But what's the expression (that I just made up)? You've seen one woman's chemo experience . . . you've seen one woman's chemo experience.

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