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About to start Femara.... wierd for me because I used to be a triple neg and never had to worry about this stuff before.
Anyone do OK on it?
Also, do you take it in the AM or PM.
I have heard that my hotflashes won't be as bad on Femara than they would be on Tamox. I also heard that I should take it at night in case of stomach trouble from it.
I am on Lupron and still have the ovaries. I will be getting them out in the fall.
Thanks in advance!
g
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g, I started out with Arimidex and was switched to Femara because of joint and bone pain. I'm much more comfortable on Femara and have fewer hotflashes than with Arimidex. Good luck.
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G, I started Femara a couple of months ago after 5 years on Arimidex.
I did have initially some mild upset stomach, which has pretty much resolved. Sleep is good. Hot flashes are not too intense, and for me occur 4 hours after its ingestion which is at 3 p.m. due to other meds.
I'm still troubled by some bone pain which came on year 4 of Arimidex and can't say it's resolved on Femara. Largely my back and hip with negative recent bone scan. But muscle aches seem some less and joints are hanging tight.
Here's an interesting article on how Novartis found Femara should you wish to know its background. A good researcher to follow on it in addition to your own fine doctors is Paul E. Goss at Mass General.
I can believe you're quite excited at this change of events, although suspect your nervous about these hormonals too. I hope you find them not overly bothersome. I'm glad progress is being made on your cellulitis. So sorry.
"The Early Days of Letrozole"
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=17912632#CR8 -
Thanks Riv! I see we were dx'd almost at the same time.
Tender, thank you for the info!
What meds should I not take at the same time with Femara? Maybe I should take it in the afternoon like you.
You both have eased my mind quite a bit. Thank you!
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I just pace my meds like most of you do, and for the usual reasons.
So it's just happens that after my 7 a.m., then 11 a.m. med, the third med is the Femara at 3 p.m., followed by my fourth major at 7 p.m. etc...
I don't know of any medicine not to take concomittantly with Femara, and I think you can eat with it too.
Gosh, did you ever think we'd be taking so many pharmaceuticals so early in our middle age?
I didn't.
Tender -
I split my meds into morning and evening, mostly because some of my pills are double doses. Femara is in the morning for me. Yummy with breakfast.
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I have been on femara for a couple years. Tamoxifin before that. I do have quite a bit of joint aches, hips, knees and especially hands. Seems I am prone to arthritis, which I never knew until I started these meds, go figure. Another thing to be aware of is that femara can raise your cholestral. I am on meds to lower it and do all the right stuff and it is still high. I take the femara in the morning and have no problem.
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I started Femara last October and am also on Lupron. My onc is not recommending ooph. At first I had some general stiffness in the morning and if I'd been sitting for a while, also stiffness in my hands, but not bad. All of a sudden about a month ago I realized I no longer was stiff at all, nothing (beyond my usual pre-Femara/pre-bc symptoms from arthritis , especially in my back at times). I have no other side effects from the Femara. I take all three of my medicines at night, Femara, Lexapro, Zantac, which seems to work just fine. The resolution of the stiffness was a pleasant surprise.
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THANKS SO MUCH!
That is what my onc told me that eventually the pain just disappears.
I will also keep a check on my cholesterol.
And thanks for the dosing advice...
now here is the twist for today.
I have been on Lupron for three months. We drew blood last week for my estraidol level and guess what? It is NOT in the post-meno range. I have been known for my out of control estrogen, but this is ridiculous. He still wants me to start it. So I will take my first one tonight.
Maybe THAT will kick me into full blown post meno state.
You all are great to be so informative and helpful!!
love,
g
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g,
Are you getting the monthy lupron shot or the once every three months shot?
For my first year on lupron and Femara, I used to get my estradiol levels checked every month. One month the results came back in the non-menopausal range, after coming back menopausal for many months. The onc and I decided it was probably an incorrect lab!
Anyway, I have now been doing the monthly lupron and Femara for about 3 years. I went into chemopause after chemo, but since I was stage III (9 positive lymph nodes), we decided to "assure" menopause with the lupron (by the way I am 51 now and still getting the shots). An ooph would put an end to me needing to visit the oncology office every 28 days, but I have been hesitant to go for another surgery and my onc seems to want me on lupron. For how long, he never says--could be at least 5 years. I am tempted to just stop the shots and see if my period comes back, but I am afraid I would screw up my hormones and would be angry with myself if I then recurred.
As for side effects, well unwanted weight gain is my biggest issue. Joint pain, elevated cholesterol and hypertension have also graced my body. I guess the lack of estrogen accelerates the aging process
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But let's all remember the best side effect-- NED!
I take my Femara in the morning as soon as I wake up. I don't want to forget!
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I started Femera about a month ago. Before that I was on Tamoxifen. I hated Tamoxifen. I couldn't sleep, the hot flashes were horrible and I felt awful. I was scared to start taking Femera, but I can't believe how much better I feel since I started. The hot flashes are almost gone, and I'm sleeping without any pills. I take calcium and vitamin D daily to help bone loss, but I haven't even been achy with it. I had decided after Tamoxifen that I wasn't going to do hormone therapy, but my doctor convinced me to at least try it. I'm glad I gave it a try. I think everyone is different, and you may need to try several different drugs to find the right one. Good luck!
Donna
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Hi all, I'm very new to this board. I'm am in the opposite position as you are. Have been on femara for 3 years but have had a couple of small new mets recently. My onc has suggested possibly tamoxifen. My hair stood on end because I have only ever heard bad stuff about the side effects.
Does anybody know the stats on tamoxefin side effects? I had all the typical side effect with femara, aching muscles and bones, weight gain, sore abdomen at times. Also hot flashes and night sweats, which were no big deal. A lot of my discomfort and stiffness has been from the femara rather than from the cancer. I have always just reminded myself that it was preventing new mets so I could live with it. Seems like you may find femara less toxic. I'm very nervous about tamoxifen.
I'm so pleased to find this place to talk and ask questions!!
Pat
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Rosie, I am getting the once a month Lupron. I popped out of chemopause two months after it was done. I am 45. I will be getting an ooph but not for a few months. I have too many surgeries booked and my body needs a break. Glad to hear it is working well for you!
Donna, thanks, you are very encouraging!!!
Mattie, I never was on Tamox. There is a thread somewhere here called "Bottle of Tamoxifen" that women who are on Tamox share their experiences. That should be a good place for your questions. Sorry about the new mets... I hope you find a new combo that gets rid of them for you.
hugs,
g
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Here's a good story about Femara:
Much of the recent research on Femara (letrozole) has shown that it does not increase cholesterol levels--at least, not significantly. Neither do the other AI's (Arimidex and Aromasin). Here's an example:
http://annonc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/16/5/707
The current theory is that the AI's have no net effect on total cholesterol, LDL, or HDL; and they might even decrease triglyceride levels. The increase in cholesterol that has been reported in women on AI's would have occurred anyway, if they had not been taking an AI.
Much of the original concern about AI's causing an increase in cholesterol (which is even stated here on the BCO website) was based on studies in which an AI was compared to Tamoxifen. This comparison was necessary in the early work on AI's, because the goal of those studies was to decrease BC recurrence or lengthen disease-free survival, and Tamoxifen was the "standard of care" then for ER+ tumors. Tamoxifen is known to decrease cholesterol levels; so when compared to Tamoxifen, cholesterol levels with the AI were higher.
Newer studies have looked at the efficacy of AI's compared to "placebo". Most were done on women who had completed 5 years of Tamoxifen or AI and were continued on the AI (or placebo). Once Tamoxifen is out of the picture, the effects of the AI's on blood lipids look very different: In most studies, there has been no significant effect of the AI on cholesterol levels.
The bottom line is that some of us will need to be on cholesterol-lowering drugs because of our family history, body weight or type, personal metabolism, whatever--but probably not solely because we are on an AI.
I hope this is good news. I haven't included the references to the journal articles here, but I can post or send them to anyone who is interested.
otter
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OK, I may need to back off on what I said in the previous post about Femara not causing an increase in blood lipids.
When I met with my onco today for my regular pre-chemo visit (tx #3 of Taxotere/Cytoxan), she said she wanted to discuss estrogen blockers because that's what I will be on next, when my chemo is finished. She said that, based on my menopausal status and the recent data about Tamoxifen vs. AI's in truly menopausal women, she would recommend starting me out on an AI. She also said the overall SE profile for the AI's was safer than for Tamoxifen, except for bone loss, which is preventable (or treatable). And, based on its longer track record, she said she recommended Arimidex rather than Femara or Aromasin. She also mentioned that Femara may be more likely than Arimidex to have a detrimental effect on cholesterol levels.
Sheesh... now I'm confused. But, I'm going with her recommendation. She said she really didn't think there was much difference between Femara and Arimidex, but sometimes the SE's with one might be worse than with the other, for an individual person.
otter
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hi everyone
My Mum has been on Femara now for nearly 3 months and no side effects whatsoever,she walks a lot and is quite active. Her oncologist said femara is better for pr-ve women as it lowers oestrogen a bit more than arimidex. Anyway its good to know theres no side effects yet (fingers crossed) for some.
Love SuzieandMum XXXX
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Otter, I don't know about cholesterol on Femara.... but when I was on CMF for my first cancer in 2001 my cholesterol went from 147 to 285 and I was on NO hormonal therapy at all. My doc told me Chemo can raise your cholesterol. Since I was triple neg i started the tripleneg diet of fat intake under 30 grams a day and upped my exercise, etc. I got my levels down without having to take any cholesterol meds.
So now I am on Femara. I haven't had a level drawn from my most recent go around with chemo but I will now that you mention it and I will keep an eye out. Thanks for the info you provided.
Suzie, thanks for sharing. Your mom staying so active may be the key. That is what my onc says, the more active you are the fewer se's you get from the Femara.
I take mine before I go to bed and so far it is the best sleeping pill ever invented!
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I took Femara for 18 months - the side effects that I had, joint pain in my wrists and thumbs so bad that I needed cortisone shots, went away when I went off the Femara.
I also took it at night so I could sleep through any other side effects I might have <grin>.
It kept me NED for about 17 months so I put up with the side effects.
Good luck & hugs -
Lynn
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I've been on femara for 2 years. Complete remission from metastatic cancer, NO SIDE effects from this miracle pill. I take it with water in the morning. I love this pill.
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I take it before bed because it makes me tired. At first, I had NO side effects and then after several months, I had EXTREME hot flashes 24/7. Those subsided after a few months and now I have mild hot flashes maybe a couple during the day and if I'm having them at night, they aren't waking me up. I keep the joint thing at bay with Glucosamine/Chrondroitin/MSM and Fish Oil. I did have some nerve thing going on in my hand, knee and foot but my hand and knee are better, just the side of my foot now and I'm working on it. I'm going for acupuncture shortly for it. So for me, the side effects have been a revolving door but it is so far 'doable'. Oh, I also had the upset stomach from it for a few months.....that caused me to be constantly gnawing on something trying to 'fix' it. That added a few pounds which I need to take off. Best wishes
Just saw your comment on cholesterol. Mine went way up...to 231. I used apple cider vinegar, niacin (500mg before bed) and Red Rice Yeast (just took one capsule daily). Mine came down to 159 with my 'good' cholesterol going up from 59 to 74 and my bad cholesterol going from 149 to 74.
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I started taking Letrozole three months ago. I had been taking Tamoxofin for a year, but my oncologist switched the medication after my second mastectomy.
I feel tired a lot but no other side affects...
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recently I have green experiencing body and joint pain..maybe side effects of Femara.
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