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  • MLizA
    MLizA Member Posts: 33
    edited November 2007

    Hi ladies

    I'm at 9 down and 26 to go... The thought of another 5 weeks is daunting but will be glad to be done with 2 weeks.  I cannot believe how fast I am in and out of radiation! I haven't turned red yet but do have some feeling of irritiation.  As I have said before I have developed some swelling in the underarm area and on the chest where the arm joins the torso.  I met with a physical therapist and she agreed with my rad onc that the swelling should go down after rads, they just cannot say how long that will take.  I just hope it doesn't get any worse.  The pt was very knowledgeable about lymphedema, radiation and bc surgery and she told me that radiation will most likely cause some limited range of motion with the arm on the radiation side due to under skin scaring.  She recommended that I stretch my arm several times a day to stay ahead of this during radiation.  Thought others may find that useful. 

     Ruth, great idea about making your own treatment gown, I think I will do that this weekend.  Hope you are feeling better and certainly understand the ups and downs.  Chemo or no, BC is such a hard thing to get your head around and keep it there.  Definitely many ups and downs.   

      I have to have rads on Sunday this coming weekend instead of the Friday after Thanksgiving.  That will give me at least a four day break for Thanksgiving weekend.  I just hope I remember!

    Best to all,

  • Katiejane
    Katiejane Member Posts: 789
    edited November 2007

    Hi Linda,

    Yesterday, I completed my rads.(25). It does pass fairly quickly and is much more tolerable than chemo!!  I watched the clock at every tx. and it took 7 minutes from the 1st to the last zap!!!  It took me longer to get re-dressed after tx. because I always put my aloe gel and moisturizers on the tx site. 

    I now have the swelling under my arm and where it joins my torso. I was also told that it would go away after rads.. I sure hope it does-it is pretty uncomfortable at this point. I do have a skin reaction going on-just a very itchy red rash but atleast it has not blistered. I'm pretty sure it will peel but I can live with that. It's on my upper back and chest but the worst part is around the collarbone where there is not much tissue to absorb the rads.  Keep up with the stretching and range of motion exercises. I find doing them in the shower after the warm water has loosened up my muscles is best. Do you find that everything tightens up in the evening?  I wish you the best with your remaining tx & recovery!   Chattie

  • arby
    arby Member Posts: 126
    edited November 2007

    I am so blessed to get this extra info about what to expect.  Seems that the techs don't really comment when I talk about my itchy upper back.  I know its related to the rads.  Also my nose hurts like its getting sunburn and even numb feeling like part of my breast.  Anyone else have this kind of reaction on their face.  Its the side turned toward the machine when I'm treated.  Sure wish we could wear protective shields.  Glad that time marches on in our favor. We're all getting through this.  arby

  • Katiejane
    Katiejane Member Posts: 789
    edited November 2007

    Arby,

    Every time I asked the techs. a question about reaction of my body to the rads, they told me that was a question for the Doc. Being in the medical field myself, I understand that they aren't allowed to answer those type of questions. So I made a list for my weekly visit to my Onc. Radiologist.

    I never had any reaction anywhere other than the area being treated. I would certainly insist on speaking to your Onc. Rad. about this as soon as possible. Occasionally during treatment, my L hand would tingle and go numb but it was because of the positioning(hands/arms straight up over my head.) Is it possible that your neck is turned at such an angle that something is being pinched?

    How many more tx do you have?  God bless!  Chattie

  • arby
    arby Member Posts: 126
    edited November 2007

    I watched Mc Dreamy too!  I think the rad fatique is quick to hit and then rest is soooo good.  I laid down for 1 hr and 40 min today and feel tooo energetic for 10 p.m.  But other days I've only rested for 30 min and thought that was too little for giving my body total healing time.  I look at my treatment and rest time as my new day job; its my job to get well.  Hopefully all you gals will take it on and give yourself permission to rest and not feel guilty or unproductive.  Just think of all the work our cells are doing , being very productive (and not distracted) when we seek quiet rest.  keep on writing. I'm at 13 down, 22 to go.   arby

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited November 2007

    Pam - Use the sick time! I tried to put on a favorite perfume I was "saving" today, only to find out it had turned bad. Boo! Live for today. Use the sick time. Use the perfume. Burn the candle. Use the china. What are we waiting for?

    Ruth - Aquaphor under hot water....ok.....i'll try it. BTW, good job on the self-made gown. Good Idea.

    ARBY - You tell your doctor about the neck/face redness. That can't be right.  And that got me thinking...(uh oh, someone get a fire extinguisher) why DON'T we have shields for our faces/necks? That's a great question. THEY leave the room altogether...I asked my rads dr about the possible damage to my lungs, and he said the same thing as the tech. It's such a small area that I really shouldn't notice it. Ok, the FOCUSED BEAM is hitting a small area, but what about any stray beams?

    Bottom line is I just can't worry about it, because I can't do anything about it. BTW, Arby we're on the same schedule. I did #13 today.

  • livingston28
    livingston28 Member Posts: 11
    edited November 2007

    Thanks for the replies!  Will keep trying to find more info.

    Suzette

  • garnetann
    garnetann Member Posts: 158
    edited November 2007

    Hi all

    #12 done this morning, 21 to go.  I go M, T & Wed, and Friday.  I was given the option of skipping next Friday, but I want to get it done and overwith.  Did anyone else get the choice?

    My doc showed me pictures of the exact area being radiated and said it is focused very tightly.  That is why they want you so still.  I imagine there might be a little stray, but remember, even when you get a regular x-ray, they leave the room as well. 

  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited November 2007

    #4 down. Met with the rad onc yesterday. He showed me the pictures of where they are doing the rads, what it's covering and more importantly, what it's NOT covering.  The targeting is precise enough that there is only a tiny slice of lung that is in the field.

    I then spilled 1/2 a cup of tea all over the floor.   

    No SEs yet, and while he says I'll sail through it just fine, I'm done for. It's not the treatments, it's that I've held myself together for 4 months now & I don't want to do it anymore. 

    I will go M,T,W,F next week. Thanksgiving off.  Much to be thankful for this year.

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2007

    I had the choice to not do Fri. but chose to go, want this over with, I did #13 today also and the fatigue has set in and nap a few hrs each day and drag the rest of the day.

    I signed up for a program called "Look Good Feel Better" has anyone gone to this, its for women who are doing chemo or radiation and told you get a lot of free "Stuff".

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited November 2007

    Hi girls! I got my tattoos today and so I am all set to start rads on Sunday.   The first tattoo hurt a bit, but the rest were in areas that are a bit numb from my mastectomy anyway.  I am looking forward to getting this over with.   After going through 28 weeks of chemo, I know I can do this!

    Have a great evening!

  • arby
    arby Member Posts: 126
    edited November 2007

          Connie, Best of luck with the treatments.  I call it my new day job and dress up for it.  You'll probably be on your way to something else and just stop off for treatments.  take it in stride and you'll be able to handle the eventual fatigue and slow down.  Mine hit after 8/9 treatments and I felt like a 3 yr old who missed her nap on those evenings.  So now I rest 30-60 min each afternoon. 

          God Bless us all for seeing this Thanksgiving and for our upward attitudes and our supportive families and friends and new friends.  I just love to hear what others are still doing, like aerobics and swimming!  I've been raking the yard and putting my flower beds to sleep for winter.  I imagine as I succumb to the fatigue it will take alot more inner pep talks to keep moving and exercising.  a little is better than nothing.  I found some chinese exercises at breastcancer.com that I've been doing.  there's gotta be more ideas of treatment options from other parts of the world.  But I'm glad we have the creams for the rad burns!! Have a good weekend.  arby

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2007

    Hi everyone,

    Happy Friday,

    I completed rad # 14 today. I was so fuzzy when I left that I couldn't remember what number I was on. Yesterday was a horrendous day. I put in 14 hours at school because of parent teacher meetings. It was rough. The wife of one of my colleagues was just so sweet telling me that she and her daughter were worried about me. I had a meltdown. How embarrassing. I hate it when some one shows concern--i just lose it. Then I think why am I feeling sorry for myself and I should buck up. BUT yesterday was so bad and my skin continues to breakdown that I decided to take some leave after Thanksgiving and give myself time to heal . It is almost a year since dx -- 12/ 27. No wonder I'm tired of it all. The fatigue is so insidious... You think everything is going ok and you are coping and then bam! the emotions are out of control. I recognize it as fatigue when my legs are so numb that I can't feel them. I am looking forward to some time off and allowing my sanity to return. Good luck to all. I got my Aloe Vera from Target
    Connie, you will do well, you are so positive. I feel as you do about getting it over with and have a similar profile. IDC 2.5 cm, Stage IIIa, Grade 3, ER/PR + Her2 + :mast, followed by three other surgeries. 30 weeks of chemo, and now 35 rads.
    Steffi

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007

    I completed #5 this morning.  I've been going through major melt down since Wed. 14th.  I, too, have been mostly holding it together since DX 7/2/07 and it's all finally kicking in.  I've been going to a local BC support group and yes, it is a wonderful group of strong women with great senses of humor - BUT, they also tell the truth!

    There are numerous women, who are 2-3 years out.  Their original DXs similar to mine and they "started out" with "only" a lumpectomy followed by either chemo and/or rads.  But, now as they sit across the table from me they tell of recent mastectomies either uni or bi plus more chemo plus more rads.  It scares me to think!  Dare I think?  I've been crying since Wednesday.  Only 5 days into rads.  Breast is already "complaining".  I have 700ccs of fluid. This is in addition to my already ample breast! Talk about heavy.   Doc hesitant to drain right now - prefers I wait.  But, I feel that the rads have created a large, hard and growing monster.  There's now a rash, which I was told I wouldn't see for weeks.  Did I make the right choice?  I usually can find some humor, but not tonight.  I'm really scared, really sad and I want it all to go away. Ruth

    And, further to all of this grief - tomorrow Nov 17, 2007 is Survivors of Suicide Loss Day and in remembrance of a dear friend, Michael (10-21-06), I will attend a local conference.   

    PS:  Pearl Bailey Quote:  You never find yourself until you face the truth.

  • Kimarene
    Kimarene Member Posts: 18
    edited November 2007

    Ruth, I can relate to how you feel.  I had lumpectomy on 9/12 and will begin radiation on Monday.  I am thankful that I didn't have to do chemo (at least, not yet).  But like you I am wondering (and will be forever wondering I guess) if it's going to come back.  I am also scared about the side effects of radiation, as I already have been through a staph infection of my breast (which hasn't totally cleared, even though I've been on antibiotics for more than a month), and I'm concerned that it's already having issues and don't know what the radiation will do to it.

    I'm also scared, really sad, and I want it all to go away.  Maybe we can help each other out with emotional support :)

  • LMJP
    LMJP Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2007

    Hi - it's like a century since I was going through chemo and on the boards. Started radio on 6th and developed cough three treatments in!! General physician and chief radiographer concerned - the latter even asked me if I wanted to stop! Finding it very hard here in Hong Kong. Have had chest x-ray (clear - no infection so cough/throat hoarseness due to treatment), and will see radiology oncologist Monday next armed with questions. As my cancer was removed in May, this is preventative. He has to reassure me the risks of possibly developing lung cancer down the road outweight the benefits of non-recurrence, or even be flexible to change the dosage and extend the regime, If not, second opinion required!! P.S. Pure vitamin E oil on breast overnight has kept any sking reactions away - so far.

  • LisaKJ
    LisaKJ Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2007

    Hi all,

    My first addition to this thread--wish I'd have joined earlier, but I just found it!

    I'm 15 down, 18 to go.  The fatigue has set in, but I don't feel it too badly until the evening.  My nipple itches like mad from time to time, and I have a tanned armpit and a rosy boob--lovely!  I use aloe vera and a cream that the techs gave me--Bepanthol (I live in Europe, and I don't know what the stuff would be called in the States.)

    Steffi, I'm a teacher as well, and I nearly freaked when I found out that my surgery was scheduled on Sept. 4.  I know that my health is more important than my job, but my first thought was, "Oh man, all those lesson plans!"  Are you a language teacher, Steffi?  If you are, you can imagine trying to think up activities for a beginning language class when your sub doesn't speak the language!!  Oh well...I took three weeks off and am still two weeks behind compared to last year, but I guess the kids will survive.  I got my rads appts. after school, which has been a blessing.  Enjoy the Thanksgiving break and get some well-deserved rest!

    Tracie in Germany, I'm living in Belgium, and I have the same bizarre appointment situation.  After the simulation, they gave me a schedule (most of my appointments were set for 5:12pm), and so far they have been changed every day!  When I turn up for rads, I put my schedule into an in-tray, and the schedule is given back to me after the zap with the time change made.  Usually, it's just a few minutes change, but they have to do some maintenance on one of the computers, so my Tuesday appt next week is at 8:50pm!  At least traffic will have died down by then.

    One last thing:  in Belgium, if you are diagnosed with breast cancer, you are automatically given three months sick leave.  Since I work for Americans, though, I only have the usual 10 days per year, so you can imagine how hard I laughed when my onc handed me the little permission slip to be absent for 90 days!  Fortunately, I had some sick leave saved up from previous years, but there's NO WAY I could take off three months!!

    I'm glad I found you girls--you make the journey so much easier.

  • lazeechic
    lazeechic Member Posts: 43
    edited November 2007

    HI

    I found I too will be having rads this month, my left breast, left top lung and middle back.  Apparently it is growing under my reconstructed breast just over the heart.  I asked about my heart, he said he would put a"bolis" under my breast which would make sure the radiation did not affect my heart.  After reading some of these posts I now have a lot more questions to ask.  I was a bit tired the day I met him and a bit stunned as  I had not expected quite so much.  Will be thinking of all you ladies in the next weeks.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    I have finished 10 of 25 rads. No problem yet except redness. 

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited November 2007

    14 down, 19 to go.

    A little red, the rash appears more like a contact dermatitis to me, (little pin pricks with wake-me-up-in-the-middle-of-the-night-ITCHY!) but they say it's typical to rads. Tech says my boob will be bright red by next week. (Good! hang me on a Christmas Tree!) And that everything looks like I'm right on schedule.

    Using Sween Cream, Aloe Vera, and 2.5 hydrocortisone creme. Can't say any of them work.

    I went to a Look Good/Feel Better class back in August. I'm sure there are classes that are wonderful, but I was pretty disappointed with the instructors at mine. It made me want to volunteer to do one. I'm not a licensed cosmetologist, but I KNOW I could do a better job than these women. I'd say go and see - hopefully you will get good ones.

    LMJP - I'd be very interested in what your Rad.Onc. says about your cough when you ask him. Mine thinks my cough is left over from chemo. Could be - but it could also be getting worse.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited November 2007

    Oops, forgot.

    They are closed the Friday after Thanksgiving, and told me they'll do me THIS Sunday (ARRRGGH...don't forget, don't forget!!) to make it up. So I'll have one day off in 10, then four days off in a row. The dr said those 4 days will really help with healing the skin.

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2007

    LISaK You are great to be able to continue to teach through it all. My fatigue has set in. Yes I teach spanish and I fully understand the lesson plan thing. I am planning on taking leave between Thanksgiving and Christmas. It is a way I can take minimal leave and be absent a lot of days. i should be over rads by then and the fatigue should be lessening. I am so thankful my schedule if that of "scoot in as soon as you can after school and you will be our last patient of the day." I think we are a little less formal in West of US.

    I am using Aloe Vera Gel. Sween Cream and a sample of Bifeen the nurse gave me. I have a bright red surgery site and several upraised brighter red spots that have broken open. 14 down and 21 to go. Yay I am 1/3 of the way done.

    Have a good weekend all.

  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited November 2007

    Just thought I'd check in....... well, I'm half way there! 14 of 28 down! Nothing to complain about yet really....... just a little itchy now and then; I will make sure I mention it to the doc on Monday, see what he gives me.

    Other than that, trying to get ready for the holiday rush! Never imagined last year at this time, the crap I would be going thru this year!! But as some have mentioned, we do have a lot to be thankful for!

    Hope you're all feeling well!

  • Poppy_Spruce
    Poppy_Spruce Member Posts: 150
    edited November 2007

    Hey, Ladies!

    Guess I am the new kid on the block - I just squeaked in here. I will start on the 27th. I had my simulation and ordered my Jean's Cream. It is bittersweet - I am so glad to be at this stage in my treatment but I am scared about more disfigurment to my breast.

    Bonnie, your words have echoed in my head since I was dx in May -One year ago, I never thought that this would be me...that this would be my life....I know that we have a ot to be thankful for - how many cancer patients would love for the chance for rads to be an option? But wouldn't it be great if we had somethig better than chemo, 6 1/2 weeks of rads and 5 years of pills? It is a long journey, that's for sure!

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007

    KIMARENE

    I just sent you a private email.

    And, to all others a "FYI"  I'd mentioned that I've been crying since Wed 14th, which was only day 3 of rads.  Guess what ladies?  I'm STILL crying at the drop of a hat.  Somethings aren't exactly undeserving, but my eyes are killing me.  I don't like wearing my glasses.  I'd like to put my contact lenses back in.  Maybe tomorrow for church?

    Take care all.  Ruth

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited November 2007

    That big thing under your chin is my shoulder, Ruth. You can cry on it.

    Big hugs and many Kleenex to ya.

  • 2dogsnburg
    2dogsnburg Member Posts: 79
    edited November 2007

    Ruth, all I can say is I'm sorry and there is someone on the east coast that feels the same.I've cried more since the start of radiation than in my whole life.I also got the news on July 2nd, my 49th  birthday.It's  Sunday morning at 8:00 and my rads appt. is at 10:15.Let the tears fall... it is what it is.

    Good Hopes,

    Terry 

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited November 2007

    Hi girls -

    Well, I had my first rads today - 29 more to go.  I wasn't expecting much, but it was even easier than I thought.  I was the first appt of the day and I was done and on my way home before my appt time even started!  I haven't gotten any cream yet.  I am supposed to meet with the nurse tomorrow so I'm sure they will tell me what they recommend then.

    Sorry you are going through a rough time, Ruth.   I feel kind of like Steffi.  I am strong and positive most of the time, but when I talk to someone new about it, I break down.  I ran into someone from my gym the other day and she didn't know as I haven't been going before work like I used to.  So, there I was crying in the grocery store as I told her.  Just when you think you are all cried out, bam!

    I hope everyone has a great day.  Looking forward to that turkey on Thursday.

  • LMJP
    LMJP Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2007

    Dear Katomato et.al, Saw Radio Onc this morning and he cpmpletely dissed the idea that cough and throat due to radio!!! OK, have chest x-ray that is clear and physician who has done all standard infection-rlated treatments, and it is purely a coincidence that my cough and sore throat started AFTER I began radio, having never had such problems before??? Then the guy says;"Do you have asthma or rhumatoid arthritis?" No. And why didn't he ask me these questions two weeks ago? So I proposed that we vary the protocol and either do intensive treatment on incision area or Conformal Radiotherapy. "Oh, we'll do Conformal if that's what you want" says the Great Man! What I want - excuse me, this is a private medical system and I am paying him to tell me!! Gosh, can you tell am annoyed? As my surgeon and he are in same organisation, the surgeon isn't even answering my e-mails or message!

    Am now waiting for name of doctor at another hospital to consult for second opinion.

    Patient, heal thyself.....

  • kiwikan
    kiwikan Member Posts: 75
    edited November 2007

    LMJP ~ I too developed a cough and a raspy throat within a day or 2 of starting rads.  I told oncol on day 4 of this and he said. "I'll write that down, but it isn't likely rads have anything to do with the cough - the weather is changing you know".  What I'm finding, not only from the docs, but from rad patients is that if you are experiencing any kind of SE before the stats say you will or should - then you're probably looking to find "something".  Oh yes, I want to add pnuemonia or other virus to my health issues.  AND, speaking of other health issues...Anyone have Type 2 diabetes?  I'm told having breast cancer doesn't affect it!  I'm here to tell you that is NOT true and of course it does.  Also, my blood veins have risen to the surface of my skin, especially hands and fingers (do you think there's some connection in this being upper body?)  There's a lot showing up elsewhere all over my body.  I look like a blue paint ball hit me.  Think there could be a circulation problem.  Oh no - of course not - breast cancer and diabetes aren't a problem combination.  Gee do you think I'm annoyed like LMJP?  But, I have subsided my crying.  I said "subsided" not stopped.  I don't think I'll stop for quite awhile and I've decided that is okay.  Another thing that's bothering me is folks that say "ONLY having to have radiation is a piece of cake!"  A walk in the park its not.  I found a card the other day that says how I feel about those kinds of statements:  I meditate, I do yoga, I chant...and I still want to smack someone!  Here's to being able to stay focused on our healing.  Hugs, Ruth

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