I can't.....stop smoking........
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I've smoked for probably around 40 yrs. Have had bc twice, just finished chemo and while going thru this was dx with CHF and just had a long battle with MRSA which none were caused by smoking.
It's what I do w/my stress and to think, you know what I mean?
I did try the Chantix about a year ago and it made my brain feel weird, I don't like those feelings so now the box lays in a drawer.
I tried Wellbutrin and couldn't sleep and made me very stressed.
My husband did about a week's worth of Wellbutrin last year only he took them in the morning so it wouldn't affect his sleep, he got a bit grouchy but that passed and has put on a little weight. He is now smoke free.
I do not like the cost that has gone so high nor the attitude I get from some but I try to let each live their own lives.
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My husband was put on wellbutrin, it slowed down his smoking but he never completely gave up. He took it about 2 years. The wellbutrin did help him with his claustrophia though. He said that he just is not ready to quit.
Sheila
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Well, along with alot of you, I two am a survivor of breast cancer. I had a double masectomy, reconstruction, and four months of chemo. THat was in 2003, I was 27. I have been smoking since I was 15. I didn't stop even after been sick and going through everything I had went through. I would tell myself many many times how stupid could I be to still smoke. Well about a month ago I had a Cat scan on my chest. I t came back showing I had three spots on my lungs. From the time the Dr. tols me that I haven't smoked since. Dr. prescribed me Chantix. Like most of you my insurance didn't cover it , so it cost $125 for a month supply.FOr me the first three days were the toughest. Then the fourth day when I begin taking a dose in the a.m. and the p.m I could feel a big difference. For me I dont' even think about smoking, I don't crave it. I haven't even finished the whole months supply because I don't feel the need to. I went out a couple of nights ago for a girls night out, I was around it all night, it didn't bother me one bit. Yes I think it is amatter of wanting to quit in order to quit but, I by no means wanted to quit when I did. But when they told me about my lungs it scaird me enough to quit. Eveybody is different, it make the same thing for someone else to finally quit. BUt I am a big believe rin Chantix. Good luck to everyone that is trying to quit. It's not easy but it can be done!!!
(((((survivor))))
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This is my 6th day on Chantix. I have fudged a little (don't tell the hubby - he is quitting too and I think is being a good boy). Have to tell you the drug does help a lot. The worst se for me has been insomnia (waking every hour or 2 all night); lots of dreaming too (and not the good kind like about George Clooney climbing right into bed then and there).
My insurance wouldn't cover Chantix.
My surgeon told me not to quit until all surgeries were over because after quitting I would likely develop bronchitis.
I've smoked for 35 years--I want one right now but I know that feeling will pass. I can't do the one day at a time, just every 15 minutes or so.
I have many motivations to quit. For one thing, we simply can't afford them right now, I hate the social stigma thing, my best friend just did it with Chantix (she's not stronger than I am!!!--a healthy competition), I want to smell better, and most of all I am so tired of being a slave to cigarettes. You know what I mean.
I also quit once for three years after going to hypnosis. I went this time too to another hypnotist and quit for a week but then got my final dx and hit the pack hard along with a looooooooot of wine. I still have the tape from the current sesssion and play it. It helps.
Wish me luck -- I wish each of you all the best
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Hey Trix,
Good luck. I smoked for 20 years and I was having a cig. in my garage after chemo , of all things, I felt like I couldn't breathe and God told me put it out and I threw out the rest of my pack and never smoked again.It will be 2 years in January I am smoke free . When it is your time and your way to quit you will. Do not let people make you feel bad about it. Again,good luck to you. Benita
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Hey everybody, thanks for all the replies...and advice.
It's nice to know I'm not alone.
I'm going to try the Chantix....hopefully, that will help.
1survivor03, I think it might take that for me. I'm sorry about the spots on your lungs. That, is exactly what I am afraid of.
Good luck everybody!!
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Excuse me, I just sort of stumbled in on this conversation. Yes, I am a BC patient too..but this doesn't have anything to do with smoking.
I was a smoker...gave it up for 15 years!! Had one cigarette, and by the end of that week I was back to 2 packs a day. I was an industrial smoker. I understand your struggle especially at this time. It took me another 7 years to quit again. Both times it was cold turkey.... but aside for reasons, or logic, there was something that kicked in that kept me on the path. I can't explain it, but there is a part of your brain that is just ready. I was crazy for a few weeks until the nicotine got out of my system...then it was the "habit" I had to kick. That was the hardest part I think. I kept telling myself, I could have a cigarette any time I wanted to. I just didn't want to"HAVE TO Have" a cigarette when I didn't want to. Probably a control issue, but I replaced a cigarette with a toothpick, which you can see me with today 10 years later.
I can honestly say getting off cigarettes was almost harder than getting through chemo. Stick with it.. given what your body has been going through, it can only thank you for taking one more burden off it.
Good luck on your continued path to good health.
Grandma Wolf aka Dakota
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I posted on this thread awhile back and forgot to check it again...wow, I had no idea that there were so many of us wanting to quit!!!!
I really want to quit too...I have the entire step program of nicodermcq patches and had intended on starting them a few days after I first posted here....well ladies, they are still in the box and Im smoking more than every
...I had myself down to about 10 smokes a day, but at my 6 month followup for bc they found calcifications in my "good" breast that lead to a lumpectomy and a path report of atypica cells...no further treatment needed but my nerves and stress are out of sight.....Im three weeks out of that surgery and feeling better again so here I go AGAIN!!!!!
I am setting a date to start wearing those patches.....I am giving myself one more month of smoking then Im DONE....Im determined this time more than ever and Im trying to figure out somethings to use to break the habit part of it....I know the nicotine has to wear out of my system but I really think the habit part is going to be much harder for me...
Any ideas on this from anyone would be greatly appreciated...I need to come up with a plan between now and Nov. 30th......
Best wishes and luck to us all!
Jule
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>>Any ideas on this from anyone would be greatly appreciated...I need to come up with a plan between now and Nov. 30th......<<
Jule, you're on the right track already. The first ingredient to the mix is WANTING to quit. And beating yourself up over having a habit that's bad for your health is NOT the same thing as wanting to quit.
Giving yourself rewards is very important also. From now til month end, add up how much you spend on smokes. Then spend that same money next month on rewards for yourself. Personally, I started out with daily rewards. Things to pamper myself. Bubble bath supplies, for example. Candles, special soaps, lotions. And don't let yourself weasel out of rewarding yourself. You always manage to find money for smokes, right? Manage to spend that same money on something that nurtures your spirit and soul. Find a phrase that resonates for you. For me, thinking of the habit as a yoke of slavery worked well for me.
I can come up with more. I think each person usually has one thing they sort latch onto. It's just a matter of finding the right time and motivation.
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HELLO! I had left a message here at the end of SEPT. I just found out today that IF you ask your PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN (or even better, your ONCOLOGIST) to write you a LETTER OF MEDICAL NECESSITY that you MUST quit smoking, then most INSURANCES will pay for CHANTIX!!! We found this out from a young man who has cancer and is working as a carpenter (in order to KEEP his insurance), and this is how HE was able to get the insurance to pay for his CHANTIX. If this works, GO FOR IT!!!!! Don't give up on CHANTIX, as it really was wonderful for us. Even tho we did not stop, it actually did cause us to slow down INCREDIBLY - instead of going thru two cartons a week, we were going thru less than ONE. Now, we have not been taking the CHANTIX, and are back up to spending $200 or more a month on STUPID CIGS!!!
BEST OF LUCK, give it a shot, and don't give up - oh, you will feel SSSSOOO good once you DO stop, believe me (I remember how great it was to be able to walk and breathe and and smell things...OH YEAH!).
BLESSED BE,
Connie in Boston
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Jule,
I quit smoking 14 years ago cold turkey-no patches, etc. I used to smoke 2 to 3 packs a day. The first week was the hardest. I chewed sugarless gum all the time to keep my mouth busy so that i would not overeat to compensate for not smoking.
I also agree with Althea -- treat yourself to rewards with the money that you used to spend on cigs. i bought clothes, books, art supplies.
i wish you all good luck. You will be surprised at how good you will feel without the smoking and coughing and gunk in your throat all the time. Your real voice comes back also, because your voice becomes very hoarse when you smoke. You will sound years younger. Also, your senses get better: your ability to taste, and your ability to see colors improves!!
The rewards are just ahead!!! Good luck all !!!
celia
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Well, I thought I'd never be able to say this, but, I've been smoke free for almost six months now. I was a 30 year smoker and smoked at least 2 packs a day. I used to think about quitting a lot and wishing that I could, but, I never managed to make it through more than a few hours.
My hysterectomy surgery this past May is what helped me to quit smoking. I had discovered through my previous experience with surgeries that anesthesia and pain meds decrease my desire to have a cigarette. So, I made up my mind before my hyster surgery that I would use that fact to my advantage in my quest to stop smoking. Plus, I'd be in the hospital for at least 2 days (turned out to be 3 days)...and they sure don't let you smoke in the hospital! So, I was heavily sedated through that first week or so after surgery - which meant that I really never had to experience the awful physical withdrawl symptoms of nicotine. Once I got of my meds and would crave a cig, I would tell myself - out loud, "No, I'm not a smoker. I don't want a cigarette"....Within a few seconds the craving would go away. I think by saying that to myself I may have actually hypnotized myself by tricking my mind into believing that I was a nonsmoker. It really sounds silly, I know, but, it worked for me. The other thing is that any time I would crave a cig, I would chew two or three pieces of sugarless gum. I'm still carrying my sugarless gum around in my purse like I did my cigarettes - and, funny thing is that I think of my gum like I did my cigs - I start to panic when I'm running low on my gum!
Not that I recommend taking such a drastic step as having a hysterectomy in order to stop smoking - but, I highly recommend that if you are scheduled for any type of surgery that you use that to your advantage and see if you can use that first week after surgery to help you get through those difficult early days of stopping smoking.
But, please don't beat yourself up for not being able to smoke. And, those of you who are recently diagnosed or still going through treatment - especially, don't beat yourself up...You've got enough stress on your right now, you don't need to add more to your plate. When I was first diagnosed all my doctors told me that I should not even think about trying to quit smoking until I was finished with my treatments....it would just be too stressful.
Best wishes to all of you!
hugs,
vicki
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I have been taking Chantix and I am on day 17 without a smoke! I have smoked 1-1/2 packs a day for over 35 years.
I am having my morning coffee as I write. Do I want a cigarette? Yes! How badly? Less than yesterday. And not enough to give up now.
At first, I couldn't take it one day at a time. Just every craving (every 15 minutes or so!).
Gum, sugarless candy, grapes, toothpicks, walking, deep breathes, and lots of prayer.
I know I am not over this yet; I know I was addicted to cigarettes and will always be; I know I want to be smoke free.
I could recite all my reasons for quitting. But honestly, I feel they are truly individual and it wouldn't help you much. You can reach inside you for them. And, here's the deal. When you're ready you'll do it. Until then, try when you can and don't beat yourself up if you can't.
Good luck and God Bless
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I work at a community college in California. The health services education coordinator came up with a stop smoking goody bag. Almost all the people who quit smoking using her little bag, and the classes (free) she offered weekly, thought the cut in half straw was perfect. You can hold it like a cigarette, and take deep pulls into your lungs--and you are getting that clean fresh air that helps to heal your lungs also.
Another trick one of my friend's mother used was to carry a cigarette with her all the time. When she felt like lighting up, she would take it out and just puff away unlit. She was with her hubby in a restaurant having coffee after dinner, and out cam the ciggy. After a few minutes, this gentleman came up to her husband and chided him for not lighting her cigarette. She explained that she doesn't want to smoke it, just feel like she is. Everyone had a good chuckle over that one!
Good luck on quitting. It is hard. and it is true that it doesn't help to beat yourself up. Just keep trying!!
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Hi, was just cruisin the forum and stumbled across this post and thought i'd put my two bob's worth in, don't know if it will help tho. In Australia we have "Nicobate CQ Lozenges" in 4mg (for those who have their first ciggie within 30 mins of waking (helloooo...i was within 3 seconds!!!). I was a heavy smoker on 2 packs a day for 40 yrs and i also thought..i could get hit by a mac truck tomorrow so what's the problem? People i knew who'd quit used to say to me..you have to WANT to do it and you'll know when you're ready..yeah right! I had WANTED to quit for a long time, but just couldn't bring myself to do it - i enjoyed me ciggies too much. One morning about 10 months ago i woke up and thought - i don't want to do this anymore. I too didn't like the social stigma, the smell and the NEED for a cigarette. I was angry that the cigarettes had control over me, i didn't like the way it was ruling me and i just wanted to let that "tobacco" know that I was in charge. I guess i was "ready". Instead of buying tobacco that day i went to the chemist and bought the lozenges. I know the only reason they helped was because i was ready to IMAGINE and ACCEPT a life without cigarettes, something i could never bring myself to think of. They worked, but only because i was angry enough to want to prove I was in control. Buy lots and lots of sugarless gum..you're gonna need it!! Sorry if i've rambled on but trying to put my feelings into words isn't easy. Hope this may help someone out there. Best of luck, i'm thinking and praying for you all. (((((hugs))))) Jude.
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Has anyone seen the commercials by a law firm for a class action suit against the makers of CHANTIX? They talk about severe ill effects if one drinks alcohol while on CHANTIX. My husband had a prescription for it a few months ago, but I didn't look at the patient insert with all the contraindications and side effects.
Unfortunately for my husband, he did not take the CHANTIX on the appropriate schedule and therefore did not quit. I think his attempt may have been more of a token gesture to make his doctor happy rather than a true desire to quit smoking, though. It's weird how cigarettes are actually a stimulant, but many of us smoke them to calm down. I do know that the nicotine gets involved in the way our brains use SEROTONIN. That's why people gain weight and get irritable when they try to quit.
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I smoked for 34 yrs. I just quit 4 weeks ago cold turkey. My PS I had to because of the recon I was going to have done. It was going to be critical to my healing. It scared me enough to quit. In 34 yrs, I tried quiting before, but this time it was easier and it doesn't bother me like I thought it would. The TRAM flap reconstruction and the outcome was my biggest worry and I knew the smoking would make it much more difficult.
I wish you all the best of luck to quitting, because it can be done, we are all survivors! OXOX
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Here comes me with a bit of encouragement of the wrong kind. There appears to be no connection between breast cancer and smoking.
I know you all would love to stop because of the other cancers, the cost, the nuisance, etc., but at least one tiny bit of good news. (If it is true)
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Hi everyone....I'm IllinoisLady. New to all this and in looking through everything I saw this section. I smoked for 34 years and like most of you loved it. My dh and I had moved back to my home town in Illinois from California and once again I decided to QUIT. Tried so often with hypnosis, special filters for your cigarettes that took more and more of the nicotine out each time you used the next filter...... I tried it all it seems and was successful with all of it for short periods. Then all the things that get people wanting to quit kicked in--stigma, cost, smell, constant cleaning of walls and curtains etc. Got here to Illinois and had just gotten a prescription for Zyban. This is a drug aide that was popular in the 90's. Then my Mom who had quit years and years before was diagnosed with emphysema. Dr. said it wasn't due to her smoking 35 or 40 years before. She had in fact a few years earlier ran 10 K races and won them and had been invited to carry the Olympic torch in Los Angeles.
I think watching my beautiful, loving, fantastic mother who meant the world to me die gasping for breath was finally strong enough medicine to get me to do what needed to be done. I took the Zyban for a week--it had side effects that scared me, like seizures if you forget and took a second pill that day.........so it was difficult, but I haven't smoked for nearly ten years now. I have to say that while my physical addiction passed in about two weeks, my mental addiction lasted for a couple of years and I struggled a lot with it. So many times I wanted to give in but then I'd think about the greatest Mom a person could have and it would let reason seep in around the cracks. Now, it's often hard for me to be in a closed room ( winter-time) with too many smokers, and hard to be next to someone talking to me just after they have smoked. I know you'll think I'm holier than....but after awhile these things can become an issue. I feel like I see both sides since I did smoke for so long...........you have a right to smoke....just as I once did, but I now have the right to not have to undergo second hand smoke or all that. I see no reason why all these rights can peacefully co-exist. They have non-smoking motel rooms, restaurant areas and the like. I'm happy. So keep your chin up and when the time is right so for it.
IllinoisLady
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There is an older drug called 'buspar' that they accidentally discovered helped people quit smoking -- lost their fixation for a nicotine fix.
It is/was used as an 'anti anxiety' med but they noticed people lost their nicotine addiction when on it. So 'buspar' as an older drug might be cheaper then the new 'chantix' . Newer drugs cost more$$$.
(I have a friend who used buspar due to a fear of flying - in early 90's - and discovered she had no nicotine desire when using it. She took it two weeks before and during her flight then used Xanax during the day of flight. She kicked her cigarette habit with buspar.)
Cigarette companies use the cigarette as a 'delivery system' for a nicotine fix. It isn't any different then a heroine or cocaine addiction/fix. Just a different legal delivery system for an addictive substance.
They also put gunpowder in the tobacco so the cigarette will burn faster - thus you smoke more - thus you buy more. That's why your cigarette burns up so fast just sitting in the ashtray.
They also use on the tobacco plants hundreds of pesticides and insecticides that are banned in the United States with an exception for tobacco growers. (big dollar lobbyist at work)
You have to want to quit. Nothing will work unless you really want to quit smoking.
Lung cancer from smoking accounts for about 90% of lung cancer deaths. It is the no. 1 cancer killer of both men and women. Survival of breast cancer is higher then the survival of lung cancer.
It takes ten years for your lungs to return to the status of a nonsmoker. But the risk of lung cancer will always be there if you were a smoker. The risk never goes away -- just reduced considerably after you quit and get past that ten year mark.
You can't smoke while wearing a nicotine patch -- that can give you a heart attack.
I had a friend who had to remove the patch just before he went to bed cause it gave him bad dreams and disrupted his sleep.
I have another friend who used the nicotine gum (about 10 yrs ago). She chewed it for a year! Then she had to withdraw from the gum but she said it was easier then withdrawal from cigarettes.
For mastectomy patients that want reconstruction, most surgeons, if not all, will not do the surgery if you are a smoker. It interferes with healing and blood vessel growth.
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Hi all
I am a smoker and the idea of quitting seems to stress me out!! My onc asks if I have given up, but we both know I haven't or can't. Smoking keeps my stress levels down!!!
I am so 'happy' that there are others out there smoking. Don't feel so alone or so guilty.
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Hi,
Can you take Chantix while you are doing your breast reconstruction? If so, I will talk to my doctor about it. Does any one know?
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Bermudagem,
All I saw on the Chantix page about surgery was "please tell your surgeon or health care provider well in advance of your surgery that you are taking Chantix." I didn't see anything about drug interactions.
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Hi:
I have been a non-smoker for 12 years, this year. I tried numerous times to quit smoking and tried various techniques,(over 10 times) such as, cold turkey, nicotine gum and finally the nicotine patch.
I smoked up to 2 packs of cigarettes a day; matter of fact, when I quit, cigarettes cost, in Chicago, $2.50 a pack.
Well in 1994, my grandmother pleaded to me and my mom (now deceased, died of lung cancer) to quit smoking; so in 1995 we did, however, a few months later, my grandmother passed at the age of 89 and we started smoking again. Quitting smoking was always in our minds and on New Years eve of 1995 we quit again; so 1996 was the year I quit. Prior to New Year's eve, I had gotten a prescription from my doctor for the nicotine patch, (he recommended it) for the 5th time mind you. You learn how to get around anything if you are not ready to quit, and I would take it off and wait awhile, then smoke. However, I was ready this time. My doctor wrote one presciption to cover all phases, 21mg, 17mg and the 7mg, so I only paid 1 co-payment of, at that time $5.00. with 1 refill; since I smoked over a pack a day, I started out with the 21mg for 8 weeks, the norm is 6 wks, but for some reason, in my previous attempts to quit, I found that I would start to crave cigarettes around week 6. The first week was kinda uncomfortable, but I got through it and after 8 weeks I progressed to the 14mg patch for 2 weeks and finally to the 7mg patch for 2 more additional weeks. I haven't looked back since, and I didn't gain weight because I didn't have to substitute any cravings because I had a steady but gradual decline of nicotine in my system. I highly recommend this method; insurance does cover it. Cigarettes in Chicago are now $7-8 a pack... WOW.... Good luck with whatever you decide to you; don't dwell on how many times you try to quit, you will eventually succeed! Peace and Blessings, Dee
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Whew! It's soooooooooooooo good to know I'm not the only nutty person in this world who's being tx for the big C and can't quit! OMGOSH! What a relief.
I spent the first month after diagnosis begging each doc for help! Even the Am Cancer Society gave me a hard time! I finally gave up! My insurance will only cover chantix after I've tried wellbutrin for 3 months. Guess I'll have to get a script for 3 months, then ask for the chantix. It's nutty. I tried it years ago and it did NOTHING! But they were freebies at the time from the doc office, so there's no record with this ins
This spring, when I get my arm back in working order (rotary cuff problem) and can be outside busy, I will try again! I really want to and that was one of 5 reasons I went to the docs for on 9/20. The arm, to quit smoking, this breast lump and hmmm..can't remember now. But once he felt the lump, he sent me for the mammo and the race was on! Never even saw him again! Crazy med field anyway!
I'll be watching and pulling for all those trying and succeeding in quitting! Keep it up ladies and post your progress! We're behind you!
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I have not posted in a long time..I am two years after my Mast. and was still smoking also till a little over two months ago..I am 58 years old..and have smoked since I was 18..I hate not smoking..I would like to write all kinds of supportive stuff about how great it is but it hurts like hell to quit and you have to make up your own mind in your own time about when to do it...I miss it and it has been a friend to me when I am stressed...but I still need more surgery and you really need to stop to heal..this time I want to do it for good. I want to offer you my total understanding..sympathy..and wisdom..it sucks its hard but they say its worth it so I am trying..I hope you try too..we have survived the monster called cancer so far..now we need to beat this other monster that takes control of us...I wish you luck. now this weight thing............ughhhh Sandi
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Wow.. the smoking
I smoked as well prior to DX
then when dx.. had a terrible time
quitting.. it was not the time to stop
cold turkey.. too hard then
Now.. near 8 yrs later
I am glad that smoking is out
of my life
I have to admit
the odd time.. I could go
for one.. but DONT
ODD THING IS..
LOST MY CAT.. and thought
I would increase the smoking
but.. all of a sudden just stopped
My Dad died of Lung Cancer
so.. this also had quite a bearing
You can do it
when you are ready
Best to all -
Hello All,
I was reading this post regarding smoking. I am in Nursing school and I am learning so much thru my clinical experience and books and my point of view is that its best to stop smoking before Chemo. Chemo kills all the cancer cells and good cells (white blood cells), so if you want a better chance to fight Cancer quit before Chemo because that is going to help you a lot. This is just my opinion and lot of other Onco Drs opinions.
Pray on it and give it to God and if you really want it you can do it. I will keep you all in my prayers as well.
God bless,
Dana
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