The Brand New Respectful Presidential Campaign Thread

Is there a tally site? I sure hope Obama doesn't get it.

I can't believe this:  "Following comments insisting that information on contraception be included alongside abstinence education, Obama stated, "I've got two daughters, 9 years old and 6 years old.  I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.  I don't want them punished with an STD at the age of 16."

I certainly agree that morals and values be taught, as well as contraception. I also think that since my dd and I have a close relationship and hope that it doesn't change when she is 16 (LOL! fingers crossed) that if she does get pg, that she'd tell me and we'd raise the baby or put the sweet child up for adoption.  I would never see it that my daughter was "punished" because she got pg.  I do understand there are those that would choose not to have a baby and that's THEIR choice, not mine, but I can't go into the bedrooms or dr's offices of others and force them to use my values/morals/religious views/conscience.  Just like I would not want them to tell me what I can and can't wear ...

Heard this today on the Cafferty file as to why Obama can't close the deal.

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Jack, Obama can’t close the deal because all of the older women are voting for the Clintons. Every family has a crazy aunt. I just found out that mine thinks Hillary is the best candidate. These women should stay out of politics and go play with their 11 cats.

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Guess us  crazy old geezers will have to get out our "Laser Cats" . LOL

Is that why I have cat hanging around my house all the time?  I really thought he was after the birds that play in my bushes, but he knows I support Hillary.  I should have known.

Elizabeth Edwards is our hero.  She is definately a woman of high principles.  She likes Hillary's hc plan, and she's willing to endorse her because of it, and I'm sure for other reasons also.  John is staying neutral.  I've decided he's no longer my choice for Veep. He had his chance. 

Susie, I don't have a problem with the "crazy aunt" example.  In the end, a lot of the crazy aunts end up being right!  Personally, when I look at all the college kids supporting Obama, I think back to '60s and '70s, the time when all those "crazy aunts" (and their male counterparts) were young and idealistic and thought they could change the world.  Obama is selling an old story.  Been there, done that, seen it all before.  And it didn't work.

Funny, isn't it, that the young women from the '60s and '70s grew up to become the crazy aunts?  That's what happens when you get out in the world and face the reality of supporting yourselves and a family.  You finally shake off the idealism and get some common sense. 

Hope this works........this is the kind of stuff Obama can expect in the fall...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IcnYWGSSE ...........Shok

You really gotta' wonder...

YOU DON'T NEED A WEATHERMAN TO KNOW WHICH CANDIDATE BLOWS

Wed Apr 23, 7:57 PM ET

The key problem for Hillary's campaign is that normal people reel back in horror at her association with the Clinton administration. (Which is why, as her supporter, I refer to her as simply "Hillary.")

If Hillary could run exclusively on her record since becoming a senator from New York, she'd be a relatively moderate Democrat who hates the loony left -- as we found out this week when a tape of Hillary denouncing Moveon.org surfaced. Think Joe Biden in a pantsuit.

But because of her unfortunate marriage, Hillary comes with a cast of undesirables like James Carville, Paul Begala, Terry McAuliffe, Joe Conason -- and of course Bill Clinton, along with his trusted impeachment manager Larry Flynt. Buy one, get the entire dirt-bag collection free!

No one wants those people back.

Even semi-respectable Democrats look sleazy by their association with the Clintons. No serious Democrat defended Clinton over his "presidential kneepads" incident with Monica Lewinsky. OK, that's not including adult film star Ron Jeremy, if you consider him a serious Democrat. Which I do.

That's why cable TV producers had to call in the O.J. defenders to flack for Clinton during his impeachment. Any Democrats still clinging to Hillary at this point appear to be soulless climbers desperate for jobs in the next administration.

So repellent are Bill Clinton's friends (to the extent that a sociopathic sex offender with a narcissistic disorder can actually experience friendship in the conventional sense) that B. Hussein Obama's association with a raving racist reverend and a former member of the Weather Underground hasn't caused as much damage as it should.

On one hand, Obama pals around with terrorists. On the other hand, Hillary pals around with James Carville. Advantage: Obama.

Asked why he would be friends with the likes of Weatherman Bill Ayers, Obama said: "The notion that ... me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

That's a slick answer -- even "Clintonian"! -- but the problem is, Ayers and his Weatherman wife, Bernadine Dohrn, won't stop boasting about their days as Weathermen.

It's not simply that they haven't repented. To the contrary, those were their glory days! And Ayers isn't just someone who lives in the neighborhood: He and Dohrn were there at the inception of Obama's political career, hosting a fundraiser for Obama at their home back in 1995.

Besides wanton violence, including a dozen bombings of buildings such as the Pentagon, the U.S. Capitol, historic statues and various police stations, the Weathermen's "revolutionary" activity consisted primarily of using the word "motherf-----" a lot, dropping LSD, coming up with cutesy phrases -- like "the Weather Underground" -- and competing over who could make the most offensive statements in public. (I also believe Dohrn may have set the North American record for longest stretch without bathing.)

At one rally, Dohrn famously praised the Manson family for murdering Sharon Tate and others, shouting: "Dig it. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into a victim's stomach! Wild!"

In a better country, just saying "Dig it!" in public would get you 20 years in the slammer.

Dohrn has recently tried to clarify her Manson remarks by saying it was some sort of "statement" about violence in society and, furthermore, that she said it while under sniper fire in Bosnia. Also recently, the members of the Manson family have distanced themselves from Ayers and Dohrn.

At other rallies, Dohrn said, "Bring the revolution home, kill your parents -- that's where it's at."

After a Chicago Democratic official, Richard Elrod, became paralyzed while fighting with a privileged looter during the Weathermen's "Days of Rage," Dohrn led the Weathermen in a song sung to the tune of Bob Dylan's "Lay Lady Lay":

Lay, Elrod, lay,

Lay in the street for a while

Stay, Elrod, stay

Stay in your bed for a while

You thought you could stop the Weatherman

But up-front people put you on your can,

Stay, Elrod, stay

Stay in your iron lung,

Play, Elrod, play

Play with your toes for a while

Only because of a merciful God is the author of that ditty, Ted Gold, not teaching at Northwestern or the University of Illinois now, alongside Dohrn or Ayers. That's because Gold is no longer with us, having accidentally blown himself up with a bomb intended for a dance at Fort Dix for new recruits and their dates.

While trying to assemble the bomb at an elegant Greenwich Village townhouse that belonged to one of the revolutionaries' fathers, the bungling Weathermen blew up the entire townhouse, killing Gold and two other butterfingered revolutionaries. Leave it to these nincompoops to turn their glorious Marxist revolution into an "I Love Lucy" sketch.

So in addition to being stupid and violent, the Weathermen were also incompetent terrorists. Would that Timothy McVeigh had been so inept!

If he had only said he bombed the building in Oklahoma City to protest American "imperialism," McVeigh, too, could be teaching at Northwestern University, sitting on a board with and holding fundraisers for presidential candidate B. Hussein Obama.

Paulette,

Where was the article published?  Enjoyed reading it.

I am now, and have been since the beginning a Hillary supporter.  I have watched numerous debates between Hillary and Obama and I am always left with an uneasy feeling that Obama has actually said NOTHING.  His continual refrain is "it's time for change."  Duh, we know this.  His double-speak is far more dangerous than Bill Clinton's ever was. 

If Obama ends up in the general election, it will be the first time in my life that either I will have to write in a candidate or vote Republican.   

Bren every single four years we hear it is "time for change"...............and does anything really change?  Don't care if it is Republican or Democrat or Independent.........same message...........Shokk

Unfortunately, I opened this thread before eating my breakfast, read that disgusting piece, and wonder now if I'll ever eat again. 

James Carville, absolutely love the man!  And did he ever have it right about Bill Richardson.  How he could have married that rabid right-wing wife of his is beyond me.  Almost as bad as marrying Ann Coulter. Paul Begala, not so great as Carville, but still delightful. 

Guilt by association, one of our great constutional guarantees, or at least it would appear to be when I read some of the stuff published here.  But I suppose it works to an extent. We are all susceptible even when we try our best not to be.  When I read articles like that, with the author claiming to support Hillary Clinton, I almost become an Obama supporter so as not to be associated with people like that--almost, of course is the operative word 

And may we assume that McCain suffers from a similar guilt of association in accepting the endorsement of a minister who hates Catholics, Gays, and everyone else that's different from himself.  I suppose those of us here who are actually Democrats and not wanderers from the "respectful" Republican thread, which I can only assume must be more boring than this one, should be grateful for that since I hear, from all the pundits, that no one can win without the Catholic vote. Can only hope it's true.

Hmmmm...I'm a conservative independent, leaning toward republican with a sense of humor.....where should I be posting?  LOL

I am still not wild about the 3 main choices for president.  The only thing I DO know is there is no way I am voting for Hillary.  Other than that I guess I am still not 100% sure what I am doing. 

I wish there was a candidate who whole-heartily supports the opening of ANWAR.  I would vote for that in a heartbeat.  We are sitting on a huge oil reserve that would help free us from opec and no one wants to drill for it.  Since I live in Alaska, and support responsible use of our natural resources, I wish I could find a candidate that supports that....

Deb C

And let me say this..........Obama's real problems are not even going to be his "associates" but is going to be his voting record in the IL state senate.........it does not look good..........Shokk

Deb there is absolutely no reason for us not to drill in ANWAR......oh wait........the "Environmentalist"........and reason that CA has not built an Oil Refinery in 40 years and the reason TX can't build an OR for the last 20 years and we crazy TX's counties are fighting over whom "gets" to build one not who "has" to build one...........Shokk

Bren and let me say this if Hillary is going to say she is more experienced than Obama because she was first lady for eight years (and by the way I think she has a point) then she can't pick and choose what part of her husband's presidency she chooses to embrace........she has to accept all of it or none of it............IMO...........Shokk

Anne...you are FREE to start a demoncrat thread!

Paulette,

Good thing you didn't publish the auther BEFORE you posted the article.  I would've skipped right over it.  I thought you were a Dem ... reading Anne Coulter now???  Yikes. 

Shokk ... if only the voters would focus on Obama's voting record in IL!!

BTW - Where's Cherryl??  Is it too eary for those cigars and beer (oops, I meant really fine wine)???

I can't keep up with this thread ... how am I going to go visit the other one too!  I won't be able to keep anyone straight, except Shokk and Cherryl.