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  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007
    Well, I've had 11 treatments out of 33 at the "Glow 'n Go" plant.  The treatments are Monday through Friday and I chose to go at 8:30 am each day.    The time it takes for the actual treatment is minimal.  The routine is that I drive to the Dubs Cancer Center which is about 5 miles from home.  I have my car sticker that allows me to park in the "For Cancer Patients Only" area.  I then check in at the front desk.  I don't have to sit in the main waiting room.  I go immediately to the gown room to don the usual clinical gown that doesn't fit.  I made a treatment top for myself.  Quite lovely and cozy warm.  I sit in that room with beautiful handmade quilts with pieces in memory of women that didn't survive the journey.  There are numerous books on encouragement, spiritual enlightenment, faith and hope.  There is usually another woman waiting and immediately you're bonded.  Many of the women have clearly undergone chemotherapy prior to the start of the radiation series.  They wear scarves.  Their faces are drawn, though they make attempts to smile.  Every age, every size, every kind of look in their eyes.  We all wish each other well.  Several women completed their series of radiation since the time I began of November 12.  They leave the room with a new sense of confidence and hope.  A hope they'll not experience recurrence and not have to be in that room again.  A technician comes to the gown room to escort me to the treatment room.  I walk down the long hall, turn the corner and all I  see are bright yellow signs warning me of the radiation hazard.  I then walk into the treatment room which is cold.  Not only in temperature, but in appearance.  I lay down on the steel table and I am positioned to have the rays go where they're supposed to.  Talk about trust! A huge machine, showing red lasers, comes over my body.  The technicians leave the room!  Wouldn't I like too as well.  Each of the three zaps last about 30 seconds.  I can't feel anything and there is only a slight sound effect.  The technicians help me sit up because my back is frozen stiff.  I then walk out of the treatment room and head back to the gown room.  I dress in street clothes.  I check out.  I walk to my car.  I sit for a moment and the reality of having breast cancer overcomes me.  I walk through the fear, take a deep breath, and thank God for all I have.   With gratitude to all of you for your continuing love and support! Ruthie    
  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2007

    11 down. Flippin' exhausted. I'm asleep by 10 every night which is totally out of the norm for me. My husband came home from his business trip & it was all I could do to give him a quick kiss before collapsing again.  

    My head is in such a fog. I've made a couple of mistakes at work, nothing insurmountable, but totally out of character.  A co-worker just said that others will remember things for me.

    Called the medical family therapist at the cancer institute & made an appointment for this afternoon. It will be good to talk to someone about all these feelings. The black hole beckons and I don't want to go there.  

    On the plus side, my breast is a bit pink but no burning or peeling.

  • 2dogsnburg
    2dogsnburg Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2007

    Ruth,

    You say it all so well . You touch my heart.

    Tomorrow will #20 for me and I can see light at the end of the tunnel! 

         Terry
     

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2007

    thank you Ruthie for putting into words what we all go through. I never see any one else in the gowning room. It would be a great help to share the daily experiences with others going through it.



    PSK, It is so nice of your colleagues to offer to remember for you. I had to take medical leave from my teaching job. I am exhausted, but mostly my thinking was goofy. Now it really doesn't matter if i walk into the room three times before i remember what i was looking for.



    20 down, 15 to go. I hope it goes well for you all. I am definitely turning into a real red neck..who would have ever thought it?

    Steffi

  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited November 2007

    hello all!

    well, 21 down 7 to go, I should be done next friday 12/7. I have developed a small blister right on my bra line, so no more bra for now; and also a small blister in my pit area. The onc gave me some stuff called Radi-Gel, it's mostly aloe-vera. It seems to help. I just keep telling my self, one more week, one more week. Hope I can hold out!

    Hope you're all felling well!

  • labhusky
    labhusky Member Posts: 177
    edited November 2007

    Ive had 3 now.  I can get a little pink but I think it fades some especially at night.  Maybe its because I take my bra off.  Doesnt hurt and it doesnt feel hot.  Ive been doing pretty good about getting to work afterward at a pretty descent time.  I have been taking half hour lunches.  Monday, I also made up the extra 10 minutes that it took me to get there.  Tuesday, it took longer because it was dr day.  I thought only 2 treatments why bother but didnt say anything.  I got to work an hour later.  Took a half hour lunch and didnt feel like making the rest up so I put a slip in.  Today, I was only a half hour late so the lunch thing was all I did.  I figure, while I can and feel up to it, I will go ahead and make up time.  I think though on Fridays, I will splurge and not do that though.  Got to give myself a break and I am good about doing that.  Its my choice at work what I do, so they are being lenient with me.  They better, they wont want rad rage.  Love that term and I will use it at work. 

     Have a couple days off in December off too and I am looking forward to that.  That might give my the psychological lift I need when and if I start feeling too tired. 

    Ive got to admit, this might be a good time to get rads, with the holidays and days off.  Theirs holidays for us through Feb.  I work for the court and we get alot and we are in the good months now.

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007

    It's Thursday and that means I get to chat with the onc doc.  I don't think he'll be able to answer some of my questions, or he'll simply preface his response with, "typically..."  There isn't anything typical about breat cancer or each woman's experience.  I'm glad to report that I haven't had much pain, BUT - I cannot complete a thought and have a total lack of interest in stuff.  Time to go for my zap. Ruth  

  • 2dogsnburg
    2dogsnburg Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2007

    Hello Ruth,

    Have you thought about asking your dr. for some mild antidepressants.I started to take welbutrin after the 1st full week of rads.It was at my drs. suggestion so I must have looked as bad as I felt.Although I did not really think I was depressed,I must say I feel a lot better these days.After today I will be in single digits!The radiation has been much harder on my mind than my body.It sure is hard to stay in denial when you pull up to a cancer center every day!I have never been one to take medications in my life , but at this point I would do any thing just to feel a little bit normal.

       Good Hopes,

            Terry

  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2007

    I met with the medical family therapist before my tx yesterday and let it all out. What a relief!  I'll see her each week and try and get back on track.  For a type-A, do-it-all, have-it-all woman, acknowledging illness is the hardest thing I have ever had to do.  Taking care of myself is job 1. She volunteered to send a note to my rad onc telling him to listen when I say I want to take most of December off. (I have the leave built up, so it isn't a problem.) 

    The boob is definitely getting pink and it looked like there was a little blister on my incision line.

    Doctor day today. Yesterday was another x-ray and distance measurements.  13 down today!

    Ruth, take care of yourself.  I hope it all goes well.

  • 2dogsnburg
    2dogsnburg Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2007

    Great News Burguie!!!

    Sorry I missed your post earlier.Wow , only 7 more days!!!Wa Hoo!

    Please let us know what its like on the other side.I think you will be the 1st to finish. Lucky  girl!

         Good Hopes ,

               Terry
     

  • nevaeh
    nevaeh Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2007

    Going today for my 5th round!  Cried and was mad as hell after the first two - don't ask me why.  It just hit me I guess--you know that I have bc and had to be there at all.  It has gotten easier since.

    I seem to have a lot of muscle aches and pains that the onc doesn't seem to associate as a SE of rads, but why else I'm having them I don't know.

    Feeling a little sore, but no redness and trying to get the aloe vera on every day at least twice.

    My support group is still with me, but very few of them, if any, seem to understand how I feel.  I get the distinct feeling that everyone thinks I'm ok because my bc was "only" Stage 1.   Most everyone fears and understands the se's of chemo, but when you talk rads to them they seem to think it's a walk in the park. 

    I don't want pity, or even compassion.   I just don't want my feelings to be dismissed.  I express my true feelings less and less, because nobody seems to understand why I am still afraid.

    Sorry to be in the dumps -- its gray outside.  I think I need some sunshine (that,  or a very large glass of wine Wink)

  • 2dogsnburg
    2dogsnburg Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2007

    Nevaeh,Radiation is HARD and you have a right to your feeling.

    Here you are heard and understood. Vent any time!

    WE hear you and you will not be dismissed. 

    Have a glass of wine ...but if you need something more for the anxiety ask your doc for some ativan. 

     Been There,

        Terry 

  • Xantippe
    Xantippe Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2007

    I am checking in! I had my first radiation Nov. 14, I now have 25 more to go. So far so good. For me radiation is easier than chemo. I live 10 minutes from the hospital. The Cancer and Wellness Center is very pleasant, and I am in and out in less than 15 minutes. I have a question for those of you who are ER+/PR+: Have you started the hormone treatment yet, or are you waiting till after radiation? My med. onc. and rad. onc. are leaving it up to me. I am not sure what is best, and would appreciate some input!

    Lise

  • DebbieK
    DebbieK Member Posts: 116
    edited November 2007

    Lise, I am ER+/PR+ and started Arimedex at the same time I started rads.  It hasn't seemed to bother me.  I have had 17 rad treatments so far.  I agree radiation is sooooooo much easier than chemo.  Thank goodness, huh?

    Take care,

  • h2jhawk
    h2jhawk Member Posts: 1
    edited November 2007

    I am so happy that I found this group.  I started radiation 2 days before Thanksgiving.  I am from South Carolina but am having treatment at Duke. I have wonderful family support but they are not here now.  This is all very tough!  I am Stage 3C, ER+/PR+/Her2+.  I have 2 types of breast cancer.  I had bilateral mastectomy after neoadjunctive chemo.  The left was a large tumor Her2+, but was not in the nodes.  The right, not Her2, had 2 small tumors with node involvment, over 10 positive.  The left was almost obliverated with TCH but the right did not respond.  I study a lot and the current news is that ER+ does not respond to the taxanes.  There is doubt that there is very little response to any chemo.  They are talking about doing Adriamycin after radiation but admit that there may be very little benefit.  I am afraid of the heart toxicity associated with Adriamycin.  I am back on Herceptin every 3 weeks but Arimidex was not offered until after radiation.  After 15 years of HRT, I am anxious to start hormone suppression.  I have had slight nausea past radiation tx.  So far my enegy level is alright except on the day I had Herceptin.  I am 60 and grew up during the Cold War.  We had air raid drills and scary films about the bombs coming with the horrible radiation.  Now I lay under a machine receiving radiation.  I told someone today that the great part of cancer fear is the treatments.  We do get through them but our life is altered.  I greive the active life I once had.  I was a ballroom dancer!  Now I enjoy watching.  Thanks for this subject.  I will be glad to hear how everyone is doing.  Janice   

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007

    Hi -- I'm ER+/PR+ and have not started hormone treatment yet.  I meet with the med onc on 12/14 to discuss his recommendations.  I won't be done with rads until 12/28.  I'm NOT sure I want to do hormone treatment.  But, I don't have sufficient info to decide.  From what I hear and read - the hormone treatment can be pure hell.  Can't say I want to jump at that.  I need to educate myself, but my brain is in overload right now.  I, too, remember the drills of having to duck under our desks.  Seeing the films with the obliteration by radiation.  Makes one wonder.  And, now, the stuff about CT scans!  Sleep well all!  Ruthie

  • nevaeh
    nevaeh Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2007

    I had one onc prescribe Arimidex for me to start before rads; my second onc said it was up to my radiation onc.  My radiation onc said to wait until rads were done before starting.

    6th round today.  A little nausea, some soreness, lots of nerve pain yesterday.

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2007

    Got my markings for my boosts, I don`t start them till Thurs. but they did today as my Dr. will be on vacation next week.

    Hard to believe I have 11 left to do but I`m pretty burnt and they are keeping a close eye on me, really aloeing up as I don`t want a pause in there to heal up, just want to keep going and get it over with.

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2007

    Hi All,

    I have been on arimedex since august. I began rads at the beginning of November. I noticed no difference in my arimidex SE since the beginning of rads. RADS are soooo much more difficult for me than chemo.. I think it is the daily reminder that I have this bloody disease. Wiih chemo I could pretend all was well after the first week of each round. Fourteen more to go.



    Hugs to all!



    Steffi

  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited December 2007

    14 down!  A whole weekend off of rads; hoping to get some energy back.

    Steffi, you're right - it's that daily reminder that gets to me, too.

    The techs I have are great - upbeat and pleasant, which makes the tx themselves bearable.

    I'll be thinking about tamoxifen next.  There are so many pros and cons, just like with rads.  The med onc was not terribly in favor of it, but I don't know if the benefit to me would outweigh the risks. Brain overload.

    Happy weekend everyone!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2007

    I agree that the treatment for everyone is so confusing.  Due to a very low Oncotype score (11) I did not have chemo and will complete radiation then do AIs for 5 years plus.  My breast surgeon (considered to be one of the best in the US) is handling the entire treatment along with the radiation onc.  It is so confusing to talk with others who have a different treatment.  As far as the rads, I am at 20 and have only the slight redness.  Good luck to everyone.

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited December 2007

    We're STILL November "rad girls" even though it is December!  I had hesitated to count down my days, but I have and yippee - I will be done by December 28.  I'm feeling pretty foggy and fatigued and doing goofey stuff (more than usual).  It was a calm week end and I think I got some rest. It is hard to tell.  It has been very cold so it felt good to snuggle up with my cats.  Here's sending love and light to all!  Best, Ruth

  • LisaKJ
    LisaKJ Member Posts: 27
    edited December 2007

    Hi all,

    I finished the "double zap" on Friday (25 treatments) and now go in for 8 boosts starting today--hurray!

    When I went in for the simulation last week, the technician told me that they wouldn't bother with any tattoos this time, they'd just draw the markings on me.  I'm also getting quite peely now, so they gave me some foamy bandages to put on the more sensitive areas.  Well, to make a long story short, they drew on me, told me not to scrub that area to keep the drawing in tact, stuck on the bandage, and wouldn't you know, when I took off the bandage to shower this morning, I took off a whole layer of dry skin, including most of the markings!  I have no idea if they'll go through with the boost today, or send me back to the simulator.  How annoying!  Oh well, at least it doesn't hurt.  Looks pretty raw, but it doesn't hurt. 

    My mind is in a...relatively....good place at the moment.  I'm not as tired as I was two weeks ago, which is great.  I certainly feel less dragged down and am starting to think about what I'm going to do with all the extra time I'll have in a couple of weeks! 

    Sending you all healing (and cooling) vibes,  Lisa

  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited December 2007

    Hello All!

    Well, I started my LAST week of rads today! I will be done on Friday, and let me tell you my skin cannot wait! Not only do I have a raw irritated area by my bra line, my armpit is killing me! I saw the onc this morning and he said to just keep lathering it up with the radia-gel stuff...... and hang in there. He said to also try and keep the area as dry as possible......... easy for him to say!

    Anyways, hope you are all well.

  • labhusky
    labhusky Member Posts: 177
    edited December 2007

    Im jealous of you burquie!!!!  I am only starting my 2nd week ARGHHHH!!!  So far so good skin wise. 

    Lisa is that normal for the boosts then about marking you all up?  See, Im already thinking of those and my boosts dont start till Jan 8th. 

    Kiwikan  I feel the same way about hormone treatment and am really thinking about not doing it at all.  The drug itself is a carcinogenic, and their are alot of quality of life issues at stake for me.  My father had a stroke so I am afraid of that, plus other things about it.  Its like I would worry like mad just after swallowing the darn thing.  Thats no way to live.  Of course theirs that question of what if the cancer comes back if I dont take it BUT the flipside of that for me is, What if I get another cancer or stroke or osteoporosis?  Thats just the way my mind works.  I am a what-if worry wart by nature and my mind keeps on ticking.

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited December 2007

    I am also Er+/Pr+ and I started Tamoxifen a few days before I started rads.  I felt like the sooner the better as it just makes me feel better - like I am doing something to fight this.  So far, I have no noticeable side effects.  I was already having hot flashes from chemo and they do not appear to have gotten worse.

    Rads are still being kind to me.  No redness yet.  I'm putting on cream twice a day.

    It's nice to hear that some of you are finishing. 

    Have a great day everyone!

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited December 2007

    I start my 8 boosts on Thurs. so only 10 more to go.........Yeaaaaaaaa

    I am peeling for the 2nd time and my husband asked me how many layers of skin do you have....lol

    I`m pretty well burnt and was told that larger bust women have more burning than smaller, I find the nipple is so tender and am using aquaphor on it, the onc nurse told me it will take about 2 wks. for the burns to heal after rads are done, I start on arimidix after rads and not looking forward to it, been doing a lot of reading and it scares me, somtimes I think we are better off not knowing all of this stuff.

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited December 2007

    Hugsssssss Clessie. I don't have a breast but I burned a lot. I too only have ten more to go. We need to celebrate soon. I have been on arimidex since august, and haven't really noticed too much. I have had two short hot flashes and sometimes my bones and muscles ache, but it is bearable. It is so much easier than rads or chemo.



    Good luck Connie , May the time pass quickly.



    Steffi

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited December 2007

    Thanks Steffi, hope I do as well on arimidix as you are.

  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited December 2007

    15 down!

    When I finished my exercise class at the gym today at lunch, I was so exhausted I thought I'd cry. I got back to work and there was a big box on my desk - a gift from a co-worker, with bath gel, energizing face spray, hand lotion, and aromatherapy oils for "sleepies and weepies". That started the tears. It was so nice and unexpected.

    My mom "suggested" that my girls fix dinner (they were off school today), so when I got home from rads there was chicken, broccoli, pasta and a nice glass of wine waiting for me. Then mom brought over homemade bread pudding. And hubby took DD#2 to her music lesson.

    All in all, a wonderful comfort day.

    Take care all 

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