Here goes..... Anyone estraged from their mother?

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stacey2930
stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
I was going to write "Dear Abby" but thought there are plenty of "abby's" right here! I just need some insight. Its a loooog story.
My mother was emotionally and sometimes physically abusive to me as a child the emotional abuse continued as an adult. She has a borderline personality disorder and unable to truely bond to anyone due in part by her traumatic upbringing raised in an orphanage, her mother was also abusive. Its the whole cycle of dysfuntion thing. For years I took the crumbs of affection she threw my way without ever bringing up the painful things she did to me. Over and over again I would come to her rescue when she down and out. She has alienated all her old friends and my sister hasnt spoken to her in years. I still needed a mother no matter how broken she was. Its funny those of us that really never experienced a mothers love spend our lives trying to get it? Well to make a long story a bit shorter. When I was diagnosed with BC in 2005 I called her again thinking this would be the time she comes running to her daughter with love and support. Once again, she turned her back. She got angry over something I said got her suit case and walked up to me and told me to " take care" and I didnt hear another word from her. I havent really spoken to her since. Now that its mothers day I cant help but feel sad. I once again want to reach out but I know she will only hurt me again. I still want what I never had. Thank God I never did to my children what she did to me. The cycle was broken, finally. Anyway, thanks for being there.

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  • Doc
    Doc Member Posts: 56
    edited May 2007
    Very sorry you had to deal with this. I am similarly estranged from my father, don't speak with him at all due to years of mistreatment he will never acknowledge or see as wrong. Absolutely the best decision I made was to move away and detach from the unhealthy situation. My brother stayed in the same small town and suffers severe depression and self-esteem problems due to issues related to my dad.

    We don't all have greeting-card perfect parents!

    My goal was to be better and different, as you say, break the cycle.I hope there is someone else you can look to for warmth and support.
  • stacey2930
    stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
    edited May 2007

    Thank you for your insight. I guess what I fear most is her death. How it will affect me. I adopted another mother, I am caucasian and she is black. The most sweetest, caring, praying, humble women I have ever met. Too bad God wont let us pick our parents in the beginning isnt it? Thanks again. Stacey

  • MargaretB
    MargaretB Member Posts: 1,305
    edited May 2007
    Stacey, I don't have a physically abusive mother or really even an overly emotionally abusive mother but rather one that is truly all about her, everything is about her and we don't get along as well as I would have liked to. It irritates the hell out of me but I've come to accept it for what it is. My father in law, on the other hand, is like your mother; he was raised in an orphanage and used to beat and torment his wife and his two sons. My husband tells me some stories of when he was a kid - he would cry when he got off the school bus and saw his dad's truck because then he knew dad was home. There are some stories so horrific that neither him nor his brother will tell me. People who have that sort of control over you only do so because you allow it. Both of his sons recognize that he is a sick man and set their boundaries, and his behavior is no longer tolerated by anyone in the family. We don't see him at holidays because we don't want to expose our families to his behavior. My husband sees him once, maybe twice, a year and that's enough. As far as your mother's death, you know that you did everything you could and you can't change her. Don't take on that guilt.

    I'm sure I'm older than you so I would be happy to adopt you as my daughter. They say you can choose your friends but not your family. If a friend had done the stuff to you that she has, you wouldn't be friends with them.

    Margaret
  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 2,166
    edited May 2007
    Stacey.
    I had a terrible dragging up by my mother.
    Both she and my father fought like cat and dog, drank, smoked, and regularly beat up myself, my sister and my brothers. Being the eldest of the brood I caught it more than the rest did.
    There wasn't ever much food in the house, no carpets on the floor, and no heat or bedding in winter.
    Regularly the bit of furniture we did have was smashed to pieces, and the windows put thru, and most w/ends we kids were drinking from jam jars.
    She ruined my childhood, my teenage years, my education, and my wedding day....in short, she was a bitch.
    As soon as I could I was out, and into night education to catch up, and I did it. Went to college, rather later than I should have, but I DID it !!!
    I didn't talk to my father for the last 20 years of his life, and haven't seen my mother now for nigh on 25 years. She is in a nursing home, and, so I am told, everyone thinks what a lovely little old lady she is. I could tell them quite a different story. Only 1 of her 5 children gives her an occasional visit, her grandchildren won't go near her, the rest of us just hate her for what she did to us.
    Do I regret not being in contact with her now she's a little old lady. NO I DON'T.
    I never thought it of any importance to let her know I had bc, she just never comes onto my radar anymore.
    Isabella.
    ps. being the eldest, it fell to me to settle all her nursing home bills, make sure the nursing home buy her things she needs, and not come knocking at my door when she needs clothing, just send me the bills to pay. The state give me money each month to do this, as she would not get a penny from my pocket. I resent having to be responsible for this, but one of us had to do it, and all the others volunteered me !!!!
  • stacey2930
    stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
    edited May 2007
    Margaret- thanks so much for your kind words and for "adopting" me.. a mother's day card is in the mail:.)I am thankful I didnt take my mothering skills from her. I was lucky in a way, my dad was totally dysfunctional, abusive to my mother but I adored him anyway. I was able to bond to him.
    Isabella: I understand what your saying. I dont tell many people because they dont understand what it is like, especially those that have somewhat normal relationships or loving parents.I am envious of "mother-daughter" relationships that I sometimes see. My husband is great he fills the void. I never had a birthday party as a child that I can remember or feeling like I was special to anyone. He makes sure I have big birthday celebrations with lots of balloons and all the trimmings. He makes me feel like a little girl again. No matter how hold I get I will always carry that little girl within. I also didnt have an education. I didnt graduate from high school. Left home at 18, married, and had 2 children. I am happy to say I now have my masters/nurse practitioner degree. Its not where you came from it's where your going that counts right?
  • Isabella4
    Isabella4 Member Posts: 2,166
    edited May 2007
    Hi again Stacey.
    I also never had a birthday party, nor even a card...just nothing. No card on my 18th, 21st, and no Christmas presents. In fact I was 11 freaking years old, delivering newspapers, when I saw a family wrapping up presents thru a window just before Christmas, wondered WHAT on earth they were doing !!
    Money was stolen from me, for booze and cigarettes.
    I had been saving up pots and pans etc. for my wedding, and my mother took a hammer to all the boxes, and smashed the lot, because I was not handing over all my wages each week ( I had too much to spend on 'rubbish', so she smashed it all)
    Clothes...what a laugh, we looked like walking rag bags.
    Today, my mother would have been locked up for both physical and emotional abuse, but back then ?? everyone just turned a blind eye.I was very regularly taken to the school nurses office with cuts and bruises, but no-one lifted a finger to help us out of all this. (apart from my grandmother, who DID try, but she got a beating from my father for her trouble, so she didn't often come to our house)
    I had a very hard time as I got older, adjusting to a normal family life with my DH and children, but I did it !! I never lose a moments sleep over my mother at all, I shall not go to her funeral, she is absolutely nothing to me....and I CAN live with it.
    Isabella.
  • stacey2930
    stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
    edited May 2007
    Hi Isabella, it's sad no one came to our rescue isnt it? My father's family knew how bad it was for me but did nothing. Many years later my cousins told me they remember their parents telling them "I feel so sorry for Stacey" I didnt need their pity I needed intervention. Its funny though my cousins with the "normal" childhood didnt make anything of themselves and I am now a nurse practioner, a speaker in my state about the effects of domestic violence in the home. I am proud of my accomplishments. I am also grateful for my family and home. I lived in a shack coming up. No central heat, I remember in the winter time it would get so cold in my house that the commode water would freeze and the free standing shower would have a sheet of Ice on the bottom, literally had to take a shower with your socks on! Its funny now but it wasnt funny then! I appreciate my little comforts at home:)
    Its mothers day and I still grieve for the mother I will never have.
  • JulieLA
    JulieLA Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2007
    My mother wasn't physically abusive but she also had BPD and I was the child she loved to hate. I didn't allow her to control or manipulate me and it made her very angry. I realized several years ago that the relationship was just toxic and I set limits (no unwitnessed contact). I felt liberated. I also felt orphaned, as my father divorced his children along with their mother. However, it was the healthiest thing I could do for ME. When my mother passed last year, I felt I had already done all my grieving. I didn't even cry because there was nothing to cry over.

    Her younger sister is more a mother to me and I can't bear watching my aunt get older. She's such a wonderful person - I can hardly even imagine she and my mother were raised in the same household. The hardest part of my mother's passing has been watching my sisters as they grieve and miss her.

    I have to say that I know full well what my mother would be saying right now about my BC if she was still alive. She'd be telling my sisters that I deserve this. And she wondered why we had no relationship.

    You've already done the best thing you can do - break the cycle. The next best thing is decide whether or not you can have any kind of relationship with your mother and if so, set the limits on how that will happen. Or just give up - some things just aren't meant to be. I sometimes still cry when someone tells me about their wonderful mother, but not as often as I used to.
  • junie
    junie Member Posts: 1,216
    edited May 2007

    Powerful and sad thread--I wrote a mini-novel, then deleted it! Big hugggsss and much love to all who grew up needing some hugs, and kisses, and I love you's. You all are extra special!!!!

  • MargaretB
    MargaretB Member Posts: 1,305
    edited July 2007
    Stacey, just sent you a note to see how you were doing and your mailbox is full.....not going to write it again but did want to say hi.

    Margaret
  • Methusala
    Methusala Member Posts: 285
    edited July 2007
    I was for a very long time.
    For the past several years, I've tried my best to forgive and move on. I blew up at her right before Easter... I couldn't talk to her for a couple months. I've used the motto:
    "The sooner you accept your Mother for who she is, and not who you want her to be, the happier you'll be".

    I made that motto up for my oldest son, and his father who wants nothing to do with him, even after 20 years. My son had a step-father, my husband now, but it's not the same. All my son wanted for 20 years was some form of acknowledgment. So i would tell my son over and over, the sooner you accept your father for who he is, and not who you want him to be, the happier You will be."

    anyway, we didn't have heat most of the time either. Our phone was on and off.. *sigh* if we grew up in this day and age, we would have been in foster homes, all 3 of us kids.
    It's still too painful to talk about. My mother has changed, but SHE thinks she was a wonderful mother. (GAG!)
    she tells everyone that I am a great mother, and learned it all from here (UNREAL, eh??). BUT... she is a very good grandmother.. and for my children's sake, i will do what I can to keep the peace... she's a better grandma than she EVER was a mother. I can give her that much.
  • stacey2930
    stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2007
    Margaret,
    Thanks for letting me know my mailbox was full I just thought it would go one forever! I didnt have any notification that I couldnt receive mail, I deleted all old messages ( I had 400). I am doing good thank you so much for thinking about me.
    GMG, I understand what you mean. My mom would tell people that I had the "perfect" childhood and believed she was a wonderful mother. I could forgive her for my childhood but not for what she did to me as an adult. I wish I had a mother. Its so painful and the pain never goes away. So ladies if you have a loving, caring, affectionate mother who is devoted, loyal, and would go to the ends of the earth for you please know you are so blessed. Hugs, Stacey
  • stacey2930
    stacey2930 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2007
  • Sierra
    Sierra Member Posts: 1,638
    edited July 2007
    Hi Stacy:

    Sorry to hear this and it is
    good to share with others, it
    will help

    Junie: I too had a post here, then edited
    and lost it


    GMG: A good move to tell your son that
    NO, it is not the same. I too had a step father
    but, wanted the real Father. It is not like this in all
    cases, I guess. Good luck! Further, not always easy to
    be a step parent, goodness, seems being a parent sometimes
    is hard enough

    Will just say, very difficult
    families. My family was divorced
    and my childhood very rocky, in and
    out of the two family units. My Father
    never ever changed. He died of lung
    cancer. I started to travel at a fairly
    young age, living abroad.

    I still have my Mom, bless her heart
    but it has been a difficult relationship at times.
    She is not well now, and I feel dementia has set in
    to a degree. Step parents work sometimes, and
    other times, they do not. Guess we have to
    accept the things we cannot change.


    Best to all

    E Mail private
    anyone on this topic


    Isabella : That is very sad, indeed



    O/T PS.. Strange, my two grandmothers
    I had a wonderful relationship with
    them. Anyone else?

  • Emelee26
    Emelee26 Member Posts: 569
    edited July 2007
    Hi Stacey,
    I work with BPD people and they are the most difficult population...I know what you dealt with and I'm sorry...I'm glad you came through it and found another "mother"
    Love Marisa
  • MargaretB
    MargaretB Member Posts: 1,305
    edited July 2007
    Stacey, just saw this thread so it's been awhile. I know two people with bi-polar, a mother and her son. It's very difficult for them to have friendships and relationships.

    GMG, I like what you told your son.

    Sierra, I'm a stepparent - have been since my stepdaughters were 2 and 5 and they are now 27 and 30. I love them like they were my own and vice versa, but I have to tell you that sometimes it can be the most thankless job anyone can have. Fortunately, I don't feel like that often.

    Margaret
  • Hoghedge
    Hoghedge Member Posts: 46
    edited August 2007
    Stacey,
    So sorry about your past. I would not presume to give advice but I do hope you will keep on trying.
    I still feel heartbrokenly guilty that I was not more tolerant and loving towards my own mother - she died in 1990 and I was with her but ...
    I am very close to my daughter but ache with guilt for having "put her through" my cancer to such a point she had a nervous breakdown.
    Hope you are doing ok , cancer-wise.

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