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Hi Sue! One down!!! I'm so proud of you. I can't believe you told your boss you might be at work tomorrow! You are such a trooper. You know, I felt ok the day after (still had steroids in my system until day 4 or so), so you may actually be able to work for a while tomorrow. If you're feeling really yucky though, you'd better stay home! That's an order, young lady! If your body tells you to rest, you need to rest.
Take good care and have a wonderful evening. Try not to become water-logged
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Love and hugs,
Karen
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Hi Karen xxx ....I am so happy to see you ... water logged
....I am going to buy a teapot and drink gallons of tea....I am fed up with the water..blerghhhh.....
If I wake up tomorrow and don't feel up to it , I will call in... it is my day off on Thursday so hopefully I can hold up....
I have 2 days worth of steroids and the 'must have' anti sick....then I have some anti sick back up ..... how long before I MAY feel bad....oh my oh my...I am frightened
I am eating sweets at the moment..... and a bar of cadburys....
xxxxx
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Oooh, chocolate! You know what? I've never been a huge chocolate eater, but I've craved it during chemo (after the taste comes back). Do you have a weird taste in your mouth yet? I haven't had the metallic, but everything sort of tastes like cardboard. Finally today (day 7) things taste almost normal again.
You may have an entirely different experience, but I didn't start to feel really bad until day four. Day five has been the worst for me both times. I never felt nauseous or anything (the meds did their job), but I just felt like I had a nasty virus. Body aches and TIRED. Do you get Neulasta tomorrow to bring your white blood cell count up? If not, then your chemo probably isn't as toxic to the blood as mine. The Neulasta was so much worse as far as side effects than the chemo itself. I had an allergic reaction to it though, I think. Now I give myself smaller shots for five days after, and the side effects are minimal.
You know, I think tea is just fine as a substitute for water. I've been drinking lots as well. I've never been much of a water drinker to begin with, and now it really tastes awful with this horrible taste in my mouth.
I wish we were together, sharing the misery of chemo hell! It's so nice to at least be able to chat with you this way. I honestly don't know what I'd do without these boards. My husband thinks it's weird (but I think HE'S weird).
Much love to you,
Karen
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Sue, I'm soooo proud of you. I thought of you often today and praying you would do well. Good Job!!!
I had my treatments on Monday and started feeling the effects by Wednesday/Thursday. I would get very fatigued and not very hungry. I NEVER got sick - just make sure you take your meds on time - even if you feel good. But by Saturday I would be better.
Did they send you home with a list of potential side effects??
How great was it that you found the article on OZ!!! It was fate!! Just stay on the yellow brick road and you'll do just fine!!!
Poppy, hope you are feeling better with each passing day.
Karen - hang in there GF. My DH thinks I'm a little off my rocker for being on the boards as well. And he even had cancer a few years back!!! I guess its a guy thing.
My best to everyone,
Valerie
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So pleased to see you post Sue! I am sorry you are feeling a bit sick but I hope the anti-nausea meds and steroids will keep the worst se's at bay.
I am sure tea is a good alternative to water - after all it does have diuretic (spelling?) results so it should flush the toxins out.
How amazing that you found that article about Oz! It's a good omen!
Karen, it's horrible that you and Sue and so many others have to go through this chemo thing but so great that you can give each other support and knowledge. It is very comforting to talk to people who are walking a similar path.
Love and hugs,
gb
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Thanks for the support, Valerie and gb. It's not fun, but I'm managing better than I thought I ever would. I know Sue will be just fine too.
Valerie, I KNOW it's a guy thing. I just can't understand why it doesn't help them to talk about their troubles. I would explode if I held it all inside. Men are strange creatures.
Hugs to you all,
Karen
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Just had an hour talk with my son.....I love to bring them up to date emotionally ...so I know they're not anxious xx
I don't get neulasta...I may do on the cmf ...or on this if they think I need it...what treatment are you on Karen xx
Valerie they sent me home with potential s/effects but... no time scale...I have to take steroids and anti sickness for 2 days...I bet I get horrible when I stop them...xxx
Well just going for a cuppa xxx
gb..... xxx Good Omen is an excellent term to use...a good omen for us all... Please Please let's get through this and let's all have good outcomes. I am praying...... I would do ANYTHING for you all to be better...XX
Much Love xxxx
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My tastes are ok at the moment...but my eyes are dropping as its 11pm gone lol....
Shall I let you know how I feel tomorrow xx
xxx
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I'm doing TAC (Taxotere, Adriamycin, and Cytoxan). It's very potent and meant to kick some c@#c%r butt!! It's also very hard on the body. I'm so glad you might not need Neulasta. It's nasty stuff!
Sweet dreams, Sue. I'll pray for minimal side effects for you!!
Love and hugs,
Karen
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Poppy, congrats on the boobs! I'm so glad that you're happy with them. That must make things so much easier.
Hugs,
Karen
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Wow Karen...thats gonna kick c^%!r .....xxx
I am off to bed.....after 2 cups of cuppas ...lol...see what I typed then...my head is gone....
Sweet peas everyone xxxxx
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Hi Dorothy Sue
!How ya doin? Today is one of the best days ever. You know why? Because you can start counting down to the last chemo day , and it is now one more closer!!!
YEAH! I think gb has a great idea of crossing off the days. Get a bright emerald green marker and say " theres no place like home" and mark that sucker off! Oh Sue , you are on your way , you may feel crappy , but then again , you might not. But it is worth it. Beating the bootface is worth it. As all have said , hitting hard from the start is what you need to do. I hope you are home resting. But don't forget , all us little munckins are here dilegently waiting to hear from you.xxxx
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kim
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Hi Sue and everyone. Well , I don't know how long "chemo brain" lasts , but I'll use it as my excuse that I didn't click on last page to read ALL the posts before I posted!lol
Sue , I'm glad your home and getting some rest. You maybe able to go to work tomorrow. My worse days were number 3 and 6. Karen , good luck to you too. I will keep praying for you both. All of us.
Hey , I wonder how Shirlann is doing on her cruise!? I'm soooo jealous...
Poppy good to hear the "girls" are gorgeous. You deverve it! Becoming a flasher are you!?!lol I don't show my off. I still have to go for stage 2 and get a nipple. That sounds so funny to me. I only had one done with diep. I hope your pain is easing off. I will continue to pray for a speedy recovery.xxxx
Well , I hope everyone has a peaceful evening. Talk to you all later.xxx Melody
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Boo! Hello everyone xxx
Clickety click with the sparkly red shoes on a camera close up....lol...them steroids making me laugh and I am containing my flow of words...as I will extra extend this post if I am not careful...
Well I got 3 or 4 hours decent sleep last night eventually...I did feel like going on a bike ride....lol
I made it into work at 8 30 and left at 4pm....Had nausea since I woke....bad...all day...but I was just as bad when I was pregnant...I am assuming this isn't the baddest day ....
And at the moment I could kill for roast chicken...really bad craving...I have just had chickn soup.....but tmw I will have to get loadsa loadsa chicken soup and some chickens....
I am sick ...I am off colour ...and I am tired ...sad.... angry ... unaccepting...driven along...confused....I would say tonight I am ultimately ANNOYED and PESTED by the bootface......I am also still fearing the future...for my children badly....
Much Love xxx
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Oh and the sight of tea and coffee blerghhhhhhh..
What I want to know is if this is going to be constant or just X amount of days each time xxx
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Hey Sue...so impressed you made it to work today! Nausea always differs between us, but I think it's fair to say for the first three days or so, try to stay ahead of it by taking the anti nausea drugs regularly.
Yep, that's steroids, kinda makes you wish you had more of them regularly although we'd all grow mightily chubby.
It's good to see your picture: remember, this is laying that old bootface low!
Tender -
Melody ..lol....you are a blessing to me...... love Dorothy Sue xxxx
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Sue,
To answer your ?'s - the steriods drove me crazy. They kept my mind racing and it was hard to sleep at night.
I envy the girls who could drink tons of water - water tasted like crap to me and I could not drink it throughout the whole chemo process. I actually had a hard time drinking anything - EVERYTHING tasted like crap.
Ah, the memories........................LOL.
Valerie
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Valerie .... LOLOLOL
HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Will I feel sick every day for a whole 28 weeks then....
I cant stand the sight of water...in fact I have not been up to drinking much today...like I thought I would...
My eyes are burning and I think I have a water infection. I have a bad headache and my body is starting to ache....
When I stop taking the anti sickness in a day or so...will the nausea get worse....god I have a mountain to climb....
xxxx
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Hi,
Yes a mountain it is!!! And Im right there with the sick, tired, sad angry etc...
Ive been kinda pissed about the whole thing for a few days, I think Im feeling sorry for myself. Going to have pre op testing (more poking) tomorrow.
On the up side yiour nausea should not get worse and if it does contact your oncologist.
Kim
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thanks Kim ....I hope you have a better time soon...its so hard but all these moments do pass. Please keep posting....
Much Love xxx
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Sue, it's late and I'm posting. The mountain is in steps - first, base camp. That's where you were before yesterday - viewing the mountain and wondering how you were going to climb it. Now you have reached second camp, and next will be the third camp. Just a step at a time - don't look to the top or you will be discouraged, so one camp at a time. When you get half way through you will have reached the peak and will begin the descent to the other side. One step at a time.
The steroids are what give you the cravings - I wanted Burger King Whoppers - never eaten them in my life, but I was craving one and we drove miles to get one.
Keep taking your meds and if you still feel nauseous call your team for something more to help.
Wrapping you around with lots of cyber hugs for you and for Poppy. Karyll, Sunnee and all the sisters who are on this path. You will come out to sunshine and laughter, with the spring. Great to see you are delighted with the "girls" Poppy.
Keep well, everyone.
Valerie S
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Hey Sue,
I HATED the steroids. They made me so wired and jittery and I couldn't sleep the night after chemo. I still have to get steroids with my weekly Herceptin treatments (because I had a bad reaction to my first tx) but only 1/2 as much as I was with the Taxol and Herceptin. The only day I could eat was the day of chemo because I would get the munchies really bad... After that first day and night, I lost my appetite and was sick for about 3 days.
You are amazing that you went to work..... That is wonderful. Make sure you get the rest you need, though!!!!! Have a good night!
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Hi Sue
! I hope your sleeping right now and having sweet dreams. I went to see one of my best friends today after work. Her birthday is tomorrow. So I took her some gifts and we talked and laughed. Boy , I needed that. It made me wish I could come see you and bring you a BIG roast chicken! Yum-ma! I know what you mean about the water
! I started drinking crystal-light ice tea. That and fruit punch. Water and fizzi drinks just didn't agree with me right after chemo. I don't know how long your nausea will last , but it shouldn't for 28 days! Mine varied from tx to tx. I would take a strong anti-nausea drug for two days , then I think compazine for as long as I needed. Sometimes a week , sometimes 2 weeks.I remember always feeling better by the end of the second week after tx. Chemo , nausea and cravings oh my! Hang in there Dorothy Sue , the "flying monkeys" are circling but you will make it to the emerald city and the chemo will melt the evil bootface like water on a wicked witch!! Come on , sing with me , Some where over the rainbow...xxx Love you sister
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Don't worry,Sue. You won't have nausea the whole time you're having chemo. I'm lucky--my meds work so well that I've had no nausea at all. I stopped taking them after day 4 and still no nausea. It will get better....I promise. If it doesn't, you really need to contact your oncologist. Sometimes they switch you to different meds that you'll respond to better.
I can't believe you worked the whole day! You are absolutely amazing. Didn't they have any roasted chickens there for you to munch on
?? I pretty much eat only soup for the first two or three days after chemo...so that chicken soup was a good choice! Yummy for the tummy!!
Those steroids are something else, aren't they? I'm finally to the point where I'm getting a decent night's sleep...a week later! They make you loopy as heck, don't they? I've heard you wouldn't want to try it without them though.
Well, I had my visit with the onc today. My blood counts were excellent--yipee!!! Friday is my son's 5th birthday, so I'd like to feel ok about going somewhere with him for the day without being scared of catching a cold or flu. My dh is taking the day off from work and I think we're going to take him to the zoo. The fresh air will be good for me, I think.
I hope you're resting well tonight, Sue. Take care and check back in when you can to let us know how you're doing.
Love and hugs,
Karen
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Oh! Forgot to mention that my onc is switching my chemo to TC only. She reviewed my path report again and she thinks she may have been treating me too aggressively. The Adriamycin is toxic to the heart and can cause heart failure in the future. She doesn't think it's worth the risk for me to remain on it. I didn't argue with her!!
Hugs,
Karen
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OMG Karen....that is excellent news xxx I am so genuinely pleased for you ..... you are responding so well with your treatment and now they are reducing it a tad.... thats the best news since sliced bread! I am so glad to have you by my side xx
Taking your son out with your O/H sounds great...I loved my sons at that age....and all that fresh air to die for..... I wish I had a 5yr old son ...lol....you will have a lovely day.... and I will be thinking of you xx
Well I am feeling sick...but taking the meds...I have my last steroids later on and no more official sick meds. They gave me different back up ones....I will definitely ask to try something different...the nausea is borderline bearable...
I have just cleaned my car and done a few bits in time for the steroids to wear off...
I wonder what other effects of the first treatment are coming up....I have work tomorrow.... blerghhhhh ..... as long as this damn nausea dies down...I might be able to temper it...
Well I am crashed out for nxt few hours...gonna have my chix soup in a bit...it is midday here in the UK....
I hope and pray that these first time treatments bring us all lots more years of happiness..... xxx I WANT TO LIVE SO MUCH xx
I am still greatly looking forward to meeting up with some of you over the nxt few years..... You have all been my ROCK xx
Do you think I will crash in the next week....I have no idea whats coming xx
Much Love xxx
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Sue,
I am praying that you start feeling better. My mom never said much about how she felt during treatments to me except that eatins small amounts every 2 hours helped her overcome the nausa.
Poppy,
I got my new boobs Nov 2 and I also feel like showing them off. I will get my nipples done the 20th of December, then I will look closer to 'normal'.
Sheila
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Hi Sheila..so good to see you and so happy you are sorted xxx almost xxxx
Well I have had a bad day, with sickness ....blerhghhh...I only just made it to the local shop instead of the supermarket..and bought loadsa chix soup.Lots of vegetables for tmw after work...couldnt find any mashed potato though ....I got some beetroot and a melon...all these things are highly similar cravings to when I was expecting...and it feels so sad xxx
I have also been really preoccupied with the triple negative diagnosis AGAIN ... I know I know...I can just hear Shirlann now ..lol... I hope you are having a brill cruise my cybermum...I am thinking of ya !
Back to serious...when will the nausea go....I am so impatient...but I have finished my main nausea meds now.... no more...but they gave me some back up ones ...let me just see what they are called in case Tender is around...
Ok... my initial ones were ...ondansetron ...8mg twice daily.
My backup ones are... metoclopramide.. 10mg one tab three times daily...
Maybe I am just impatient....I WANT MAY 26TH TO COME ...last treatment...before radiotherapy.... but blimey to get through to May we have to go through Valentines and Easter and Mayday and all that...so it seems an AGE off....
Babbling again....I will go suck on a beetroot LOLOLOL
Much Love xxx
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