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  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    Ginny,

    I hope all is going well with you and your hair loss.  I know this was one of the hardest things for me, I work as well and I really thought I was going to lose it when it began to fall out.  As if the chemo is not hard enough on us we have to lose what little we have left that makes us feel good about ourselves.  Good luck and hang in there.

    Roxygirl everyones experiences with chemo are not the same.  My first wk of chemo I was always so tired but by the second wk I was back to myself again.  Although, I am not sleeping all night long which is really hard on the body.  I have tried sleepers but they just don't work.  I don't have a problem going to sleep it is staying a sleep.  I think it might be the steroids.  Good luck and hang in there.

    Yes Jenn, I do feel lucky to be almost done with chemo.  It will be a nice X-Mas even though I probably will not have the energy as well as no taste buds still lol.  But that will all come back in time. 

    To all of you ladies just remember one thing.  There will be a light at the end of the tunnel.  I know you probably don't want to hear it because it really is not a good time, but when you are done it will be so nice just to feel you can move forward with your life.  The last couple of txs. you will be looking forward to your end date to move forward.  I know I am.  My Mother-In-Law thought that I should post-pone my last chemo tx on the 21st of Dec.  Hell no, I am going to have it, no need to post-pone there will be plenty more X-Mas and I don't want to pro-long it for anything.  I am so looking forward to that end date.

    Love to all of you ladies.  I know this journey is not an easy one, but we are survivors.  Happy Holidays as well.  Will keep you all in my prayers.

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    Georgia,

    I have a wonderful boss he tells me just to work when I can.  I would rather not have worked through this but it has helped me to keep my mind off of things.  I don't know if WV employer rules are the same as california, but you should look into them to see what your rights are. 

  • sue_blue
    sue_blue Member Posts: 416
    edited November 2007

    Hi all,

    You are all so wonderful with your encouragement and responses. Today did go quite quickly; lots of new patient information. I go tomorrow for the Lunesta shot also. They gave me so high powered anti-nausea meds to try to be ok for my kids coming home for Thanksgiving, some are out of state at college and haven't seen them since summer or the diagnosis. It's called Emend.

    I'm going to the place with the Cancer Society wigs tomorrow to see how that will work. I'm blond now, and I'm thinking I might be a redhead for this treatment. I tried a red wig on at a high end salon and loved the color it gave me. Couldn't really afford their wigs so hope this works.

    I'm going to try to work, I was thinking maybe back next Monday. They said I could probably work about 80% of the time. My work has been wonderful; I teach so I think it's hardest on my students. The do want me back which is a good thing.

    I, too, have been incredibly blessed during this journey. I didn't know so many people cared and some are so thoughtful in the things that they do. I had been going to Jazzercise and they sent a large box of frozen dinners to pull out whenever. My church did a lot when I had the bilat mast and recon. The message yesterday was on Joseph in pharoah's prison and bad things happening to good people. It certainly hit home. I am so thankful for so many wonderful friends and family... and my new bc family here.

    Love and prayers to all of you,

    Sue

  • Karyll
    Karyll Member Posts: 235
    edited November 2007

    We already had Thanksgiving here in Canada but I have been thankful since before then and continue to be so. I have had love and friendship from the least likely sources and found out sadly in some cases who the real friends are or are not. I know I am showing a different person than I used to - no facades, no being who I "should" be or who "they" think I should be. I get to be the real me. I am pretty cool (kewlll mom, says my teen). I finally learned how to live in the moment. Rather a harsh way to get the message but if there is one thing I will impart to anyone that ever asks - it is to enjoy each day like there is no tomorrow. (If the cancer don't get ya, ya might get hit by a bus anyway) That may sound morbid but to me it is the best gift I have ever given myself - and although I have to drag me exhausted piano butt to work every day, I am so grateful to be able to do that at all. Georgia'smom... my work made that insinuation too - they were worried about me meeting my "obligations" during treatment. Three tx later I am still going strong (well errr.. you know what I mean) and now they just ask how am I doing? instead of, you sure you can do this? I guess, as they are a business, I am a bit of a liability... I told them I don't intend to miss any work - will work flex hours if I have to but I don't intend to get the flu, or break my leg, or slip on the ice either - there is always the unexpected in life and anyone of those things could happen to anyone of them too. I am meeting more than my obligations (I am a stubborn capricorn workaholic) but they were the only one that put questions in my mind about "what if". Now I just think.. NOW IS and right now? I am making it and sometimes, I fake it till I make it - but I am also very real about where I am at, who I am, and what I am about in here <----- SO the point of this was something or other that chemo brain has robbed from me for the moment - oh yeah.. I am thankful for many things - and all of you is definitely one of those things! many of those things? hehehe, I don't know how to pluralize y'all! There that works.
    Karyll

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited November 2007

    thanks jdg1 I feel better today I cut it real short myself today.

    Happy Holidays to you and I am so Happy for you almost done

    with chemo yea!!!!

    Hugs ginnyintx

  • ginnyintx
    ginnyintx Member Posts: 44
    edited November 2007

    Hi my3girls Yea your done with chemo, thats so great!  I will take your advise and keep active and rest when needed and keep looking for the light at the end of the tunnel.

    Hugs ginnyintx

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    Georgiasmommy- i work for a fortune 100 company at a very fast paced technical job; I am out on disability.  I have offered to come in on part time. Due to the intermittant, part time status they would rather i stay home and get well.  My dr did sign papers that due to medications, stress, and chemo brain I may not be able to do my job.  It was all or nothing, I would rather be home than be forced to work thru it all.  I do get my regular salary, I just have my days that i am bored stupid and I worry about my work and how it is being handled in my absence.  I have been out since 10/9 for my surgery and all the staging tests.  In all honesty, I am learning to put into perspective that my health is more important than a "job". My manager and direct supervisor are awesome, they want me back asap as healthy as possible. They just do not want to be responsible for any secondary infection or to hinder in any way my recovery. I do understand their business decision.

  • Jen44
    Jen44 Member Posts: 631
    edited November 2007

    Hi everyone,

    Had my first TAC treatment yesterday.  Lasted longer than expected, 5 hours, that  was with no complications.  Thank God for no complications.  Was tired and achy, like a cold about to start, last night.  Took some Tylenol PM and that helped me sleep.  This morning I woke up with nice red face, chest, and arms kind of like sunburn, but doesn't hurt.  Don't need any blush at the moment Smile  Also have a slight rash on the right side of my chest.  My nurse thinks its because I am still healing from my double mastectomy, that was a little less than 3 weeks ago.  I also have some mucus build up, so taking Mucinex every four hour, watching temp. and making sure no coloration to mucus.  Have had a small amount of nausea, but nothing that has stopped me from eating Wink  Energy level is still pretty good, haven't felt the need for a nap yet, and I do say yetLaughing  Sounds like a lot, but I am actually doing good.  I go for my neulasta shot this afternoon.  All in all everything is good.

    Cheryl - I hope you are feeling better.  I am going to get me some pumpkin pie today, that sounds sooo good.  I am not looking forward to losing my tastes, that is the best part of eatingLaughing  At least it won't be forever and the benefits definitely out weigh the sacrifice. 

    Sue how did things go for you yesterday?  How are you feeling?  You are in my thoughts and prayers.

    georgiasmommy- unfortunately I think a lot of employers try and do that just to cover their butts.  Don't let them make you take the leave unless you really feel like you need to.  They are thinking more about how it is going to affect them instead of thinking about your needs.  Don't let them do that to you.  You will know if you need to take the time off, and you may, but you should be allowed to make that decision and not them. 

    Keep laughing everyone.  In the end we will get the last laugh.

    Love to all,

    Jenny

  • sueps
    sueps Member Posts: 2,266
    edited November 2007

    Hello Everyone xxx

    Hope you're all having good moments xx

    Karyll...your last post .... hit a thousand nerves in me...and made me feel warm in every way ...right from the way you go to work to how this has changed you .... and I can relate to that as if I am looking into a mirror....Your words always give me strength .... and a smile within xxxx  Thankyou ! X

  • IamGods
    IamGods Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2007

    Hi everyone -

    I hope you are having good days, my last few have been really rough.  The Neulesta after-effects are killing me!!  I know it is for keeping up your white blood cell count.... but I am seriously wondering if I can do without them.  The muscle/bone pain has been really bad - I'm taking percocet now for the pain and it helps, but puts me to sleep.  This is day 3 and 4 after chemo and it is knocking me totally down.  Has anyone heard of others who DON'T do the shot??  I need to speak to my Dr. about it...

    Also, having problems finding things I can drink (because of bad taste in mouth) - eating isn't too bad, but drinks are much worse and I know they are so important!!   Tried ginger ale, ice pops, coke, orange juice, etc.  They all taste really nasty! Any suggestions??

    Jenny, so glad your day went well yesterday - and I hope it continues to go well with you!!

    You are all in my thoughts and prayers!

    Janet 

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    IamGods,

    Have you tried any milkshakes?  Also, I am not sure where you are from but are there any Juice Shacks out there?  Someone told me that they felt Juicy Fruit gum helped them get over the bad taste in the mouth.  I have not tried it myself so I am not sure.  Maybe try some Lemon in your drinks and see if this helps. 

    I did not have pain from the Neulesta shot but have heard others say that.  What type of chemo are you having done now?  I am having Taxol and I know this is causing the pain in my body. 

    Good Luck

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    Ginny,

    Glad to hear you are doing okay.  Also, that you took that step to cut your hair short.  I know this is really hard on you, but it will get easier I promise.  I know what you are going through as I went through it back in Sept. and really thought I was going to have a nervous breakdown.  I think the hardest was for me to go out in public with a wig on.  I had natural curly blonde hair and none of the wigs out there looked good with the curls so I went straight and darker in color.  Good Luck to you

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    Sue Blue,

    Getting a red head wig reminded me of Damn I hate this chemo brain.  Desperate Housewifes don't know if you watched it but she was going through chemo as well and wripped her wig she is a blonde in the series, went to the wig shop to have it repaired and had to get another wig until hers was fixed and she went the red head.  Her husband enjoyed having a different wig, reminds me of what mine said I can have a different woman every night and not even get in trouble for cheating lol.  My point is enjoy yourself and have fun with it.  Why not. 

    I went a different color as well, figured what the hell nothing to lose and I actually go straight hair the first time for me.  I am hoping that my hair will come in straight because they do say some woman get curly hair.  Well who knows.  Whatever it comes back as I will be greatful at this point. 

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    Janet- The neulasta shot pain only lasts 3-4 days, so you should be thru the most of it.  It is worth it!  My dh went thru chemo 6 yrs ago without the shot, and it was very hard to keep everything sterile so he wouldnt pick up an infection and he had zero energy.  Had to take a 2 hr nap after his morning shower! The shot builds up both red & white cells so you dont hit bottom without energy or immune system.  There are alternate shots you can do yourself that are lower doses, ask your onc about them.

    I found out the hard way (hours sitting on the potty sick) that chemo made me lactose intolerant so I cannot do milkshakes, etc. but I make 4c green tea and it goes down easy.  Since I am diabetic i buy the "light" instant.  it doesnt have any carbs or calories so I drink my 100oz a day without a problem.  I also bought some sour gum and it works to take the taste away.

    Jenny- I am glad your tx went uneventful.  I crashed hard on day 4 and was a dishrag until day 7.  All i wanted to do was sleep for 3 days! But, by day 8 i was feeling alive again and by day 9 almost normal.  We are all different but prepare for the worst and be surprized by the best.

    Cheryl

  • sue_blue
    sue_blue Member Posts: 416
    edited November 2007

    Jdg - I looked at the wigs the cancer society had to offer yesterday and they looked like animal pelts in a box. I may bite the bullet and go back for the more expensive red wig. It could help my mental outlook. I have been pretty depressed lately and teary. This is day 3 and I am just having some nausea and tiredness, not horrible, but not great.



    Janet - I have been drinking an herbal tea called Red Zinger. It's about the only thing I can get down. I used to drink water with lemon, but it gives me heartburn now. I ground coffee this morning for a friend who came by, and it almost made me sick. I've only been able to stomach some tapioca so far today. I am somewhat worried about Thanksgiving with the family. I've always done everything. I guess it's time for those young adults to step up.



    Do you all try to dring 100oz a day throughout the entire treatment of just day 1 and day 2? I'm starting to hate liquids.



    Jenny - my treatment lasted about 5+ hours also. I think it's a bit longer since it was the initial one, but maybe not. I am so glad yours went well. Mine did too, except I did have a headache that night and had a very difficult time sleeping. Last night was much better.



    Remember all, even through this we do have a lot to be thankful for... the family and friends that love us and the care we are receiving for our disease, and the support of each other here.

    God bless you all,

    Sue

  • jdg1
    jdg1 Member Posts: 608
    edited November 2007

    Sue,

    You cannot get a good wig through the Cancer Society, I as well went to a wig shop, but got lucky because they were discontinuing there wigs so I got mine for 1/2 off still the cost was a little over $100.00.  Did you go to a Look Good Feel Better Class yet offered through the Cancer Society?  This is a really nice class and they give you a pkg of different make up that is probably around $300.00.  They will give you wig tips, make up tips and tips on how to wear scarves etc.  You might want to look into it. 

    Go Red!  If this will give you a better outlook please do it for yourself.  We half to find ways to make ourselves happy through this time.

    I am sorry you are not feeling well.  Did they give you anything for nausea.  I know when I was going through the AC I asked them to cut down on my steroids seemed like it helped.  I only felt bad really the first round as far as being nauseated then by the second treatment I was just really tired.  They also gave me Amend with the AC and I hear that you should not get a lot of steroids with getting the Amend because it just intensifies the steroids so I think I was down to 10 on the Steroids.  Now that I am on Taxol they have bumped me back up to full Steroids and not having any problems with nausea just pain. 

    I am so sorry that you are going through this but please trust me when I say it will get easier.  I go this Friday for my 2nd Taxol tx. and have 2 more to go and have never been more excited in my life.

    Happy Thanksgiving and Good Luck to you

  • crystal1
    crystal1 Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2007

    I will have my first chemo treatment the Monday following Thanksgiving. I hate to admit it, but I am freaking out about it. The unknown has always been the most terrible part for me..(worried so about the mastectomy & then found it wasn't so bad, etc.) Any advice for getting through the next few days?!!!

  • sue_blue
    sue_blue Member Posts: 416
    edited November 2007

    jdg - thanks for the encouragement. They did sign me up for the class and I plan to go, free high end make-up was enough to convince me. I think I will get the red wig. They did give me the Amend, too. Actually, fell asleep after I posted and was some better after that. I'm happy for you that you are nearing the end. Is Taxol easier to tolerate than the AC? That would be nice to think it gets easier. Are you still so tired?



    You have a Happy Thanksgiving and we'll connect again soon. Sue



    Crystal - This site is an awesome place for support and education about your disease. Lots of encouragement here and I'll be thinking of you and praying it goes well. Let us know how you are doing.

    Blessings,

    Sue

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    Welcome Crystal! i just had my 2nd tx today, rather uneventful.  dh and I went grocery shopping afterwards so I can cook turkey friday and he can live off the leftovers while I do the chicken w/rice soup on days 3-6.  I agree the unknown is scarey, and each of us handles the drugs our own way.  I am on tch because I am her2+, so you may be different. Days 1-3 I buzz from the steriods, by day 4 i am a wet dishrag on the sofa until day 7. Those days I take my compazine for nausea, the zantac for heartburn, tylenol pm to sleep, the dexadron has worn off as well as the premeds they give you in the iv. Take what the dr's have given you and eat what you feel you can. Drink as much fluid as you can also, you must wash the chemicals from your body. My onc nurse even told me to try and wake up during the first night to urinate, the c of the ac can burn the bladder if held too long. Usually in older patients but why take the risk? Find the thread on this link for chemo tips, there are fantastic tried and true ideas on there. It should be on page one or two, it gets bumped up for newbies to find it.

    Enjoy the holiday with your family! Your profile does not say where you are from, and if outside the USA, just enjoy life! Confusius say " the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step", I translate that to the "journey to the rest of our lives begins with the first chemo tx".  As you read the posts on this site, you will read that the light at the end of the tunnel comes rather fast if you do not focus on it. Keep busy, meditate, pray...connect with friends, but stay clear of secondary infections.  We are all here for you!

    Cheryl

  • IamGods
    IamGods Member Posts: 15
    edited November 2007

    Everyone,  thanks for the tips, I will try the juicy fruit gum, milkshakes and red zinger tea!  so far, hot and cold tea have been fine.  Even coffee this morning was good.  :)   I still had some muscle aches this morning, but definitely better.  Haven't really felt worn out or tired, except as effects from the percocet which I'm taking to combat the muscle aches!  Whew!  so much stuff!!

    Best to all - hope you're all enjoying a wonderful holiday time and RELAXING wiht your family.  Remember what's most important!  

    janet 

  • omyoga
    omyoga Member Posts: 12
    edited November 2007

    I went to a massage therapist who does lymph drainage and she cleared it up after a few treatments.  At first my arm was so painful she could barely touch it, even though you could not see any swelling.  I went twice a week for a couple of weeks until it was cleared up.  Now if I go for a massage she checks my arm and does a little bit of drainage if needed.

    omyoga

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    My dh took my hair down to a 1/4 inch this morning. I instantly lost 2lbs!  Today is day 22 after first tx.  I asked the onc yesterday why it is falling slowly, shedding like a dog, but lots still firmly planted. He said it was because i was on tch and not ac.  It is milder on the body and works a little slower.  My head feels a lot better, the scalp was aching like a too tight ponytail. I figure we will shave it over the weekend if my pillow has the little hairs on it by then.  I did post my new look, the first time I have seen all natural hair color for 30+ years!

    Happy Thanksgiving all, enjoy this day with your family and friends and take the time to count all blessings.  I am very thankful for these message boards and all my new friends.

    Cheryl

  • crystal1
    crystal1 Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2007

    Cheryl--thank you for the info & the encouragement! (right now, I need both!) I, too, tested HER2+ & it sounds like our treatments will be similar...will you go every 3 weeks? That's the plan for mine. Once it's a fact & not just hanging over my head, I think I'll actually feel better. But I don't usually do well with any sort of medication, so I am especially worried about this...I am hoping mine will also be "uneventful"! I already cut my own hair short, have a wig, filled my prescriptions, have the bottles & bottles of water....so on Monday, it's "blast off"!!!  Enjoy your holiday!!

    Crystal 

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    crystal- yes, I do my tx every 3wks on thursdays, did the 2nd on wed due to the holiday today. I do go for herceptin every week though, my onc believes it is easier on the body when broken into smaller doses.  It sounds like you are well prepared! I am sure you will be fine, you can come here for encouragement or just to whine, we love you no matter what!  And we understand what you are going thru.

    Enjoy the long weekend

    Cheryl

  • emmakeating55
    emmakeating55 Member Posts: 156
    edited November 2007

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!  Last year I tried very hard to not to be sick at my daughter-in-laws wonderful meal.  This year i had seconds and tried all three desserts!  You'll be amazed on this journey, and grateful will take on a whole new meaning.

    Good luck to all of you!!

    Emma from Nov. '06

  • jay66
    jay66 Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2007

    hi everyone just finished my secound a/c yesterday. Doctor umed and arred wether to have it as my blood count was low. But they went ahead and I have to have a blood test every 7 days to watch my count, they have ordered an injection to give with the next round.All i remember is that the doc said it hurt after. They wanted to up the steriods because of my nausea but i said no. So they have given me added drugs for the stomach. Personally i think just the chemo is enough for my heart without extra strain from steriods.I made this decion as i have to also have a year of herceptin after all my chemo. Have a happy thanks giving, good to see everyone coping as they can. Take care all of you.Hugs.

  • mrs7148
    mrs7148 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2007

    Jay66- I will be going for my newlasta shot today to up my cell count, I had it last time also.  It does make the bones hurt!  I actually asked my onc on my visit 11/21 for pain killer so I can get some sleep for the 3 days when I ache from it.   I only take the steriods for 3 days afterwards, then I take compazine for any nausea.  By day 7 I am feeling fine taking TCH. I get my herceptin weekly and they check my bloodwork at the same time.  It sounds like we are on the same journey together!  I wish you well these next few days.  I am still on my iv buzz from treatment wednesday, but I know that by tomorrow night I will start to crash for a few days.

    Cheryl

  • crystal1
    crystal1 Member Posts: 41
    edited November 2007

    Cheryl, would you like some cheese with that whine?!

    I, too, will be going weekly for the Herceptin....at this point, I can hardly keep everything straight as it's just words on my treatment list. When I can say "That one wasn't too bad...that one made me sick..." then maybe I can keep everything straight. I just want to get it overwith! (As I'm sure everyone does!!) But I do appreciate your support. Everyone around me has been great, but when they haven't been through it themselves, they just don't completely understand all of the fears, I think. If one more person who has absolutely no idea says "Oh, you'll be fine", I think I'll scream. Does that sound self-centered? I don't mean it to..

    Take care, Crystal

  • jay66
    jay66 Member Posts: 112
    edited November 2007

    Thanks for the support Cheryl, I have 2 more tx of A/c to go then i start hercepton weekly with taxol every 3 weeks for 4 rounds. After that I go on hercepton for a year with rads somewhere inbetween. They have order the newlasta for my next round. I will ask about pain killers. I'm due to crash tomorrow day3 after chemo hope I sleep the day away. Crystal I know how you feel I think inside of all of us we scream cause we have had enough, just hard to let it out as others around you that love you hurt enough just watching you and not being able to help all the time. Yes it sucks big time, but remember THIS TO SHALL PASS.Hang in there crystal take care your in my thoughts.

    Hugs to all you warriors.

  • georgias_mommy
    georgias_mommy Member Posts: 87
    edited November 2007

    Hello everyone!

    First, I'd like to retract a statement I made in my last post. I told Lou that I was "glad she joined us here" and just realized that didn't sound very good. I had read a post that she had written under the "taxotere and cytoxan" thread. she said that she was starting TC in November and was asking what to expect. I replied that she could join this Chemo in Nov 07 group since we had several members that were going through the same treatment. Looking back, what I should have said was "I'm sorry that you had to join this club, but I am happy that you found us." Many apologies if I offended anyone! 

    Thanks to everyone who responded to my question about your employer's and taking disability or working through treatment. Jen, I think you are right. I get the feeling that they are thinking more about how this will affect them instead of how it affects me. I had a baby a year and a half ago and they were falling over themselves to accommodate me. Now, instead of six weeks, I think they see this as "the beginning of the end". While that may sound WAY too morbid, a co-worker of mine passed away a month ago from breast cancer (right after my surgery) and she was in and out of work for several years. I can't blame them for being guarded, but it sure does feel like they've given up on me already. Karyll, I'm making you my chemo "career hero". I'm a workoholic too. It's not that I feel like I have to prove something to them, it's that I have to maintain a sense of normallcy for myself. You have maintained such a wonderful, and positive attitude through all of this.

    Cheryl, your new look is just BEAUTIFUL! I haven't seen my natural hair color for about 15 years. I'm looking forward to the change.Wink

    I hope all of you have had a wonderful, and restful, weekend with your families and friends. I find myself thankful for many new things this year...including every one of you. Thank you for being there!

    Sharon 

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