Is anyone taking supplements for prevention?

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Is anyone taking supplements for prevention?
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  • MMP
    MMP Member Posts: 39
    edited December 2007

    I've been googling all day, and so far I have come up with Brocco sprouts, green tea, Vitamin D, calcium, and flaxseed--ground up.

    Is anyone taking anything else with the intent of preventing BC?

    I also posted in the complementary medicine forum.

    Thanks.

  • HollyHopes
    HollyHopes Member Posts: 497
    edited December 2007

    uh...hi!  i have been using flaxseed everyday on my cereal...who knows if it will help - all i know is that i don't want to go through this nightmare again....

  • Little-G
    Little-G Member Posts: 647
    edited January 2008
  • beenthere
    beenthere Member Posts: 16
    edited February 2008

    Indole-3-carbinol (13C)

    DIM (Di-indolyl-methane)

    AIM Garden trio and Herbal Fiberblend

  • mkl48
    mkl48 Member Posts: 350
    edited February 2008

    There do not seem to be any good studies even the D3 that really look at preventing metastatic disease or recurrence which may be different biological

    events than primary BC. There are even some studies that suggest supplements feed the tumor. Not one of the major CAM sites-like Sloan or MDA suggests any supplements are proven for BC. met prevention. It seems that MDA has backed away from curcumin for BC. EXercise for ER+ and low fat probably for both seem to have the most research based outcomes. Yes, the ER_ seemed to benefit from low fat most, but it was a close call that ER+ did not. Beth

  • Peppi1
    Peppi1 Member Posts: 54
    edited February 2008

    I have heard pomagranite juice is good. I drink it sometimes. It's supposed to kill cancer cells, but don't know how much you have to drink and over how long a period.

  • RoseDew1951
    RoseDew1951 Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2008

    I was diagnosed with LCIS in December; this week I met with a nutritionist at our Cancer Care Center regarding diet and supplements. I am not convinced I want to go on tamoxifen or evista and have put bilateral mastectomy on the back burner. I've decided to exercise more, eat healthier, and add the following to my diet (okayed by the nutritionist): Multiple vitamin daily; Calcium w/vitamin D daily; Omega 3 tablet daily; and home-ground flax seed one tsp daily for the omega and lignan benefits. I've researched this LCIS condition in and out the kazoo; talked to several doctors with differing opinions and have decided to tackle this on my own at the moment. Perhaps in 6 months or so I may try the Evista the surgeon recommended I go on, but if side effects interfere with my quality of life, the drug is history. So for now, it's a positive attitude and more veggies in my life!

  • pod1257
    pod1257 Member Posts: 262
    edited February 2008

    Indole-3-carbinol, ground flaxseed 1-2tbsps/day, coromega fish oil/2packets/day, mostly plant-based diet, except a little fish/seafood.

    I took all this for years and years, before being dxed with br. cancer.

    We have a strong family hx of hormone + breast cancer (I tested negative for the BRCA genes), so tried to do all I could to prevent it. - Sometimes I don't think it matters what you do, If there is a strong history.

    I still do all the same things, diet/supplement wise, except stopped the flaxseed, as I have read articles saying it promotes BC and other articles saying it decreases risk. - so I'm avoiding it for now.

    Julie 

  • Marian61627
    Marian61627 Member Posts: 226
    edited February 2008

    Hi all, there is a doc in Texas that had a bad reputation because the FDA was trying to put him out of business and then his patients (who were by the way get amazing results with some of the toughest cancers!) rose up and the state pulled back their complaints on him (and that is clearly stated in the Board of Medical Examiners in Texas).  Anyway he has a supplement that I am never without - it is pricey but if you read his website (as well as his data) you will see that it can possibly be another alternate supplement it called  Aminnocare and his name is Dr. Burzinski.  Don't let the negative press put you off until you read the most recent - where it has been acknoledge that the FDA and the State of Texas was trying to put him under (you know there is a business in CANCER) because his treatment at the supplement level has been shown to be helpful.

    Also, In Japan, China other Asian countries there is a mushroom supplement that is considered a chemo - it has been around for centuries and is added to the chemo as a norm.  It is Coriolus.. it must be the Coriolus that is hot water extracted and apparently it boosts the immune so that your body can fight the cancer better as well as keeping you strong.

    I use both on a daily basis - this looks expensive on the surface, however with all the things that we knock out of our diets because of fear of cancer you will be surprised that your budget is not that badly hit!!

    Best

    Deirdre

  • Nanette
    Nanette Member Posts: 10
    edited February 2008

    Found a product in the health food store called Brevail. Apparently it increases lignan concentrations and promotes orderly cellular division. they have a web site...brevail.com.  I don't know if it would make any kind of difference in the long run, but then again, it might.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008
    I was told by my oncologist to be careful with anything that mimics estrogen if you are ER+/PR+.  Flaxseed is the best dietary source for substances called lignans. Lignans are classified as phytoestrogens (plant estrogens) because they seem to mimic the action of estrogen in the body.  There is so much controversy on this subject............
  • AnnNYC
    AnnNYC Member Posts: 4,484
    edited February 2008
  • althea
    althea Member Posts: 1,595
    edited February 2008

    This post caught my attention from the main index page.  I haven't posted in this section before because I was already a bc patient when I found bc.org three+ years ago. 

    I finished rads and started tamoxifen around the same time.  Been battling fatigue ever since, and it's been over 2 years.  Now I'm in a huge learning curve regarding thyroid issues, and I've come across several holistic doctors who are touting the benefits of iodine supplements.  Apparently the medical community is deeply divided on this topic.  

    I'm still in the process of deciding whose information I believe.  Perhaps some of you here might want to take a look also.  One author in particular, Dr Derry, has written a book suggesting deficiencies in iodine is linked to breast cancer.  I'm not saying he's right or wrong, but y'all can read and make your own decisions and at least be aware of a potential alternative for prevention.  There's a lengthy thread in the alternative/complementary section about iodine.  Most of us who hang out in that section are bc veterans, but anyone on this thread is certainly welcome to join in the discussion.  

    Oh, and btw, I've been eating ground flaxseed for breakfast since last May.  Not the most exciting breakfast menu, but there are so many benefits associated with flaxseed.  I too have concerns about the phytoestrogens and my er/pr+ status.  I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.  I'm not sure where I've read it, but I found information at the time stating that plant estrogens are less potent than our own body's estrogen and I believe even er/pr+ ladies can benefit because the plant esters bind to the receptors before the real estrogen, thus negating some of the risk associated with estrogen binding with the receptors.  Hope that made sense and I hope I remembered the information correctly.  

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited February 2008

    I tried to do a Pubmed search on flaxseed a few months ago, and though I think all the studies have been done on mice (though some with human breast cancer lines), I think I could *not* find a paper that opined *against* flaxseed for bc. I've been trying to incorporate more flaxseed in my diet.



    Here is one example of a paper. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17289903?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlusDrugs1





    Here's what the Mayo clinic thought.http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/flaxseed/NS_patient-flaxseed (My apologies as I got the wrong link in my first attempt at posting).



  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited February 2008
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Thanks for the Mayo link...it was very interesting.....so I guess I should include Flax seed........

  • amberyba
    amberyba Member Posts: 608
    edited April 2008

    I'm a registered nurse and you would think i'd be head over heels to follow traditional treatment...but like many of you research has been my drive these days since diagnosis in February.

    note; I have a family history as well. sister and 1st cousin diagnosed at age 32. I have tried to do things to be proactive in discouraging breast cancer growth. using Natural progesterone cream, no birth control pills, and low alcohol use...

    but cancer struck and was found in my body at age 43, though small tumor and scoring only a 7 on the oncotype dx.

    I am using CoEnzyme Q 10 (200mg twice daily) though I will probably be instructed to quit it when I start radiation in about 10 hours from now.

    I just started Turmeric (curcumin)

    Ground Flaxseed with oatmeal for breakfast

    I appreciate all shared information of the supplements everyone is using for preventionWink

  • Marian61627
    Marian61627 Member Posts: 226
    edited April 2008

    I've tried to incorporate almost all of the above into my diet.  When I found the info on Flaxseed I really didn't know how to read it - It all seems like a crap shoot.  But I have always got in my brain that the FDA is sort of in bed with some of the pharmacutical companies and seems to want to throw the supplements out at every turn.  I also am moving carefully with dosage ect..  I was also very careful  Amber I didn't smoke, approx. 1 drink a year (I'll probably find out later that I should have been drinking Undecided)  no hormone, checked weight and excercise etc.  Even the progesterone creams have been called into question and yet my father's bc was er+pr+ but they (medical community) don't seem to know what to do with pr+.  When my father was first on chemo they put him on a progesterone mimicking pill now they won't dream of doing that..  I'm very glad to see a registered nurse adding alternative meds to her diet.. All things in moderation I know it's an old saying but it still holds true as long as we don't know how to stop this thing!

    Best!

  • Dejaboo
    Dejaboo Member Posts: 2,916
    edited April 2008

    Please Disregard the above post

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited April 2008

    DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK IN THE POST ABOVE FROM RACHEL5236.

    THIS IS SPAM!  He (yes, Rachel is a he) is a known spammer who's only objective is to make money off cancer patients by having them visit his website.  DON'T GO THERE, EVEN OUT OF CURIOSITY, since it will just encourage this scumbag to continue to spam the BC.org website. 

    And please click on REPORT THIS COMMENT in Rachel's post if the comment has not yet been deleted by the Community.

  • Marian61627
    Marian61627 Member Posts: 226
    edited April 2008

    Thanks Beesie, I saw your comments on all of the sites and so avoided Rachel..  thanks for doing the research.. yet againLaughing

    Best

    Marian

  • amberyba
    amberyba Member Posts: 608
    edited April 2008

    Marian,

    I appreciate your comment on the FDA...I've never heard it said any better...it saddens me and sometimes I know mistakes from the med profession are made in hopes of finding a better treatment or cure..and I'm grateful for all the research and knowledge base we have, even though some, like your father, have suffered ill effects because of trial and error.Frown His sufferings sadden me as well.

    by the way...my radiation oncologist ok'dSmile all my supplements even CoQ10...I'm so glad.

    best Too!Wink

  • StaceyR
    StaceyR Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2008

    I've added turmeric (curcumin) as well.  See this link for my reason why:

    http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA360804 

  • amberyba
    amberyba Member Posts: 608
    edited April 2008
  • lwimsmorris
    lwimsmorris Member Posts: 6
    edited April 2008

    Hi Ladies,



    I see an integrative oncologist who has me taking 48 supplements per day - yes 48! In any event, here's my list:



    Liver Support - grape pips or grapeseed extract

    Skin/Hair - Biotin 5000, Calendula, Demal,Wheat Embryo

    Joint Formulas - Vitamin D

    Immune Formulas - Grifon Pro Maitake-D Fraction, Imunal, Shitake, PeakImmune, Glutamine Powder

    Women's Formulas - DIM Plus

    Neuro Formula - Enada 5mg, P5P50, Vitamin B, B12

    Superfood Formula - Fiber Cleanse, Phyto Formula, Red Formula

    Probiotics - Lactal B

    Other - Avemar, fucoidan, exhilarin, destress, L-carnitine, Slow FE, Folic Acid



    I feel GREAT! Very high energy.





  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited April 2008

    I I took a lot of vitamins pre-cancer and decided that if it didn't prevent it, it may not prevent recurrence.

    II take the minimum stuff....calcium/vitamin D, alpha lipoic acid (to help lower blood sugar), and B-complex (for offset on wine drinking).

  • Marian61627
    Marian61627 Member Posts: 226
    edited April 2008

    Wallycat, I had this same feel with my father, my Mom was always putting vitimins in front of him 30 years ago!  So when he said to her "I guess the vitimins didn't help" I was really shocked but at the time agreed with him.  Over time though I have come to understand that cancer, breast cancer could have taken him much earlier.. perhaps they (supplements) do help but since we get sick anyway we don't see the benefits..??  Anyway, I do take them in hopes they are doing something I may never see, but will keep me here longer..

    Amber, it is sad to think an organization (FDA) that is suppose to protect us has been corrupted, but anything that large was bound to be influenced over time..  it is a terrible shame though!  The intent of setting it (FDA organization) up was to prevent this exact thing from occurring!

    Best

  • StaceyR
    StaceyR Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2008

    well, I don't think we can expect these vitamins to be some kind of miracle drugs.  It might be worth discussing what we're also eliminating from our diets and lifestyles. And what kind of things we're doing to strengthen our immune systems, including physical and psychological strategies.

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