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  • homegirl
    homegirl Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2007

    I can't decide on a candidate. I like Hillary but I'm afraid she's not winnable. Go Elizabeth!!

  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2007
    It's way too early to pick a candidate. We won't know who we'll even have to choose from till after the early states next year weed out the ones they don't want. Then the primaries will weed out the rest.
    Heck, I don't even think the conventions mean much anymore, it seems it's all settled by the time they convene.
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited June 2007
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    I agree that EE is one classy lady. I saw the Leno show, she said she takes "a tiny yellow pill" every day, and has an injection every month. She said there have been no side effects and she feels great. She looks fantastic - her hair is grown out and she's lost a ton of weight.




    Isn't tiny yellow pill Femara? Could be getting Zometa or some bisphosphonate as well monthly.
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited June 2007
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    I love what Elizabeth Edwards said and did! She's got so much class and Ann Coulter has none. Ya know AC has got to be bad when even the republicans want to distance themselves from her.
    As for this being any comparison to Elisabeth and Rosie, I don't think the two are comparable at all. Rosie speaks up for the minority and for the troups and Elisabeth happens to have different opinions. Both are classy in different ways.




    AC has always been a piece of work --
    Kind of odd and appropriate referring to her with our term for the Red Devil-

    She's been pulling this stuff for at least a decade that I know of. I guess cable has added to her notoriety as well as her audience.

    Everyone points to her 25 most quotable comments but there are many more---She thrives on this stuff. Only question is whether to ignore her and not feed into it, but then it just seems to embolden her.

    Good for EE to take her on. Hats off to her!

    Read at your own risk!
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    Ann Coulter
    From Wikiquote



    Ann Hart Coulter (born December 8, 1961) is an American syndicated columnist, bestselling author, and television pundit. Her commentary has earned her a reputation as an aggressive critic of social and political liberalism.

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    * I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East and sending liberals to Guantanamo.
    o Her column; December 21, 2005
    o Governmental responsibility

    * We were terrified that Jones would settle. It was contrary to our purpose of bringing down the president.
    o Uncovering Clinton: A Reporter's Story (1998), pg. 183

    * If Americans support abortion, let's vote. . . Just this past term, in Stenberg vs. Carhart, the court expanded the apocryphal abortion right to an all-new right to stick a fork in the head of a half-born baby.
    o Her syndicated column, 12/28/2000

    * Taxes are like abortion, and not just because both are grotesque procedures supported by Democrats. You're for them or against them. Taxes go up or down; government raises taxes or lowers them. But Democrats will not let the words abortion or tax hikes pass their lips.
    o Her syndicated column, February 2, 2002

    * Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims.
    o Her syndicated column, September 28, 2001

    [edit] 9/11 widows

    * These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis... These self-obsessed women seemed genuinely unaware that 9/11 was an attack on our nation and acted as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them... I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much.
    o Excerpt which caused media controversy Godless: The Church of Liberalism June 2006 [1][2]

    [edit] Al Gore

    * If Gore had been elected president, right now he would just be finding that last lesbian quadriplegic for the Special Forces team.
    o Fall Fashion Preview: Cowboy Boots In, Flip-Flops Out ; October 14, 2004
    * I don't know if [former U.S. President Bill Clinton is] gay. But [former U.S. Vice President] Al Gore - total fag.
    o Media Matters; July 26, 2006

    The only place Al Gore conserves energy these days is on the treadmill. I don't want to suggest that Al's getting big, but the last time I saw him on TV I thought, "That reminds me — we have to do something about saving the polar bears."

    Never mind his carbon footprint — have you seen the size of Al Gore's regular footprint lately? It's almost as deep as Janet Reno 's http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

    [edit] Al Sharpton

    When reffering to Al Sharpton is a, "fat, race-baiting black men with clownish hairstyles" [1]

    [edit] Airport security

    * Airports scrupulously apply the same laughably ineffective airport harassment to Suzy Chapstick as to Muslim hijackers. It is preposterous to assume every passenger is a potential crazed homicidal maniac. We know who the homicidal maniacs are. They are the ones cheering and dancing right now.
    o This Is War; September 12, 2001

    * Six imams removed from a US Airways flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix are calling on Muslims to boycott the airline. If only we could get Muslims to boycott all airlines, we could dispense with airport security altogether.
    o AnnCoulter.com; November 22, 2006

    * We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.
    o This Is War; September 12, 2001

    [edit] Bill Clinton

    * Bill Clinton "was a very good rapist"; "I'm getting a little fed up with hearing about, oh, civilian casualties"; "I think we ought to nuke North Korea right now just to give the rest of the world a warning.
    o New York Observer, January 10, 2005

    [edit] Canada

    * [Canadians] better hope the United States does not roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes, November 30 , 2004

    [edit] Christianity

    * The Episcopals (sic) don't demand much in the way of actual religious belief. They have girl priests, gay priests, gay bishops, gay marriages — it's much like The New York Times editorial board. They acknowledge the Ten Commandments — or " Moses' talking points" — but hasten to add that they're not exactly "carved in stone."
    o The Jesus Thing; January 7, 2004

    * Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity (as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed').
    o From her column; March 4, 2004

    [edit] Court-ordered desegregation of schools

    * Few failures have been more spectacular. Illiterate students knifing one another between acts of sodomy in the stairwell is just one of the many eggs that had to be broken to make the left's omelette of transferring power from states to the federal government.
    o Ashcroft And The Blowhard Discuss Desegregation

    [edit] Dan Rather

    * What are the odds that Dan Rather would have accepted such blatantly phony documents from, say, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?
    o C-BS; September 16, 2004

    [edit] Darfur conflict

    * These people can't even wrap up genocide. We've been hearing about this slaughter in Darfur forever — and they still haven't finished. The aggressors are moving like termites across that country. It's like genocide by committee. Who's running this holocaust in Darfur, FEMA? This is truly a war in which we have absolutely no interest.
    o [3]; April 4, 2007

    [edit] Democrats

    * There are a lot of bad Republicans; there are no good Democrats.
    o Interview with Brian Lamb; August 11, 2002

    * Here at the Spawn of Satan convention in Boston, conservatives are deploying a series of covert signals to identify one another, much like gay men do. My allies are the ones wearing crosses or American flags. The people sporting shirts emblazened with the "F-word" are my opponents. Also, as always, the pretty girls and cops are on my side, most of them barely able to conceal their eye-rolling.
    o On the 2004 Democratic Convention; July 26, 2004

    * The Democrats are giving aid and comfort to the enemy for no purpose other than giving aid and comfort to the enemy. There is no plausible explanation for the Democrats' behavior other than that they long to see U.S. troops shot, humiliated, and driven from the field of battle. They fill the airwaves with treason, but when called to vote on withdrawing troops, disavow their own public statements. These people are not only traitors, they are gutless traitors.
    o New Idea for Abortion Party: Aid the Enemy; November 23, 2005

    * In the history of the nation, there has never been a political party so ridiculous as today's Democrats. It's as if all the brain-damaged people in America got together and formed a voting bloc.
    o Fork replaces donkey as Democratic party symbol ; January 12, 2006

    * I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word "faggot", so I — so kind of an impasse, can't really talk about Edwards.
    o Speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, Washington, DC, March 2, 2007
    o Coulter's Slur Against Edwards Stirs Outrage. WNBC.com ( March 4, 2007). Retrieved on 2007- 03-05.

    * In fairness to Edwards, asking a trial lawyer to name his favorite moral leader is like asking the president of Iran to name his favorite Jew. (Answer: George Soros.)
    o May, 3, 2007; http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

    [edit] Enviromentalism

    * The ethic of conservation is the explicit abnegation of man's dominion over the Earth. The lower species are here for our use. God said so: Go forth, be fruitful, multiply, and rape the planet — it's yours. That's our job: drilling, mining and stripping. Sweaters are the anti-Biblical view. Big gas-guzzling cars with phones and CD players and wet bars — that's the Biblical view.
    o Oil Good; Democrats bad; October 12, 2000

    * God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, 'Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It's yours.'
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes; June 20 , 2001
    o (References to Genesis 1:28. See also Dominionism)

    [edit] European Union

    * The "European Union" happens to be composed of people who hate our guts. It is the continent where Moveon.org-style lunatics are the friendly, pro-American types and the rest are crazy Muslims.
    o May, 2, 2007 [4]

    [edit] Evolution

    * I would like evolution to join the roster of other discredited religions, like the Cargo Cult of the South Pacific. Practitioners of Cargo Cult believed that manufactured products were created by ancestral spirits, and if they imitated what they had seen the white man do, they could cause airplanes to appear out of the sky, bringing valuable cargo like radios and TVs. So they constructed "airport towers" out of bamboo and "headphones" out of coconuts and waited for the airplanes to come with the cargo. It may sound silly, but in defense of the Cargo Cult, they did not wait as long for evidence supporting their theory as the Darwinists have waited for evidence supporting theirs.
    o Exclusive Interview: Coulter Says Book Examines 'Mental Disorder' of Liberalism; June 6, 2006

    [edit] Freedom of speech

    * They're [Democrats] always accusing us of repressing their speech. I say let's do it. Let's repress them. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the First Amendment.
    o University of Florida speech; October 20, 2005

    [edit] Immigration

    * I'd build a wall. In fact, I'd hire illegal immigrants to build the wall. And throw out the illegals who are here. [...] It's cheap labor.
    o Fox News; The O'Reilly Factor; Transcript via Media Matters; April 14, 2006
    o On illegal immigration

    [edit] Iraq War

    * I was not enthusiastic about the last Gulf war. Of course, it goes without saying, I rooted for our team once the shooting started. But I wasn't for that war. I was also against sending Americans to the Balkans. My point is, I'm genuinely against America deploying troops without a really, really good reason. I just can't imagine anyone not seeing 9/11 as a really good reason for wiping out Islamic totalitarians.
    o [5]; May 17, 2003

    * When we were fighting communism, OK, they had mass murderers and gulags, but they were white men and they were sane. Now we're up against absolutely insane savages.
    o [6]; August 16, 2004
    o War on Terror v. Cold War

    * … as for catching Osama, it's irrelevant. Things are going swimmingly in Afghanistan.
    o Responding to assertions about problems with Osama bin Laden and Afghanistan
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes, August 24 , 2006. video

    [edit] Islam

    * We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.
    o [7]" September 12, 2001

    * Point one and point two by the end of the week had become official government policy. As for converting them to Christianity, I think it might be a good idea to get them on some sort of hobby other than slaughtering infidels. I mean perhaps that's the Peace Corps, perhaps it's working for Planned Parenthood, but I've never seen the transforming effect of anything like that Christianity.
    o The Drudge Report ; June 26, 2002
    o From an interview with Katie Couric

    * They're never very high in anyone's caste system, are they? Poor little Pakis.
    o [8]; August 16, 2004
    o referring to expatriate Pakistanis

    * Bumper sticker idea for liberals: News magazines don't kill people, Muslims do.
    o [9]; May 18, 2005

    * One [cartoon] showed Muhammad turning away suicide bombers from the gates of heaven, saying "Stop, stop — we ran out of virgins!" — which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. Another was a cartoon of Muhammad with horns, which I believe was a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence. The third showed Muhammad with a turban in the shape of a bomb, which I believe was an expression of post-industrial ennui in a secular — oops, no, wait: It was more of a commentary on Muslims' predilection for violence ... Muslims are the only people who make feminists seem laid-back.
    o Calvin and Hobbes – and Muhammad ; February 8, 2006
    o Regarding the cartoon controversy

    * I think our motto should be, post-9-11, 'raghead talks tough, raghead faces consequences.'
    o At CPAC Conference; February 10, 2006

    * You know, ok. I made a few jokes — and they killed 3000 Americans. Fair trade.
    o At CPAC Conference Q&A; February 10, 2006
    o In response to using the term "raghead"

    * The amazing part of the great Danish cartoon caper isn't that Muslims immediately engage in acts of mob violence when things don't go their way. That is de rigueur for the Religion of Peace. Their immediate response to all bad news is mass violence. That's a "dog bites man" story and belongs on page B-34, next to the grade school hot lunch menu and the birth notices. After an Egyptian ferry capsized recently, killing hundreds of passengers, a whole braying mob of passengers' relatives staged an organized attack on the company, throwing furniture out the window and burning the building to the ground. Witnesses say it was the most violent ocean liner-related incident since Carnival Cruise Lines fired Kathie Lee Gifford. The 'offense to Islam' ruse is merely an excuse for Muslims to revert to their default mode: rioting and setting things on fire.
    o Muslim Bites Dog ; February 15, 2006
    o Regarding the cartoon controversy

    * Perhaps we could put aside our national, ongoing, post-9/11 Muslim butt-kissing contest and get on with the business at hand: Bombing Syria back to the stone age and then permanently disarming Iran.
    o Muslim Bites Dog ; February 15, 2006

    [edit] Law

    * The presumption of innocence only means you don't go right to jail.
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes; August 24 , 2001

    [edit] Liberals

    * Vester: You say you'd rather not talk to liberals at all?
    Coulter: I think a baseball bat is the most effective way these days.
    o (FOX News Channel, DaySide with Linda Vester, 10/6)

    * When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.
    o Conservative Political Action Conference; February 26, 2002

    * A couple [of] alleged males attempted to sucker punch a 100-pound woman and missed. And they ended up with their faces smashed in and spending the night in the Pima County Jail, where I'm sure — being good liberals — their views on gay marriage will serve them well.
    o The Sean Hannity Show; October 22 , 2004
    o Her feelings on having 2 protestors throw pies at her during a speech

    * The tolerant liberal suddenly becomes very intolerant when their official religion is challenged.
    o Online promotional material; June 6, 2006; accessed June 17, 2006

    [edit] Media

    * Would that it were so! ... That the American military were targeting journalists.
    o CNBC; Kudlow & Cramer; February 7, 2005

    * "Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the president"
    o (Version of her February 23, 2005 article, "REPUBLICANS, BLOGGERS AND GAYS, OH MY!" at her website
    o Universal Press Syndicate edited this line for distribution, changing the phrase "that old Arab Helen Thomas" to "that dyspeptic, old Helen Thomas."

    * I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly.
    o MSNBC, 22 March 1997
    o Quoted in " The Wisdom of Ann Coulter", The Washington Monthly , October 2001. URL accessed on 2007-04-09.

    [edit] Miers, Harriet

    * Harriet Miers isn't qualified to play a Supreme Court justice on The West Wing, let alone to be a real one.
    o "This is what 'Advice and Consent' means" ; October 5, 2005

    [edit] Military

    * Southerners are truly our warrior class.
    o ["McCain and the Flag"; February 15, 2000

    [edit] New York Times

    * My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.
    o New York Observer article; August 26, 2002

    * Of course I regret it. I should have added 'after everyone had left the building except the editors and the reporters.'
    o rightwingnews.com; June 26, 2003
    o On her (above) statement concerning Timothy McVeigh

    * [Learning difficulties are a cover for] rich parents with dumb kids...That's why 'Pinch' Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times, is alleged to have dyslexia - because he's retarded.
    o The Independent; August 16, 2004
    o Arthur O. Sulzberger, Jr., publisher of New York Times

    [edit] Republicans

    * You don't want the Republicans in power, does that mean you want a dictatorship, gay boy?
    o In response to a student's question: "You don't want the Democrats in power, so does that mean you want a dictatorship?"
    o Liberals Are Wrong About Everything; Indiana University, February 23, 2006

    [edit] Spying

    * Which brings me to this week's scandal about No Such Agency spying on 'Americans.' I have difficulty ginning up much interest in this story inasmuch as I think the government should be spying on all Arabs, engaging in torture as a televised spectator sport, dropping daisy cutters wantonly throughout the Middle East, and sending liberals to Guantanamo.
    o Live and Let Spy; December 21, 2005

    [edit] Stevens, Justice John Paul

    * We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens's creme brulee. That's just a joke, for you in the media.
    o Philander Smith College January 26, 2006 [10]

    [edit] Terrorism

    * If Chicago had been hit, I assure you New Yorkers would not have cared. What was stunning when New York was hit was how the rest of America rushed to New York's defense. New Yorkers would have been like, 'It's tough for them; now let's go back to our Calvin Klein fashion shows.'
    o [11]; May 17, 2003

    [edit] Women

    * I think [women] should be armed but should not vote...women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it...it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care.
    o Comedy Central; Politically Incorrect; February 26, 2001

    * It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted.
    o [12]; May 17, 2003

    * I think the other point that no one is making about the [Abu Ghraib] abuse photos is just the disproportionate number of women involved, including a girl general running the entire operation. I mean, this is lesson, you know, number 1,000,047 on why women shouldn't be in the military. In addition to not being able to carry even a medium-sized backpack, women are too vicious.
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes; May 5, 2004

    [edit] Voting

    * I think there should be a literacy test and a poll tax for people to vote.
    o Fox News; Hannity & Colmes; August 17 , 1997

    [edit] Quotes from books

    * Liberals' only remaining big issue is abortion because of their beloved sexual revolution. That's their cause: Spreading anarchy and polymorphous perversity. Abortion permits that.
    o Slander (2002); ISBN 1400046610

    * "Liberals hate religion because politics is a religion substitute for liberals and they can't stand the competition."
    o Slander (2002) ISBN 1400046610, p. 194

    * Liberals hate America, they hate flag-wavers, they hate abortion opponents, they hate all religions except Islam, post 9/11. Even Islamic terrorists don't hate America like liberals do. They don't have the energy. If they had that much energy, they'd have indoor plumbing by now.
    o Slander (2002) ISBN 1400046610, p. 5-6

    * "We'll drive off the side of that bridge when we come to it, Senator Kennedy."
    o How to Talk to a Liberal (2004); ISBN 1400054184 p. 147

    * "Finally, all the candidates are willing to sell out any of these other issues in service of the one burning desire of all Democrats: abortion on demand. If they could just figure out a way to abort babies using solar power, that's all we'd ever hear about."
    o How to Talk to a Liberal (2004); ISBN 1400054184 p. 49

    * Ozzy Osbourne has his bats, and I have that darn "convert them to Christianity" quote. Some may not like what I said, but I'm still waiting to hear a better suggestion.
    o Treason (2003); ISBN 1400050308

    * The only standard journalists respect is: Will this story promote the left-wing agenda?
    o How to Talk to a Liberal (2004); ISBN 1400054184

    * The Times was rushing to assure its readers that 'prominent Islamic scholars and theologians in the West say unequivocally that nothing in Islam countenances the Sept. 11 actions.' (That's if you set aside Muhammad's many specific instructions to kill nonbelievers whenever possible)
    o How to Talk to a Liberal (2004); ISBN 1400054184

    * Like the Democrats, Playboy just wants to liberate women to behave like pigs, have sex without consequences, prance about naked, and abort children.
    o How to Talk to a Liberal (2004); ISBN 1400054184

    * Our book is Genesis. Their book is Rachel Carson's Silent Spring, the original environmental hoax.
    o Godless: The Church of Liberalism (2006); ISBN 0978602412

    * I'm here, I'm not queer, and I'm not going away.
    o Lou Dobbs Tonight
    o On Godless: The Church of Liberalism (2006); ISBN 0978602412

    [edit] Quotes about Ann Coulter

    * She's a fascist party doll!
    o Objecting to Bill Maher's imminent tele-interview with Coulter
    o Richard Belzer, Real Time with Bill Maher [2.22] (episode 42), October 29, 2004; panel discussion with Maher, Kevin Costner, and Wesley Clark

    [edit] Unsourced

    * Conservatives believe man was created in God's image, while liberals believe they are gods. All of the behavioral tics of the liberals proceed from their godless belief that they can murder the unborn because they, the liberals, are themselves gods. They try to forcibly create 'equality' through affirmative action and wealth redistribution because they are gods. They flat-out lie, with no higher power to constrain them, because they are gods. They adore pornography and the mechanization of sex because man is just an animal, and they are gods. They revere the UN and not the U.S. because they aren't Americans — they are gods.

    * Liberals refuse to condemn what societies have condemned for thousands of years - e.g., promiscuity, divorce, illegitimacy, homosexuality.

    * This is the way addled liberals really think. Even as they champion sucking the brains out of little babies, they think of themselves as indelibly compassionate because they favor an overweening, behemoth federal government.

    * Conservatives have a problem with women. For that matter, all men do.
    o Cornell Review, 1984, reported in Time, April 2005, unspecified article

    * I have to say I'm all for public flogging. One type of criminal that a public humiliation might work particularly well with are the juvenile delinquents, a lot of whom consider it a badge of honor to be sent to juvenile detention. And it might not be such a cool thing in the 'hood to be flogged publicly.
    o MSNBC; March 22, 1997, unspecified program/segment

    * Canada has become trouble recently.

    * It's always the worst Americans who go there.

    * We could have taken them over so easy. But I only want the western part, with the ski areas, the cowboys, and the right wingers. They're the only good parts of Canada.

    * Because they speak French.

    * No wonder you guys lost.
    o MSNBC, 1996, unspecified date, , unspecified program/segment
    o To disabled Vietnam veteran Bobby Muller who made the incorrect statement that 90% of American soldiers "blown up" by landmines in Vietnam had hit American landmines. Coulter claimed that Muller was appearing by satellite and that she did not know he was disabled

    * My libertarian friends are probably getting a little upset now but I think that's because they never appreciate the benefits of local fascism.
    o MSNBC; February 8, 1997, unspecified program/segment

    * If those kids had been carrying guns they would have gunned down this one [teenage] gunman. ... Don't pray. Learn to use guns.
    o Politically Incorrect; December 18, 1997
    o Heath High School shooting (where a gunman killed 3 students at a prayer meeting at the school). When she said "Don't pray," Coulter may have been asked whether she approved of praying in school

    * [A] cruise missile is more important than Head Start.
    o From a speech, November 2001, rebroadcast by C-SPAN in January 2002, unspecific date, unspecified program/segment
    o Education spending vs. defense spending

    * In a war on terrorism, I could care less about regulating who sleeps with who.
    o On homosexuality

    * Then there are the 22 million Americans on food stamps. And of course there are the 39 million greedy geezers collecting Social Security. The greatest generation rewarded itself with a pretty big meal.
    o WorldNetDaily; December 2, 2003, unspecified article
    o Social security

    * We've been waiting 30 years to end the lunacy of nine demigods on the Supreme Court deciding every burning social issue of the day for us, loyal subjects in a judicial theocracy...We've gone from a representative democracy to a monarchy, and the most appalling thing is – even conservatives just hope like the dickens the next king is a good one.
  • JoanofArdmore
    JoanofArdmore Member Posts: 1,012
    edited June 2007
    Moronic of her to only be able to dig up the (unfitting ) epithat "faggot" for her Democratic enemies.
    Did you notice that her father was a union-buster? Nice teaching right from home days.
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007

    Thanks for posting that saluki, it's amazing to see all of her ugly words put together like that. I've never seen anyone who actually agrees with her,m yet she somehow manages to sell tons of books.

  • sherloc
    sherloc Member Posts: 1,047
    edited June 2007
    Hmmmm guess I am really out of touch with the world. I have no idea who Ann Coulter is.
    I'm a died in the wool Republican so I would never vote for EE but in my book she is one H...(cause we can't even use symbols anymore) of a lady.
  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited June 2007
    Hey Shirley....A fellow republican poking my head up here...LOL I was beginning to wonder if I was the only republican in the room.

    I know who Ann Coulter is, but even as a republican I am not comfortable with her at all. I think she is very bright, but uses WAY over the top stuff to make a point...not good in my book.

    I do want to say that many of the things above are gross and inflammatory, but some have been taken out of context to sound even worse than they were. Like the John Edwards comment...

    A bit before she made the comment, Bill Maher said he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack. Ann was making a reference to Bill's Comment when she said "If I'm gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

    In other words, liberals like Bill got away with saying it, but a uber-conservative like Ann get blasted for it. It was part of a much bigger conversation about what gets printed or talked about in the main-stream press. The reaction to her words as opposed to Bill’s just goes to prove her point. I think it is interesting that no one seemed to mine when Bill Maher used “hate speech” against the vice president of the US.

    Now, all that being said I am NOT an Ann Coulter fan. I think she is a reactionary bigot...BUT she has just as much right to her free speech as I have to mine...and I DO find the whole flame-war between the liberal camp and the conservative one to be so counter-productive. I think that there is a real silent majority of Americans that are clustered together in the middle ground thinking both extremes are nuts!

    Now I return you to the previously scheduled point-of-view….LOL
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007
    I think Bill Maher's point about Cheney was that there would be a lot less dead people in the USA and Iraq if Cheney had died in the a terrorist attack--- not that it makes it ok to say. Now me, I just wish he had never been elected .
    I agree with you about the counterproductiveness of the animosity between some of the liberals and democrats. Are you familiar with unity08.com ? I like the concept.
    I was quite disheartened during one of the republican candidate debates where some of the candidates were faulting others who were trying to bridge the gap between the parties.
    One of the reasons Obama is my guy is because I think of all the democratic candidates, he's the one who has made the most strides as trying to bridge the gap between the parties.
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    I second what I said before.

    I really, really, want to spit in this woman's face.
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited June 2007
    Quote:

    Hey Shirley....A fellow republican poking my head up here...LOL I was beginning to wonder if I was the only republican in the room.

    I know who Ann Coulter is, but even as a republican I am not comfortable with her at all. I think she is very bright, but uses WAY over the top stuff to make a point...not good in my book.

    I do want to say that many of the things above are gross and inflammatory, but some have been taken out of context to sound even worse than they were. Like the John Edwards comment...

    A bit before she made the comment, Bill Maher said he wished Dick Cheney had been killed in a terrorist attack. Ann was making a reference to Bill's Comment when she said "If I'm gonna say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot."

    In other words, liberals like Bill got away with saying it, but a uber-conservative like Ann get blasted for it. It was part of a much bigger conversation about what gets printed or talked about in the main-stream press. The reaction to her words as opposed to Bill’s just goes to prove her point. I think it is interesting that no one seemed to mine when Bill Maher used “hate speech” against the vice president of the US.

    Now, all that being said I am NOT an Ann Coulter fan. I think she is a reactionary bigot...BUT she has just as much right to her free speech as I have to mine...and I DO find the whole flame-war between the liberal camp and the conservative one to be so counter-productive. I think that there is a real silent majority of Americans that are clustered together in the middle ground thinking both extremes are nuts!

    Now I return you to the previously scheduled point-of-view….LOL




    But when Bill Maher says it you always know where he's coming from. He is a Political Satirist. Politically Incorrect and Real Time ----So when he crosses the line as he occasionally does-- he is more forgivable----or your mind says you've gone too far Bill-- But then, you continue to watch, but he walks a very edgy line. Sometimes he is as funny as it gets especially when he does New Rules. Sometimes a real hoot. Sometimes he makes you nuts but you are invariably drawn to the show.

    On the other hand AC is a political commentator and not trying to do political satire. She is venomous---nothing funny there.

    By the way this is coming from a Reagan Democrat. Mind you,
    I even voted for Senior Bush. Haven't a clue what party or who I'll vote for ---way too early. Although if Gore came back I'd probably be safely back in the fold.

    Susie
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007
    Susie, I just got HBO and rediscovered Maher from his politically incorrect days. He's a brilliant guy.
    I also think AC is intelligent (even though I disagree with almost everything she says)-- I just wish she used it in more positive ways. She's scarier to me because she's intelligent and spews hatred the way she does.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Well Im laughing because all of my life I have neither claimed to be Democrat or Republican. Dont know many of the Republicans running for President, but I always liked Guiliani and this new guy, I dont know his name, but hes the one from law and order. So for me, I could go either way - it will depend on the whim Im feeling closer to election time.

    Sherloc: Im with you. I never heard of AC before, but I did see a clip of her talking to EE and she was being really mean to her. Didnt like that one bit.

    BethNY: Oh you made me laugh twice with your post.

    image

    Nicki
  • BethNY
    BethNY Member Posts: 2,710
    edited March 2008
    Glad I gave you the double laugh.

    I'm super excited for this election.

    I wonder whats gonna happen if Bloomberg runs on the independent ticket...
    Hilary's got my vote, but she would REALLY REALLY have it if Obama was on the ticket as her VP.
  • saluki
    saluki Member Posts: 2,287
    edited June 2007
    If Bloomberg runs on an independent ticket it will really hurt Hilary.

    Hey, it wouldn't be advantageous for the moderate Republican Giuliani either. It would split his vote as well.

    Just when you thought that there was no way for the Democrats to loose -----

    Just remember what Ralph Nader did to Al Gore-----It wasn't a Florida hanging chad.

    The real difference as to who is sitting in the White House
    today is Ralph Nader.

    Thinking that could happen again----utterly fascinating, scary. Watch for the fireworks.
  • Kim6891
    Kim6891 Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2007
    I love EE and her husband. Right now I'm trying to figure out who will have the best chance for winning against the other side so that we can end this nightmare and I'm thinking he can do it. Not to mention I'll bet cancer research funding will be restored immediately! I agree about Ann Coulter. She is just pure evil. I wrote both Good Morning America and Chris Matthews and told them until they stop allowing hatemongers from any party on their shows, I won't be watching. And she really needs to stop that hair swinging thing. It and she are just not attractive. It reminds me of Cher when she was on the Sonny and Cher show.. dumb.
  • iodine
    iodine Member Posts: 4,289
    edited June 2007
    Well, I appreciated the list of her quotes, too. they were so over the top that I got a few laughs from them. Maybe she's just a comedian?? I mean---who could believe that anyone would that stupid?
    Hey, I'm an independent voter.*see, no capital letter*, so no set party for me. I get to laugh at all of them. I'm also fed up with all of them. They spend way too much time complaining about the "other" party and raisning money, and not enough time taking care of the country's business.
  • AlaskaDeb
    AlaskaDeb Member Posts: 2,601
    edited June 2007

    I read somewhere...can't remember where...that the money spent in one year on election advertising would fund K-12 education in the country for 6 or 7 months...something huge like that. Makes you kind of thing....

  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007
    Quote:

    I read somewhere...can't remember where...that the money spent in one year on election advertising would fund K-12 education in the country for 6 or 7 months...something huge like that. Makes you kind of thing....




    Or fund health care for the uninsured or do something positive for the country and the world. The money spent on getting elected is such a waste.
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007
    I guess I still don't think it's over for the dems yet and that Hilary is the shoo in. There's a lot of campaigning, debating and fund raising left to do.
    I'm afraid she's too polarizing to be elected president and the polls seem to indicate she has a high unfavorable rating. I worry that she'd bring out the masses of republicans who might not vote if she wasn't running. I'd rather see Bloomberg or Guiliani elected that Romney or Fred Thompson. At less the NY coningent is prochoice and pro gay rights.
    The only reason I'm registered dem and not independent is because in my state we have closed primaries, meaning as an independent I'd have no say in the candidate and since I'm much more likely to vote democrat vs republican, I have that affiliation.
  • marshakb
    marshakb Member Posts: 1,664
    edited June 2007
    Same with me Amy. Only reason I am registered as a Republican is so I can vote in the primaries. I vote across party lines many times. It is way too early for me to decide on who I will vote for. I will never be totally happy with my choices, no one else seems to think exactly as I do LOL. BTW I do believe in a womans right to choose, I support gay rights, and despise the Ann Coulters of the world.

    And I agree, if Hillary is the dems choice, alot of republicans will come out in masses to vote WHOEVER is running against her.

    Dotti, I laugh at all of them too!!!!!!!! LOL

    Deb, the money spent is obscene.
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited June 2007
    Quote:

    BTW I do believe in a womans right to choose, I support gay rights, and despise the Ann Coulters of the world.


    yay!
    These days I'm voting more on social issues than anything, because I feel that my rights and the rights of others have been under attack. A friend and I were talking the other day about how much more political we became since politics got really ugly during monicagate-- which I mostly sided with the moderate republicans on. It seems like that drew out the very extreme religious right and the real ugliness began, which I hate.
  • marshakb
    marshakb Member Posts: 1,664
    edited June 2007

    Well Amy I hope you will keep in mind that the very extreme religious right is a very small minority of Republicans. Unfortunately they have the loudest voice. Along with the screaming liberals in the Democratic party, a small number of the whole party who speak louder than the majority.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Ann Coulter says what she says to raise the hair on the back of your necks. I'm not saying it's right, but that's why she does it. Who would know her if she didn't?

    I'm tired of the mud slinging. Social issues are of great importance, but right now [especially] after the news in the UK about the cars with bombs in them and then the one that tried to run through the airport in Scotland, terrorism is of great concern.

    I am pro-life. Too many people are using this as a form of birth control. Many years one of my friends got pregnant while she and her husband were going through a very bad time in their marriage. They planned both children and somehow she got pregnant. She said she wasn't trying to "trick" him. Anyway, he told her if she would get an abortion he would stay with her. She believed him. They went out of town for the abortion and, yes, you know the rest of the story. However, she is much better off without him and we never speak about her abortion. I was the only one outside she and her "then" husband that knew.

    I am a registered Republican. However, I vote for the democrats as well. I don't pull the "switch." I suppose you might call me a moderate/conservative. Sorry.
    Shirley
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Shirley: We sorta did get away from the topic. I would still vote for EE though.

    This new Terrorist thing is just awful. And why target innocent people? Just wonder what in the world is really going on and how in the world can we really stop it.

    Politics? Like I mentioned earlier. Im not Democrat or Republican. Guess I might be considered moderate liberal? I think there are alot of interesting people out there in both parties trying to be our next President. I dont like when they bad mouth each other. During our local elections here in Illinois there was alot of mudslinging going on.

    Abortion is another touchy topic. Me - I wouldnt have one myself, but I think every woman should have the right to choose. I vehemently oppose late term abortion though.

    Nicki
  • ijl
    ijl Member Posts: 897
    edited July 2007
    It's called "freedom of speech". That is the thing I enjoy the most about United Sates. I came with my family 27 years ago from Soviet Union , when it was still Soviet Union.
    So whether we agree with people or not , we need to let them speak. Silencing opposing voices leads to fascism and communism.
  • Toronto
    Toronto Member Posts: 118
    edited July 2007
    Abortion as a means of birth control is painful, to say the least. Those who say it is used lightly have probably not experienced or witnessed one.

    Pills, condoms, diaphragms are a whole lot easier.
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited July 2007
    Quote:

    Well Amy I hope you will keep in mind that the very extreme religious right is a very small minority of Republicans. Unfortunately they have the loudest voice. Along with the screaming liberals in the Democratic party, a small number of the whole party who speak louder than the majority.



    I try to-- it's getting easier now that the more moderate republicans seem to have gotten louder voices.
  • NoH8
    NoH8 Member Posts: 2,726
    edited July 2007
    None of the women I know who've, only had abortion used it as birth control, in fact, two were on birth control when they got pregnant, one was raped, one was a teen pregnant with her father's child and the others had various reasons. I have a friend who gave herself two abortions, before abortion was legalized . The one who used it as birth control was perplexing, the had 9 at the time I worked with her, and definitely wasn't proud of it. As much as I dislike the idea of abortion as birth control, I will fight for her right to do so. She had a few children, was married at the time and barely did an average job with the children she did have. Her teen daughter wondered why her mom chose to have her and not abort her. It was a sad sitaution all around.
  • kate99
    kate99 Member Posts: 8
    edited July 2007
    wow. you know alot of people who had abortions.
    i only know one.

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