Starting Chemo in JAN 2007
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Amera, I feel the same way as you do about the term "remission." To me, that says that the cancer is still there, but has been knocked back with treatment to the point that it isn't active, and that it's just a matter of time before it comes back. I don't know if that is the correct interpretation, but that's what it says to me and I wouldn't want that term applied to me. I much prefer "cured," until I know differently. I can't say that I have actually internalized the idea of being cured, but I am working on that. I intend to be cured, and I think this is the time to start thinking of myself that way, since treatment is over. Cured is a permanent thing, remission is only temporary, right? So who would choose that? I'm sure your co-worker meant well, but just didn't know the correct terminology to use....but no wonder that it made you feel uncomfortable! I totally understand.
Sharon, it's always so good to hear from you. Sorry you didn't have as big a turnout as you expected for the Terry Fox event, but anything is better than nothing. Please scan the article and share it with us, if it is published.
Lynn, so glad your MRI results were good! If it were me, I'd start with my internist to figure out the source of my pain, rather than starting off with a specialist. If you don't need or want surgery, and I am sure you don't, you might as well keep it simple. Do you take Celebrex or anything like that? Maybe that would help. I know I can't get out of bed without mine. Hope it goes ok having your mother living with you - I know she'll be a help after your surgery, but maybe she won't need to be with you all that long. No matter how close you are, it can be difficult living under the same roof.
Good luck.
Tina, how is Paul doing today? And what does the ENT say about his continued problems? I hope things will get better somehow.
Well, I'll check in later - am off to see the nutritionist.
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Lynn - great news on the MRI results - we'll take arthritis and a herniated disk if we have to - but please look into getting some therapy and/or meds to ease the pain.
Sharon - I think we have been inundated with cancer walks this summer - Relay for Life was in June, the 60 km. Breast Cancer walk was Sept. 8/9, then the Terry Fox one you were on, and now on Sept. 30th is the CIBC Run for the Cure - that's the Breast Cancer 1 or 5 km. walk/run- I am doing that one with my girls and some of their friends.
Amera - I agree with Melia and Mel - my onc. also told me he is giving me a "well over 90%"rate for a cure - so when he used that word cure - and I know my onc., he would not use it lightly - hey I feel I will be cured. Yes, there is always a chance for recurrence, we all know that, but I dont' consider myself "in remission". I think people just don't know what to say.
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And Tina - yikes - Paul is still having nosebleeds after the surgery - poor kid. Hope he's better today. And how was Jaclyn's big sleepover party?
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Jeez, Amera, I really don't know. I hear ya...remission does only seem to be used with childhood leukemia. My dr. told me that I will very likely be "cured". He also, at another time, told me that I'd be cured when I died of something else, i.e. car accident, heart issue, etc. (It didn't come across so horrible as that sounds, but...it kind of gave me the impression that they really don't use "cure" so much in this world of ours. I don't get that, when they do w/other forms of it. Skye, I totally relate on feeling able to separate myself from the BC world once herceptin is done... but now I need to add d&c, possible endometrial ablation, cyst and/or ovary removal to the mix before I can feel like a normal, non patient type of person. I do have a boatload of hair now... not that it's looking good or anything, but it was nice to go out w/the kids the other night and not be feeling like people were surveying my wig. Lynn, CONGRATS on the good MRI results....fabulous news. Timing of your mother coming sounds great too. That link to Andy Garcia I sent you was very interesting.... in it it said he had hepatitis and if you clicked on the link, it listed like 20 famous people that had it as well. A major invasion of privacy, I thought....but interesting nonetheless. Pamela Anderson was on there, but I knew about her. There were many more that I was very surprised about. So many people w/so many issues to deal with...
Paul got ANOTHER gusher last night after my last post. He was playing with a little 4 year old boy, tossing the ball with him and the boy accidentally kneed Paul in the nose and it was a blood flood. He then had a CORE meltdown at home on me about not being able to be active. Finally, I put him on the phone w/my mother in FL and just being able to vent to someone else seemed to help him. I took my ambien and was out COLD at 9 pm, I was so drained by his hissy fit...thus the no chat last night.
Mel, perhaps I am speedreading, but I do not ever recall you saying you had issues w/your lungs.... what is that all about?
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Hey Caya,
Jaclyn's party was great, thx. She did see the two girls whose mom I am feuding with but they played nicely together. Those girls didn't stay the night, thankfully. They did games, crafts, had pizza and in the am, a big breakfast buffet in the dining room. She loooooooved it. She cracks me up, for six years old...to go off to a big community sleepover sans parents and she is not at all scared.
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Tina,
I hope you can get Paul's situation resolved. Having raised a boy, I can imagine how frustrated he is about not being able to play. And I love the stories about your kids in general; Jaclyn sounds like such the girly girl!
Sharon, what type of job are you going back to?
Lynn, good news about your test results. Won't it be lovely when all of us get clean bills of health?
Melia
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Well how's this for creepy...? In today's mail I get a reminder that it's time for my mammogram, funny they never sent them before???
I had to go to AT&T this morning and buy a new modem. For some reason ours fried yesterday?? Cost me 100.00 but I had to spend it because my daughter has online classes.
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Rebecca, good news on your a.c repair.
I had a meltdown yesterday and called my oncologist. Since going on the tamox. I have not had more than 3 hours sleep per night. I wake up roasting or wake up soaked and freezing, not to mention the 5 gazillion trips to the bathroom! I can't take it anymore, I am so tired I cannot function. Of course they tell me to take the anti depressants and I am suffering so bad weaning off the Lexapro I do not want anymore of that crap in me!! I am getting these brain zaps that everytime I move I feel like my heart stops and my brain "reboots". It is very hard to explain, and seems Dr's don't want to admit to that side effect, they say they " never heard of it"!! Well, google Brain zaps and HELLO welcome to a whole new world. I definately am not the only one enduring this horrible sensation. So I am at a cross roads. I can take Effexor and hopefully reduce the hot flashes ( which are too many in a day to count) and endure the withdrawal someday which I believe has to be on the same level as heroin withdrawal or throw away the tamoxifen and hope for the best. I'm am so sorry everyone. I know I am a huge downer, but I am beside myself with what this "blankety blank blank" disease has done to me. I want to scream and put my fist through the wall. I can't do anything without sweating profusely and feeling faint all the time. If I am not roasting I am shivering, never am I just normal! I changed taking the tamox at night to the AM per the Dr. but I just can't take those *^%# anti depressants. I am beginning to think that Dr's are prescribing those just to say.. "here now go away and leave me alone." Again Ladies I am sorry, I have screamed at my poor DH, cried to my brother in law. Sobbed at my DD. I am a real piece of work.
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Wow, Nancy, you have really been through the wringer. Super hugs to you, wish I could give you a real one and not just in the e-message. I hadn't heard of the brain zaps but evidently you are far from the only one. We should not have to fight to get doctors to believe our reactions are real. There must be SOMETHING they can do for you, I am so frustrated for you. Nancy are you past menopause yet? Could you take something other than Tamo? Femara is much kinder to our systems. In the meantime, go ahead and cry on our collective shoulder, girl. All together it's one really big shoulder.
Tina that nosebleed thing with Paul seems a bit more than the usual. Have you pursued a second opinion? Jac sounds like a very secure little girl, and you can take the credit for that.
Amera I've had that remission question a number of times. I think most people use it to mean, is your cancer all gone? I always just say my main treatment is done and they could find no spread. Of course, that breastbone thing has me wondering yet how true it is in my case, but I don't mention that to anyone but very close friends. But I don't like remission as a term for myself either. Sounds too much like it's coming back! Cure, now THAT's a word I can live with. Literally. LOL!
Oh and Jan, that Sleep In for the Cure sounds like my kind of walk. Love it! I'll have to see if they offer it. Otherwise it would just be fun to go wear my pink baseball cap and hang out in a crowd of them.
My latest good thing is that those little lesions that seemed to be developing over the breastbone have gone away, and it's not hurting nearly as bad as it did last week. I'm taking it as a sign that you have all brilliantly, correctly diagnosed it as inflammation. - Skye -
Well, an Alaskan storm has come in for the week. It's dark and cold....
Even though the end of the week says back up in the high 80s.... I don't think the 100s and 90s are to return for the rest of the season.
Gonna' try to make it to chat tonight.
Off to another job inteview... See ya's...
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Nancy, I agree - try to get something to help you sleep. I get hot all night too but I still manage to sleep. Please don't give up!
Mel and Melia, thinking of you. Mel, hope you get some answers on the lung spots. Melia, hope your visit to your ailing father was not too hard on you. Viddie, what did the P.S. say today? Cindy, so sorry about you SIL. When it hits close to home, it's hard to take. Skye, I love your new avatar. TPP- I agree about a second opinion on the nosebleeds. What kind of dr are you going to - an ENT? allergist? Sharon, I'm glad to hear that you are not going to be superwoman at work anymore. It's not worth it. Lynn, glad to hear the good news on the MRI, now what is the plan for the back? Jan, I love the sleep in, but that is hard for me to do. Not much new hear. Just got back from a short bike ride. It's a beautiful day. My DH and I met 34 years ago today!
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Nancy - I am so sorry to hear that you are having such a rough time. I know first hand that sleep deprivation can really wreak havoc with everything in your life. It effects your mood, memory, energy level, everything. 3 hours of sleep is not enough. Is it the hot flashes that mostly wake you up? Mine do too, but if I take something to help me sleep that usually works. I wonder if there is something they can give you to help you sleep through? Keep complaining to those doctors - eventually they will have to hear you!
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Hello all:
Nancy, I can relate to the staying up all night either cold or hot. Did changing your Tamoxifen to the morning help? I'm wondering if I should change from taking mine, but for me it would have to be around noon hour as I have to take my clondronate in the morning, and then have 2 hours with no food, and no other medications. Let me know if the effexor helps with the hot flashes. I signed up for a Yoga and Meditation class, as it is suppose to help with both the hot flashes, and fears.
Congrats Lynn, that is super news on your MRI!!
It SNOWED here today, and the wind was very cold, although now the sun is out and it feels like it is warming up a bit. I had to get my hat and gloves out to take Thor for a walk.
Mel, keep us posted on the lung spots.
Sorry about leaving the chat last nite, had a phone call from my friend who lost her husband last Friday. She is having a very rough time. The funeral is this Saturday. He had an aneurysm (like a stroke) last Friday when he was out golfing. Vivian has been such a big support to me through my journey. Her husband Wes, was only 46. Life is just not fair sometimes.
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Amera I agree about the term "remission" and like the others I really do find myself at a loss regarding a response to give to well wishers. It is really funny, but when I speak to someone, they very frequently will want me to reassure them that my cancer is gone and that I have gotten some kind of "all clear" from my medical team. Of course this is not the case. It is not that I am still "sick", but there was no "final exam" or exclamation that I am CURED. There is no test I can do to see if I am disease free....I just have to rely on the fact that I feel OK, and I do not have any other symptoms. Like the rest of you I find myself in limbo....but people do not wish to hear that, and they will press me to explain how the Dr knows that the chemo "worked". I find it a bit upsetting, because I really do not like to rehash my odds every time I have a conversation, so I have developed a new response and it seems to work very well. When someone asks me how I feel, I just tell them that I feel great now, and that "all that" is now just an awful memory. For some reason this keeps people from asking the next set of questions regarding recurrance and the efficacy of treatment.
Tina- yeck and double yeck for poor Paul. That is awful beyond words. I wish they could figure out what was causing that and fix it so he can get back to the business of being a healthy young boy! I second Mary on getting a second opinion. It might be time.
Congrats on your test results Lynn...nice to hear that it is just ordinary run of the mill cooties and not the dangerous kind.
Nancy it really sounds like you are having a dreadful response to the Tamo. I have hot flashes and such, and I can definately relate to either being hot or cold....but mine are not as severe as what you are describing, and I find that for me cold packs and dressing in layers works just fine. I wake up 2-3 times per night sweaty....but I just get a fresh cold pack from the freezer, get a drink and then go back to bed.If your quality of life is being impacted so negatively I think it might be time to consider alternatives. I take my tamo in two smaller doses...I wonder if that would help you. What is your menopausal status? You are NOT a downer Nancy....you are just having a rough time, and who better to ask for support and advice than us? Oh, and you are NOT crazy about the brain zaps....I have heard of them.
Happy anniversary Mary!
well I registered for the Komen walk...it is in October here. I sent out money grubbing emails and printed up some fliers. So far I have raised $25 (yay) and no...that does NOT include my own registration fee. My fundraising webpage is lame....just the standard form. If I do well this year maybe next year I will personalize it. I am planning to walk around campus over then next few weeks to see if I can drum up some donations. I will definately be walking, and so far about 5 of my girlfriends have told me that they will walk beside me. I am so blessed -
Nancy, do you have ambien? It's a lifesaver for me at night. Without it, I wouldn't sleep. I know you're not looking for more drugs to take, but....this one is worthwhile. And do NOT think for a minute we tire of hearing about your issues. We ARE the people to let it all out to. Don't forget that.
Yes, I agree on 2nd opinion for Paul's nose. I need to get him to OSU...they were rated top 15 in nation for both cancer care and ENT. I let Paul sit for Jaclyn tonight for 45 minutes while I went across the st. to the parents Brownie troop mtg. Came home early and Jaclyn had hit her head on a table, has a huge egg, Paul tripped, hit his nose and had bleeds from both nostrils. &^%$#! On the upside, it was nice to reconnect with the Brownies moms, who are all such down to earth, nice people.
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Thanks ladies for the talk. Joni, this is just the 2nd day of changing the tamox to the morning. Although, Jeff told me tonite that several times last nite he checked on me and I didn't believe him, so for once I slept sounder, not any longer time wise but a deeper rest. before a pin drop would of woke me and I did not hear him at all. He said he even felt me to see if I was flashing, he said I wasn't clammy or anything, but that the room was frigid!! LOL, Never noticed.
I asked him to go with me to the Dr. Friday and help me convince her that I am not doing well on these meds. He said he would, but fears it's a useless argument. They (Dr's) seem to have one view of treating you, period. I would be more than willing to take a sleep aid over the effexor anyday. I asked if I could take my ativan, now get this...splan this to me Lucy...My reg. old Doc prescribes ativan to me umpteen years ago for anxiety, never once mentions an addictiveness to this drug, take as needed it says on the bottle. Now all of a sudden I ask if I can take it with the tamox. and it's well.....maybe for now, I don't want you to use it alot..it's addictive....HUH???
Before it was "yea take it", "now it's hey be careful with that stuff." ARRRGGGG! Did they finally figure something out? Like I always say "how many deer had to be killed here before the sign went up"? This is why I am such a pain in the $%# when it comes to sticking medicines in me. I swear they don't know what kind of cocktail they make people take, they assume everything will not counteract. BAH!
Ok, I guess I'm done screaming.
Yes, Skye I had an estradiol test done and chemo definately took me to menopause land. I am pretty sure I was heading there on my own before chemo anyway cause my periods were wacky.
I bought an ice bag and have been sleeping with that. I think I am going to order the chillow pillow, 'cept I read some not so great reviews on it. but at this point I don't care.
Jeff found me a personal fan I can wear around my neck at the dollar store today. Best dollar ever spent. I want one in every color!! LOL Stock me up!!
Tina, I hope Paul is ok, My SIL suffered from that, I remember how he would take his mom's tampons to use. What is the ususal cause for such violent nosebleeds? Boy that is a side effect from chemo I don't miss.. the taxol gave me nosebleeds. Remember the watery eyes and runny noses? Seems like a distant memory. Yet going through seemed like forever. Everyone take good care, we all have our little things to endure. I am just so glad I'm not flashing alone.
Love you gals!
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Oh Nancy,
I wish I could be there to fan you and mist you and rub your back. Never be afraid to vent to us; what would we do without each other? I am glad your husband will go to the dr with you; maybe it will help, and at least you will have an advocate. Thinking of you ...
Melia
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Nancy if you are post-men, is there any reason you can't take Femara instead of Tamo? It might be much more agreeable for you. I've barely noticed any problem with it. On the other hand, I do well remember those runny noses because I still hve one from the Herceptin. All the time, very irritating. And the burning when I sweat is more and more noticeable. Feels like a thousand tiny mosquitoes stinging me. So if I were on a med like tamo that made me flash and sweat more, I'd really be in for it. I guess we should thank heaven for small favors. :-) Skye
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Tina, my lung spots likely aren't anything serious (unless they are, of course) - just some little 1-2mm spots they found when I was diagnosed that haven't changed much. If they are unchanged this time, I'll probably relax about them.
Nancy, I wish there were something I could do to help you. I know how much you don't like to take pills, but you really need some Ambien now (and that one, they've pretty much decided isn't addictive) and probably need to be taking Effexor, too. I understand your distrust of all the meds, but they tell you the best they know at the time. No side effect can be worse than what you're going through now - no one can function on three hours of sleep! I think it's a great idea to take your dh to the doctor's appt. with you - you need someone to advocate for you.
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Nancy, at least you haven't lost your sense of humor. I'm LOL'ing about how many deer had to be killed before the sign went up. Before we moved to OH, we were like how do they know deer are going to cross HERE? Do they think they can read? Scent/trails never occurred to me.
Mel, glad the spots aren't a huge issue. I was like what the heck did I miss....
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Nearly had a heart attack this am. Jaclyn, unbeknownst to me, was kicking her soccer ball around in the garage and it rolled into the street. She followed it out and was trying to kick it back across and come home....meanwhile all the morning crazies are flying down the road to try to get work on time. I flipped out on her... screamed across the st. for her to STOP!!! I'm out there in my nightgown with my hair standing on it's Bozo ends, people are jogging, driving by. Can you say embarrassing? I also have this massive case of itchy, hive welts on both cheeks...no idea what that's all about. I also suspect I may have a yeast infection...not sure but don't want to ignore because I don't want the D&C to be put off for any reason. I haven't one of these in yeaaaaarrrrrrrrrrs. It's seems coincidental that it occured very soon after the pelvic ultrasound. The cleanliness factor of the equipment kind of occured to me... ok, have I grossed you all out enough this early in the am?
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So my visit to Northern Cal to deal with my father's issues was about what I expected. He has been a very uninvolved parent all our lives, but of course, my brother and I are trying to assure the best quality of life for him. He is in an assisted living facility, is very angry about it, but cannot care for himself. He is partially paralyzed and it takes two men to get him out of bed, so we can't have him living with us, we cannot physically care for him. But he is so furious, it's kind of scary. It was a long, grueling day. I am lucky that I have my brother to help with the decisions and logistics, though.
I am really feeling pretty well. The edema is much improved, though after a long day still uncomfortable and it always feels good to put my feet up when I get home. I find that exercise is very good for them, esp walking. I seem to be able to keep the panic at bay, which is good, and most of the time am pretty positive. I rarely talk about the bc with anyone but you ladies. I find it is history for the few people who know about it. Which is ok with me. I find all of you more understanding anyway. I guess recurrance lurks in my mind, but I try to avoid dwelling on that fear .... I can't do anything about it at this point anyway. I am eating well and exercising, have chosen to not give up alcohol. I don't drink much but like a glass of wine after work, even knowing the risks. I think that the relaxation it brings is important to me.
Tina, what a tough way to start your day! And Mel, glad the spots aren't too worrisome. How is everyone else? Mary, how is work going?
Melia
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I haven't posted a hair pic yet, so here it is. This was taken a couple of weeks ago by a photographer who volunteered to take pics of our local support group to be displayed in a house we are building. I am still sometimes wearing a baseball cap, sometimes topless - just depends on where I go. My hair is still very thin and showing much more scalp than I am comfortable with.
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Jan, I am not sure what else to say other than you are ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. I love the picture. I think you will come to cherish this photo in years to come. Humungous hugs from a teary-eyed sister in Edison NJ.
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Oh, Jan! I agree with Rebecca - what a beautiful photo. You are lovely, and if you don't see it now, I think you will in years to come, as Rebecca said. I see a strong, beautiful woman there, a true survivor.
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Jan, you are absolutely gorgeous. You look so vibrant and strong. I love your hair!
Melia
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I'm overwhelmed by the compliments - I just wanted you to see how long/short my hair is
Joni - Snow!?! Now I remember why I don't live in Canada anymore! Yikes! It's 80 here today and I'm going climbing in a t-shirt tonight. Snow is pretty - but I sure don't miss it a bit.
Nancy - glad your DH is going with you.
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Just popping in between my Herceptin infusion this morning, back from the hospital to grab a quick nap and then it's off to DD Cassie's High School Graduation tonight.
Jan - you look AMAZING. Glowing, happy, and the hair is very chique.
xoxo Caya
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Jem,
That is a great pic!!! I love black and white photography!!!
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Jem,
That is a great pic!!! I love black and white photography!!!
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Jem,
That is a great pic!!! I love black and white photography!!!
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