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  • PSK07
    PSK07 Member Posts: 781
    edited October 2007

    Hi everyone!

    Add me to the list.  I am scheduled for a CT scan on the 5th, then the set up & simulation to follow.  Looks like I'll be starting rads by mid-month. 

    I'm worried about this running into Christmas.  Never mind that I'm usually exhausted that time of year anyway.  At least this year I'll have a good excuse. Tongue out

    Pam

  • MLizA
    MLizA Member Posts: 33
    edited October 2007

    I guess I won't complain about my hour drive back and forth for my treatments ... 160 miles ... omigosh!  I worked from home almost 100% of the time I recovered from surgeries and chemo and will be trying to transition back to the office during rads.  My radiation treatments are on the way to/from the office for me.  I have yet to get them scheduled and that won't happen until after my dry run coming up.  I am anxious to get something on the calendar so I can start planning around it. 

      Debbi - my son is living in the dorm (Meredith) and plans to major in Biomedical Engineering (he wants to design artificial limbs). He loves Purdue!!

      I really appreciate everyone's advice on creams and such, I was told that the rad nurse will go over all that with me, but I don't know anything about what I will need yet!

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2007

    Well I got a lot more marks today and the tape is really itching me, I think I`m gonna have to go with the tattoo`s as I`m kinda senitive to tape, we did a dry run on the machine and have to admit its pretty scary but glad we did that as it won`t be so overwhelming tomorrow, so I`m ready to go tomorrow, this will be a Halloween I won`t forget.

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited October 2007

    Hi Girls,

    I went today for what I assumed would be a simulation...but no, it was a real-ulation. Hmnnn. They said they simulated LAST TIME. (Well, where was i? Was i scared? Did i have fun? Did i embarrass myself?  My simulated self must have gone in my place.) 

    I wonder if it has to do with the machines... people on this board are talking about dry runs, and all these appointments before anything starts - One day I met with the rad dr about a half hour for a consult. The next week I layed on the machine while they did a CT scan, took measurements, drew on me with markers, tattooed me and it took about 45 minutes, then TODAY i layed there - in a different room, different machine, and they toasted me. Badda bing. done. 10 minutes. So i wonder if the technique has to do with the requirements of the machine. Or if my doctor is just incompetent.

    Gives one pause.

    Kim - I'd be interested in knowing the answer to the antibiotic question too. I just started on Cipro for a bladder infection this afternoon. And i am not stopping that, period. The Cipro patient instructions say i'll be "sensitive" to sunlight, sun lamps etc. I asked the GYN, and the Pharm. about the rads, and both said they didn't think it would be a problem. I have yet to speak to the rads dr, though. They both deferred to him.

    He said I should do well for about a week, then weeks 2 and 3 the se's will start. Mainly redness, soreness in the crease under the breast, nipple tenderness. He told me not to wear a bra. (uh huh. Spoken like a true man.) The nurse suggested the all-cotton sleeping bras. That made more sense. I'm not lettin' these girls free, no way. They'd never come home again. He said the Aloe Vera jell is good 2X a day starting now, and it can be 99%, it just can't have any alcohol in it. If something that is troublesome arises, I can call, and they'll deal with it then. As far as deodorant, he said i can use anything on the unaffected side, but nothing on the zapped one. He also told me DON'T DIET. Now is not the time to deprive my body of nutrients. We want it to rebuild itself. (yeah man. Hand me the chocolate.) He also said not to take anti-oxidants as a supplement - it helps your cells, but it helps cancer cells too. What they're trying to do is kill everything, and they want the regular cells to regenerate. The cancer cells are not able to do that. He just stressed a good, balanced diet.

    My rads facility is literally RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER from my work. I get to sneak a little exercise in my day walking there and back. The whole thing has me out of the office for one hour total. Pretty nice after driving 2 hours one way to my infusion center every 3 weeks. That's why I chose this place. That, and the "state of the art" machine. I just hope the dr is good.

    So, the count-down has begun. 33 - 1. (uh oh. Sounds like math...)

    I wonder what they do for the holidays? Do you skip? Or just blast through?

  • whoablaze
    whoablaze Member Posts: 26
    edited October 2007

    katoMato, I have just learned more from your post than my entire 6 appointments so far with my radiology team.  Thank you!


    Clessie, I had tape when they measured me the first time, but I'm with you...it itches, and the tech told me it's not healthy for the skin.  They have yelled at me, though, every time I've been in, to use more powder...up to 10 times a day.  Hmm...could it be that, since I'm 33 and have 34D's, that they might rub and marker could come off?  Do they think all we do is sit around and powder our bra-free breasts and wait for our husbands to take care of us?  Ha!  Ok...to be fair, they are German.  In this country, if you're sick like we are, you don't have to work and the government pays for you.  I work for the US government here, though, and it's very "American-way!"

    I asked about creams...they told me I could not use creams, only powder, and I would not have any reactions to 6 weeks of daily rads.  Is that possible? 

  • conniehar
    conniehar Member Posts: 954
    edited October 2007

    Thanks for all the details, Kaye.  Very informative.  I was told I would have a dry run, too, but so far I just have my scanning appt.

    As far as the holidays, my center is working on Sunday the 18th so that they can get Friday off.  So, I may start that day.  Then I would have 4 days of rads and have 4 days off.  I was wondering if they would do something similar at Xmas because it is on a Tuesday everyone will want Monday (Xmas eve) off.

    My mom told me she saw on the news yesterday something about extra rads reduces your recurrence rate by 49% and for those under 40 it is 50%!  That's huge!  I went on the news website and all it said was an extra dose.  What does that mean?  One extra day?  I think anyone would do that for that kind of reduction.  I haven't been able to find the info anywhere else, but I did only spend a few minutes.  Did anyone else hear this??

    Good luck to whomever is having tx today!  I can't keep track of us all!!!

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited October 2007

    I was zapped today also so 1 down 32 to go, I have a rash under my breast that Dr. ordered some cream to use, I was afraid

    they were going to cancel, but everything went on schedule, this tape is really itching not to mention the rash, so looks like I`m getting off to a good start.

    The machine was pretty quiet, was hard to tell when they started and when they ended, I`m sure I will get tired of this routine before its over.

    My rads onc. meets with me every Wed.

  • Kimarene
    Kimarene Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2007

    Hi all -

    Katomato, I'm on Keflex and my planning session is tomorrow.  I asked the rad nurse about taking antibiotics for a breast staph infection and having rads at the same time.  She asked the doc and he said that by next week, when they actually start zapping me, this infection should be cleared up.  If it's not, they would postpone.  (Before the nurse understood that my infection was in THE BREAST, she implied that just taking antibiotics in general is okay while on rads.) 

    Luckily, this infection seems to be responding and probably is not the resistant staph strain.  Jeez - this should never have happened!  I know it was caused by the injections of radioactive isotopes for the SLN biopsy.  I was a little loopy on Valium when those injections were done, but I sure don't remember the nurse swabbing down my nipple area with antiseptic before pulling out her syringe and injecting me four times around the nipple.

    Anyway, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't scared of this whole radiation process.  I will have to commute 45 min. each way for my treatments, but I am not working now, so I guess I will look on this as a job of sorts.

    One of the hardest things is knowing who and what to believe, making the right choices. 

  • shenry
    shenry Member Posts: 19
    edited October 2007

    I just had my 7th rad today, 23 more to go, so most of mine will be in nov. So far, so good.

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited October 2007

    hi . i'm new to the boards, but not to bc. Just had my first treatment yesterday. Today they put something on me called the bolus and quite casually said that they would be doing it every other time so radiation could be drawn closer to skin.. Does anyone know anything about this?

  • Charlie451
    Charlie451 Member Posts: 69
    edited October 2007

    Hi November rad group. I signed on for October but my rads actually start tomorrow. The October group are mostly wrapping it up now so I thought I'd jump in with you all, too.

    I had the positioning session today. They just scoot you around on a sheet and you have to be a dead weight while they position you and mark you. On the ceiling above the rad machine in this place is a nice back lit photo/mural of snow covered mountians. Hmmm, could that be the Grand TETONS??

    I'm a little anxious about this but want to get on with it so that it will all be done by Christmas for sure. Not sure yet how I will deal with Thanksgiving dinner at my house. Maybe I can assign jobs to everyone if I'm feeling tired out.

    Thanks for letting me jump in here. Hi to Bonnie and Garnetann from the June chemo group!

    LindaC

  • camnyc1
    camnyc1 Member Posts: 3
    edited November 2007

    Wow! What a big group!

    I went for my sim today. I was surprised how involved it was! Got my lovely "tats" too. They tell me the doc will call next week and maybe I can start the first of my 28 tx Thur or Friday!

    Other than the skin issues, has anyone heard about any other side effects? After reading all the comments about heart involvement, I'm concerned. My bc was on the left side and very close to the chest wall but nobody mentioned any potential cardiac issues. What exactly are you all hearing may happen to the heart???

    Good luck to one and all! We WILL get through this one way or another.

    Blessings to each of you, Chris

  • Ggma
    Ggma Member Posts: 97
    edited November 2007

    I went in for my first sim and CT scan today.  I now have purple marks all over my left side.  It's a lovely look.  I'm allergic to tape so they couldn't cover the marks...just told me to be careful.  I'm not sure how to "be careful" for a whole week, but they said just not to "scrub" the marks.  Whatever!  They were really great to work with though.  I can't complain about any of the sim at all.  They said that they'd call me sometime next week so that I can come back in for another sim to make sure that they have it correct before they actually start the rads. 

    Chris, I did ask the rad dr today about the heart issues and she said that it was the combination of AC chemo and the rads.  She said that it probably wouldn't be any kind of an issue right now, but there was like a 5% increase in chances for problems later in life. Come to think about it, she really didn't say what kind of issues.  I guess that I figured that 5% was low enough and later enough that I have bigger things to worry about right now! 

    Gee Charlie ~ Grand Tetons?  All I got above my machine was some of those little stick on glow in the dark stars (was this to remind me that I too may glow in the dark after 25 tx and 10 boosters???) and a plastic spider for Halloween!

    Kaye ~ this is the first time I've actually gotten yelled at for losing weight!  I finally found something good about cancer!  I've lost about 30 pounds and have been eating anything that sounds good.  Unfortunately, not much has sounded good lately...even chocolate.

    Sedosa ~ I have never heard of a bolus so maybe Kaye can find something out.  She's our little research scientist!

    Have a good rest of the week ladies!!!!!!!

    Debbi

  • burquie
    burquie Member Posts: 129
    edited November 2007

    Well, 3 down 25 more to go!!!

    Sedosa, I'm having the same thing every other day...... this is what I have been able to research:

    High energy x-rays are skin sparing. Because some BC requires a need for skin irradiation because of skin involvement by the cancer cells, the addition of tissue-equivalent bolus material placed over the radiation field can circumvent skin sparing. Bolus, a flabby, rubbery material, is used to 'fool' the radiation beam so it will deposit the maximum dose on the skin surface instead of a fraction of an inch deeper, as it would otherwise. Therefore, a skin reaction is almost inevitable in this scenario. Bolus is usually incorporated into radiation therapy when a surgical scar, such as a mastectomy scar, needs to receive a full dose of radiation therapy.

    Hope this helps to answer your question.

  • kel1
    kel1 Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2007

    Hi Gals,

    Looks like its been a busy day for us!  I'm right there with katoMato...nothing as bad as I expected.  The marking appt. on Monday was easy - more 'double-checking' x-rays today, then zap...5 min. later I was officially cooked!  My rads onc said to watch for skin SEs about 2 weeks from now.  He also recommends Aloe Vera 100% 3-4 times a day...and going braless for the duration.  Easier said than done, since my good boob is a 42D...so tired of not being harnessed, but can't stand a bra on the mastectomy side just yet. 

    Sedosa, I also had a bolus applied today - had not been previously discussed, but will certainly ask when I see my rads onc on Mon.  Thanks for the info, Bonnie.  Clessis, sounds like we're in the same spot...1 down, 32 to go!

    Bless us all......

  • readeram
    readeram Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2007

    Hi ladies,

    I went for what I thought was my simulation appt yesterday because they said plan on being there 2 hours but all it turned out to be was going thru the paperwork which I had completed in advance and meeting the doctor and nurse. I was in and out in less than an hour. They said I needed to have a post surgery mammo to make sure they got it all and the CT's but received a message that they are scheduling the radiation planning on the 7th. I just wanted to get this started and over with and I'm not for sure when they will actually get started. The nurse told me to get the Udder Cream, I asked about Jean's cream and she said it was expensive. I don't mind paying the money if it works better. Has anyone tried both and prefer one over the other? Hopefully by the New Year we will all have completed our treatments.

  • smckgilbert
    smckgilbert Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2007

    Hello Ann and everyone,

    I was diagnose with DCIS Stage 0 Intermediate grade had surgery on September 13th...I started rads on October 17th...Just finished my 11th treatment...actually getting through the paperwork and gettting started took longer than I would have liked. I too was ready to get started.  I've been using the Udder Cream and Aquaphor; however my doctor just suggested something that is aloe vera based called natural care gel by bard...he says I can request it through the pharmacist hoever you don't need a prescription.  I like the Udder Cream...but I'm ready to try something different.  I see you're in Toluca Lake...I'm in Stevenson Ranch and work in Burbank.

    Sandra

  • readeram
    readeram Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2007

    Hi Sandra,

    Do you go to Saint Joesph's in Burbank or out by Stevenson Ranch? I'm going to St. Joe's. I work in Lake Balboa so we're traveling opposite ways from home to work. I hope the fires weren't too close to your location. You seem to have gotten going a lot quicker than I am since my surgery was Sept 19th. I have HMO so everything has to wait for approval first. Are you having any discomfort? I'm mostly worried about bra discomfort since I can't go without one when I'm at work or out. Well I do have to get up and go to work in the morning so I should try to go to bed but with the menopause on top of worrying about juggling my work schedule I'm not sleeping to well. Take Care.

  • garnetann
    garnetann Member Posts: 158
    edited November 2007

    Hi all

    Just got back from my first tx.  It was easy.  They had me change and put me on the table.  They covered up healthy boob, zapped from one side, than the other side.  They also took a couple xrays to make sure they are still on track. They said they would do that a couple times during the treatments to account for weight gain/loss, or anything else that might make the treatment area move even a cm.  They are not doing my armpits so they said deoderant was fine.  They drew a square, connected the dots, to show the treatment area.  They said slather on the aloe and creams as much as I want, just not in the morning before my treatments.  And they said they would watch it for any SE anyway.  They did say the nipple does seem to be the most vulnerable area.  Thinner skin or something like that.  I was in and out in 15 minutes.  I asked them to change my appt. to a little later so I could avoid some of rush hour traffic and they said fine starting next Friday was the soonest.  I will still be able to get up and back (160 miles RT) by lunch time.  I am planning on working half days through all this. 

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited November 2007

    Hello ladies, looks like I will be joining you, I start rads on November 8th.  Went in today for my markings...they said the lines had to stay on until my appointment next Wed. but does anyone know if they have to stay on for the whole 7 weeks of treatment?  They put stickers over them so they won't come off.  I had a bit of a meltdown tonight, first a missing breast, a bump where my port is, a bald head and now I have purple lines that go almost all the way up to my neck.  I live in Florida and my normal daily attire is tank tops....not anymore.  O.K., pity party over.

    For those that have their tattoos, did it hurt?  I am terrified, I know I shouldn't be but I have a terrible fear of needles.

    Take care everyone.

    Ginger

  • sedosa
    sedosa Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2007

    Bonnie, Thanks for the research. I am 3 down and 32 to go. Tomorrow is the double whammy, rads then chemo. My chest area wasn't in great condition when I started. It was bright red and peeling. So I am really scared. It already hurts. I can actually feel the rays, especially when they zap the scar area from straight overhead. I a trying to work through this also, but it gets harder and harder to get up each morning.

  • Charlie451
    Charlie451 Member Posts: 69
    edited November 2007

    Ginger - the tatoos didn't hurt me. Only a tiny little stick. It's done with an appartatus that makes the stick and shoots the ink in one quick procedure. The tatoo itself is a tiny speck less than the size of a pinhead. Maybe take a little of that anti anxiety med they give you at the beginning of chemo if you are worried about leaping off the table.

     I know what you mean about being marked up, bald headed and sporting a huge plug (port).  Reminds me of well-worn dolls my youngest daughter used to drag around the house as a child. The end results are what keeps you going so hang in there.

    Linda

  • gshoemate
    gshoemate Member Posts: 190
    edited November 2007

    Thanks Linda, I felt a little better after my meltdown.  I was just getting used to all the other se of bc now I look like my 5 year old has been drawing on me with a marker.  Will the marks have to be there for the full 7 weeks?  I'm thinking of all the things I shouldn't do that will make them wear off (exercising and sweating, sauna at the gym and the hot tub that will be at our vacation cabin in the Smokey Mountains).  Oh well, it's only 7 weeks rights.  If I got through chemo I can do this.

    Thanks again

    Ginger

  • renee1965
    renee1965 Member Posts: 109
    edited November 2007

    Hey Connie, I will be going to the rad doc in the morning to get marked, and then my 1st tx will be on Monday, I will have 33 tx, I know how you ladies feel, as for the bald head and now marked up, but this too shall pass, I am having the hardest time with the weight gain, it is so hard for me to stay focused enough to even watch what I am eating,  I just feel like in that dept I have lost control, I will be so happy when this is all over, the hair is back the weight is gone the energy returns and thing are normal again.  I have as many of you have kept things pretty low key and normal, but its the personal changes that affects me the most. and even the hair loss has been easier for me because I can cover and hide my head but I can't hide the weight that I have gained.  but again this too will pass, and I have sooooo much to be thankful for.  Anyway glad to meet you all and am glad to have you to go with me along this journey. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend. Hugs and blessings to you all, Renee

  • smckgilbert
    smckgilbert Member Posts: 20
    edited November 2007

    Hello Ann,

    I go out here near Stevenson Ranch at Vantage Oncology in Valencia...Yes, the fires were close...just over the hill behind my house.  We weren't evacuated; however  they wer eonly allowing residents in during the height of the fire and smoke last Monday.  I came home from work...and thought...oh well God...you'll have to take care of this one...I have to go to rad treatment....came back home and the winds had shifted.

    I have a POS plan; however, it's similar in a lot of ways to the HMO...I just pushed my doctors and the medical group to push my paperwork through...from the biopsy to radiation.  The process seemed to be bogged down in approvals...so I just got on the phone  and asked a lot of questions.

    I am having some discomfort...tenderness and intermittent pain...my bra hadn't really been uncomfortable.  I can't go braless at work either...but as soon as I get home...off it goes.  I'm having the sleepless nights as well...the fatigue along with the sleeplessness is the hardest part right now.

    Take care,

    Sandra

  • Clessie
    Clessie Member Posts: 210
    edited November 2007

    gshoemate, bless your heart, this disease kinda makes you lose your vanity, but soon you will have that full head of hair with treatments over and go back to a new lifestyle.

    They told me my markings had to be there for the full 7 wks of rads, I`m gonna go ahead and do the tattoos, they told me its just a little stick and not bad, so far they haven`t lied to me, seems like everytime I bathe a new sticker comes off and they replace the next day, so that the reason I want to do the tattos or dots has they call it at my cancer center, said it looks like a freckle.

    I have been going braless as much as I can and with winter coming and cooler temps now can get by with it, they told me by the 3rd week it may be uncomfortable wearing a bra, but when I`m at home always in my jammies, this getting dressed everyday is not a part of my routine and going to get very old, but at least by the real cold mos. can hybernate.

  • kel1
    kel1 Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2007

    Hi Gals, 2 down, 31 to go!  I know this sounds crazy, but anyone else actually feeling the rads?  Sedosa, thought I was the only one who could feel something 'squirrelly' at the scar site during the tx.  Also, the dr. said fatigue would happen later...so why did I need a 2 hr. nap after tx. today?  Does that mean I'll be sleeping 6 hrs. in a few weeks??? 

    Renee, I know what you mean about weight gain, but I've exercised through 5 months of chemo, a mastectomy, and now rads...something simple like walking can go a long way.  Really helps with my overall attitude.  Try cutting out sugar - I lost 11 lbs. the first 2 weeks after being diagnosed because I read somewhere eating sugar is to cancer like throwing gasoline on a fire.

    Bless us all...

  • katoMato
    katoMato Member Posts: 645
    edited November 2007

    Renee - I so hear you on the weight gain! I've always been about 10 to 20 pounds overweight, but I've heard I can "carry it well", whatever that means. (Shoulders like a bull?) It's really discouraging, isn't it? And now I weigh what I weighed when I delivered my first child! And I still haven't stopped eating! And after rads I'll be on Arimidex whose side effects include - wait for it - weight gain! Aarrrrgggghhhh!

    We've just got to keep things in perspective. A perfect figure and full head of hair won't mean a thing if we're not here to enjoy them. FIGHT THIS FIGHT. Ultimately, it will all be ok. Hang in there.

  • readeram
    readeram Member Posts: 26
    edited November 2007

    Hi Sandra,

    Glad to hear your home wasn't damaged during the fires. I got the call today to schedule my stimulation appt and markings and I asked about the post-surgery mammo the doctor wanted and they had forgotten to send it in for approval. That has now set it all back by another week and now won't have my first appt until the Monday after Thanksgiving. I had hoped to be finish before the Christmas holidays but that's no longer possible. Hopefully you'll be finished before I get started and well on the way to recovery. Take Care.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2007

    Greetings, all.

    I've been done with chemo for about a month and a half, almost two.  I've had my lumpectomy.  I'm scheduled to see the radiation oncologist for the first time on November 26th, but I'm not sure if I need to push for a earlier appt or not. It's rough because I work overnights so trying to get them to meet me halfway on a decent time is rough in itself.  I'd like to just stay with the 26th, because I'm medically uninsured until the 1st, but my medical oncologist wants me to try for a sooner appt. 


    Does anyone have any feedback?  I'd love to get move the date up and get things going...but I don't want to jump in without looking either....Cool

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