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  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited December 2007

    Hi Jenny!

    I'm so happy to hear from you, but sorry that you're having such a rough time. Here's hoping today is brighter for you!

    I use her picture as my avatar to remind me what is most important in my life. Not my job, not my hair (or lack thereof), or the kind of clothes I wear, but that the battle we all fight today will help to spare her this journey and millions of other women like her. Call me mushy, but at least that is my hope! Plus, if she can bring a smile to someone's day, then that's a bonus! Wink

    The Look Good, Feel Better course that I was scheduled to attend last night was trumped by the persistent "Feel Lousy, Want Sleep" mood I was in. I really did want to go before the hair started coming out.  I thought I could feel more prepared for it, but I wasn't even sure that I could retain any of the information due to this chemo fog. Plus, the weather outside was less than inviting. High winds, snow, and a horrible wind-chill. NOT my kind of evening. So, I stayed on the couch and drifted off to sleep listening to Vince Guaraldi and A Charlie Brown Christmas mixed with the sweet giggles of my daughter.

    Ok, so I just got my driver's license renewal in the mail yesterday. Yup. Need a new picture and all. Wow. I'm debating whether or not to wait until I have my wig. I'm naturally a brunnette, but I could be a blonde or a readhead for the next five years! By the time I need a new license, I'll just be finishing up my taxoxifen regimen. I'll put that wig pic in my scrapbook.

    I, too, will be having radiation after chemo. Karyll...wow. 1.5 hours to drive for five minutes of treatment. Sheesh! I knew that if I had a lumpectomy that I would have to go through radiation to sterilize that breast, but I didn't think you had to if you had a mastectomy. Is it because of how close the tumor was to the chest wall?

    Hang in there Sharont68! I'll be praying for you today!

    Sharon 

  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited December 2007

    Crystal1? Ginnyintx? How are you doing? Check in when you can.

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Hi Mia,

    I just saw your question about the Neulasta shot.  I don't know if everyone in the US automatically gets the shot, but everyone that I have ever talked to in the US has.  I had my Neulasta shot the day after treatment and then my blood work a week later.  Even with the shot my WBC was 2.7, it was 8.8 the day of treatment,  so I guess it was a good thing I had it. 

    Jenny

  • clsd
    clsd Member Posts: 101
    edited December 2007

    Hi Jenny, I wish you a wonderful lunch with your dear Daddy, who will certainly see you as the most beautiful girl in the restaurant, with or without your hair ! Keep smiling ! Hugs. Cindy

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Hey Sharon,

    Sorry to hear you had a bad night last night.  I hope today is a brighter one.  It sounds like you are like me in that the best sound in the world is your child's laughter.  I don't think there is any better joy than knowing your children are happy!

    For me I am having to still have radiation after my mastectomy because the positive nodes actually had small tumors in them and not just cancer cells.  I originally thought like you that with the mastectomy that radiation wouldn't have to be done, but we all know that with this we learn new things daily.

    I haven't had the Look Good Feel Better class yet.  The last two times I went to my doctor they didn't have the schedule.  I am going to call today and see if I can get into one of the classes ASAP. 

    I hope everyone has a laughter filled day. 

    Jenny

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Thanks Cindy!  You are correct about my dad.  I just want to keep the hair for today for him.  My dad's mom died of cancer, as well as my mom, his best friend, and two of my uncles - one of which was the day before I was diagnosed.  He is really having a difficult time with me having it, even though he tries not to show it.  He took a leave of absence from work so he could help me with going to my appointments as well as helping with the kids.  He really is a great dad.  Thanks to for the hugs.  I take them anytime I can get them.

    Keep laughing,

    Jenny

  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited December 2007

    Jenny, your dad sounds like the most wonderful dad on earth. Enjoy every minute of your day! 

    Here come the (((((((hugs)))))))!

  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited December 2007

    Hi Mia,

    I am not getting the Neulasta shot automatically. My oncologist wants to see whether or not my wbc's dip with this first treatment. The shot carries a pretty hefty price tag. There is another alternative to the Neulasta shot called Neupogen (sp?). It's a shot that must be administered daily (you know what that means) but it doesn't seem to cause the bone pain that the Neulasta shot does.

    My Mom gave herself Neupogen shots for three months and she said that you could barely tell there was a needle involved. That woman is my hero!

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    Hi all you beautiful ladies, sharon I think it was you that asked

    about my son those are my grandbabies. I had my second round

    of chemo wednesday afternoon and I felt fine untill Friday morning

    the constipation the slight nausea and the big time flu like symtoms, I felt like my head was gonna explode. friday was the worst sat and sun I just felt really spaced out and tired. Monday

    I was starving again and for pizza so I went for it!!  I just really

    hate that headache and spaced out feeling that come with the chemo. well anyhow whine whine sorry ladies.  Well next time I will not  forget the prunes. I haven't checked in since chemo, I

    was just kinda blank these past few days. I hope everyone is doing

    well, I picked myself up and dusted myself off and I'm ok again.

    prayers and hugs and be well.

    Ginnyintx

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    Oh and don't eat the bannas after chemo no matter how bad

    you crave it. I think thats what caused me such grief.

    be well ginnyintx

  • phelton
    phelton Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2007

    Hello all just checking in 5 days out of chemo treatment 1 im a little spacey,dizzy,and mildly fatigued,but overall not bad i guess,had my nuelesta shot yesterday so far no mayor bone pain, hope all is well with you all, feeling better one day at a time.prayers and hugs to all.

    pennie

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    welcome Sharon only I am sorry for the reason we are all here

    but prayers, hugs and best wishes to you. Be strong.

    ginnyinyx

  • sharont68
    sharont68 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Hi ladies, quick question....how long did it take for you to get your roam of motion back in the arm where the surgery for the nodes where taken out? I had my lumpectomy and sentinal nodes dissection on 24 Oct. The mastectomy was Nov 9. I can lift my arm just enough to curl my hair. I know it's going to take time, I just want my arm back to normal. I'm doing my stretching but it seems that I work on massaging my veins in that arm more than anything. I wonder why my onc said I didn't have to have rads. Something I'm going to have to ask him. I don't want this coming back because we skipped a part of treatment!

    Mia-- I had my port put in during my lumpectomy surgery 24 Oct. It still hurts sometimes. I had it flushed for the first time last week. I was so nervous but the nurse was great. He had me laughing so much that the flush was over before I had a chance to react to anything. I'm hoping it's like that everytime I have to get the port accessed.

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited December 2007

    SharonT- My onc changed me from 4 AC then 4 taxol w/herceptin to 6 TCH (Taxotere,carboplatin,herceptin) at the last minute.  He said for her2+  the taxotere is easier on the heart than the adriamiacin when taking herceptin and proven just as effective. I go every week for my herceptin during the 18 weeks, then I will get it every 3 weeks until nov 2008. I will start rads about a month after the last chemo cocktail in mid feb, my onc didnt say how many yet. It is my understanding that the rads depend on where they find the tumors and if they are near any muscles or if you dont have a total mast.  Since i had a partial the rads are necessary. 

    Taxotere seems to be gentler than A also because the hair takes longer to fall out and the nausea is not as bad. I started to shed by day 16 but didnt lose it in clumps until after my 2nd tx. My dh used the wahl clippers to shave mine off and I have some stubble and some patches of bald.  I am thinking of going to a barber shop to get it shaved!  My dh shaves his head and I have see nicks and scrapes on his skin afterwards so I do not want him to touch mine. Laughing

    I am not sure if it is the chemo working on the hormones or what but I am so emotional now. I never was one to cry at movies or weep over spilled milk, but now I cry at the drop of a hat! I teared up in church during the sermon, I started to cry watching a sci-fi movie last night...really weird reasons to tear up.

    Jen- I also have been getting nose bleeds.  My last bloodwork had my platelets at 84, they should be greater than 150 so I figured that to be my problem. I have been all stuffed up since my mom came to visit so I think I will call my family dr to get him to look up there and see what might be going on.  I love this site!  we get such good info on here.

    I am feeling good today and it seems the winds have died down, just a little snow on the ground. I think I will venture out for some fresh air.

    Cheryl

  • sharont68
    sharont68 Member Posts: 124
    edited December 2007

    Thanks Cheryl...I did have a total mast. Maybe that's what he meant when he was explaining things to me. I was mostly out of it when he was talking to me. I think he had me when he was going over the four treatments(Cytoxan,Taxol,Adriamycin and Herceptin) I'm still not sure how they will be given. I think the A/C are together with taxol afterwards for 4 cycles each followed by herceptin  for a year. Thank goodness my husband was there to answer questions because I was all fogged up! But even he is a little confused! Without this forum, I think I would be totally lost!

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Hey Cheryl - you may want to try using a saline nasal spray in the morning and a night to keep your nose from drying out.  You can also try this saline nasal gel called Ayr that my ENT gave me.  It works really well.  My ENT also told me that if I got another nose bleed to get a cotton ball and spray some Afrin nasal spray and put the cotton ball in the bleeding side and then press together.  He told me that will cause the veins to contract and help stop the bleeding much faster.  Thankfully I haven't had anymore nose bleeds since he told me this but I figure he went to school for this stuff so hopefully he knows what he is talking about Smile  My ENT also instructed me to stay away from all aspirin and aspirin products while I am on chemo.  He said that aspirin stays in your body for up to 9 days after you take it.  Hope you get to enjoy your visit with your mom.


    Jenny

  • 3boys4me
    3boys4me Member Posts: 319
    edited December 2007

    Morning everyone,

    Just checking in.  It always takes me a while to read all the posts I've missed when I don't check in often enough. 

    I'm finding AC much more tolerable than the Xeloda/Taxotere combo I was on back in March.  No major side effects to speak up - constipation, mild upset stomach, fatigue, and a low grade fever, but all se's are gone by day 6 or so.  Only 2 more to go, then rads.

    Like some of you, I had a large tumor with lymph node involvement, so I, too, will have rads after chemo.

    And keep posting the little family pics.  I haven't figured out how to add a picture for an avatar - maybe someone can explain it to me?!

    love to all,

    Lisa

  • roxygirl64
    roxygirl64 Member Posts: 32
    edited December 2007

    Hi Everyone

    I had to shave my head last night.  My kids did not handle it very well.  I have 18 year daughter and 15 year son that watched my husband shave it.  I laughed while they all cried.  They just walked out of the room and told me that they could not handle and went to their room.  I hate to see my kids hurt, I think they are scared and don't know what is going to happen to me.  I just reassure them that I will be fine and it will just take time and that I will have my down time.  I keep as positive as I can around them. I had my second treatment last Thursday and am real tired, shakey but other than that I guess I am doing the best I can.

    Take care everyone

    Jodi

  • mommy_mia
    mommy_mia Member Posts: 81
    edited December 2007

    Sharon - your Look Good Feel Better note made me laugh out loud!  You are too funny!  And the driver's license photo...well that's just mean of them...ha ha. You could go in bald and see if they still want to take it.  Kidding, of course!

    I had the neupogen shots last week for 5 days.  They were fine, but apparently added to the nausea.  Oh well, whatever we need to do we will.  The health nurse came each day to give them to me.  Thought she would teach me how to give it to myself...not going to happen...so she happily came each day.

    Hope everyone who had a recent treatment is doing ok!

  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited December 2007

    Ginnyintx, your grandchildren are adorable! I'm sorry you have been having such a rough time, but it sounds like things are on the upswing for you now!  Great news! I'll remember that about the bananas. I LIVE on bananas. OOPS!

    Pennie, hang in there. I'm glad that you checked in. You're right...one day at a time. (((hugs))) I'll keep you in my prayers.

    Lisa, glad that the AC seems more tolerable than the taxotere/xyeloda cocktail you were on previously. Are you halfway through? CONGRATS! 

    Jodi, I was 12 when my mom was diagnosed. I reacted the same way most kids do...I was scared to death and feared the unknown. However, my mom was so upbeat and positive that I didn't stay scared long. If it wasn't for her, I'm sure our family would have had a meltdown. Hang in there. I feel for all of you with older children. My heart goes out to you. ((((hugs)))) 

    Off for another nap...

    Sharon 

  • Karyll
    Karyll Member Posts: 235
    edited December 2007

    Well that was a lot to read. I hope i remember to answer everything... lol. I am having rads because of lymph node involvement I understand, and they will radiate the chest wall as well because I guess it was close. Funny how some things I want in great detail and maybe I will later, but right now, I just wanted to know it was gone and what to do next.

      To some of you - a quick reminder that it is quite normal for your tastebuds to go. For me, I have chemo on Thursday and by Sunday food tastes like cardboard with aspartame syrup on it. This does abate a bit before your next chemo and maybe you will be blessed not to be affected that way - but if you are.... it's not your cooking that's bad but your tastebuds... lol. I had made my famous lasagne for boyfriend - I kept apologizing that it tasted so bad. He and my kids were looking at me like I was nuts - it was only ME that it tasted bad to.. so I heaved a sigh of relief that my cooking hadn't gone to pot with chemo.. and then realized that now I couldn't even enjoy my own food.. *sigh*.....However, this too shall pass eventually.

      The arm movement took quite a long time for me - seemingly I guess and even now I still get a little nag in my armpit or incision if I reach to far too quickly. I had total mastectomy with axillary node dissection on August 21st. Overall it took I guess about  6 weeks before I felt pretty normal with arm movement. I didn't have any lymphedema or anything so far and I am using my arm and hand quite normally now. I even shovelled snow the last couple of times. There are days during chemo that my incision and armpit ache - sympathetic maybe I dunno - but it passes, and it is usually on my "lower" type days. I really have not stopped doing anything that I would normally do - except I don't lift so much at a time. It gets better and better and then one day you reach for something and think.. HEY... that didn't hurt even!!!!! Hope that helps.

       Keep on keepin on ladies... It sucks at times, but you all make it just a little bit easier!

    Karyll

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Well call me G.I. Jenny.  I shaved my head last night.  I was sitting with my daughter watching TV and just steadily pulling out hair.  It was the weirdest thing.  It was almost like a compulsion.  I just couldn't stop.  It's like watching a train wreak.  You want to look away.  You know you should turn away, but you just can't.  It was the same way with my hair.  I knew I should stop pulling it out.  I wanted to stop pulling it out, but I couldn't.  After making about the forth pill of hair my daughter got a little freaked out.  I decided it was just time to buzz it, so I did.  It is weird.  Me loosing my hair has been messing with my mind so much, but once it was gone it didn't seem to bother me as much.  Right now I am pretty patchy because of the already complete balled spots and the other areas that haven't caught up yet, but it is still better than the limbo I was in waiting for it to all come out.  Does that sound strange?  Anyway my kids are now calling me G.I. Mommy Laughing  Finding humor where we can.

    Hope everyone enjoys their day!

    Jenny

  • clsd
    clsd Member Posts: 101
    edited December 2007

    GI Jenny,

    OMG, I can't stop touching my hair too. It started last night for me too, after a couple of days of a sore scalp. It is so weird. I REALLY thought it would not bother me, but after the kids got on the bus I lost it ! Concerts, birthdays,Christmas,office parties.....ALL in the next few weeks. This time of the year is not a good time to be bald !I am going to take your advice and just get the job done and shave it. What type of razor did you use?

  • my2girls
    my2girls Member Posts: 54
    edited December 2007

    Hi Ladies.

    Tx last Friday.  Still groggy and queasy but went back to work yesterday. 

    Jodi, hang in there honey.  Your babies will be ok.  My kids are better now. Two girls, 15 and 11.  The 15 yr old is my rock and the 11 yr old is doing better all the time and has become my little comforter.  I am trying to put all focus on Christmas.  Corny music and all.

    I have a suggestion for all of you - Chemo Angel.  Go online and sign up.  It is wonderful.  I get a card or little something every week.  It is such a pickmeup.   I absolutely love it. Do this.

    For those dealing with the hair issues this week.  I shaved my head almost three weeks ago now.  It was an awful week.  I thought I had it under control and had accepted it.  Well, I was way wrong.  I have to say it is sinking in now but when I am with my boyfriend, it is still so fresh and painful.  I don't really have any words of wisdom.  We just have to deal with it.  What choice do we have? 

    Sharon, I had a bilateral mast.  My range of motion came back pretty quickly but that is because I moved around alot.  It still feels tight sometimes and not the same as before, but I am not prevented from doing whatever I need to.

    My best wishes are with all of you who are dealing with the nasty se this week.  Nosebleeds and runny noses and nausua and mouth sores and on and on.  It is so easy to get weary, but lets take it one day at a time.

    Will I be too completely lame if I say Happy Holidays?!

    Lisa in VA

  • phelton
    phelton Member Posts: 13
    edited December 2007

    Hi to all,hope everyone is doing good. I have a question? I have a rash all over my body, i called dr they think it might be from the steroid, has anybody had rash i had the nuelesta shot monday morning rash i noticed last night ,i was thinking it came from the shot.MY turn to shave my head this weekened will be the hardest thing yet for me but i know i can do it.

    prayers and hugs to all

    pennie

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Hey clsd - It is a Wahl hair shaver like they use to do crew cuts at the salons.  You can buy them at Walmart or Target.  As far as the bald thing goes for the parties go out and find you some beautiful bright colored scarves to tie on you head.  I got some of the wider scarves that are usually tied around your neck and cut them in half.  That made them the perfect length to tie on my head and I got two scarves for the price of one.  With a pretty, decorative scarf it will look more like you are wearing an extra accessory for the party instead of just trying to cover up a bald head.  I was actually more comfortable in the scarves than I thought I would be.  The cool air on my head is really weird, in a neat sort of way.  It is definitely a new experience.  Good luck and just try and embrace the new sensations.  It will take getting use to, but hasn't everything we have been through so farLaughing

    Keep laughing,

    Jenny

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited December 2007

    Hi everyone,

    Just a suggestion for those of you with kids, maybe even for those of you that don't.  I have a 14 yr old and a 10 yr old and the three of us had a cancer free day.  I told everyone ahead of time that they were not allowed to call or email me that day with anything concerning cancer.  I was not allowed to go on line or talk about it at all that day.  We got movies, junk food, put on our pajamas and vegged all day together.  It was a lot of fun.  That was a couple of weeks ago and the kids are still talking about how much they enjoyed it.  It gave them, as well as me, one day to forget that mom is sick and just had fun together.  Just something I thought I would share.

    Keep laughing,

    Jenny

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    HI Sharon it took me over six weeks to be able to stretch my right

    arm as high as my good one. I thought at first that I would never

    stretch my arm all the way, It exhausted me just to dress. The exercises do work in the end I did them religiously. Hang in there

    and good luck with the chemo.

    Prayers and hugs ginnyintx

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    That was sweet, your right we have to resume life as was as much

    as possible and try and forget the C word.

    prayers and hugs ginnyintx

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited December 2007

    Hi Pennie I got red rashes and itchy after my first chemo round

    the nurse said I could take benadryl. I did not get that after the

    the second round. About the hair mine started to fall about 14

    days after the first chemo round I cut it to a buzz and have yet to shave it. I have bald patches and everyday I say I'm gonna shave it and I've yet to do it. I've cried alot about it but then I tell myself

    hey I'm alive.  we will get our hair back. prayers and hugs

    ginnyintx

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