Water/Bottles = Not safe ??

Options
LUVmy2girlZ
LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
Water/Bottles = Not safe ??

Comments

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008

    I have been seeing these articles more and more lately...it makes you wonder about drinking out of plastic in general!??

    Much LUVKiss 

    Report Probes Safety of Plastic Chemical

    By MATTHEW PERRONE, AP Posted: 2008-04-15 19:49:47 Filed Under: Recalls WASHINGTON (April 15) - A chemical used to make baby bottles and other shatterproof plastic containers could be linked to a range of hormonal problems, a preliminary government report has found.

    The report was greeted by some environmental groups as confirmation of their concerns, while chemical makers latched on to the report's preliminary nature and its authors' warning against drawing overly worrisome conclusions.

    The federal National Toxicology Program said Tuesday that experiments on rats found precancerous tumors, urinary tract problems and early puberty when the animals were fed or injected with low doses of the plastics chemical bisphenol A.

    While such animal studies only provide "limited evidence" of bisphenol's developmental risks, the group's draft report stresses the possible effects on humans "cannot be dismissed." The group is made up of scientists from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration and the Institutes of Health.

    More than 90 percent of Americans are exposed to trace amounts of bisphenol, according to the CDC. The chemical leaches out of water bottles, the lining of cans and other items made with it.

    The American Chemistry Council, which represents manufacturers, said the report "affirms that there are no serious or high level concerns for adverse effects of bisphenol on human reproduction and development." Among the manufacturers of bisphenol are Dow Chemical  Co. and BASF  Group.

    The group said it supports additional research to determine whether adverse effects seen in animals "are of any significance to human health."

    Environmentalists, meanwhile, hailed the report as the first step toward reassessing a chemical they believe could contribute to cancer and other health problems.

    "We're hoping this decision will force FDA to recognize the toxicity of this chemical and make manufacturers set a safety standard that's protective of the most vulnerable populations," said Dr. Anila Jacobs of the Environmental Working Group.

    The toxicology group's findings echo those of researchers assembled by the National Institutes of Health, who last August called for more research on bisphenol in humans.

    The FDA in November said there is "no reason at this time to ban or otherwise restrict its use." The agency on Tuesday did not immediately have any comment about the new report.

    But growing concern about the chemical has pushed many consumers toward glass alternatives, and triggered investigations by state and federal lawmakers.

    Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., called on FDA Tuesday to reconsider the safety of bisphenol, saying the toxicology report's findings "fly in the face of the FDA's determination."

    Dingell, who chairs the House Energy and Commerce Committee, issued letters to seven companies that make baby formulations earlier this year, questioning whether they use bisphenol in the lining of their cans and bottles.

    The companies included Hain Celestial Group, Nestle USA and Abbott Laboratories.

    A spokeswoman for the International Formula Council, which represents baby food makers, said Tuesday "the overwhelming scientific evidence supports the safety" of bisphenol, adding that no foreign governments have restricted or banned its use.

    The National Toxicology Program will take public comments on its initial report through May. A final version will be issued this summer.

    Earlier this month state lawmakers in New Jersey passed a bill that would ban the sale of all products containing bisphenol.

    Canada's health agency is also examining the health risks of bisphenol is expected to issue its findings in coming days.
  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008

    I remember reading a thread through BC.org. regarding the recycle number found on the bottom - which to look out for and which ones to avoid....Undecided  ??

    Much LUV Kiss

    By Liz Szabo, USA TODAY Canada's proposed ban on a hormone-like chemical in baby bottles has spurred U.S. retailers and legislators to try to phase out use of the ingredient, called bisphenol A, or BPA.

    Canada's announcement Friday came just days after the National Toxicology Program, part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, found "some concern" that low levels of BPA cause changes in behavior and the brain, prostate gland, mammary gland and the age at which girls enter puberty.

    BPA-FREE:Blog keeps up-to-date list of baby products without the chemical

    Toys 'R' Us announced Monday that it will phase out bottles and other "baby feeding products" containing BPA by the end of the year. Wal-Mart last week said that it will stop selling baby bottles made with BPA by early next year.

    Nalgene, which makes plastic water bottles popular with hikers, and Playtex, which makes a variety of baby products, also say they'll stop using BPA, an ingredient in polycarbonate plastic.

    Brian Fallon, a spokesman for Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., says the senator plans to introduce legislation today to ban BPA from all baby bottles.

    The American Chemistry Council, an industry group, notes that BPA has been used safely for decades and is an important ingredient that makes plastics flexible and shatter-resistant.

    Rick Locker, an attorney for the Juvenile Products Manufacturers Association, says parents can be confident that products made with BPA are safe. Locker notes that the Food and Drug Administration has not found that BPA poses a risk to children. Neither have regulatory agencies in Japan or Europe, he says.

    "Consumers shouldn't have choices made for them by rash actions by Canada or retailers," Locker says.

    But a growing number of consumers are concerned about the chemical, which has been found in the urine of 95% of Americans tested.

    A group of 38 scientists last year issued a joint statement warning that even very low doses of BPA - which acts like the hormone estrogen - cause profound effects on laboratory animals, particularly during pregnancy and infancy. They found that BPA can permanently rewire genetic programming before birth. The research was published in Reproductive Toxicology.

    BETTER LIFE: Find wellness tips and take the pulse of health news

    Stanford University pediatrician Alan Greene, author of Raising Baby Green, encourages parents to reduce their children's exposure to BPA. "I wouldn't use it for my children," says Greene, a father of four.

    Greene says parents can avoid BPA by choosing glass bottles or shunning plastics labeled with a number 7 recycling code. Some bottles, such as BornFree, Medela and Adiri, are now marketed as BPA-free. Greene notes that BPA is found in a number of products, including the linings of formula cans. Because BPA may be less likely to leach into dry products, powdered formula could be a safer choice than liquid, he says.

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2008

    I saw this on the Today Show last week. The numbers to avoid are 3, 5 and 7 (located in side the little recycle triangle).

  • lionessdoe
    lionessdoe Member Posts: 780
    edited April 2008

    It's not just the baby bottles, it's plastic food containers, our cell phones, our computers, etc. rubbermaid.com has a page which pictures which of their products contain bisphenol and which don't.

    When I was going through chemo, and ny sense of smell was at an all time high, my whole house smelled like plastic.

    Bisphenol is added to keep hard plastics from breaking.

  • lionessdoe
    lionessdoe Member Posts: 780
    edited April 2008

    And oh yea .............. that plastic lining in canned goods? That too!

    http://www.ewg.org/node/26378

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008
     

    Bon Voyage, Bisphenol A

    Filed under: Bisphenol A 6:31 pm - April 22, 2008

    Photo: Bon Voyage, Bisphenol A

    The landscape of plastics endured a seismic shock last week--the National Toxicology Program (NTP) issued a draft report noting that bisphenol A (BPA), the major compound in polycarbonate plastic used in water bottles, baby bottles and as a liner in many canned foods may possibly affect human development or reproduction. This finding resulted from animal studies, which "show that exposure to high-dose levels of bisphenol A during pregnancy and/or lactation can reduce survival, birth weight and growth of offspring early in life, and delay the onset of puberty in males and females."

    While the dose levels tested on animals are higher than those found in people, much lower doses in animal studies also showed limited evidence for adverse health effects, including precancerous lesions, developmental and behavior changes and early onset of puberty in female rodents. The NTP report concludes that "the possibility that bisphenol A may alter human development cannot be dismissed."

    North of the border, the Canadian government has provided a more definitive response. Late last week, the ministers of health and environment issued a statement that having completed a risk asssessment of BPA, Canada would take immediate action to ensure that "families, Canadians and our environment are not exposed to a potentially harmful chemical." The Canadian government is now determining whether it will ban the importation, sale and advertising of polycarbonate baby bottles, which are made of BPA.

    For its part, the industry response has been meaningful: Both Nalgene, which produces the most popular reusable plastic water bottle in the U.S., and Playtex, which makes baby products, have announced they will stop using BPA. Wal-Mart has said it is putting an immediate halt to Canadian sales of polycarbonate baby bottles, sippy cups, pacifiers, food containers and water bottles. Toys "R" Us will stop selling PC baby bottles in Canada and the US early next year. In the U.S., Wal-Mart will stop selling PC baby bottles early next year.

    Until polycarbonate-free bottles are common on store shelves, here are resources to help you track down better products:

    Baby Bottles Buying Guide

    "The Bisphenol-A Debate: A Suspect Chemical in Plastic Bottles and Cans"

    And for more on BPA see:

    The Adventure Life with Steve Casimiro

    Greenerpenny.com

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008

    Thanks Doe & Felicia ~

    I had heard that one shouldn't warm up Tupperware in the micro..and frozen foods should be warmed in a glass dish. 

    I wonder with my coffee travel mugs !?NoI just took a look and it had a triangle of 7 ! ...from Starbucks no less! 

    Sticking to ceramic/glass!  





  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited April 2008

    Jessica5635 is a spammer!

    Please DO NOT click on his link!

    Please click on "Report this Comment" so we can get it deleted.

    Thanks,

    Ann

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited April 2008

    Hello,

    I have been loosely following the news about the plastics, but now it's really got my attention.  So, the bad numbers in the little triangles are 3, 5, and 7?  Ok, I have a slew of Tupperware and "disposable" Glad containers with the number 5 on the bottom, and they are the ones I pack our lunches in for my husband and me to reheat at our work.  Do I ditch them?  I'm really tempted to-- what are others doing?  How worried and freaked out are you all?  My impulse right now is to ditch every piece of plastic in my kitchen that I ever reheat anything in, and that's quite a lot.  Imagine how much fuller the landfills are going to be if we all throw our plastics away!!!  Lord please help our poor Earth!

    Mary Jo 

  • paige-allyson
    paige-allyson Member Posts: 781
    edited April 2008

    Glad to see this topic here. My husband has been telling me that using plastic is bad news for a while- at least a year. I avoided microwaving it and used glass as much as I could but did not avoid plastic faithfully...until now. I am trying to figure out what to use for a bike bottle other than a stainless steel thermos. I like the Sigg bottles but realized looking at them on line the other day that they are lined...Sigg is not so clear re: what with so I need to delve into this further.

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited April 2008

    Hi again- I would like to correct my post regarding the numbers in the triangles on the bottle bottoms-- the "unsafe" numbers are 3, 6, and 7 (I posted 5 as unsafe, going by a previous post).  I'm still paranoid about any plastic, whatever the number.  As my husband said, anything foreign that we put in our bodies could not be safe.

    Here is a link address to the Today Show feature about plastic bottles: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24035626/

    Mary Jo

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2008

    Reported Aleesha-

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008

    bluewillow ~

    I agree...what to do with all the plastic...recycle again I guess.  I am not heating anything in them.  I also heard if you freeze water bottles as well.  We  used to freeze a couple of water bottles all the time.  If they are pulling them off the shelves then what does that say with our plastic/Tupperware that already exists!

    Much LUV

  • LUVmy2girlZ
    LUVmy2girlZ Member Posts: 2,394
    edited April 2008
    Please disregard Allesha4636 ...reported!
  • lionessdoe
    lionessdoe Member Posts: 780
    edited April 2008

    I am concerned about the focus of mostly baby bottles, canned foods and food storage containers. I want to know what other products contain bisphenol A. What about paint? Varnishes? Clothing?

    Do we only need to be wary of ingesting the leached chemical? What about inhaling it? What about dermal absorption?

    Does any one know of a web site that contains a complete list of products that contain this chemical?

  • bluewillow
    bluewillow Member Posts: 779
    edited April 2008

    Doe,

    I too am concerned about all the things you are.  And I also wonder who do we believe and are we really getting the truth about the substances we come in contact with every day?  And what about the harmful plastics that are being taken to the recycling centers-- what will happen to them?

    Hopefully someone will provide some good website links.

    My office is located at our school bus garage and I come in contact with a variety of substances, a major one being diesel fumes from the buses.  If that's not enough to worry about, our building is located on top of the old county old landfill, with methane pipes decorating the landscape.  When it rains, we have yellow bubbly stuff coming out of the drains...  goodness knows what is buried under there.  I worry about the health of all my co-workers too.  One of our bus mechanics was stricken with leukemia about 8 years ago and can no longer work. 

    LUV, we have frozen bottles of water for many years...scary, isn't it?

    Mary Jo

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited May 2008

    Here's a viewpoint that is probably from a credible source...http://med.stanford.edu/news_releases/2008/april/feldman.html

  • Texgirl
    Texgirl Member Posts: 211
    edited May 2008
    In late March the Breast Cancer Fund released its State of the Evidence Report for 2008. Please access this for up to date info on our environmental risks. It is also available as a hard copy AND a cd each free.
  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited May 2008

    I am from Canada and all of the places I shop at pulled their"bad" containers pretty quickly. They were replaced with the safer plastic in a short time, so it is possible.

Categories