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  • luckymel
    luckymel Member Posts: 643
    edited January 2008

    Morning, Ta Ta's,

    I'm resurfacing after three difficult days at work - extremely busy, had to work overtime every day, and the worst thing was that since they increased my pain meds temporarily last week, I have to fight to stay awake. I finally gave up yesterday and went back to the previous dose, as that constant ready-to-nod-off feeling is more miserable than the pain. Of course, then I realized that my knee, that I thought was ok, was really sore, and my two big toenails, which fell off during treatment, have grown back as ingrown toenails, and they hurt, too! I am going to see the rheumatologist today, maybe I'll get some helpful info. Overall, though, I'm doing well.

    Before I comment on whatever else I need to comment on, I have a really fun story to tell. Last year, the day after my first chemo treatment, I got a lady ready for surgery who was just done with treatment and was in to have her port removed. She had about an inch of hair, if that, and was so cute - a bit younger than me. I talked quite a bit with her and her husband, and we really bonded. They told me that overall, the breast cancer experience had brought as many positives into their life as negatives. I never forgot them, and wondered so many times how she was. I never saw her again, though. Well, yesterday, I called a lady back for a preop interview who was having an expander put in and a breast lift on the other side, and it was her! She said she has been wondering about me all year, too, and we just had a big old reunion! We could hardly stop talking. Anyway, the funny thing is that she has not cut any of her hair off yet. Before surgery, she had slightly wavy hair, down to her waist. Today, she has shoulder length kinky curly hair that looks EXACTLY like mine!! And here I've been hoping every day that mine would straighten out again... :( I can now see the future, and it is CURLS. Guess I'll just get used to the idea.

    Our wonderful gay next-door neighbor had a water leak in his house, so today he is loaning us his housekeeper. I was so thrilled - my dh is really a butt about that issue, and I've never had any cleaning help all through chemo and surgery, and before that through months of not being able to bear weight on my right leg at all, when I still did my own cleaning. He just doesn't want somebody else cleaning our house (of course, he doesn't exactly want to do much of that himself, either. He thinks vacuuming is all there is, and he does that.) Anyway, we had a fight about it last night, but I am taking Floyd up on his offer and I am enjoying it so much! She's a lovely woman, and I deserve this. I'm going to have to get help after my diep, someohow. Maybe the surgeon's office can help me convince him.

    Robbin, as far as I know, if you're ER/PR+ and can't take Tamoxifen, your options are limited to Zoladex or Lupron or something to shut down your ovaries altogether, or surgical removal. You can't risk living with all that estrogen. Maybe you could try the Tamoxifen again and be sure that's what you were allergic to? You do need to discuss this with your oncologist - I'm sure he or she will have a plan for you. That's what they're for.

    Cindy, hope you're not coming down with the flu. And I'm with you about not wanting to drop the chemobrain excuse yet. I still believe I have an active case of chemobrain. And if I need to play the fatigue card to get out of something gracefully, I am not above using that either.

    Viddie, can't wait to hear about your weekend, and glad you're back. We missed you. How was Meri?

    Mary, I'm imagining you lurking around spying on weddings, now, too, secret mini-cam concealed on your person somewhere, wearing beige so as to be unobtrusive. Good luck.

    Tina, today's the day your DH interviews in DC, or is it tomorrow? I'll be sending positive energy his way, both days - can't hurt. Don't overdo it taking off the wallpaper - that is a brutal job. Our house had some wallpaper when we moved in, and now it needs to be removed, and I can hardly stand to think about it.

    Joni, glad the Zoladex is underway, and the shot wasn't too bad. Hope your treatments start sooner rather than later, so you can get some relief. Did you get some pain meds, I hope?

    Skye, loved the pic of DS2 and Grendel, both of whom are adorable. I hope you've got that biopsy scheduled by now. It will probably not be as bad as you imagine, and you do need to get on with things. So please call, if you haven't heard from them. Wish I could come hold your hand.

    Melia, thinking of you and your dh - how are things going? Sending big hugs your way.

    Nancy, how about you guys? Are you doing ok?

    Rebecca, I can imagine why everyone was astounded at your recovery - you looked so gorgeous, and not at all like a cancer patient (as people imagine them to be). All eyes were probably on you as you danced and celebrated.

    Well, I've got to go to my appointment, and you've all probably had enough of me anyway. But too bad, I'll be back later.

  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2008

    Hi guys, FYI, Skye's History Channel performance is on again Feb 3 at 7:00 PM EST.

    It was the funniest thing. A student in my class was whining about the book we are reading. I asked what he'd like to read about and he said, "Well there's this show called Monster Quest that I watch and the other night, there was this thing about werewolves. If I could read about that stuff, I'd pay more attention." 

    Okay, so we looked it up and you guessed it, It was Skye's show!  You have a lot of fans, Skye!  I told him I knew you and he was so impressed. I think I am his favorite teacher nowLaughing!

    Amera

  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited January 2008

    I had a rare severe body rash over 50% of my body.  Thank God it wasn't on my face.

    I think they are going to have me try it again.  If I brake out again, then I just can't take it.

    I can't believe there is nothing else for pre-menopausal women.

    I am estrogen and progestrogen postive and flowing with it right now.  This period I am having is like a years worth in one shot...Yell.  I am definaltley flowing with estrogen right now and feel I NEED TO TAKE SOMETHING for my ER+ and PR+.

    aaaahhhhhhh 

  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited January 2008

    Hi all,

    Mel,

    Good for you! You deserve some help, especially with your sore knee. Definitely push for help after the diep also. I hope your knee gets better soon. I am so glad you had a great reunion with your former patient. We all are part of a club now.



    I can't believe how much information I have learned from all of you. Tina, I didn't know that ovary removal could affect the heart, especially for women over 50. I googled it and found tons of supporting information, I also learned that ovary removal could also cause hip fractures.

    And my oncologist pushed for me to have my ovaries removed- I am over 50, given hercepton and Adriamycin, and as a result have a low muga score, and I have osteoporosis. What was she thinking? I am so glad I did not listen to her. I am definitely changing oncs right after my hercepton ends, if I continue my hercepton. I have to retake the muga scan in 6 weeks to see if my score improves.

    I also never would have known about Diep surgery if it were not for Mel, Lynn and Jan. What would I do without all of you?



    Love, Viddie









  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited February 2008

    robbin hope you get your allergies worked out , I had an allergic reaction to my chemo last year the FEC and the onc put me on high dose steriods to calm the "hives" I was covered about a week after my treatment itched like heck , it worked , kept me hoppin for a few days as I had to take 5 a day . The price I had to pay I guess but it I made it . Do not know if it would apply to you or not .

    Joni thinkin of you in the wild west and cold , trusting you get some relief with rads . We are watchin the weather here too , not so much the cold but the big bruising day storms we get when the snow dumps in and out in a day . Caya hold on to your hat  tomorrow !

    Skye : I do not know if we get your show here but will keep tabs on the telly . Grendel is cute man and your ds looks about the same age as mine he is going to be 30 this year YIKES its making me feel old , but its great to see them grow up into nice fine young men !

    I am still waiting for my genetic tests to come in sometime in March / April . No rush for me I will make a decision at that time .

    Hey Lynne watchin the Superbowl this weekend ? ! Must say I will root for the Pats ! Good thing they are playing in Arizona and not up here eh !

  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited February 2008

    oh ya speaking about getting "IT" back in your other boob and about bc and colon cancer being related . I do so believe it as I am proof positive of that as I had both . They do not take your colon right out I had a foot removed and it was stage 2 . Not spread to my lymph nodes . Just watch your poops gals and if they are funky let the doc know . If they catch it soon enough surgery works .

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    Mel, you've been bizzzzzzzzy!  Go for that house cleaner.  You deserve it.  I have one come every two weeks.  I call that the DH's "turn".  I hate to say it, but he really does NADA around here.  Not exaggerating one bit.  I do it all, down to taking the trash in/out.  He's been better since my heart stuff, but...  This house is too damn big for me to deal with.  It's 3200 s.f. and a finished basement.  Next house is going to be a major downsize.  I am so over it.  All I do is pick toys/clothes/crap up and I can't ever get to the real cleaning.  Mary, my awesome cleaner, was here today and I feel like a million bucks.  I call her my "therapy".  Honestly, I feel so good after she's here. 

    Viddie, my onc. didn't tell me about the ovary/heart link but he very much stressed the hip fracture stuff.  His area of research at OSU is side effects and he said he feels dealing w/a hip fracture when you're older is worse than breast cancer.  Found that hard to believe, but what do I know.  I totally respect this guy.  He is a brain.  A Harvard guy.  And Viddie, I hear you on learning so much from everyone here.  I wish to God I knew about DIEP before I got TRAM.  Although, from what I've heard from you all, it seems just as hard.  I know they say it's easier because they aren't cutting your "six pack muscle", but...  sounds eerily similar from all of you who have done it.

    Skye, last night I saw Monsterquest on the scrolling TV Guide and got so excited...  until I realized it wasn't your episode.  Looking forward to 2/3.  Thanks for the reminder Amera.

    Good girl, Sharon, rooting for the Pats!  Also, good advice to Robbin about asking if steroids will cure the rash.  That tamoxifen is so important for her.  Steroids seem to be a cureall for just about everything, but you're right...they keep you flying for a few days.  This last time I was on them after the heart stuff, I tolerated them much better than I did while on chemo.  Must be getting used to all the poison!  :)

    Started my cardiac rehab today.  Basically, I just treadmilled and they kept upping the incline.  It was hard at the end but I now know my limits are much higher than I would have realized.  I was totally out of breath at the end.  They monitored my heart (EKG) the entire time and I reached my target zone, not a danger zone.  It's nice to know what I can/cannot do.  It was like having a personal trainer...they did the body fat caliper.  Still awaiting those results.  Today I was 132 and I'm 5'4".  Let's see if I shed any lbs. by the end...  we'll see.  Really, if I'm just more toned I'm happy.  I did learn today that exercise increases your ejection fraction.  Here I was thinking it'd kill me.

    Re-read my post and realize I sound like a major b*tch about the DH.  In his favor, he's always been an excellent provider, given me anything I've wanted (luckily I'm a Target girl save the occasional pair of designer sunglasses) and I've been very fortunate to be able to stay home with my kids.

  • luckymel
    luckymel Member Posts: 643
    edited February 2008

    Well, today a miracle happened:  DH came home at lunch, while the cleaning lady was still here, and said, "I've been thinking that after your surgery we should have Rosa clean for us every week or two, because you're not going to be able to.  Maybe we can see if she has some time, and let her get started now."  I cannot believe it.  He will see he has a much happier wife and like it.  I must admit to getting cranky and resentful at times, because he doesn't do his share, and I mostly keep it inside.  Still, it does take away from our happiness, and I hate that.  I alternate blaming him and blaming myself (for not being able to do it all) and nobody wins.  Anyway, I'm smiling tonight. 

    I agree with everyone about learning so much from each other.  That is one of the two very important functions of a forum like this (the other being, of course, the friendship and support).  We all learn different things, and there is no one here who has not contributed in some way to my knowledge base.   Thanks, everybody.  It really is important.

    Tina, sounds like you did great at rehab - you should be proud.  And you didn't sound like a b*tch, either.  We all feel like that sometimes - here is where you vent, so don't apologize.

    Sharon, it's good to hear from you - stay warm up there.   I had forgotten you had an allergic reaction to your chemo.  I guess I was all wrapped up in my own issues.  I should probably go back to the beginning and re-read some of that stuff. 

    Robbin, please let us know if and when you start back up on the tamoxifen, so we can all send positive thoughts your way.  I certainly hope it goes better this time, but if not, you'll just do the next thing.  Like I said, I'm sure they have a contingency plan.

    Amera, I love that you impressed your student by knowing Skye - that's so cool.  Of course, we all think she's something special for so many reasons...we forget that for some, just being an expert for Monsterquest is the ultimate!

    Jan, wondering how you're doing today - hoping you'll feel up to talking soon.  Lynn, how are you doing, being back at work?

    Oh, no...I just realized this is Thursday and I forgot chat.  :(  Oh well, next week...there's always next week.  Hugs to everybody.

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    Oh Robbin that really stinks!  I also do not think that there are any other  treatments for Premenopausal women.  I have a feeling that your onc will probably want to try the Tamoxifen again, but after that, the alternatives become ovarian shutdown or removal so you can take an AI.  As far as the heavy period goes…when my cycles started up again, that first period was sooooooo heavy I thought I was going to die!  I actually called my GYN, and went in to the office to make sure that I was ok, it was so scary.  He actually gave me a medicine called Megace to slow the bleeding.  Hang in there and keep us posted.

    Viddie, I think that it is so scary that today’s medical practitioners have such a narrow view of medicine.  In many cases I think they treat the disease, not the whole patient.  I think care would be much improved if there were a more holistic component.  We are indeed lucky to have this resource so we can provide the holistic component to each other!  Hoping that your MUGA comes up for you…..

    Mel second that hallelujah on your new cleaning lady.  CONGRATS!!!!  I guess men are not always as dense as they like us to think they are.  Your DH is a loving man, and he deserves a BIG smooch!

    Tina, I think it is so funny that your DH does not do anything…and the worst part is that men “like that” often do not even realize just how much work it really is to stay  home and take care of a house!  Mine has always been pretty sensitive, and he helps a bit (but not as much as he thinks he does), but it took me getting sick for him to really understand just how much I do on a “regular” day…and to call it “just staying home” is ridiculous!  I hear you on the walking around and picking up stuff….that is my LIFE!  Honestly, though I do not think the size of your house matters when it comes to that…my house is only about 1300 sq feet, and I still spend so much time picking stuff up off the floor and doing general tidy work that I very rarely have the time or energy left to truly clean things. We have a terrible infestation of dust bunnies, and I think we have an auxiliary toy box under the couch.  In fact, when Owen is a bit bored during the day I sometimes send him spelunking to see if he can find anything interesting under there.  The exploratory stage is usually good for at least 20 minutes of entertainment, followed by a happy hour or more playing with his booty (depending on what he finds down there)

    Picture this:  Owen is changing into his PJs in the middle of the living room.  Clothing is flying through the air, and coating the floor in an even layer of dirty clothes.  He is very distracted during the whole process by Hannah Montana on the TV, so as a result when I finally get it through his fog that he must pick up his clothes, he picks everything up EXCEPT for his dirty underwear. 

    EEEEWWWWWWW

    So DH points it out to him and suggests that it might be a good idea to pick up his stinky, dirty underwear.  Owen proceeds to both deny owenership of the undergarments in question AND deny that they are dirty or stinky in any fashion whatsoever.  DH smiles sweetly and tells Owen that if they are not dirty, then he should not mind doing some pushups with the offending garment under his nose.  Owen runs SCREAMING from the room, followed by our laughter.  We thought the joke was over, but Owen disagreed, and he came running BACK into the room, laughing maniacally with his face almost totally obscured by the underwear that he had jammed on his head.  He ran right up to DH, dropped, and gave him 20.  LOL

    Hey Skye!!! Where are you?

    Jan and Joni I hope you guys are feeling well.  Thinking of you Melia…

    Hugs to the rest of my beloved sisters!

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    LOL on Owen denying ownership of the underwear!  Kids that age just crack me up when they totally fib like that.  Jaclyn can keep a much straighter face than Paul ever could.

    Wooohoooo Mel on the DH warming up to Rosa!

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    Oy Rebecca I am ROTFL with your latest Owen story - I hope you are keeping track of all these gems so you can tell them at his Bar Mitzvah or wedding....

    Tina glad you did so well at rehab- You will be fine, you will build up your stamina.

    And yes Mel, glad the DH is warming up to Rosa - I also have a lady who has been coming to me for every 2 weeks for 10 years- I could not live without Florette.  People think when you work out of the house, you're not really doing much... yeah right tell me that when I have 400 pages worth of shipping documents to decipher and code into my computer system for the warehouse to distribute the shipments.  Even my bachelor brother has a lady come in once a month to clean his condo -

    One more thing about the DH's and their lack of helping with the cleaning - my DH Allan does take the trash in and out, and helps with the pots and pans, but whenever he does something, he makes sure I know it - like he'll mention - "Oh I just did the dishes" or "I cleaned out the basement" or "I washed down the deck today" - Okay dear well I did the laundry (every week, not once every 6 months like washing the deck), I went grocery shopping, prepared dinner, cooked the dinner, put away the leftovers, loaded the dishwasher, baked 10 dozen cookies, cleaned our home office, etc.  Don't get me wrong, Allan does help out more than some, and he is a great hubby and father, but why do men not get it?  My house is 3700 sq. ft. also with a finished basement - we need it this big because we have the home office and one room in the basement where we keep the shoe samples and sample cases...

    Well we have the blizzard of '08 here today - snow up to 30 cm., then freezing rain and ice pellets this afternoon, more snow later.  Luckily they forecast this to come on Friday all week so I did all my errands yesterday. Only problem is the DH is supposed to fly home from Vancouver tonight, arriving around midnight.  By then it may have passed by and they could clean up the runways, but this morning most flights are cancelled ... I'll keep checking the WestJet website, he may have to come home tomorrow.

    Today is a "have a nice cup of tea and read the newspaper" kind of day.

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    Oh, Caya, your house is very big too.  Good thing you've got some help with it.

    OK....  I am taking a big step today.  I think I've decided to cut my hair.  I've come to bad point this week as I've mentioned.  Even using a flat iron, I'm not able to straighten it as much as I'd like so I think I'm just going to go w/the curl.  It's always been curly and it's always looked healthier when I haven't tried to manipulate into something it's not.  So...I'm having it colored today and I think I'm going to de-mullet it.  I am going to have her cut it blunt in the back, take off like an inch so it's even with the sides which are at the bottom of my ear...a curly bob.  I had this haircut years ago and it looked good.  I think it's my best bet for right now.  Beats the mullet look.  Boy, do I hate that.

  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2008

    Hi Ladies,

    I have another page of posts to read but will write before I do that.

    Joni, you are a big inspiration to me. If you can take a long needle in the stomach I can do one in the spine. IF it ever gets scheduled! As of Friday a.m. still no word.



    Viddie I take 200 mg of CoQ-10. They sell tablets in that size and I think we need the bigger dose.



    Caya, so nice you got your chore done. I spent all day, day before yesterday, computing my state sales tax for books sold. Yuggers! I wish I had time to chill but at least plan to take a few hours and go visit my mom and sis tomorrow.



    Tina let us know what you do in cardiac rehab and good luck with that realtor.



    I had a book signing in Madison last night and foolishly went,we had a big snow storm and I ended up driving home at 25 mph. It was dreadful! Luckily DS2 had gone with me so I wasn't alone. We made it home at 11 pm and Grendel had escaped the big fence we put on the door to his room. DH got home about 8:30 and found the scamp sitting by the door waiting for him. I never knew of another Lhasa who could do that.



    Must go read the rest of the posts....-Skye

  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2008

    Tina you don't need that "Party in the Back" mullet, LOL, you will look gorgeous with the cut.

    Rebecca, your Owen is such a complete scream. I remember when DS2 was that age we bribed him with GI Joe guys to control the skid mark syndrome. The funny thing is that my grandma, when she was in her final years and my mom was trying to care for her, would also leave her dirty underwear on the floor and then either deny it was hers or accuse someone else of wearing her undies. It took a good sense of humor on my mom's part.

    And none of you sound like "rhymes with witches" about the housecleaning thing. My house is also 3300 sq. ft. plus finished basement although we close off several rooms, but there is no way I can keep it really clean. Especially with the paper-shredding fiend of a puppy. Men who truly do their share of house chores are so rare. Mine cooks but leaves terrible messes for me to clean up. He does laundry but shrinks my sweaters. I cannot physically vacuum my stairway with my rotator cuff tear and other arm problems, so he says he will but never does. So next time I'm able I will hire a carpet cleaner/steamer to come in here or I'll go nuts. (DS is getting the chore in the meantime but it's like lighting a fire to wet wood.) Sigh...Mel, you take that cleaning lady and run!



    Amera, that is SO funny about your student! Made my day. Please send him to my beastofbrayroad.com site and tell him to click on the "books" link. :-) Then he will have no excuse for not reading.



    And yes gals, I have learned so much from all of you too. That is the original reason I joined, but it's turned out to be so much more. It's one of those things that makes me understand what your friend meant, Mel, by the blessings of BC.

    I am about to call my gal Kim at the oncologist office and ask what happened to my biopsy. Wish me luck - Skye

  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited February 2008

    Oh good, I needed an "Owen story". You should compile those into a book, kinda like the old Judith Viorst essays about her boys.

    I agree with all of you re household help. We are only two very neat people, but we have a cleaning lady every two weeks. We started that when our third child was born and have never given it up. But my husband grew up with his mom having help, so he was on board from the start. My mom never had help, but it was an easy adjustment for me to make!

    Skye, please keep us posted re the biopsy.  I hope you don't have to go thru another weekend with uncertainty, though I do think it will be fine.

    Crazy week for me ... issues with Social Security re my Dad, meeting with the patient liason about my husband's illness, laying out the options. None of them are good. We meet with his dr next week, will get scan results then. He may want to meet with a radiologist before deciding what he wants to do. So I think this may drag on for a month or so. I am grief stricken though. I would much rather go through it myself than watch my fit, marathon running, sweet guy deal with it. And he is very depressed, not handling it very well at all. The potential side effects are awful, esp since our insurance won't be offering the robotic method til April or May, and even then, he wouldn't want to be the guinea pig for doctors who are just learning the method.

  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2008

    Melia, I SO know how you feel. It's such a hard issue for a man to deal with, and just as hard to watch the man you love dealing with it. I feel bad that insurance is the bugaboo for the robotic method in his case. We were just lucky to have a very experienced person only an hour away and it was covered, too.



    However, I can't be too complimentary about our insurance. I learned today that a week ago, the doctor at my clinic who would have done the biopsy looked at my scans and decided it was in too deep within the vertebra and he would not do a biopsy at all! So the onc immediately tried to get a PET scan going again and they are now waiting for that decision a second time. You'd think they would have let me know some of this. I guess at least I can stop dreading the spinal needle. But if they don't permit the PET this time I don't know what happens next. Perplexity! - Skye

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    Skye - that really sucks.  I can't see how they could deny the PET scan now.  And how are you feeling?

    Tina - how did the haircut and colour turn out?  It sounds like you have way more hair than I do.  Try to post a picure if you can.

    Melia - Yes it is really tough to see your man suffer like this. But it sounds like you two are really supportive of each other, along with the rest of your family.  You will all get through this, although I know how difficult it is to just be getting over one hurdle to start dealing with another one... My BC was diagnosed within 9 months of DH's aneurysm... life was just beginning to return to normal...

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    Wow, Caya, I didn't realize yours and Allan's issues were that close in time.  Good God.  You two have had ENUF too.

    OK.......  I am THRILLLLLLLEDDDDDD with my hair.  I am so glad I took the time to decide what I wanted to do.  Had I trimmed the sides, it still would have been Mulletville.  So I left those to grow into longer layers and just totally blunted it at chin length, parted on the side, let it all go curly, gelled it, put one side beind my ear and I felt like ME again.  Even my son was amazed.  He came in from school and said Mom!  You like like YOU again!  My hair has a TON of body (too much!) and I can make this bob really full so even though it's short, I get a lot of volume so it doesn't look butch.  I'm pretty much wearing big silver or gold hoops everyday too and that helps.  I am so excited to not have to put in the fake mall pony every day or a headband, which was getting old.  I'm baaaaaaaackkkkkk!

  • dkmaustx
    dkmaustx Member Posts: 363
    edited February 2008

    Rebecca, I needed an Owen story and didn't know it. That one was sooo funny. I wished I had someone to walk around and pick after me. I'm not that good at it and the hubby doesn't leave that much laying around.

    Skye, sorry to hear that you are still on the Pet scan/Biopsy merry-go-round. I hope they will get down to actually doing a test on you to figure out what is going on with that bump. Glad you and your son made it home in the snow storm. What a little escape artist the Grendel is turning out to be.

    Melia, I hope things get settled for you and your husband when you see the doc.

    Tina, I hope the new hair do looks good.

    Caya and everyone with snow, I hope you are staying warm inside somewhere.

    Take care.

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited February 2008

    Skye, I hope your onc can convince the insurance company - have you thought of getting a lawyer?  This sounds awful that you have to sue to get what you are entitled to.

    Tina, glad your hair turned out good.  I need a trim too. 

    Mel, congrats on getting your Rosa!  You work so hard as a nurse, it's a very physical job, you deserve some help.

    Well everyone think of me tomorrow as I sneak around the church taking pictures of someone's wedding that I am not invited to - this is getting exciting.

    Hugs to all, and prayers to you Melia and Joni especially.

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    hey Mary - you're a wedding crasher - lol... have fun!

  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    Skye, I missed that part in your post yesterday...where you said it was too deep to biopsy.  I'm so sorry to hear that.  Why can't things just be easy!  &^%$#*!  Yes, I'd be ticked too, that they didn't share this info. with you sooner.  You would think they would 1) tell you right away and 2) tell you what the options are.  I can't imagine how they could do more chemo w/out knowing for sure it's malignant.  Hang in there, Skye.

  • Rebecca
    Rebecca Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    skye I find it disturbing in the extreme that you are kept out of the loop by your oncologist's office like that.  I think it is extremely irresponsible not to mention insensitive.  I am beyond horrified, and I am about ready to go marching in there are show them some Ta-Ta wrath. 

    Do not get me started on INSURANCE COMPANIES

    ok...now the rage is out....here is what I think you should do.  Call your insurance company yourself and get on the phone with someone in rapid resolution dept.  Explain the situation, and I bet they approve it.  I have had this happen to me, where something was denied again and again, and it was something very illogical that should clearly  have been covered had a rational person looked at the claim.  When the lady I spoke to on the phone looked at it, and listened to my explanation (along with my somewhat exagerated plea that if they did NOT cover it I would very likely go bankrupt from paying it myself) she immediately cleared it and it was paid. 

    The long and the short of it is that it is very likely that there is some stupid DRONE sitting in a cubicle who is reading "the rules" and using these commandments to determine whether or not you deserve to have your scan.  You need to get a real person on the line and you need to share with then your physical pain and the fact that this thing can not be biopsied OR treated without some kind of diagnosis (which you can not have without either a biopsy or a PET!) and that you MUST have the PET so that you can figure out what to do next.  I would probably also hint legal action.

  • luckymel
    luckymel Member Posts: 643
    edited February 2008

    Skye, I second what Rebecca said.  I am outraged, and also ready to storm your oncologists office and protest their treatment of you.  I also think that you need to speak with your insurance company personally, to get above the level of the 20 year old bimbo sitting in a cubicle denying everything automatically just because they can.  Now you don't have to worry about the needle biopsy anymore, so just get on the phone first thing Monday and stand up for yourself.    Hinting at legal action is probably not a bad idea, if you don't get immediate results.  This is totally ridiculous.

    Rebecca, thanks so much for sharing the Owen story.  We all needed a good laugh, and he is an endless source.  Love that kid!

    Melia, I hurt for you and your dh.   I'm so sorry you have to be going through this, but it is so good that you have each other, and also that you have enough experience with cancer treatment to help guide him through the maze.  Be sure you have explored every option before you decide what to do, and asked for every exception to the rules.  I don't know how Kaiser operates, but is there anywhere else nearby that you could go to get the robotic treatment, if that is the state of the art thing?  Any clinical trials?  I wouldn't take any "no" as a final answer.  Your husband may be too depressed to fight for himself now - you may have to be the one who insists on the best possible treatment in the best possible place.  Is he on anything for depression?  I'm sure that would help him - it has certainly helped me and lots of others in our group.  What day do you see the dr. next week?  Hugs to you both - I am so sorry you have to go through this. 

    Mary, have fun crashing weddings today - hope you get some good info.  Tina, glad you love your hair.  I'm heading in the same direction as far as hairstyle - if it's going to curl, I'll just let it go and do the curly bob look.  However, at the moment, it's too short to be any style except Bozo/Kramer, and I'm not going out with that.

    Joni, wondering how you're doing - how is your pain?  Thinking of you and hoping your radiation gets started quickly.  Jan, thinking about you, too.  Hope you're home and feeling ok.

    Harrison and I are still in bed - I've been reading the paper, he's napping.  I didn't have to jump up today and start trying to clean the house - it feels so nice.  My knee is killing me today, as are my fingers - I guess arthritis from the weather change.  The rheumatologist took me off the Neurontin and put me on Lyrica, but it's a small starting dose, so maybe that is contributing to the pain.  But, I don't have much to do today, so I'm not complaining. 

    Love you all, and hope everyone has a great weekend.

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited February 2008

    Hey there, unfortunately I didn't get to crash any wedding.  There was no one there at the church so apparently the calendar was wrong (most likely knowing our church) or they decided to not get married or get married elsewhere.  So I went there for nothing and the next wedding isn't until 4/26 if the calendar is right.  Luckily I have a lot of time before the wedding to figure out the flowers.  Time for a nap.  Have a great weekend and go Pats.

  • viddie
    viddie Member Posts: 547
    edited February 2008

    Hi all,



    Skye,

    I feel for you. Lots of hugs. I totally agree with both Rebecca and Mel. Time to show them who is really the boss!!! That is so unfair. Your oncologist should have told you about the surgeon last week. Can you get a second opinion? Perhaps there is another surgeon who would do the biopsy. Your oncologist should have suggested that. You have been through so much waiting- it is not fair. Hopefully the insurance company will approve it on Monday. If not, please follow Rebecca's advice, and call them yourself. You need and deserve some answers and respect.



    Rebecca,

    LOL about Owen. Thanks for sharing.



    Mary,

    Are there other churches you can check out? Bummer that the wedding was not there. That was a great idea.



    Mel,

    Sounds like you are having a nice relaxing weekend. I also have a cleaner come every 2 weeks. I love it. I would work just to keep them. It is such a treat. I am so glad you have help now. I hope your knee feels better soon.

    Tina,

    I am glad you like your hairstyle. Manageability is the key, and you achieved that. It sounds so cute.

    "You look like YOU again"- that's precious!

    Melia,

    Hugs to you. I know this is so hard for you. Are there other doctors in your area who have more experience with the robotic treatment? If you can find one, perhaps the insurance company will make an exception and let him get started in advance of their time schedule. it doesn't hurt to ask. Please hang in there- we are all here for you. I am sorry you have to go through this.



    Time to make dinner,



    Love,

    Viddie



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2008

    Hi all. I've had a rough weekend so far. I've been extremly tired. I tried drinking a lot more water today and that seemed to help. But still the fatigue is overwheming.

    I have clients that are expecting to hear from me on Monday - I so dread that. 

    I just noticed tonight that there's a rather hard area on the top/side of my new breast - I'm going to go look that up b/c I know I read something about it.

    Skye - I wish I could scream at your insurance company for you. It makes me so very angry. Rebecca (as usual) put it into words already.

    For all that are registered voters in the U.S. I'd strongly encourage you to research the candidate's positions on health care! 

    I'm going to go lay on the couch some more. 

  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited February 2008

    Jan - take it easy girl.  I hope you can take some more time off before resuming your work duties... at the very least, deal with only the most urgent clients/matters - and rest. 

    Allan got home from Vancouver last night on time.  He's off to NYC tomorrow until Thursday - I wish I could go with him, but our biggest shipment of the season is scheduled to arrive at the warehouse this week, so I have to be around.  Maybe in June - and don't worry Rebecca, I'll let you know in advance if I'm coming.

    Skye - I agree with the others - Please call your insurance company on Monday and demand action.  This is ridiculous, inhumane and unfair. 

    Have a good Sunday everyone.

  • Robbin65
    Robbin65 Member Posts: 251
    edited February 2008

    Where are you guys?  What happened to our Chazy Chat Room?

    Anyway, here is my Ronald McDonald Afro Woman hair coming in.

    aaaahhhhhh

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  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited February 2008

    You're still beating me, Robbin.  I have a full head now but not quite as much as you.  Curly as you though.  You look great!

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