The Brand New Respectful Presidential Campaign Thread

Grace,

Oh, I'll vote for the democratic candidate, no matter who that is. I would never, ever vote for a republican.

And therein lies the difference between you and me. I did vote for a democrat when I felt he was a better candidate. I came here almost 30 years ago, when Regan just got elected and in my expereince so far he was the best of the bunch.  Even my democratic friends voted for him the second time. And honestly if he were a democrat I would have voted for him as well after he got rid of inflation, "evil empire" and helped middle class find its footing again.

On the other hand if Carter were a Republican I would never have voted from him because he was simply inept. Look at him now meeting with the head of Hamas.

And honestly McCaine is pretty close to Democrats so it's almost like voting for a conservative Democrat here. Obama on the hand is even to the left of Kennedy.

And so, if you believe that about Obama, why is it you can't see that that is exactly what we have had for the past eight years--an empty suit who couldn't write a speech. What you don't seem to understand is that McCain is equated with Bush, and no matter how far he tries to pull himself away from the current president, he can't because he is a republican.



And you haven't proven anything, except that you don't realize when someone tells you they gave you a list, and have at it, you want Amy to do the work. She has told you she doesn't intend to, and to make an assumption as to why she is voting for someone is very small minded and not very open minded, as all of you have been asking her to be, and accuse her of not being.



I say we let it all just lie now. If you want to know more about Obama, or you think there is nothing to Obama, you are entitled to that opinion. And that is just what it is, an opinion. You haven't proved anything and this is not a debate. This is supposed to be a discussion. Just because you can't get Amy to do what it is that you want, that is your problem not Amy's. At least she is interested in a candidate who is young and with it, not older and out of touch with most of the Americans, as is the current president and vice-president.



You can ask your question over and over, she has given you an answer-NO. Accept that and move on!!!



I'm all for a president who can write a speech. It would be a breath of fresh air after the last 8 years.



67% of americans in this country do not approve of Bush or his Folly of War. They should be smart enough to see that to elect McCain as president would mean that the Folly of War would just continue on under another republican. People are tired of war, they are tired of the economy going to h--- in a handbasket, they are tired of paying through the nose for gas, and for jobs going overseas, and companies farming work out to companies overseas that could care less about the quality of what they produce. We currently have a commander in chief who is out of touch with America, and I for one could not tolerate another 4 years under republican tyranny. You are so right, hope is change and change is hope. That's all we have because 8 years of republicans in office has given us nothing but the continuing loss of the middle class.

I'd vote Democratic FOR SURE if Bill Clinton was running ... I don't care about Monica or any other personal issue he had. Our country was running great back then.  I'd vote for Hillary if I knew that she intended to do the same things he did.

Unfortunately for us, we won't be entering a new presidential "era" in the same situation that Bill came into.  He came into it after the strong Reagonomics era.  George Sr only inherited that good economy.  My dad says Bill's years were the result of good planning by George Sr.  I don't know the answer to that.  I was not paying ANY attention back then.

I can't vote for Obama.  He's too new, he doesn't have the experience necessary with world leaders and I have not seen anything that he does that another can't do.  

For Hillary, I see Bill as her coach and all the power he had, she can bring that all back.

And maybe I am wrong.  

What I don't like about her is her lies and the fact that she pushed Bill to lie.  This is a tough one for me to swallow because I have no clue what else she may lie about.

So, I have to look at McCain.  He's for lower taxes. He's tough on immigration. Tough on border control.  He seems to have morals.  

Grace,

I got news for you: presidents or presidential candidates DO NOT write their own speeches. I am surprised you don't know this. That's why there is a joke out there that we should elect Obama's speech writer since he is so good.

I also don't think you understand the nature of my question or perhaps more accurately my challenge here. I understand too well that my question cornered Amy as she cannot provide a satisfactory answer. At least she is politely evasive on this

My point was that not only Amy but even Obama's campaign staff cannot answer this .

I do not appreciate you telling me which question I can or can not ask on this forum. You don't like my postings, then ignore them and move on. We are all free to speak here as long as we not vicious and mean. And I am none of those as my question was in regards to Obama's accomplishments and not those of Amy's character. Considering that Amy has changed her user name to "Obama4President" and her last name to Hussein, I think she could very well represent his point of view.

But I guess you exhibit typical liberal behavior : trying to silence people wth a different point of view.

Shirley,

Huckabee used to be a preacher, so he is probably very good with speeches. Out of all candiates he was definitely the best spoken. It's actually amazing how far he came with no money and limited staff.

Grace, why do you constantly lecture people on their posts and then act out in the same manner? You may think you are above everyone else here in this discussion but you act out in the same manner as we all do.

Amy, when I address you personally, you will know that I am posting to you directly, unless your name is Grace, my question was to Grace. And I think the question is clear it does not need further clarification.

Yes, I know Huckabee used be a minister.  He's probably more IN TOUCH with people than all the other candidates. However, we knew he would never be THE candidates for the repubs.  People would be way to afraid of him.

Shirley

Amy ,

Forgive me but it sounds rather childish.

 I know what legislation  he's worked on and I'm astonished that you assume I do not. I've done my research and am more than satisfied that Obama is the best person for the job. By the same token, I wonder why in all your research you haven't done the same.

You spend so much time defending Obama here and posting positive things about him, and yet you cannot be bothered with posting the legislations he is credited with ? One does not even need Phd to see that you don't have this information, otherwise we would all be seeing this. I've done my research and could not find any Obama's bills. Since you cannot dispute this statement with any factual data, I will conclude that indeed Obama did not autor any bills while in Senate.  

I think this pretty much concludes our debate on this subject.

Amy if you really read anybodies post, you'd see that someone commented on his changing stance and someone commented on his being an empty suit.  I don't care what you think I bring to the conversation whether my comments have to do with forwarding the conversation, making it go sideways or upside down. And who made you the topic moderator?

I just watched Foxnews and Mccaine is suggesting suspending gas tax to help Americans with the cost. I just suggested this here yesterday.  I did not know his staff was reading this board

But joking aside I do think this is a really good step we can take immediately to ease the pain at the pump. I beleive the tax is about 60c or so. Let's see what White House and Congress will say about it.

Rocktobermom:  I'm actually a supporter of Obama (though I'm starting to become a little turned away of late) but still thought your comics were funny. 

Sheri:  I think the only way gas prices are going to go down is if the demand goes down.  I'm sorry it's hurting your business.  I think you're right though; it's difficult to justify a dinner out after spending over $50.00 filling my tank.

I've been following the debate about which news channel gives the most unbiased information and just realized that I don't watch ANY of them.  I get all my news on the internet from a variety of websites (including this one, lol!)  I really like all the different points of view; it's helping me become a lot more informed!

Well, Amy, if you don't read all the posts, then don't ask me to explain mine. Anyway, I won't bother explaining any of them to you since you now informed us that you don't read all the way thru.  I didn't think the cartoons would be over your PhD intellect.