June 2007 Chemo
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Hi to all,
Well, it's day 8 of my last AC. I can't say that tx 4 was worse or better than the others. But I'm exhausted and tired of the whole thing. I had a really bad day Saturday just kinda feeling sorry for myself, tired of being upbeat and positive and just wishing it was over. But after a good, long cry, I went for a walk and felt better. Sunday I decided to do what Dawn did and clean my closet. I pulled out bags and bags of old clothes and organized my shoes and the dust was unbelievable. I could feel it in my lungs and realized it probably was not a smart thing to do to be in an enclosed space moving all that dust around. So I'm with Dawn. It's time to delegate the cleaning. We don't need any more setbacks.
I think I'm worrying that the Taxol won't be any easier. Most of the ladies have said it's easier and I'm so hopeful. But you never know.
This morning on my daily walk with my dog, I decided to try jogging. I used to run a lot and played soccer so I really miss the running. I jogged slower than some people walk, but I was able to continue for a full 15 minutes. I felt good while I was moving, but when I stopped I was overwhelmed with exhaustion. I'm not surprised, but it makes me wonder if it really is okay to try it. I know there were some other runners in our group. TerryNY, were you a runner? Have you tried it since treatment?
I'm trying really hard to get my positive attitude back. Actually, just writing and venting a little sure helps.
I hope you all are doing well. You are in my thoughts and prayers as always.
xoxo
Kathleen -
They did the decadron and aloxi in the IV than sent home zofran. I called them today and they said to alternate the compazine and the zofran since they do different things to help curb the nausea. She said they could send me to the hospital and put me on fluids and IV antinausea, but that is the last place I want to go to. I just want it to go away. DH says I have to continue because he has gotten used to having me around. He is so good. He can't make it go away, but listens to me whine and does not lose patience. I would lose patience with me if it was me. :-)
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For those of you getting ready for Taxol I thought I would pass along that my daughter just finished 12 weeks of it and she did really well other than being tired.
I've not had alot of trouble with nausea but do have compazine and use it occasionally plus the Aloxi they put in my IV. -
Go Kathleen!! I WAS averaging 4 times a week for 30 minutes on the treadmill until my daughter left for England and now I am walking her dog several times a day! Hoping to get back to the treadmill on Monday but I may have to go back to bed instead of to work afterwards!! LOL
garnetann - sounds like you have a wonderful cheerleader for a husband - I whine to mine too, he says it's his job to listen! I sure don't want to end up in the hospital either - have you tried upping your fluid intake along with alternating the nausea drugs?
Pam - is your daughter triple neg also? After A/C #4 next week I'll be starting Taxol/Herceptin for the 12 weeks and I'm worried about reactions etc. I haven't had a lot of nausea luckily but a lot of the "just not feeling well" part.
The "good" sudafed is definitely helping so I expect to be over this allergy thing in a couple days - thank goodness!!
Hope everyone is having a good week so far!
Dawn -
Dawn,please, please ask your onc about changing the cat litter while on chemo. I've heard that is a big no-no due to infection risks. My cousin had a cat while undergoing chemo and had to designate that job to her husband for the duration.
Kathleen, it's hard to be positive through the whole ordeal. I think we all understand that! I had a bad time last week as I'm STILL on restrictions from the wound (remember the infection from FIVE freakin' weeks ago, it still hasn't healed)
I saw the surgeon's nurse yesterday for a follow-up and she gave me some ideas to help pass the time, address my Christmas cards and reorganize my recipe files. I laughed and remarked I just want to be able to do laundry or empty the dishwasher and extend and stretch my arm beyond my head...it's the little things, darn it! LOL
I am not an exerciser which is strange as I played three sports in high schools, many moons ago. But, even if I were, with the restrictions in place, I wouldn't be able to engage in them anyway.
Pam, I'm really taking to heart that the Taxol is easier! Hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment. I'm glad your daughter did well!
Garnetann, I so hope the antinausea meds work for you soon. What a trooper your husband is, I'm glad he's able to give you support with a sympathetic ear.
My scalp tingled and it felt each follicle was on pins and needles for about two days then my hair started falling out. After that, the tingling stopped...but, and this is weird, my hair is coming back in! My daughter shaved my head but it is definitely coming in again. I didn't think that would happen until I was completely done.
My parents are visiting for a few days so I'll check in when I can.
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Hi Dawn & Terry,
Just reporting in that I have had TH#5 and I'm feeling OK. Will leave to go to Colorado for a few days to join my husband & kids before flying back here for TH#6 on Monday. After the first 2 treatments where I had stomach side effects from the pre-treatment meds (steroid & Zantac), the others have been OK. I had to skip one week because of low WBC. This week I was borderline, so I'll have to eat lots of greens & take my Vit. B supplements.
I am starting to experience Neuropathy, so am increasing taking Glutamine.
I guess I was writing this to say Taxol/Herceptin is easier than AC, but it's beginning to sound like a pain :-)
I wish everyone well with their treatments and continued strength to get through this. Just count them down one at a time.
take care, Anna -
Hi all. Day nine and true to form, this morning I'm feeling a little better. I'm ready to get the last AC over and done with. I hope Taxol is easier.
Thanks to everyone's well wishes.
Terry, darn it, I hate that you are still having to deal with that infection I hope it gets better real soon. I can relate to not using the arm...I feel so bad, that for the 10 days I'm sick, I just forget to exercise it, so I'm not at full motion yet with my arm either.
BOY am I going to be ready to get this port out. I can't sleep on either side, so am relagated to my back...which I HATE. I don't sleep well either, one and a half hours at at time usually at night, then I'm up for a while, then back to sleep another 1 1/2 hours, then up...it sucks.
Dawn...I also was told not to change the cat box...please do check with your onc about that one. Too much bacteria.
Garnetan...I"ve been very nauseated through my AC's too, so can relate. All I can tell you is that once the AC's are done, they are done...so look for that light at the end of the tunnel.
OK>...I've been so busy feeling sorry for myself, that I think it's time we start listing the good things, as I've noticed others have done on the other threads.
GOOD THINGS:
I have a husband who has been here for me through this whole thing, thank goodness. He's been my strength.
I got to talk to my two little granddaughters yesterday on the phone. Although I haven't seen them since this all started, I cannot WAIT to get my hands on them, along with my two grandsons, whom I haven't seen either....BOY are they goign to get lots of hugs.
The sun is shining today and I woke up this morning..that's a HUGE good thing. One more day to try to do things right.
Hope this finds you all doing better.
Gracie -
Hi to All,
Gracie, you're right about remembering the positive things we have in our life. I usually try to keep those in my mind at all times, but I've definitely been slipping lately.
My husband is supportive in a quiet way. He doesn't always know what to say, but his way of helping me through this is "What do you think you can eat today?" and runs to the store for me for everything little thing. He also makes all the dinners, even the weird concoctions I request on a daily basis. He really has been wonderful. I also have two incredible daughters who are just the best company in the world. My oldest is home from college this summer and in between working at restaurant at night and hanging out with her friends, she hangs out with me on the sofa watching movies, the cooking channel, and things like "What Not to Wear." Sounds boring, but it is so much fun for me. My daughters are like best friends to me. I am very blessed.
Terry, I'm not sure why I thought you were a runner. I just can't remember all the information we shared in the beginning. I should go back and read, but I swear information stays in my memory for such a short time nowadays. I do remember the horrible infection you had and it still sounds like it's not completely healed. I would definitely restrict myself to make sure it heals and never comes back. Even the small amount of jogging I did yesterday worries me as I was so exhausted yesterday. I think I'll just keep walking for a while!
Anna and Pam, thank you for the information on the Taxol. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will be easier.
Dawn, I'll be two weeks ahead of you on the Taxol treatment. I'll keep you posted too!
Garnetann, I know the "I just want it to go away feeling." I don't think I had as hard a time as you have had, so I should consider myself lucky. I do think drinking as much as you can while you can helps as well. It seems the weeks I drank more I did much better. But I hate the taste of everything, so drinking is not easy. I really have to force myself.
Best wishes to everyone for a great week.
xoxo
Kathleen -
Now that you guys ALL have fussed at me I do remember that the box was a no-no. My boys usually take care of it as their daily chores but I was in there on a roll................ I won't do that again - promise!!
Terry - enjoy your folks visit!
Anna - guessing #6 will be HALF WAY DONE for you!! AWSOME!!!
Gracie - I agree with you, I'll be more than ready to get this port out and I can't believe it won't be till next summer!! & great idea about sharing our positives.
Kathleen - hoping taxol will be easier for you...........
I have a lot of support with family, friends and co-workers that I feel so blessed. #1 is my sweet husband. He's the one that gets to hear me whine since I try to keep the chin-up attitude most of the time and we all know how hard that gets to be especially when we feel like crap.
For fun - how about sharing any website that you also lurk/share on?
Lots of great ideas at www.organizedchristmas.com
AND there's 154 days till Christmas!!
Talk to you all soon!
Dawn -
Hi Dawn,
I'm not sure if #6 will be halfway for me. My doctor threw me for a loop when she mentioned the possibility of 16 TH treatments. Has anyone else's onc. discussed 16 with you?
- Anna -
I will really try the drinking more next time. Water tasted so bad, but someone suggested gatorade. And I made some of that crystal light but it was too sweet so I only made it half strength and it was a lot better. My DH keeps reminding me that by christmas, all this will be behind me. I will have finished radiation and start on the tamoxofen. It is kind of a good thought.
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Hi everyone. I am still waiting to hear from my onc's office on an appt. time. I called Mon. and they said I should get it checked out. I'm talking about my lump I found Fri. in my armpit. It continued to be sore and Sunday I started getting a red place where it is. I thought it was forming a "head" on it , but it never did. It is still there today , but not as sore. So , if I don't hear from them tomorrow , I will call again.
Hope everyone is feeling better. Hugs and Prayers , Melody -
Wow, great to see so many posts!! I am back at home after my vacation at the beach. I feel better now than I did on vacation but the timing couldn't be helped...
I am one of the ones that was a runner. I have not attempted to run during chemo. First of all, I just don't feel like it and second of all, I'm not sure it would be that good for me right now. It's really hot here and dehydration is a problem for "regular" runners so I think it would be dangerous. I mostly can't imagine where I'd get the energy! I do think walking is a good idea--I just haven't done it!
I'm still on east coast time and I'm on the west coast so I'm really tired and am heading to bed. Sorry I can't address everyone individually but it's good to hear from everyone and I love the positives too! Take care,
Cyndi -
Hi, Garnetann:
My hair hurt for the first two weeks that it fell out. It helps if it is shaved short, because there is less hair weight pulling on your follicles as it falls out. Now I am nearly bald and it just itches.
My positives:
First, I get to see my daughter again on Thursday! She has been in Philly with my parents.
Second, I had a gi-normous appetite today.
Third, my boyfriend is extremely supportive. -
Dawn, my daughter had the AC and the 12 Taxol and handled it all pretty good w/o many complaints except for being tired.
She also has started her Herceptin and so far no problems.
She was multi-focal, had two tumors on one side, one that was er, pr her2neu positive and the other tumor was triple neg.
She did end up testing positive for the brca 1 gene mutation that I have and also my 20 yr old daughter. -
Anna - haven't discussed the T/H since I started the A/C part - guess that will be after my last A/C on 8/2. I know it's 4 more trips than you want but I know you'll do whatever it takes to beat this! Let us know what happens.
garnetann - how about trying juice boxes or the different flavors you can add to water? I'm finding that if I just try a little of everything, SOMETHING will taste good and I go with it as much as possible. At the moment it's iced tea, after tx #2 it was cran-raspberry..................
Melody - hoping this turns out to be nothing - let us know when your appt is.
Welcome home Cyndi!!
Lisa - I can just see the smile on your face and I know you are impatient for Thursday to get here!!
Pam - glad to hear your daughter is doing well. She and I have the same problem with tumors being different....going to be interesting to see what our oncs put us on after the Herceptin.......... Will your 20yr old get tested for brca 1 also?
I'm sure you guys think I'm nuts but www.washfm.com is having Christmas in July - Christmas music all day!!
Dawn -
Hello to all,
Pam, can I ask, when did they test you for BRCA? I have two daughters, 20 and 19, and mostly want the test for their sake, but I'm not sure under what circumstances they recommend the test. And do you know, if I just want it done, can I request it whether they recommend it or not? Another question for my onc., but when I get in there I always forget most of what I want to ask! My heart is with you. It's hard enough to go through this for ourselves, but to be watching your daughter go through this has to be so difficult. It's great to hear she is doing well.
Hope everyone is having a great Wednesday!
xoxo
Kathleen -
Good Morning all,
Having a really bad hair day. Was a day to start wearing hats. I think I will atleast trim my hair shorter this evening after work. Have a much better appetite today, so going out for lunch. It seems like the treatments are getting shorter and shorter because the recover is getting longer. Hoping #3 is better. -
Garnetann, I suggest you cut your hair short, the shorter the better. It is quite a site and mess when it does fall out. My scalp was all red and looked sunburned til it finally started to really come out after treatment 2 with TC. Now it is maybe 85% out and isn't quite so messy since there is less to fall out.
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Mikeysmom, how was the beach? My extended family is nagging me to go on a beach vac next week which we planned many months before bc. I have no desire to sit on an East coast hot beach with no hair. Was it worth it? Seems people just want you to show up and pretend all is well and normal and it sure as heck is not.
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I went to my hairdresser after work and had her cut it off to about an inch. It feels so much better. And my scalp does not hurt nearly as much. You would not think a little hair could weigh enough to make your hair folicles hurt. Cutting my hair short before any of this started was definately the best decision. I used to have hair below my shoulders. But I got used to it shorter so it was not nearly the shock, just mostly uncomfortable when it started falling out.
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Hi Dawn, my 20yr old daughter was tested for the brca 1 mutation that I have just recently and she tested positive so atleast she is armed w/that information to stay vigilant and be watched. I believe she can start at 25 for mammos and mri's.
You would need to talk with a genetic counselor first and they will let you know if you would qualify and help you get everything set up.
Let us know what you find out!
There aren't words to describe how I felt when my daughter was dx, I will never get over it. I thought why not me again and then next month it was me again. Now this has also passed to my youngest but we are an aware and vigilant family so things should be fine.
Kathleen, I did a stupid thing. When I had bc the first time over 4 yrs ago the brca thing was fairly new and not alot was said. I asked about it but didn't follow thru and boy do I wish I had but I can't change that now.
It possibly might have made a difference w/my 38 yr old but maybe not. After I was dx she was about 34 so started her mammos early so that was good but hers was found this year by a mri, missed by the mammo! I didn't test until this year after being dx again. W/our family history and my daughter having bc I knew something was drastically wrong.
I'm going to give you a website http://www.facingourrisk.org/index.php
This is one of the best for explaining brca testing. Usually you have to have a family history. With your having breast cancer they would test you first to see if you are positive and if you were then they could test your daughters based on what mutation you had. The first test is expensive but my insurance covered 90%. It was much cheaper for my daughters, around $300.00. -
Good morning everyone,
Pam, thank you for the website. And you can't blame yourself for not testing four years ago. My doctors have not mentioned BRCA to me at all and my grandmother died of bc. That's the only history that I know of, but it is still there. I wouldn't know about BRCA if it wasn't for this website and the internet. There's new information everyday and I would hope our doctors are on top of it enough to suggest the things we should do. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to hear your daughter say she had bc. I feel like I can endure anything as long as my children never have to go through illness or tragedy. But unfortunately it's out of our control. I wish you and your daughters the very best. They are lucky to have such a great mom.
Anna (and Pam, maybe you can ask your daughter), do you get the metallic taste with the Taxol? I posted the question as well in another spot on this board. It's day 11 for me of my last AC and I still have the horrible metallic taste. I really hope it goes away with the Taxol.
Have a good day, everyone.
xoxo
Kathleen -
Pam - I'm so sorry all three of you tested positive but at least there is testing and knowledge is power as they say.
My oncologist pretty much insisted I get tested since I was 43 at my first dx AND I have no clue of my biological fathers family history as he chose to not be in my life - his loss. I tested negative and my oncologist recommended my daughter (just turned 25 last month) start mammos at 35 instead of 40.
Hope everyone is having a good week!!
Dawn -
Just came back from AC #3. My onc believes I'm responding very well and is considering changing the tx plan to 4 AC followed by mast, followed by 4 T. That will be determined by the surgeon after AC tx #4. I'm not sure why this is better than 4 AC followed by 4T and then surgery but I'm glad that those buggers are shrinking. I started out with a 6 cm mass which is now 3.3 cm. I asked if I was going to go through all the tests again (MRI, CT scan, etc.) but he said no since the shrinkage indicated the cancer was stopped in its tracks. I hope none of the horses left the barn before the chemo started working since it looks like I have some positive aux. nodes. He didn't know how many.
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Hi Kathleene,
Good news at least in my experience.... I had my first round of taxol 8 days ago, and the metal taste is gone. I can actually drink water again! Don't let anyone fool you however about Taxol being easier than A/C. Taxol has NOT been my friend. The first two days were great, feeling energetic without nausia but days 3 through 8 have been challenging to say the least. I have had terrible lower body aches, along with a loss of strength over all. All I want to do is sleep. My legs feel like they have lead weights attached... and I am an avid runner! I haven't had a good run since my second round of A/C... I try to get about two miles of walking in each day but not this past week. I went to the grocery store today and twenty minutes of low stress shopping wiped me out for the rest of the day. Listen to your body, and rest!!!!
Peace,
Terri -
Terri,
So there's good news and bad news...right now the taste is what I'm fearing most (besides something more serious), but I haven't felt that ache and extreme tiredness you had this last week. Because of running and soccer I thought I might avoid the acheyness you and others have mentioned, but it sounds like that won't be the case. But thanks for preparing me. I feel like we can't prepare enough. All the information I can get just better prepares me to fight the battle. ButI do look forward to liking the taste of water again!
xoxo
Kathleen -
Just curious, what determines whether a person gets Taxol? I was told I am only having 4-6 treatments of AC, depending on how I handle the side effects, he wants to try for 6. But he has not said I would have anything else. My tumor was 1.9 cm grade 2 and I was node negative, Her2-, PR & Er +. But he did say the cancer cells were in my lymph channels even though my nodes were clean. That is why he wants to do 6. I think. I am going to ask him these questions next thursday when I go for #3 anyway, just wondering if anyone had any imput.
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Shrink, such good news your tumor decreasing in size...woohoo, that deserves a celebration. I'm not sure what the difference is when surgery is scheduled. I wonder about the total faith we put in our medical care givers, you know? But, for me, I have to believe my drs know what they're doing!! That doesn't mean I don't question things but for the most part, "we" have to place that trust in them.
Pam, my twin (identical)had the BRCA testing done and it came back negative for her. I'm confused whether I should get it done or not...considering our genetic make-up *should be the same. I'm sure it was devastating for you when your dd was diagnosed. I couldn't imagine. {{{Pam}}}
Garnetann, I'm not sure how they determine what drugs for what cancer type. My tumor was 1.3 CM, ER- but PR + and HER 2 -. No node involvement and I'm getting Taxol after I finish with the AC. I think it harkens back to that *faith I talked about earlier...that they know what they're doing! HOw is the hair doing?
On to the good things, it is raining here! We need it really bad.
My mom and dad are coming up Tuesday to help since I had a rough time after my last infusion. It will take the stress off my husband somewhat.
And best of all....it's FRIDAY! :-)
No, no..that's not the best. The best is, my wound is almost closed, HOORAY. The nurse said probably another week and I'll be done. I'll be thrilled to wrap this up, today marks 6 weeks from the start of the infection. So that's the BEST news. LOL
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Garnetann, I forgot to mention that my tumor was a grade 3 for aggressiveness so I'm sure that factored into the decision to use Taxol too. If you ask you onc, would you mind sharing what he says?
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