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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Oh Liz, what a great picture of you in your cap and gown! Way to go!

    AmyA and LeeAnne - I can relate to those darned SE's! I agree Amy - it is so easy to stay "up" when you're feeling well physically! When you're feeling like krap - the mood is soon to follow - at least in my case! Today is day 7 out of tx #3 and I have the "my muscles have been beat with a shovel" feeling and of course, always the residual nausea/unsettled stomach. Ice cream tastes good though!

    Hope everyone feels well on this Monday - take care,
    Mandy
  • lnmshoes
    lnmshoes Member Posts: 17
    edited June 2007
    Congratulations Liz! You inspire me.
    Welcome Suzanne.
    Someone asked a page or so ago about her nose running.. mine has been too and I thought it must be because of losing the hair there. I feel exactly the same keeping a kleenex close by.
    I had DD A/C #3 last wednesday and this weekend was alittle tough. nausea feeling and tired but today I was feeling much better. I had some very uncomfortable constipation.
    Thanks to all for being here.
  • ucancallmered
    ucancallmered Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2007
    Quick hello. Treatment #2 went well. So far, so good--except my knees are achey. That happened on day 3 of my first round. Does anyone else have achey knees?
    Off to bed early.
    Suzanne
  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited June 2007
    Mary S., I'm the one with the runny nose. Really dry, red eyes, too. And Suzanne, I had achy knees too, I think due to the Nuelasta shot. Always the sorest when I laid down at night on my side, so they were laying one atop the other.

    Liz, how was the hat & hair at the gym?

    I managed almost an entire day at work today (I wasn't super brainy, but hey, I was there!) but driving home was sort of surrealistic. I felt like I had to just take it reallllllly easy. Thank goodness I don't have to deal with intense traffic!

    A very big positive: when I got home the sun was out and shining on my hot tub and I cracked a nice bottle of ginger ale and sat in there for a nice long time just enjoying the warmth. Sometimes it is the simplest things...

    Hugs,
    LeeAnne
  • ucancallmered
    ucancallmered Member Posts: 7
    edited June 2007
    I took Tylenol for my knees and an anti-nausea pill before I went to bed--feel good this morning. Looking forward to going to work for the distraction.

    LeeAnne, thanks for the info on the achy knees.

    Liz, please let me know how it goes wearing the baseball cap at the gym. My office is having a picnic on Friday and I'm trying to work up the nerve to wear a ball cap, rather than my wig. I don't have a special hat yet--the ones that come down further in the back--so my buzz cut will be showing in the back.

    I don't really want to take the Compazine--just in case I had the photosensitivity reaction rash to that rather than the Taxotere--so I'm trying another anti-nausea drug. Has anyone else had problems with Compazine or a photosensitivity reaction to anything else?

    Time to get ready for work--fixing my "hair" doesn't take long at all--just shake, apply, and go!

    Happy Tuesday,
    Suzanne
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Hi everyone,

    Suzanne - you're right - it sure doesn't take long to get ready anymore without hair - I never realized how much time I spent washing, conditioning, shaving, blowdrying, straightening etc. until I became hairless! People say "oh you'll be spoiled once your hair comes back and you'll be wishing you were bald again!!" I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT!!

    Liz, I wear a bandana at the gym and of course my hat to run in but I am about to start playing beach volleyball in July and am afraid that I will let my vanity prevent me from playing my favourite sport! I don't know what to wear on my head that won't fall/fly off when I'm running, jumping and diving in the sand! I would be very embarassed if my bald lumpy head were exposed! I need to make an announcement to the entire league that I am undergoing chemo, I am bald and this is what I look like (revealing head) so that if it does happen, no one will freak out! Because I don't know about you guys but when I do show people my head 'au naturel' - they do have a look of shock on their faces (as I did the first few times too!) Anyways, I'm sure that I'll be so worried about my scarf falling off that it will inhibit my ability to play well...so maybe I won't be playing this year after all! The outdoor league is full of young hot bodied people (I am neither) and I would be so self concious there. It's too bad I'm such a chicken because my hair has always been such a pain in the butt when I play beach v-ball due to the wind blowing it in my eyes, etc. - playing bald would be great! Maybe I should buy a t-shirt advertising a local competitive swim team and people will think I'm a competitive swimmer! (lol)

    Well, I've been whining for days now so thought I should post some positives for a change!

    1. I'm going to the Look Good Feel Better class today (this means FREE COSMETICS!)

    2. I had a great time with my kids last night - the three of us just hung out. We went to the dollar store, hung out by a field full of wild rabbits and a pond with geese. Then we came home and I taught them how to play blackjack! We just laughed and laughed!

    3. My hubby who was supposed to be out of town over night ending up coming back home so I got to cuddle with him after all!

    4. I am feeling better and think I have turned the corner on this round's SE's (fingers crossed)

    Happy Tuesday everyone!
    Mandy
  • ocinny414
    ocinny414 Member Posts: 123
    edited June 2007
    Congratulations Liz. I know how I felt when I graduated back in 2001 at the age of 31, newly divorced with 3 kids. Its an awsome feeling. Not sure if I would be able to do it again, but I did it. So a big Hug of congrats.

    I'm up for tx3 today. Have to leave here in about 2 hours, cant decide what munchie foods I want to take along. I took wheat thins the first time and frosted mini wheats the 2nd time. Just something small to munch on cause after about 30 mins of sitting in the chair the steroid kicks in and I get hungry.

    Couple of questions:
    1. I've read some of you talking about a pump, What is it and what is it for?
    2. What is the Marinol for?
    I'm not taking any extra drugs except my daily vitamin and the l-lysine and stool softeners.
    Then the day before, day of and day after treatment I take Dexamethason and usually for one or two days I have to take the Nausea meds.

    Well time to start getting ready, need to eat something and get my son out of bed. He's going with me today, he wasnt going to go then I told him if I needed a ride home he would get to drive my car. LOL aren't kids great. Have a great day and I'll post how I'm feeling later.

    CindyKS
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited June 2007
    Well I gave up on the underhair for the gym and wore a buff in the "scull cap style". It's coolmax so I think it's perfect for the gym. But it's a crazy green pattern so maybe I should get some other colors and patterns. I concluded that worrying about the underhair coming out of my cap would be too much of a bother. So buffs and scarves for the gym I think.

    CindyKS--that's a great achievement while raising 3 kids alone! I am married and only have pets to take care of--no kids--and I studied all the time for 2 years. But it sure does feel great when it's done.

    Mandy, I would hate to hear that you gave up something you love to do because of your baldness. I certainly know the impulse to not want to deal with it, but come on, we have to live our lives as fully as possible, you know? But I can understand if worrying about the head covering can interfere with the enjoyment of the activity. Have you tried buffs yet? They're pretty sporty--more than a scarf and there are different styles to wear them in, so you can find one that works for you. I should go into marketing, no?
  • chumfry
    chumfry Member Posts: 642
    edited June 2007
    Liz, I was thinking the same thing for Mandy. I'll go you one better in the marketing department and post a link! LOL

    http://www.buyabuff.com/
  • chumfry
    chumfry Member Posts: 642
    edited June 2007
    BTW, here are some videos about how to wear a Buff if you've never heard of them, which I hadn't until a few weeks ago. The bloopers are funny!

    http://www.buffusa.com/waystowear.html
  • chumfry
    chumfry Member Posts: 642
    edited June 2007
    Although my favorite hat/scarf thing has been the headcovers sewn by this lady.

    http://www.sewinj.com/

    Gosh, I'm in full marketing mode here today! LOL
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited June 2007
    Hey girls,

    Thanks for all the links, CindyMN! I never heard of a buff before, so I learned something new today. Is it a Canadian thing, maybe? I'm down here in the 48, and not hanging out with any skiers or other west coast athletic types, either.

    CindyKS, you probably heard about the pump and the Marinol from me. I'm going to be using both after chemo this time because I've had such a hard time with my first 2 tx. The pump is about the size of a portable tape recorder, and it's loaded with anti-nausea drugs and whatever else the onc wants to put in there. Then it's attached to my port by a tube, and automatically dispenses drugs at regular intervals. If I want more than what I'm given automatically, I can press a button and get more up to 4 times an hour. The Marinol is the only drug I'll be taking orally, I think, and it's synthetic marijuana. It's supposed to help with nausea and lack of appetite. My first 2 tx's I threw up about 8 times each, and ended up having to go to the ER both times. So this time we'll try the pump and see what happens. If I still have trouble, I'll be having my last 3 tx's as an inpatient. My onc says only 2% of people end up needing a pump, so I guess I'm "special"! Oh well, what can you do? I read online about Marinol, and in several places it said something about how it should only be prescribed when all other options have been exhausted. Not sure why that is, but apparently I fall into that category now.

    I got my underhair trimmed today so it's chin-length, and I love it! I'll get a picture soon and post it so you can see. I'm going to wear it to teach lessons today, I like it so much.

    All for now,

    Amy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Liz, looks like CindyMN kicked your butt in the marketing area! (grin)

    Maybe I'll rethink the v-ball decision...who knows? The buffs look like they'd be pretty loose - are they? Maybe I'll get a tough biker chick motif and then if it does fly off people will see my stubble and not even consider messing with me! I can also buy some temporary tats! I'd scare the krap out of all those teenagers/early twentiy somethings! This grizzled 42 year old...that would be funny!

    Speaking of funny - when I was reading these posts - I misunderstood "underhair" for "underARM" hair and thought why the heck is Amy having her underarm hair trimmed? (and CHIN LENGTTH?? HOLY COW!) Ha ha!

    Just came home from the LGFB class...interesting - I feel a little like a clown right now as they had us put on all the makeup (all 27 steps - well, it FELT like 27 steps) and I don't wear very much at all (eyeshadow and lipstick - sometimes) but I did learn a thing or two. I can't wait to go through my bag of goodies!!

    Take care all!
    Mandy
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited June 2007

    Mandy, No the buff isn't loose--it's skin tight but not uncomfortably tight. I bought the summer buff. It has SPF which is great for our photosensitive bald scalps in summer. You may have to experiment with the styles to find the best style for your activity.

  • mmilko
    mmilko Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2007
    Hi ladies. Though I had my lumpectomy in March and started chemo May 9, this is my first post on this board. But I feel I know you all pretty well, as I read the whole 19 pages over the past several weeks! Actually, I wanted to read it all before posting, but the board grew quicker than I could get to reading it all. You gals are so much more informative than the nurses or the onc.

    LeeAnne, I always looked for your input because I have a special love for Portland, and your posts always reminded me of last year when I worked from home in NJ and traveled monthly to Portland for my project---awesome place---I miss it terribly. I spent some weekends there just to check out the incredible nature (not to mention Edgefields, Kennedys, and the wonderful restaurants and transport system).

    But LeeAnne, I especially wanted to tell you that I also have awful teary eyes draining into my nasal passage. Thought it was a cold coming on a week ago, and here I am 7 days later with the tears pouring down my cheeks from the A/C. Nothing works for me. In church our pews face each other, and everyone thinks I'm crying through mass - many come over afterwards and give me hugs and support. At my daughter's HS graduation Friday, everyone thought I was crying, but no....just the lousy dry eye (funny name for a condition that just makes you leak). Did you get any insight into how to deal with this condition? I can't endure it for another several weeks. Think what it will do to my crow's feet!
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited June 2007

    Hi Mar_in_Jersey. Welcome.

  • PDXLeeAnne
    PDXLeeAnne Member Posts: 119
    edited June 2007
    Hi Mar in NJ, welcome and I will try and refrain from Bon Jovi references! Out here in Portland, yup, we have nature but you have JON! LOL!

    Glad to know I'm not the only one with eye issues. Mine aren't leaking all that much right now but they are super blurry. Makes reading tough and driving an adventure. My nose, however, continues to be one long drip (aren't you all glad I shared?)

    Good to know we're getting more of y'all on the Buff wagon. I have 3 and they are the fastest, most comfortable headwear, IMO. I've gone to straight out bald around the house anymore, though. I think I like the shock factor, actually.

    And Mandy, LOL at your misreading of Amy's underhair. Too funny.

    I managed 6 hours of work today and then had a really good acupuncture appointment, if good is gauged by the sheer number of needles. I just got back from a nice walk and I'm anticipating a good day tomorrow. I'm hopeful that I can sleep with just Ativan and no Compazine as the C totally fries my brain the next day and I can't be so stupid for work every single day.

    I want my vision back!!!

    Hugs,
    LeeAnne
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited June 2007
    Hi Mar! Can't help you with the teary eyes--that's a SE I haven't had yet. But welcome to our group! We're glad to have you.

    Mandy, I cracked up at your underarm hair thought!! HA!!!

    That reminds me of something funny/pathetic. The other night I googled "anti-emetic pump" just to see what more I could find out about it. In all the 6 pages or so of links that I looked through, ONE was related to a normal chemo regimen rather than to people receiving high-dose chemo or children going through chemo. And you'll never guess what that ONE link was--it was MY post to you guys, telling you about the pump!!! LOL!! How sad is that?? Even on Google I can't find anybody but MYSELF who needs one.

    Positive for today--one of my violin students' moms made me SUSHI!! I love love love sushi, even when it's the non-raw kind (I love the "real" stuff too). I've been sitting here eating it non-stop since I came home. YUM.

    Amy
  • aimster1123
    aimster1123 Member Posts: 200
    edited June 2007
    Hey Mar,

    I just noticed that our dx's are almost identical--my tumor was 1.3 instead of 1.4. And I started chemo on May 10, the day after you. What is your chemo regimen? Are you every 3 weeks or every 2? I'm doing FEC X6, every 3 weeks, so tx #3 is in 2 days.

    Amy
  • ocinny414
    ocinny414 Member Posts: 123
    edited June 2007
    Welcome Mar.

    Had tx 3 today. Feeling ok so far. I'm hungry all the time right after the tx think it must be the steroids. I've had a little heartburn this afternoon. Hope that doesnt continue. Might have been something I ate so will waite and see. I'm hoping the SE's only last a couple of days like they have with the last 2 txs.
    My son went with me today so now he knows what it's all about. We took the laptop and watched Anger Management. Ended up having to bust out the headphones cause other people came in and were watching tv.
    There was an older lady probably 60's that was completely bald. She said she went to her hair dresser and told her she wanted a cut, perm and color. guess the hair dresser just looked at her funny. She doesnt cover her head says its alot cooler that way. I dont blame her, Kansas is hot and with all the rain we've had its been really humid. Once I shave my head the rest of the way I'm gonna probably go bald as well. I bought some self tanning lotion with and spf of 20 or so today so my head can catch up to the rest of me. I'm really not very tan, just what little I get from wearing tshirts all the time.
    Well I'm gonna take my benadryl and try and get some sleep. I sure hope it works, I'm getting tired of being tired all the time.
    Good luck to all who are up for tx's this week,

    CindyKS
  • mmilko
    mmilko Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2007
    Thanks all for the welcome.

    CindyMN, you inspired me with your sales....watched all the videos....then went to headcovers.com and got 2 sets of bangs (thin and wide), a monk do (LOL), and a wierd retro bathing cap--I wonder if you all are planning to swim and in what covers.

    LeeAnne, yes, my nose is runny....that's how I found out I had this....started with what I thought was a cold. Then the eyes. I searched the internet and found that it drips from the eyes down the nasal passage. Yeesh! I am wondering if an accupuncturist can help...maybe you can ask yours (please let me know what they say).

    Amy, my regime is 4 AC every 3 weeks (tomorrow #3). Then I need to decide whether or not to get the Taxol. I'm looking for a reason not to get it due to the SEs and especially since I was node negative. Anyone out there have any advice?

    Lastly, I want to share something and give thanks. After tx#1 and the neulasta, on day 4, I had pain in my neck that went up the back of my head (thought it was menangitis), and my ears were ringing real loud. I figured in the morning I would either be dead or head to the onc office. I did the latter (of course...I'm here). This beastly nurse treated me like a hypocondriac saying "what's the worst it could be" and with a snide smile! She said it was probably the way I slept or it was anxiety, and she told me to take an anxiety pill and a walk. I left there crying, took an anxiety pill, went to the Wellness Community for yoga and relaxation classes. Then I went onto this board and one of you mentioned the same symptom with the head/neck, and said it was the neulasta. Gees, I had to find out here what the beast did not know to tell me. So many thanks!!!

    Nite, nite! Mar
  • mmilko
    mmilko Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2007

    Oh, by the way, here's my pic....with the old hair, taken outside of my beloved Portland...at the sturgeon pond at the Bonneville Hatchery. I don't have the nerve to take one with my lollipop head wig. Now g'nite!

  • cinrae123
    cinrae123 Member Posts: 419
    edited June 2007
    Hi girls,,,,,,,
    I too have the watery eyes. I wasnt sure if it was a cold coming on or what. I do the taxotere and carboplatin,,,,so I am wondering if it is from that. I got new contact lenses and lately it just doesnt seem that I see that well up close. Could it be from the watery eyes? And does it get better or worse as time goes on. Coming up for tx 3 on Monday. Have been feeling really good this past week. Went to an Angel baseball game tonight. Had a lot of fun. But am stuffed,,,,,,I ate wayyyyyyyyyy too much there. lol
    Good nite,,,,,,,,,,,Cindy
  • mmilko
    mmilko Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2007

    I searched the internet and talked to lots of people who just said they had to deal with the tears. One told me of his father who he golfed with and saw the tears flowing down his cheeks. On the internet I found mention of Viscotears liquid gel and a night treatment called Lacri-Lube (makes your eyes blurry, so should use before sleep). I also saw something on Minims (steroid drops-prednisolone sodium phospate 5%). I plan to ask my onc about these today. But if I hear again that I just have to deal with it, I'm interested in the nonconventional stuff - accupuncture. I hope this helps others.

  • mmilko
    mmilko Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2007
    Here's a reference to where I found some info regarding the tear problem.

    http://www.breastcancercare.org.uk/conte...8&topic=472
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited June 2007

    Question for the neo-adjuvant ladies: is your onc doing any tests like ultrasound or anything after the first month to see if this is actually working? Mine says he'll wait until two months and do an mri but isn't it kinda disturbing to wonder whether the cancer is getting better or worse for two months? I know we've had this in our bodies for years, but I worry a little.

  • cinrae123
    cinrae123 Member Posts: 419
    edited June 2007
    ok,,,,,,i have a dumb question,,,,,,,,,,,what is neo adjuvant? I've seen those words here before but dont know what that means...........
    Thanx,,,,,,,,,,Cindy
  • lizzzy
    lizzzy Member Posts: 285
    edited June 2007

    Neo-adjuvant: It just means we have the chemo before the surgery.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited June 2007
    Well, ladies, I am now officially cool! I just bought two - that's riught TWO buffs ( I got Temple and some other one with blue turtles on it) The fellow I spoke with on the phone assured me they would be perfect for beach volleyball (huge grin!) I can't wait to see them - they look really beautiful - AND they are a Canadian company (How cool!) I didn't have to do the exchange for a change!

    So, thanks for the tip! I am going to try a run (another huge grin!) in the warm afternoon sun...today is a good day!

    Mandy
  • sunshine123
    sunshine123 Member Posts: 31
    edited June 2007
    Hey, everyone. I just stopped by to check in and see how everyone's doing.

    Since the margins weren't clear on my last excisional biopsy, I'm headed to the O.R. this Friday for surgery on my R chest wall (I already had a mastectomy -- the cells are growing in the subcutaneous tissue). Hopefully THIS time they'll get clean margins and get all those stupid cells OUT.

    I'm due for A/C #4 next Wednesday (I can't wait!). And I'll have radiation after that. I'm supposed to have radiation for 5 weeks, and then start Taxol and Herceptin.

    Other than feeling tired, I don't have terrible physical symptoms. But the emotional strain of biopsies, path reports, boredom, and anxiety are really taking their toll. I've had to take more Xanax than I thought I would, but I guess whatever gets us through is worth it...

    Hugs to you all.

    sarah

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