Chemo in Nov 07
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Hello out there! My first chemo was Mon. 11/26 and I only had a couple of days of some major body aches and a little nausea, but that's about it so far...I only hope and pray that I can continue in this way!
Karyll, I am so sorry about postponing your treatment. That's my worst fear right now...It must be very difficult for you. But we want you to be at your strongest when you go into battle, so take heart and heal!!
Sueps, isn't the guilt terrible?!! I feel so bad for missing work for appointments, I feel like I've let others down if I'm not on top of my game at all times....Then I get mad for being so hard on myself. Why do we do that to ourselves?!
I am amazed at the collective strength in this group of women. Nothing like a *little* adversity to show us just how strong we are...
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dexamethasone is a steroid in the same family (I believe) as decadron...
Karyll
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Hello all,
Thank you for your prayers and kind thoughts. My first TC tx went well and I'm feeling pretty good right now. Just like I am starting to take a cold. I have a little mid-lower GI cramping and a tad of heartburn, but I'm not writhing on the floor in pain or throwing chairs across the room.....yet!
I posted a play-by-play of the treatment in the December chemo group conversation, but since I'm one of the last in the November group, I'm sure you're all painfully aware of the infusion procedure.
Lisa, I'm not sure what church they go to, but I know it's a presbyterian church. I need to check in with her soon. I haven't spoken to her since before my surgery.
Also, if you are starting a Taxotere regimen, they like to pre-medicate you with a steroid (thanks Karyll for fielding that one) to combat any possible allergic reaction to the Taxotere. It also helps with the fatigue as well. I'll stay on the steroid for the next two days and then stop.
How are you feeling, Lisa? Check in when you can. I'm anxious to know how your treatment went.
OK, time for breakfast. I hope everyone is doing well! Prayers for all!
Sharon
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I was surprised to find myself feeling more ill last night (tx was Mon.) Tummy was just not happy, and it lasted all evening & into this morning. I had expected any ill-effects to hit by Wed or Thurs, I guess, even tho I understand that everyone reacts differently. How has everyone else done? If you experience side effects, how quickly do they typically hit? I'm on a Carboplatin/ Taxotere regimen every 3 weeks with Hercepton every week. How's everyone else's experience with this going?
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I am day 13 from my first treatment and feeling very good this weekend. We are going to my husband's Christmas party tonight, hopefully the ice will clear some by then. We were going to go to Omaha today to get a wig because I think my hair will be gone shortly, but no can do - too much ice. I got my treatments moved to Thursdays so, hopefully, by Mondays I'll be ready to be back at my work.
I am so sorry to hear all of the problems some employers have been giving some of you. Mine has been wonderful and others are donating sick leave days to me. I was gone seven weeks when I had the mastectomy and TRAM reconstruction and now this chemo process. I've had five surgeries and "duh", it just recently dawned on me that the port will have to come out. Plus the fine tuning of the reconstruction... I'll think about that another day.
I love this site! I'm so thankful to be able to communicate with others in the same process. You are all in my prayers and I hope you are having a nice weekend. I, too, check here everyday. I feel like this is one of the things I do for myself to keep going. We all have to fight the good fight and hang in there.
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Hi all,
Karyll - so sorry you got delayed. I had my second treatment on Monday, but I thought I wasn't going to get it because my white blood count was too low...and I was really upset. Instead I'm having Neupogen injections for 5 days following treatment. Isn't it ironic that we want something that is going to make us feel horrible?
Sounds like it was for the best, and you're right...everything does happen for a reason. Hopefully this means you'll be feeling really great for Christmas!
Is anyone else having problems with constipation? Sorry...maybe this is just a little too personal?
Mia
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Hi Mia,
Don't worry about thinking that ANYTHING is too personal when it comes to treatment. I don't think there is one aspect of our lives that this disease doesn't touch, unfortunately.
I'm prepared for the inevitable constipation that chemo can cause. My doctor told me to take colace (over the counter) at the first signs. I was horribly constipated after my surgery and I thought that I could NEVER let it get that bad again.
My doctor said to make sure that I was getting excercise and drinking plenty of water. I was just outside doing a little yard work and I'm about ready to drown from drinking so much water. I'm ready to start popping those colace capsules any minute!!!!
Good luck!
Sharon
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Thanks Sharon,
I'm having a TERRIBLE time following my 2nd treatment on Monday.
You are so right...whatever you do be sure to take all of the precautions you can to prevent constipation. I can't believe what grief such a simple thing can cause.
Mia
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Constipation is nasty, I resorted to all kinds of things... but honestly the prunes worked the best... I drank a whole jug of prune juice 2liters I think.. LOL.. half a gallon for you'mericans.,, IT WORKED. I was a desperado....
Karyll
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Hi Karyll! So...how was that Christmas party?
So far so good with the TC treatment. It's day 2 and I feel a little spacey from the Emmend, I walk in circles due to the steroids (which means it takes me twice as long to do something because it's difficult to focus), I'm a little bit achey, and I still have that mild, lower GI cramping. Overall, I can't complain. I had visions of much worse.
I do have one side-effect that I'm actually HAPPY with...I have a nice rosy glow to my face and neck. Normally, I put the "P" in pale-face, so anytime I can get away with NOT wearing makeup, I'm happy as a clam. At first I thought I was coming down with a fever, but I seem to be lucky so far.
I'm putting together my shopping list this morning (prune juice...CHECK!). My husband is taking me to the store since the Emmend makes me woozy. We are also going to get a christmas tree. We've decided not to exchange gifts this year. We don't really NEED anything ourselves and the baby is too young to feel cheated by Santa.
However, I know that she will love the lights and I think that a tree would lift our spirits a bit. It may take me a week or two to get it decorated, but it will give me something to do now that I'm not working.
God has been good to me and so have all of you! Thank you so much for your prayers. You all are my inspiration!
Be well!
Sharon
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Hey Sharon, Wow, going to get a tree, I hope that means you are feeling pretty good today. That woozy feeling that you talk about was so annoying for me......when I would go to drive in my car, I knew that I probably should not be driving. Just didn't feel right. The feeling finally lifted a week after treatment. I couldn't shake the spacey feeling. Mia, one colace did the trick for me. Thanks Karyl, I put prunes on my shopping list too. I too am drinking the big waters like Sharon. My kids want to know how I learned to chug so fast.....only problem is that a bathroom must always be nearby ! You girls motivated me to start pulling out the decorations..........so let the festivities begin ! We have snow falling today, so it will be the perfect activity four our snowbound family.
Hugs. Cindy
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Hi girls, Just started my Chemo Nov. 30, 2007. I was terrified to begin, but kept the faith and it all went very well. Didn't notice much difference except that I was very tired the next day. Today is Sunday and I feel much better. Had some stomach aching and felt a little constipated, but even that is letting up. I'm worried about the hair thing. What can I expect? And how soon? I'm hearing 14 days out. I'm taking 4 treatments of the t/c. No lymph node invasion, but the small 1.2 tumor after the onycogene test proved aggressive. So this is what my treatment was based on. I have read your many posts and it's good to know we are not alone. Thanks for any information that you think may help me through.
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Hi all,
Started chemo on nov 12 4 cycles of a/c (done with 2) shaved head last wednesday,hair was coming out in clumps after shower!! I have 12 weeks of taxol & a year of herceptin. WIcked nauseous the first night, doc switched from aloxi to zofran, now barely any nausea just fighting the fatigue. I am not much of a scarf gal, pretty cold here in MI, so I just got a winter hat to wear inside and I wear it at work too. One of the guys at work is going to shave his head too, I never asked him to but that is cool (my first reaction was your wife is gonna kill me) I work at a radio station so they are going to do in on the air, or maybe live somewhere.
Mel
Can't wait til this ac is done, then I will feel like I am halfway done.
14 more chemo treatments to go!!
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Hi all im new to posting but have been reading here often.Let me give you a little bio of myself ,was diagnosed with dcis stage 2b in september of 07 i had double masectomy in october,where they surg did the sent node biobsy where 1/4 was positive so then they dexcided to take more nodes out and all came back clear nov 9 07 i have chosen reconstruction i had expanders in at time of masectomys im filling nicely a bit uncomfy but doable well on friday i had my first chemo session nov 30 my cocktail is tac for 6 rounds no major probs yet except that heartburn.but now got that under control ,i know its going to hit me just waiting hoping they all go this way but im realistic and know thats not happening.
prayers and hugs to all
pennie
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Hello everyone, I'm new to this site and wanted to say hello. I will be starting chemo the week of Dec 10th. A/C X 4;T X 4 once every three weeks followed by Her once a week for a year. I've already cut my hair short and have a wig purchased already. I'm a little nervous but reading the posts, I think I'll be just fine. I hope! Many blessings to all!!!
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Welcome katykat1, Mel, Pennie and sharont68! We're happy that you have found us, but, of course we wish it could be under different circumstances. Visit often, ask anything, share anything...we're all here for you.
Looks like we have a lot of us who started our treatments on November 30. Katykat1 and pennie...how are you doing today?
I think it was probably a combination of the weather and the sudden lack of steroids, but I felt very good until yesterday around 11AM. My grand plans of doing the weekly grocery shopping and buying our Christmas tree were quickly halted. I wasn't nauseous, but I felt like I had a brick tied to each and every joint. We decided to hold off on buying the tree, but the grocery shopping would have to happen. My husband volunteered to brave Wal-mart and Kroger on his own. I armed him with as much directional information that I could (turn down this aisle, top shelf to the left of the corn flakes) and off he went. What a man. In the meantime, I become one with the couch and drifted off to sleep for a few hours while the baby napped. I can tell that this is going to be the hardest part for me...learning that I won't be able to keep up my "normal" pace. I'm scheduled for the Look Good, Feel Better course tonight at 6 PM. I'll just have to see how it goes.
Another thing I've noticed is that I seem to do better when I eat a bunch of little meals. When I was pregnant, I did that to combat the nausea, but I think it's more of an energy thing now. I was up at 3:30 this morning eating peanut butter, jam, crackers, a banana and a big glass of milk. I felt instantly better.
Cindy? Did you and your family get the tree up yesterday? I'll have to live vicariously through you until next week!
Prayers for everyone! Be well!
Sharon
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Welcome to all the newbies! I must have picked up a virus from my mother when she was visiting last week, my weekend was spent sleeping alot and a very stuffed up head. Ohio is just getting the nasty high winds and ice that is to turn to accumulated snow later today, and I have to venture out at 2pm to see a doctor about an ankle I sprained almost a year ago that still hurts. I am sure with the chemo there is nothing she can do, but I would love to be able to take a walk longer than a few blocks without the foot swelling! I am coming out of my "cocktail coma", I should be getting better with more energy every day from now thru my next tx on 12/13.
Crystal- we are on the same cocktail, the first cycle I crashed on days 4-7 with horrible fatigue and lower gi issues. I just finished #2 and it lasted more to day 9. I guess 5 days out of 21 is not bad considering what they are pumping into us! I would be feeling pretty good today if I didnt have this head cold.
I hope you all are doing well with minimal se's.
Cheryl
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Jen44 (Jenny)- are you still out there?? I've been thinking of you and praying for you, hope all went well for your holiday and that you are doing well now "in between" the tx! Drop a line if you can -
Janet
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Hello sisters, Cheryl, we are now getting that windy winter weather here in Jersey, next time try to send it a bit further north ! Never got the tree, between snow, basketball game, homework, never made it to tree farm. Will try again this Wednesday when my dh has off from work. Georgias mommy, hope you have your energy back today. I came out of my chemo coma about 9 days later, and now feel almost 100%. I will enjoy it until #2 on 12/11, TC. Hoping I will again be good in a week and ready to enjoy 12/25 ! Today is day 14 and still have all my hair. Kids ask me each morning if any fell out. Mel, with what do you recommend to shave your head? I did cut my hair short a few weeks ago, but am unclear what is best when it start coming out in clumps. Did your co-worker do his hair yet. Power in Numbers ! Very much loved Sharon, great to meet you. I get tx the day after you, so let's keep in touch and get eachother through. Let's try to enjoy this week ! Hugs to all ! Cindy
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OK...sorry Karyll...I was having a CHEMO BRAIN moment when I asked about your company Christmas party. I completely misunderstood. Sheesh.
Ginnyintx, Jenny, Mia and Jay66, how are you doing? Apologies if I've left out anyone. I'll chalk that up to the chemo fog too! Check in when you get a few minutes.
(((((hugs))))
Sharon
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Hi guys, sorry not to check in more often. Been feeling pretty yucky this week but starting to come around. That second treatment was a doozy!
I'm so sorry that some of you are sick. You have enough to deal with, you don't need any extra yuckiness (is that a word?)
I just started taking Neupogen shots everyday for 5 days, starting 2 days after treatment. My insurance doesn't cover Neulasta, which I understand would be just one shot. Oh well...at least they have something like this so that we don't have to miss our scheduled treatments! I hope it works.
Do the US-girls automatically have Neulasta included in your treatments? With me it was only because my WBC was so low after just 1 treatment.
I also noticed that some of you are having Herceptin at the same time as the chemo. I'm not going to start until chemo is done. Need to ask the onc next time...why?
Sharon - I really need to try your strategy of eating small meals regularly. Hope you are feeling a bit better today. It's so hard when you are a go-getter and you don't feel like doing all your normal stuff.
Hope everyone is doing well...
Mia
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Cindy - my kids asked me everyday too. Kind of funny. Is your head really sore? That might sound weird but mine was sore from about day 14 - 17...then it started coming out in clumps. I pulled most of it out (I had already cut it really short), then used my husband's clippers to shave off the patches that were still there.
Sharon68...our dx are very similar, and within a few days of each other. Good luck with your first treatment in December and please keep in touch and let us know how you are doing. I read a lot of the posts too before I actually started posting. It's really a great group, very therapeutic to talk to others who are going through this too. We are here for you!
Mia
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Thanks Sharon and Mia for the welcome. It's getting close now and I'm getting more nervous. I had my bone and muga scans done and out the way. My onc called to tell me that they both looked great. My catscan is tomorrow. I've recently noticed three swollen nodes above my collar bone. My husband thinks that they are swollen because they are being overworked. I hope so. I'll know tomorrow.
Mia am I reading correctly, you started losing your hair after the second treatment? I haven't broken down since being dx ...even after the mastectomy, I shed no tears. I think going bald will send me over the edge though! I just want this done and over with.
Thanks again ladies.
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One more thing ladies, my onc said that because I had the mastectomy I wouldn't be doing the rad. At my dx I was told that I would have 6 mos of chemo followed by 6wks of rad and 1 year of Herceptin. Is anyone else getting rad after chemo?
Thanks ladies.
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Hi Sharon68...great news on the scans! No, my hair fell out about 18 days after my 1st treatment. It was a weird soreness on about day 14 (who would guess hair could hurt). Apparently this is how you know it is about to fall out.
I also cut my long hair off beforehand, and bought my wig. I only really wear it when I go out. When you are laying around or feeling crummy, you don't feel like wearing it...just a hat or something works.
At this point, I'll be having more surgery, then rads, then 1 year of herceptin after chemo. I only had a lumpectomy & sentinal nodes with the first surgery but am told there will be more surgery. Think I'm going to push for a mast. even if they don't suggest it. I just want to know that this is GONE. Maybe that will change my need for rads? Not sure.
Do you have a port?
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So far, I am supposed to have rads after chemo due to my positive node status explained the Doc. I don't know really what the percentages are without it - but none of that will start till the New Year, so we haven't really gone and discussed the details. I should be done chemo end of January (providing there are no more delays) then I understand it is a 4-6 week break prior to radiation. I have to commute 1.5 hours each way for radiation daily 5 days a week for approximately 5 weeks and that is really all I know at this point.
I am guessing there will be a lot more discussion before that actually takes place LOL.
Karyll
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Oh I forgot to say that I had a right mastectomy in August, and now I am half way through 6 treatments of chemo. I start Taxotere next week which was supposed to be last Thursday but I had a cold sore, so they would not do the tx. Hopefully I will be all healed up by then.
Karyll
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Hey Janet - Sorry it has been so long since I posted. It has been a rough couple of weeks. I did really well the first two days after my treatment and then I couldn't hold my eyes open for almost three days. I would literally be talking to someone and fall asleep. Needless to say the kids thought that was a hilarious. I slept through the Thanksgiving holiday. Once the constant sleeping subsided the dizziness started. That lasted for a couple of days. I did have a good day on Tuesday, but that night my nose starting bleeding. I was watching TV with my daughter and it just started to pour. I hadn't sneezed, rubbed or picked
my nose, and it just started pouring. After about 45 minutes and no sign of stopping we called my onco who told us we needed to get to the hospital right away. My nose bled for 2 hours and 20 minutes. Needless to say it was a little sour. The next morning while I was getting the kids ready for school it started all over again. This time it last an hour and 25 minutes. My onco got me into an ENT that day. He told me that two veins in my right nostril had burst. He had to cauterize my nose and I have to go back in four weeks to see if it has to be done again. He told me my nose was in rough shape. Unfortunately I have always had weak veins in my nose and the ENT said the chemo just made it that much worse. Wait the fun hasn't ended, because of all the nose bleeding and not being able to blow my nose because of cauterizing it I got a sinus and upper respiratory infection. I was put on antibiotics and I am feeling much better now. Needless to say it wasn't a fun couple of weeks.
Sharont68 - I am also having radiation once I finish with 6 rounds of TAC. I had a double mastectomy with positive nodes on both sides. My onco said she knows that I will have rads on the left side because the five positive nodes were, in her words "really yucky". We are not sure about the right side, which had three positive nodes.
Hey Susan - glad to hear things are going good with you. My next treatment is Dec. 10th. Isn't that the same as yours? How is the hair. So far I haven't had any signs of it coming out, but I am sure it is coming.
Hey Karyll - I am sorry that you had to delay treatment. Like you said, maybe it will turn out to be a good thing because hopefully you will be having a good week come the holiday. I know it sucks that we have to try and find the bright side, but at least you are able to do so. You have such a great attitude. Like I have been telling everyone around me, "either we let the cancer decide how it is going to handle us or we have to decide how we are going to handle the cancer". Here's to letting cancer know that it doesn't get to have the control!
Sharon - I just wanted you to know that I love that you have the picture of your daughter on the sight. I smile every time I see her. She is so cute! Thanks for sharing her with us.
Well I hope everyone is having a great night. You are all such wonderful ladies and I consider myself blessed to be a part of such a great group of survivors!
Jenny
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Hi every one just touching in. Wow, hi to all the new comers this is a great thread. So sorry to all you sisters that are having a rough time
hope you all recovery quickly before the next round. I have to have rads as well when my chemo is finished, will they do that while I'm having heceptin every 3 weeks? I have 2 more a/c then suppose to do taxol every 3 weeks with hercp weekly. Then after that i start the 3 weekly hercp. Hope I make sense half the time I don't think I do, lol.
Well trying to get ready for xmas have a big week next week, graduation for my daughter then xmas concert and book sales for school next year ( you buy text books cheaper ) and in amongst it another chemo hit. Plus they wont to give me a shot of neulasta. Well take care all may all things go smoothly. Hugs to all.
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Wow, it is amazing what a few hours can do on this roller coaster we are on. Took my shower this morning and my hands were covered with hair. So much for the hair doing okay comment earlier. I am having lunch with my dad today so I am trying to keep my hands away from my hair, so I don't loose as much
I will probably go ahead and shave it tonight or tomorrow. I swear it is driving me crazy how much loosing my hair is bothering me. I mean loosing both my breasts, and I use to be a full D-small DD, didn't bother me as much as loosing my hair. I know that it will grow back, but it is still screwing with me a lot. I really hate that I can't seem to get past the sadness of loosing my hair. I had already cut it short a few weeks ago so mourning the length has already been taken care of. It just really sucks that it took me over 40 years to appreciate my curly hair and learn to love it only to have it taken completely away. Oh well, I know I am not the only one that has had this happen and sadly will not be the last. Just another thing to get use to. At least I am around to get use to things. Thanks for listening.
Jenny
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