Elizabeth Edwards for President!

Anonymous · July 2007

Amy, I can tell you I did NOT have good parenting from my parents. I wasn't physcially abused, but the emotional crap was enough. I wasn't allowed to really be a kid.

I have forgiven my parents for that because it does no good to hold a grudge. Sometimes I get "sad" knowing that my childhood was not the best. And neither was my brothers.

I have strived to be completely opposite than my mother. My children know how their grandmother was. Oh, I've made my share of mistakes. Butcha know what? Just knowing and hearing my children tell us that they KNEW we loved them and put them first makes me feel so great. There's no greater feeling that knowing your children love you and appreciates the things you did for them. Some kids seem to not recognize how good they have it.

My kids were not spoiled with "things" because we couldn't afford all the things other kids had e.g. CARS. They went to school with rich kids (private school) and never had a car. They went through college with no car. One of my daughters bought a $500 dollar car and was sooo proud of it. The other daughter bought her care AFTER college. My "third" daughter did get her dad's old Ford LTD (u-g-l-y) in her latter senior year in college because of an intern she had to do.

I realize that not all parents are going to give their best to their kids and that's plain sad. Then there are those who have no rules and do not want the school telling them what their kid can say and do.

Things have truly changed since I was a kid. I just shake my head.
Shirley

NoH8 · July 2007

It's hard to know what makes the difference between someone coming from your circumstances turning out as well as you have and not. My theory is that some of it is intrinsic and some is having other positive things in one's environment.
I too grew up in an abusive environment, but thrived in school which probably saved me. I went to college and never looked back. I bought my first car at 18 with money I had saved from babysitting.

Anonymous · July 2007

Amy, my oldest daughter and I were just talking about NOT having a car while growing up. Sometimes I think 16 yo is just too young. My daughter's boyfriend has a daughter who will be 16 soon. She's angry because her dad won't pay for her insurance. My daughter told him about having to buy her own car AFTER college and paying for her own insurance.

The important thing to us was making sure our girls had a very good education. It's a gift we wanted them to have.

Like I said, we certainly made our share of mistakes along the way. But they knew they were loved.

What you have done with your life should make you very proud. Just growing up is hard, but not having a good support system from our parents can certainly stunt that growth.
Shirley

NoH8 · July 2007

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The important thing to us was making sure our girls had a very good education. It's a gift we wanted them to have.

That's one thing that my parents did well. I was fortunate to be blessed with a high IQ and stubborn motivation to grow up and move away from my parents. I started planning my escape when I was 12 and that included an education so I could get a decent job and support myself. I was an ambitious kid and saved all my babysitting money and later my job money so I could afford to get away (I wish I could save not ). When my father told me I couldn't drive the car one night because it might snow (it didn't) I bought the paper the next day and got my own car. Stubbornness, a blessing and a curse .

Anonymous · July 2007

You started planning your escape at twelve. LOL I'm not laughing at you, but thinking how RESILIENT you were/are. Stubborness for you, Amy, seems like a blessing.

My girls are quite intelligent as well. However, they DO NOT get it from me. Their dad and Nana were the smart ones.

I hope, Amy, that you are very proud of whom you've become!
Shirley

NoH8 · July 2007

LOL--- I had a written list too-- of how I was going to accomplish this. I wish I had taken that, my diaries and the stories I wrote, when I left home.
Looking back, I guess I was a pretty amazing kid, I only wish I realized it at the time. Two weekends ago I attended my 25th high school reunion (I posted more about it on the lesbian forum) and it's amazing how perspective changes as we get older and (hopefully) wiser. If I knew then what I know now, I would have been a lot happier.
I bet your daughters got some of that smarts from you too. There are different types of intelligence than what's measured on IQ tests.

Anonymous · July 2007

Oh, Amy, I graduated 43 YEARS AGO! I'd hate to SEE how much I've aged. LOL

I'll have to go over to the Lesbian board and read more about your experience.

Yep, I do believe we do grow much wiser as each year passes. And, my children have given me some of that wisdom.
Shirley

Jinx · July 2007

Back to Elizabeth Edwards. I previously posted in this thread that Elizabeth will NOT ever do anything without prior campaign approval.

I worked in campaigns and I know exactly how it works. The campaign committee makes all decisions on what is said and how it's said, where and when it's said. PERIOD!

In my previous post, I said that it appeared to me (due to my campaign experience) that Elizabeth is being put in the forefront to compete with Hillary while her husband competes against the other candidates. (lots of reasons for that - major one being he won't look as though he's picking on a woman - that's just one of the reasons)

Today, the first news story I see this morning is that Bill Clinton spoke out on behalf of his wife, Hillary, AFTER Elizabeth Edwards criticized Hillary for not being a strong advocate for women.

Hmmmm - does look like Elizabeth is the Hillary attack dog.
And Hillary's campaign doesn't want it to look like a 'cat fight' between two women so Bill will be Hillary's attack dog when the occasion calls for it.

John Edwards LIED when on the Jay Leno show and he said that first he heard of his wifes call about gay marriage was when he read it in the paper - or did he say he heard it on TV? Believe me they had a staff meeting on that sunject before Elizabeth gave her opinion on gay marriage! She'll be the one to carry the Gay banner for the campaign.

I personally don't hold that against John Edwards since I worked in campaigns and that's how the buisness is run. Just wanted to point out that everything isn't as innocent as it appears in campaigns.

And Ann Coulter was given a 'head's up' that Elizabeth Edwards woud be calling. So the call was a 'set up' if you wish to call it that. I call it carrying out a prearranged campaign strategy.

Elizabeth has an image designed for her by the campaign. And that is to compete with Hillary and take on the 'little' campaign battles.

It's called campaigning! Pure and simple! I'm not a John Edwards fan but do love his wife! (he was called "Mr. Flip Flop" when he ran with Gore)

Anonymous · July 2007

Jinx, since you worked in campaigns I'm sure you know all the tricks. Here's how I see it...ya can't believe ANY of them ALL of the time. I'm not too excited about any of the candiates this years. Just have to wait and see what happens.
Shirley

Anonymous · July 2007

Jinx: Oh rocks, nails, and puppy dog tails. The reason I feel for EE is that she is going through this journey just like the rest of us. Too bad I didnt have someone telling me what to say, how to say it, and when. Cause some of the questions I get about breast cancer really hits me hard sometimes.

EE has breast cancer. She found out about METS right in the beginning of this campaign. She and her husband appeared on TV one day after this devastating diagnosis. She gave hope to many metsters that this can be conquered as a chronic illness. Of course she had campaign writers. Who the heck cares? She is one of us. I remember during that interview her saying "at least I know what Im going to die from."

Politics - Everyone has their opinions. Me - I probably wont know who Im voting for until I finially walk in that booth and cast my vote. Until then, everything is up for grabs.

Nicki

Emelee26 · July 2007

Here you go Nicki..lol

NoH8 · July 2007

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Back to Elizabeth Edwards. I previously posted in this thread that Elizabeth will NOT ever do anything without prior campaign approval.

I worked in campaigns and I know exactly how it works. The campaign committee makes all decisions on what is said and how it's said, where and when it's said. PERIOD!

Since you haven';t worked on EVERY campaign and you don't work on the Edwards campaign, how can you really know?

Anonymous · July 2007

Emelee:

Nicki

nosurrender · July 2007

Jinx is right. During a campaign everything is carefully scripted. They have "rapid response" teams who scan the news for every little thing happening and then decide how the candidate should respond in case he/she is asked about it.

It is Campaigning 101.

They ALL do it.

It is when a candidate goes "off script" that gets them in trouble !

Anonymous · July 2007

Scripted or not. EE had to go on television in front of millions of viewers and had to tell everyone she was just diagnosed with stage 4. Even with a script, I would have been crying my eyes out and she handled herself like the lady she is.

Nicki

Anonymous · July 2007

Yes, EE was very brave and I felt for her just like everyone here did. We know. I was in the "dumps" for a few days. But I couldn't vote for her DH.
Shirley

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