Making do with less

abbadoodles
abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
This is a question probably inspired by the "no more Made in China" thread but something I've been thinking of a lot recently. Even before the bc thing, so that's not it.

I'm curious about how many of you are sick and tired of having so much stuff? Books, furniture, clothes, gadgets, you-name-it. Just stuff. We work so hard to earn money for all of it then it just is in the way of life. You have to make room for it, store it, walk around it, clean it, LOOK at it taking up space......I'm getting to be a big fan of empty space, too. Room to breath space.

Just a question and wondering if anyone out there is feeling the same way. Time for a clean sweep.

Tina
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    Yes Tina,
    I feel that way too...here about 2 yrs ago (b4 my dx of bc) I sat in my recliner and looked around my living room and realized that I felt closed in.....then I started looking around the rest of the house...yep, same feeling there too....I have since unloaded my bedroom, bathroom, and dining room and living room...next I plan to start on the spare bedroom/craft room.....Im finding that between unloads as I finish each room Im feeling better and enjoying the time that I am stuck in the house more....

    Jule
  • jasmine
    jasmine Member Posts: 1,286
    edited May 2008
    Yes, same here. De-cluttering as the Flylady calls it. You can go to her website www.flylady.net for help in this process. Also, Suze Orman talks about getting rid of clutter in your life too. Her book is called The Courage to be Rich and is an excellent read on why we surround ourselves with clutter that we don't need and never use. She says that clutter is 'yesterday's things taking up today's space.'

    I have let go of alot of things that I no longer use to 'bless someone else' who can use it instead of it just sitting in my closet taking up space and collecting dust.
  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2007
    Yep, been there. After my dx, about one year, felt the walls closing in and wanted to redo the place. It was perfect timing!
    My f-i-l had passed away and dh wanted to bring home a lot of stuff from the "home place". We had a long talk and I said we had to move out from here before that could happen.
    All the years of "collections", antique hunting and buying and NOT using, whatever, had to go.
    We took our not using to his dad's and included it in the "estate" (not really That fancy) sale. So the few things I allowed back here did fit in and room to spare. It was SUCH a relief!
    Too much stuff is exhausting, besides being tiring to clean or dust. I can handle a lot of books, but that's about it. We have special things that really mean a lot and pics and a few "art" things we have from special places, but it has to really mean something to us. Or it's not worth it to me to clean them.
    I actually have room in cabinets to store stuff, and closets to hang things, with shelves and floors that don't have stuff stacked full of things I don't use or wear. It's all gone if it's not been used in a year.(except for dh's -- he hasn't gotten the message yet and never will. LOL)
  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited August 2007
    Oh, yes, the "inherited treasures." Both my parents died within the past ten years, so I have tons of their stuff, not to mention what I stuffed into my poor brother's house. The poor (bachelor) guy's place was bad enough before the added burden of family crapola.

    Now, here's one of my problems. I feel guilty throwing out perfectly good stuff, both things I have bought over the years (including antiques) and my parents' things. OTOH, it takes SO MUCH time and energy to sell it at yard sales, in the paper, online/eBay, etc. How do I just get OVER it and throw the damn stuff out???

    Can't forget to mention that the best book I've read about clutter is "Clearing Your Clutter with Feng Shui." It's helped me a LOT but it's not perfect. Goes into all those reasons why we surround ourselves with the stuff, but I'm still stuck on the family things.

    Save me from myself!

    Tina
  • jasmine
    jasmine Member Posts: 1,286
    edited May 2008
    I didn't bother with yard sales. I don't have the time and I don't really think you make as much as you think you will. Basically, I made an excel spreadsheet and put an estimated value on it and took the stuff to Goodwill. They will give you a receipt that you can then use at tax time for charitable contributions.

    I got over the guilt by realizing that even though I had possesion of these items, having them just sitting in my closet/cupboards, they were essentially valueless anyway regardless of how much I had originally spent on them.
  • sahalie
    sahalie Member Posts: 2,147
    edited September 2008
    I love this thread.
    Just this morning I removed "junk", magazines, empty picture frames etc. from a corner in one of my rooms.

  • gsg
    gsg Member Posts: 3,386
    edited August 2007

    i'm with you. i really want to get rid of EVERYTHING and simplify my life. i'm still looking for the motivation, however, to do it. it always seems like a fantastic idea, in theory. then i look around, don't know where to start and lose interest. my husband is a packrat (albeit a neat one...i'm the messier one of the two of us) and it's hard for him to let go of stuff, so i have that going against me too.

  • jasmine
    jasmine Member Posts: 1,286
    edited May 2008

    GSG, that is where the Flylady comes in. She says it doesn't matter where you start as long as you get started. Don't try to do it all at one time. She has what she calls a '27 fling boogie'. One day a week, you go through your house with a garbage bag and find 27 things to throw away. Then, you take a bag and run through your house and find 27 things to give away to charity. That's it. One baby step at a time. She also recommends setting a timer and working on jobs like this for only 15 minutes a day. I know what you are thinking. I thought the same at first too...15 minutes...how can you accomplish anything in 15 minutes. But, I have to tell you...after a month of 15 minutes a day, I cleared out a whole walk in closet that I haven't been able to walk into for years.

  • BMD
    BMD Member Posts: 1,492
    edited August 2007

    I have no problem getting rid of stuff. My dh and my kids are attached to everything. I secretly throw away broken toys only to find them in the garage a few days later. We have 5 printers and I am the only one who uses one. My dh won't even get rid of the computer my sister gave us that is from the 80's. It doesn't even work. If it was up to me I would empty this place out and only put back what I need. Oh well. I knew he was a collector of crap when I married him. What can I do?

  • jasmine
    jasmine Member Posts: 1,286
    edited May 2008

    <hands BMD a match...sneaks out the backdoor>

  • abbadoodles
    abbadoodles Member Posts: 2,618
    edited August 2007
    A match! ROFL You guys are giving me the belly laughs. Old computers and printers, indeed. Ask me how many old TV's we have in the cellar.

    Keep talking. You are really working on me!

    Tina
  • rumoret
    rumoret Member Posts: 685
    edited August 2007
    Oh yes......I am working on my bedroom and the windows throughout the house. My mother totally cleaned out her house after her breast cancer dx in 1999 (she is 77). She got tired of dusting around everything. It sure made her life easier...and her house always looks clean. Now if I could just get my husband to clean up the garage and get his golf items out of our master bedroom!

    Love,
    Terry
  • BMD
    BMD Member Posts: 1,492
    edited August 2007
    Alwayshope have you got a can of gasoline for that match.

    Tina I wish we had cellars in San Diego. At least I could put the 3 extra TV's we have down there instead of on the floor of each room of my house.

    I have started cleaning old papers out of my office and filing cabinets. That makes me feel better.
  • Motherbeartosix
    Motherbeartosix Member Posts: 101
    edited August 2007
    Oh, wow, a thread near and dear to my heart.

    It seems ALL of my six kids - even the ones who were adopted - have my husband's pack rat gene. argggggghhhhhhhhhhh Well, I have to admit that now that my oldest daughter is married, she is discovering how to live with less clutter.

    I, on the other hand, love living with very little clutter. My brain is already jumbled enough without being surrounded by it. LOL And my neighborhood deed restrictions don't allow yard sales, so the stuff ends up getting shoved into closets, in the attic, or in the garage. My husband doesn't seem to realize that garages are for parking cars.

    sigh
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2007
    YESSIR.. I join this club

    Help! I have so much stuff around
    and have to downwize.. because
    will be moving.. can no longer
    afford to be here..
    and believe me, it wont be the giant
    one bedroom I now have

    SOOOOO.. how do I get rid of all this

    I had my cousin over .. to help
    well, we nearly had a dispute..
    because... she just took stuff
    some items that had been given to me
    many from the sisters.. (I cant let them go)
    she did not understand at all..

    then my own dust collectors here..
    I just checked my shelf.. dust..
    got rid of some lovely books
    and still yet more
    Bateman, and Art books
    but where to put them when I move

    papers.. taxes from years ago
    and on and on

    I will visit the Flylady

    Printers: I just put one out in the hall here
    tried to sell it to no avail
    Someone took it for free

    As for clothing, I wear comfy stuff
    and really a nice black skirt
    and dressy top suits me fine
    for seasonal GTG's

    Best...


    PM>>> any tips to me.. thanks
    )
  • pconn03
    pconn03 Member Posts: 643
    edited August 2007

    Add me to the list, too!!!!!

  • davisfamily70
    davisfamily70 Member Posts: 146
    edited August 2007
    Great thread-I am also a fan of FLYLADY-if you get an opportunity pull up the link and read the essay on clutter-it made me cry, because I do live my life in CHAOS (can't have any one over syndrome)-which is sad when you are sick and would love to have people come over.
    I am readin the bood-"messy no more" and that is making a big impact on my thinking-I need to clear this dust out of my head and move on-pick up a copy it will really open your eyes.
  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited August 2007
    Yes yes yes... I tried to simplify when I was unemployed with new born twins...I think it was to justify having no income. I didn't know how long it would last.

    But every weekend I get rid of 27 things or more. I call it the 27 fling boogie from FLY LADY.com. I give most of it to goodwill or sell it, or pitch it as a last resort. It feels so good. I wish I could get DH to do it!!

    I see that someone already mentioned Flylady. She has a book too. There are tons of books on simplifying your life. Like a low maint yard ahd house. Limit magazine subscriptions. Give away books after you are done with them. It drives my mother nuts. I am all over making my life simple.

    All the fun gadgets for the kitchen? don't need them.

    I found that knowing people who live in apartments like Europe or NYC, really have it down to a science! they have to.

    Janis
  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2007
    To get over the guilt of "throwing away": locate a consignment shop for clothes or household items, furniture. Find the store to donate to Goodwill or Habitat for Humanity any and all things except clothing.
    Know, just know, that what you are not using, Someone CAN use and enjoy!
    You are keeping something useful away from somebody who really needs it.
  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited August 2007
    I love this thread!
    I'm on a mission to "de-crapify" my house. I love the 27 thing suggested here and will most definitely do it!
    Thanks gals!
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    I've thrown MORE than 27 things away that was just PACKED into my drawer. I cleaned out my closet and shoes. Now I need to clean it out again. I kept to much stuff that I haven't worn in over _______ blank years (too embarrassed). I'm feeling guilty. In fact, the boxes are still stacked in my hall to go to Salvation Army. DH's back should be good enough now to help take them down to the car.

    Don't mention my dining room or living room. DH's father died and we have most of the stuff the other brothers didn't want. They threw a lot of stuff away from their father's house (thank goodness).

    A friend came over before my bc dx and helped clean out my daughter's room who had been gone for some time. I just couldn't get motivated to do it. And I was angry that my daughter didn't do it herself (if you know what I mean).

    And my garage! It's got my junk and his parent's junk in there. Still can park the car in it, but it sure makes it harder to get out.

    I've cleaned out the closet under the stairs. But it continuously gets all messed up! Can't figure it out. Must be a ghost.

    Geez, I'm on a roll!

    So, I suppose I need to go visit the flylady.
    Shirley
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2007
    Count me in for the 27 things to get rid of group! My house is tiny and it is full of junk! I can't even clean properly because there is not a place for everything.

    Thanks for the encouragement I needed to get started!

    Miss S
  • juanita63
    juanita63 Member Posts: 171
    edited August 2007

    Goodwill or the pantry for less fortunate in town is where I've been sending stuff. Just dooing one room at a time.

  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited August 2007

    AND if you have stuff packed in boxes that you haven't opened in a year..get rid of it!!

  • florencedonna
    florencedonna Member Posts: 131
    edited August 2007

    We filled up a dumpster in April 2006 (between chemo and rads) and now I look around and I can't even tell we got rid of that much stuff. I have missed exactly one thing that we tossed. /donna

  • Toronto
    Toronto Member Posts: 118
    edited August 2007
    Check out freecycle. If you google it you can probably find a group in your area. I used it to get rid of a lot of stuff, it's amazing. I gave away (and people came to pick this stuff up) a 100 foot extension cord, a rusty barbeque, boxes and boxes of books and toys and games, extra plants that I dug up when things had to be thinned, an intercom system, a guitar that needed work, old bicyles wheels, light fixtures, a sink, and probably lots of other things that I don't remember. The only thing that failed to get a taker was a box of ceramic tiles. You post what you want to give away and people who want it e-mail you. Some people complain about no-shows but I never had that problem, maybe because I was brutally honest about the stuff I was giving away. I just left stuff on the porch with people's names on it and away it went.

    Now if I can get my husband and sons on board, I'll be smiling.
  • patti3796
    patti3796 Member Posts: 79
    edited August 2007
    This idea might work for some of you. One friend tried this and I have also found it helpful. Like many I have closets full of clothes that I never wear, but think someday it might be the perfect outfit.

    What she does, if she buys a new item, she then donates 3 old items to charity. So one new sweater in and three sweaters out. It is just a small step, but sometimes the small steps are the easiest.
  • Fitztwins
    Fitztwins Member Posts: 7,969
    edited August 2007

    OH I so do that. New piece of clothing. 3 have to go. I find I wear the same stuff. I stick to the same basic colors. Black, brown bottoms, maybe olive. White, black or light brown tops.

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited August 2007
    I was following a blog where this couple was redoing an old house in Chicago. When they were cleaning out the house, they put stuff in the alley and it disappeared.
    Seems that alley searching on the weekends is hobby for lots of folks. guess it would would work for curbs, too, in the city, of course.
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited August 2007
    Yes, about the ally, definitely

    We have a side drive here at the apt.
    and I have seen tables, etc. items there
    gone to the store, and presto, l0 minutes
    they are grabbed up

    I call my Community Centre/Church and
    the gal will come and collect my items
    as I'm four floors up ... can not carry all
    down. This works well. Right now, it is the
    clothing items that just are hard to let go
    but will start today, with one item at a time



    again, a good thread )))

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