Trying to understand MRI Results

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Pbeor
Pbeor Member Posts: 8
edited September 2018 in Not Diagnosed But Worried

I'm 39, married with three boys. About 6 months ago I found a lump in my left breast. I'm still waiting for my MRI Guided Biopsy, which is in 2 weeks. I did obtain my last MRI results from My Breast Surgeon. I have tried to research what it all means and I am trying to understand why the Radiologist was telling me that it MIGHT be precancer or Stage 0 or could be a Fibroadenoma. I know that they won't know for sure until they do this biopsy, but the waiting is horrible! I have already had 1 biopsy that came back "Nondiagnostic", 2 US which did not show the lesion and a Diagnostic Mammogram that didn't show the lesion either. It was palpable & showed up on the 1st MRI. The results read: High resolution images show symmetric bilateral parenchymal enhancement. In the mid left breast approximately 3cm posterior to the areola, there is 6 x 4 x 3mm enhancing focus. There is a rapid enhancement of the focus. Bilateral axillary lymph nodes are morpholgically normal. Due to suspicious kinetics, MRI guided biopsy should be considered. Bi-RADS Category 0. I understand the Radiologist was trying to prepare me for the worse case scenario, which I appreciate the honesty, but I was hoping maybe someone here understood these test results and could help me relax a little about the outcome of the next MRI or if I'm just grasping at straws to see if there is any hidden clue in the last MRI results as to which way it's leaning. I appreciate any input anyone might have. Thanks!

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  • Bugs
    Bugs Member Posts: 1,719
    edited April 2007
    The only thing that pops out at me is the Bi-RADs being a 0. The higher the number, the more suspicious for malignancy. I'm not saying leave it at that and don't get the biopsy...I'm just saying take a deep breath and go have a great weekend and TRY not to worry too much while you wait for the test.

    Take care,
    Bugs
  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited April 2007
    I am so sorry you are going through this. Waiting is horrible.

    People use these imaging techniques to find out what looks like cancer. If you know what kind of clothes and hair that your friend Mary has, then if you see her only from her back, you have a pretty good idea that it is Mary, but you won't really know until she turns around.

    There probably isn't a person here who is a radiologist trained in breast MRI.
    But normally the words they use are ONLY describing in technical language what they actually, factually see on the MRI, not something they are guessing.

    So, for example, on sonograms they may use the words 'hypoechoic lesion', which just means that the sono (which uses sound waves) found a place (lesion) where the waves don't bounce back and echo as much (hypoechoic). They are NOT committing themselves to whether or not it is breast cancer - because they cannot.

    So I'm guessing 'enhancing focus' is the same kind of gobblygook.

    BIRADS is a way of classifying mammos, and 0 is the most benign you can get; BIRADS 5 is characteristic of cancer.

    MRIs are notoriously sensitive, but notoriously also give a lot of false positives - things that are NOT cancer show up there too. People with inflammation can have their MRIs show up like Christmas lights. So a lot of NONCANCEROUS 'junk' can show up on MRIs.

    "MRI is useful in:
    evaluating a woman who has a palpable mass that isn't visible with ultrasound or mammography

    assessing a lesion in the densely glandular breast of a young woman <snip>

    Even at its best, MRI produces many uncertain findings. Some radiologists call these "unidentified bright objects," or UBOs." http://www.breastcancer.org/testing_mri.html#mri

    Its very hard not to worry. I worried myself sick before all of my biopsies. We want to be prepared for what is coming to us down the road, no matter how small the chance.


    But even for regular, mammo-guided, or sono-guided biopsies, about 80% of these biopsies are benign. I would expect that MRIs would probably generate even a higher percentage of benign biopsies.

    Feel free to post here and vent. That's what we are here for.
    Thinking of you and wishing you breast health,
    Leaf
  • maryannecb
    maryannecb Member Posts: 1,453
    edited April 2007
    Pbeor, my lump did not "show" on mammo or US.I was birads 0. I ahd am MRI the same day as my lump was 6cm. MRI also felt to be benign but two weeks later it had grown another 2cm, so had a biopsy. I am glad you are having your biopsy now, bet it will be OK, but don't skip it.

    Fists up!
    Fists
  • mbordo
    mbordo Member Posts: 253
    edited April 2007
    I think BiRADS 0 means inconclusive/not enough data. Even so - not much can be known until you get the biopsy done - the truth is in the pathology - anything else is pure speculation. Waiting is the pits - but statistically, 80% of lumps turn out to be benign, so odds are in your favor. It may not seem like it from the responses here (since this is a breast cancer site!) - and most here came out in the unfortunate other 20%! Waiting sucks, but don't worry until you know you have to! Good luck!

    Mary
  • Weimarmom
    Weimarmom Member Posts: 55
    edited April 2007

    Birads 0 Means further evaluation needed.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited April 2007
    You're right, Weimarmom and mbordo. I was wrong. Thank you.. I learned something new.

    What is BI-RADS? BI-RADS is a system that was developed by radiologists for reporting mammogram results using a common language. The radiologist assigns a single digit BI-RADS score (ranging from 0 to 5) when the report of your mammogram is created.

    What does BI-RADS 0 mean? BI-RADS 0 identifies a mammogram study that is not yet complete. You need to make sure that further evaluation is completed, perhaps extra mammography views or an ultrasound. Further information is needed to make a final assessment (codes 1 to 5).

    What does BI-RADS 1 mean? BI-RADS 1 means that the mammogram was negative (ie, no cancer) and that you should continue your routine screening.

    What does BI-RADS 2 mean? BI-RADS 2 also means that your mammogram was normal (ie, no cancer), but other findings (eg, cysts) are described in the report. You should continue your routine screening.

    What does BI-RADS 3 mean? BI-RADS 3 means that your mammogram is probably normal but a repeat mammogram should be completed in 6 months. The chance of breast cancer is approximately 2% in this category. You should make sure that these follow-up mammograms are completed as requested.

    What does BI-RADS 4 mean? BI-RADS 4 means that the findings on your mammogram are suspicious and that there is approximately a 23% to 34% chance that this is breast cancer. You will need a biopsy to get a small tissue sample to make a diagnosis. Talk to your doctors about any questions.

    What is a biopsy? Biopsy is done to obtain a piece of the breast tissue to determine whether there is cancer. The biopsy may be done using a needle technique (a "needle biopsy") or may require a surgical operation (a "surgical biopsy"). When a needle biopsy is an option, it is usually preferred.

    What does BI-RADS 5 mean? BI-RADS 5 means that your mammogram results are highly suspicious with a 95% chance of breast cancer. You will need to have a biopsy for diagnosis. Talk to your doctors about what course of action to take.

    What does BI-RADS 6 mean? BI-RADS 6 means that you have already been diagnosed with breast cancer. Discuss your treatment plan with your doctors.

    Why do I need to know my BI-RADS score? Knowing your BI-RADS number can help to make sure that you get proper follow-up after your mammogram. It is a good thing for you to know that score so you can keep track, along with your physician, of what you need to do and actively participate in your medical care.
    http://doctor.medscape.com/viewarticle/524584_5

    But I don't know what they call it if your mammo risk for bc is between 34-95%
  • vollymom1
    vollymom1 Member Posts: 4
    edited September 2018

    Hello, I am so glad I found this site, this whole process has been agonizing to say the least. I originally went in for a regular mammogram screening and was called back with a BIRAD 0- needs further evaluation. At the follow up there was persistent architectural distortion after performing a TOMO, spot compression and magnification views, so I needed an Ultrasound. When sonographer went it to view it with the Radiologist, he ended up coming in the room to watch her perform it because there was an area (I have heterogeneous dense breasts) they could not identify and he recommended an MRI and not wait 3 months for follow up. I had my MRI last Thursday and got the results yesterday. There is a spiculated 4cm mass enhancement with extensive intraductal enhancement measuring up to 4.4 cm in the upper outer quadrant of right breast and a lot of other terminology used that I don't understand however it was given a BIRAD 5, highly suggestive of malignancy and appropriate action should be taken. I go for my biopsy this Thursday. Anyone else have anything like this and if so, what was the outcome? I am at a point where I just need to know what I am looking at :) Thank you!

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