Starting Chemo in JAN 2007

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  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Lynn and Shorti, please revote. A page break developed right after I posted the survey so I deleted it and moved it forward.

    Shorti...your SUV looks sharp. Technically, we are not allowed to park trailers in our sub due to condo rules, but there are at least two great campgrounds nearby at Pinckney Rec and Brighton. I also have a 3 bed camper I could lend someone.

    Please vote for a place, even if you're not sure...we need at least a straw poll.

    Mizsissy
  • nandy42918
    nandy42918 Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2007
    Hello Everyone--Well my last AC treatment was on April 2. It was tough getting over and it took longer than the the other 3 to get some energy back, but I feel I am almost back to normal(minus hair).
    I noticed several have problems with hot flashes. I am post menopausal and started having these about 10 years ago. The worst would always happen about 3:AM and by the time I got cooled down I was wide awake. I started sleeping with a small fan on my side of the bed and when I started getting hot, I would just throw the covers off, feel the cool air and go right back to sleep. I still have these from time to time and its been over 10 years.
    It seems so strange to be finished with my tx and I just want to thank everyone on this site for taking the time to share their fears and their lives with us all. It does make it so much easier to face the unknown with you all sharing it together. ----Nandy
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited April 2007
    Quote:

    Anyway - just felt like whining a little bit more about it.

    WHINE ON, JAN! IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR STRESS!

    I'M DOING BETTER TODAY. EYE WENT MOSTLY BACK TO NORMAL, SO I'M GLAD ABOUT THAT. MY HUSBAND TOLD ME IF I STARTED DROOLING, I WAS DONE. HA-HA! SPENT THE AM AT KINDERGARDEN "ENRICHMENT" DAY. THE KIDS MADE TERRARIUMS AND LOOOOOOVED IT.

    CANNOT GET OVER THAT PICTURE OF THE ELKS. I'D CRACK MY CAR UP IF I DROVE UP AND SAW THAT! AMAZING!!!
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited April 2007
    Hello all.

    All my blood work came back good this morning, so I'm good to go for #6 & FINAL on Monday.

    After chemo I took Thor (my dog) for a walk in Fish Creek Park. It is just beautiful here today, but I saw the most beautiful thing today.

    A Mama deer and her little baby fawn...thank goodness Thor never saw her. It was like she was looking at me, and saying don't tell that big mutt I'm here. I wished I had brought my camera...that baby fawn can't be more than a couple of days old.

    Going to watch the Player's Championship curling at the Corral tonite. All the top curlers from across Canada will be in it, both men and women.

    I posted my response to the questionaire. I will fly into Toronto and then maybe Shorti you and I could tie up to meet to go to either Stratford or Michigan. Otherwise, I will just rent a car.

    Lynn, hope you are feeling well. Nandy, very nice to hear from you again, and I'm glad you are feeling better.

    Jan, you have great self control, somedays I feel I could bit my own head off!!

    Oh...another positive I got my Income Tax Refund today!! As luck would have it, I'm going shopping tomorrow.

    Have a great weekend everyone. Thanks for posting the Elk Pic for me Mizsissy. They have about 4 overpasses for the animals between Banff & Lake Louise (I used to be on the ski hostess/patrol at Lake Louise). If anyone is coming out this way this summer, I'd be happy to be your tour guide of Alberta and The Rockies.

    Hugs to all!

    Joni
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited April 2007
    Hi all,

    Jan- Whine away honey - I wish they would make laws about talking on the cell while driving - I think some places have them - My daughter was broadsided last year by some 24 year old who was - you guessed it - talking on her cell phone... We are all just happy you are okay.
    Tina - glad your eye is better... probably just another little chemo s/e - like we don't have enough.
    Joni - love that elk walkway - only in Canada would you see this -
    Mizsissy - I am really pretty flexible - I sent my vote in but will try to come whenever
    I think I'm going to lie down for a quick nap - I'll check in later
    Caya
  • sharon56
    sharon56 Member Posts: 220
    edited April 2007
    I love to camp and after looking at the place in Stratford well the camper can stay in the driveway I can pick you up joni at the airport and either drive to Stratford or Michigan . no problems here
    Shopping sounds like fun we are redoing our powder room this weekend ..... i have a big honeydo list for hubby and me to complete while i am off work . its friggin cold here too ........
    by the looks ofevery ones posts we are managing through this chemo ride .... oh for the nice warm sun ......
    Have a good weeknd everyone and for those of you in the nice sunny south I am jealous
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Stratford Trippers:

    Since I only know of seven women total who plan definitely on coming (Lynn, Joni, Shorti, Caya, Mary, Jan, myself) and five have voted it looks as though September in Stratford is going to be the winner.

    Here's the thing: The Old Rectory is a VERY popular B&B; it's the nicest inn I've known anywhere and most people who go there come back year after year. I just talked to Kim, the proprietress, and she would love to have us. There are 6 rooms in the house, and the ONLY date in September when we can have the WHOLE HOUSE would be Sept. 30 (a Sunday) and Oct. 1. There are three rooms available Sept. 28 & 29th. Oklahoma is playing on Sat (the 29th). There is a matinee on Sunday.

    We could plan on spending the evening together on Sunday and then have another day and evening to spend together as we wished (eating out, shopping, talking, theatre going). The weather will probably be nice and there are lovely gathering places all over the inn; my favorite is the upstairs porch in back.

    Those of you who want to see plays, for example Oklahoma, you could book either earlier in the week at the Rectory (3 rooms available) or elsewhere, or book Tues/Wed at the rectory (? rooms available) or elsewhere.

    They would make it very nice for us, and they might even cook us a special dinner on Sunday evening IF we were interested.

    If this is what we really want to do, this is the time and we'd have to book right away to get the Rectory (although other accommodations might be available later EVERYTHING in Stratford gets booked months ahead).

    I could book now; we already have passports. Inn reservations can be cancelled, but theatre tickets are not so easy to change. I think it would make sense for everybody to reserve now so we can at least get in, and if need be we can cancel later. If other women want to join later, they can find other accomodation, but we will at least have the inn to ourselves.

    What do you think?

    Mizsissy
  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited April 2007

    What is the difference between the two ER+ percentages. I do not know what my percentages are but want to ask,

  • mer1957
    mer1957 Member Posts: 534
    edited April 2007

    I can probably only stay for one night because of work and prefer a weekend but I will try to make what you all decide.

  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Mary,

    One possibility is that we could take three rooms at the Old Rectory for Fri & Sat...but it would mean we couldn't all be together.

    I could provide links to LOTS of other places....in Stratford and we could gather at the inn (if they didn't mind extra people).

    If it is really important to have a weekend and all be in one place, my house is always a possibility.

    Or, we could just work with the Sunday/Monday night deal at the Rectory and have the WHOLE INN to OURSELVES.. that's my preference, but I understand that this might also be difficult for Lynn.

    Mizsissy
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2007
    Skye, God love ya, when you mentioned taxol cement legs, I yelled wippee! Someone else out there described it that way too. Matter of fact I told my boss and MIL it feels like someone cut off my legs filled them full of cement and reattached them. I scared taking pain meds with all the other drugs and motrine, tylenol might as well be sugar cubes. I plan on walking in the Relay in May and I'll have a treatment day before. That should be interesting
    I can sooooooo relate to you
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited April 2007
    Hey Nancy, that is about the only way to describe the leg thing, isn't it? It just helps so much to know I'm not the only one feeling this way. I do get some relief from the tylenol, at least it doesn't hurt lying down then, but I haven't been able to get dressed yesterday or today. You may be ok walking the day after your treatment; the se's don't seem to set in til later on day 3 for me.

    Joni that is a fabulous picture, hard to believe but there it is!

    The get together plans also sound fabulous but I know I won't be up to driving that far alone so I doubt I'll manage. Still, it is possible a book thing could come up and I could always make last minute arrangements nearby, so I will leave it in the realm of possibilities. Nothing would please me more than seeing you all face to face.

    Jan, I really do also hand it to you for remaining so calm. I don't usually get mad but would have had a hard time not notifying police. I was broadsided last August by a 20-something roaring over a blind hill just as I was into the turn, totaled my 4-month old Toyota. She was SO speeding but didn't get a ticket. I was blessed to come out without a scratch. Only to find out a few months later I had bc. But I know what you mean, that it is hard to take anything else on top of the bc. Good thing we have this place to vent when it does! - Skye
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited April 2007
    You're nicer than I, I would have called the police. I have no patience with drivers and cell phones. That's rather harsh since I often need to use my cell phone for work when I'm driving. I get in trouble for letting it roll over to message but it makes me nervous, I know it's hard to manage the phone and the traffic.

    Glad you're okay.

    Cindy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Skye--you wouldn't have to drive further than Ann Arbor, we'd take you the rest of the way.

    Jan...could you come to Stratford end of sept?

    Mizsissy
  • IowaCindy
    IowaCindy Member Posts: 341
    edited April 2007
    Had my last chemo of 8, #4 of the Taxotere. I didn't know until today that the doctor was out of the office but had a nice chat with the nurse practitioner. She warned me that this last treatment may be the most difficult to recover from - those accumulative effects. She's going to print off the results of that computer program showing me the statistics for my cancer information and the different treatments - surgery, chemo and hormone therapy. I can pick it up on Sunday when I go in for my Neulasta shot.

    I'm more tired tonight than I've been the first evening of the other treatments. I rather dread taking the steroids tonight but know I need them. I think I'll be tired enough to sleep anyway.

    I had lunch after treatment with family and friends. I received an early birthday present/congratulations present - a digital camera! I've been stewing about getting one but really love my old 35mm Pentax. I have a few months to learn to use the camera before my trip to Colorado in August. I'll need the time - I'm technologically impaired.

    My eldest daughter drove me around town to take care of some errands and although it's only 7:30, I'm pretty sure that's it's pajama time.

    I'm rather stunned to have reach this point in the battle. I guess I can't say it's over until I get through the next week or two.

    But hey, I showed up. That's what I needed to do. Show up. Even through the dread and fatigue, with the love of my family and friends, this part is ending.

    And it's Spring. Such a good time of year to be moving on!

    Cindy
  • Amera
    Amera Member Posts: 452
    edited April 2007
    Yipee Cindy! Hurrah for you. I hope the recovery isn't too bad. My last treatment did take a while, but it was easier knowing it would be the last time I'd feel like that.

    I keep meaning to tell you... I was having the biggest chemo craving for Vic's cheese popcorn and ordered myself 2 pounds. Have you had it? It's made in Omaha and I ate it all the time growing up. I hadn't even thought about it in 20 years but I *had* to have some about a week post chemo. It is bright orange and probably toxic, but so good.

    Had my rads simulation today. It took about 20 minutes to set me up and take photos. I also had blood work done. The nurse said that my counts were likely up enough to be considered safe for rads but that they would continue to rise for another couple of weeks. That's why we are all so tired, I think. Even though they are in the "acceptable for chemo/rads" range, they are not nearly as high as we were used to pre-treatment. That was reassuring.

    Have a good weekend everyone. We are going to a Red Sox game tomorrow. DH's company is giving us tickets behind home plate. I am not a baseball fan but figured I should see at least one Red Sox game in my life. Oh, and we are getting a new puppy too--a Boxador. I finally gave in. I guess now that I have some energy back, I will have to spend it going to puppy school with the new pooch.
  • Caya
    Caya Member Posts: 971
    edited April 2007
    Mizsissy,
    The weekend of Sept. 30th is the big Breast Cancer Run for the Cure here in Toronto. My eldest daughter is keen on doing it with me, so I won't be able to commit to that weekend. Depending on when you all will be there, if you go to Stratford and do choose those dates, I could possibly come in for the day either Friday, Saturday, or Monday. If I don't end up doing the walk, I could come in on Sunday for the day - Stratford is about a 2 1/2 hour drive from my house.
    So as I have said before, you gals plan on doing whatever is good for you, and I will try my best to fit in somehow.
    Caya
  • TPPJ
    TPPJ Member Posts: 1,017
    edited April 2007
    Congrats Cindy! Good for you! I hear you on being "stunned". It was the weirdest feelign for me....the night before, the day of, the day after... I think now, a week later I feel kind of "crashed"...like I now realize I had been running on pure adrenaline for 6 months now, just pushing through tx to tx, just to reach "done". Then you're kind of like "now what...". I think it's going to take a couple of weeks to normalize. I'm still beat by 6 pm... I feel like I've morphed into a senior citizen. I don't want to go out at night at all. Not that I have in years: once you have kids you're kind of "grounded" at night anyway.

    Amera, cheer for the Sox from me. I hope you have OK weather. It was sunny/cool here today and usually what happens in OH today is what Boston gets the next day. We are in for more gloom and doom tomorrow: soccer is already cancelled. Not too upset about that. Too cold for sitting around wet fields. I haven't heard of Vic's... I like Smartfood, which I don't see anyplace around here except for the chemo room. My vices from Boston that I really miss are greasy, Wise Chips and Papa Ginos and/or Pizzeria Regina pizza. I barely eat pizza out because it's awful. Tastes like frozen. Less carbs though...
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited April 2007
    Hi All,
    I haven't posted in a while. I finished a/c and was supposed to start the first of 12 taxols this week, but my white blood count was too low, so the doctor postponed til wed the 18th. I felt so awful, just exhausted and depressed, that I was mostly relieved. I do feel much better than I did last weekend. I think it's good I had another week to recuperate. I do hope that Monday's blood test indicates that I am good to go, since I really need to get this behind me. 12 seems like soooo many. But I need to walk thru that door and get done with it all.

    I am planning a four day weekend in the local mountains in mid July to celebrate the end of treatments. I do feel confident that I will beat this cancer, but sometimes the battle seems pretty daunting. Today an ex coworker stopped by the office; she and I are good friends, and she is one of the few in the business who knows about my battle. She told me that I looked great, and I got very teary. I wear a wig, have almost no eyebrows or lashes, but work hard at the makeup, and maybe I am pulling it off. Anyway, it meant a lot to me to hear her say that.

    I wish I could meet all of you, but living in Calif it isn't going to happen. I have organized a group off this board of ladies in my area though, and we are getting together for the second time this weekend. The last get together was wonderful, and I am really looking forward to this one.

    Congrats, Cindy, on finishing chemo. And to the other ladies who have finished too. I am proud of all of you.

    Melia
  • jonimb
    jonimb Member Posts: 900
    edited April 2007
    Oh, I feel so bad, but I cannot make it that last weekend in September. Our flights to Rome are on September 29, which gets us there on Sept 30. That only gives us 3 days to explore Rome, as we get on the cruise ship on Oct 4.

    I'm so sorry, if the weekend gets changed, I will try to make it, but that weekend is impossible for me with our planned cruise.

    Cindy, congratulations on completing chemo.

    Hugs to all....Joni
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2007

    Meliaanne- I know how you are feeling about starting the taxol and doing x's 12. I just finished #5 today and it really seems to be flying by, Maybe because it is weekly and by the time you recup, go to work, run errands, and all the daily stuff, it's time again. So remember we are with you even though it seems long. I have only had 1 tx postponed due to low counts and that was when I was on the AC. So far taxol has not been to bad although my hemoglobin was lower today and I can't get a shot till next week. My red count is struggling despite the shots though. But counts still good enough to get tx. and I get bummed when I get put off a week because I want it done with. I love my chemo nurses I just don't want to see them so often, LOL. Good Luck on the 18th

  • tlc60
    tlc60 Member Posts: 83
    edited April 2007
    Cindy - big smiles for you finishing chemo!! I follw you in two weeks 8-)
    The trip to Stratford does sound great, but being in CA it's hard for me to get there too, though I would love to meet everyone. I hope you post lots of pix!!

    tlc
  • meliaanne
    meliaanne Member Posts: 682
    edited April 2007
    Nancy,
    Thanks so much for your kind words. I am not as strong as I would like to be, and any encouragement is so helpful. I am working fulltime, my husband is too scared (I think) to be very helpful, and I haven't told many other people, so I don't have as much support as I would like.
    Melia
  • skyedivine
    skyedivine Member Posts: 839
    edited April 2007
    Hey Nancy and Melia, don't listen to me whining about my Taxol symptoms too much. I think that your 12 lighter, weekly doses are probably much easier on your systems than my four big doses. Also, I didn't really know what to look for in the way of Herceptin symptoms but I looked it up last night and discovered that during the first week of treatment it often causes flu-like symptoms, extra aches and pains and such, which is exactly what I feel like I have. On top of cement legs and deep boned fatigue. The sniffles thing I've decided is seasonal allergy and is better. Melia you just hang in there...if you are working fulltime then you are incredibly strong already and have my admiration.
    Cindy, hooray for you! Do let us know when you start feeling "normal!" I'm counting down my days and trying to decide whether a cake or a big fruit platter would be nicer for the staff.
    Mizsissy that would be most helpful to get a ride from Ann Arbor, but it's still a good seven hours to AA from here so I'll have to think about it. At the moment, it seems impossible that I will ever have my normal energy and strength back. The dh and I are thinking of booking just a 5-day Carnival cruise around the Gulf of Mexico in August for our anniversary. I want to snorkel, and otherwise just lie around and be catered to. We never used to think we could stand a cruise vacation -- being cooped up on a boat -- but after all that has happened to us this year it sounds pretty good. - Skye
  • Dar1
    Dar1 Member Posts: 146
    edited April 2007
    Good morning all.
    Mizsissy, the trip sounds fantastic! But, we are going to New Brunswick in Sept. and can't manage both. We are going to see our ex-neighbors there - she also has bc. For those of you taking taxol or herceptin, she had 6 rounds of FEC last year, had a recurrance and is now taking taxol/herceptin. She says it's a piece of cake compared to last year and does sound good every time I talk to her.
    Cindy, congratulations on finishing! I know what you're saying about showing up - sometimes it seems like an act of extreme bravery just to walk through the Cancer Centre doors.
    Joni - love the picture! We have driven by there a hundred times and I've never seen animals on that crossing - now I know they really do use it! Glad you are good to go on Monday - the last one! Yeah!!!
    I went to a friends daughter's high school play last night - wow, out until after 10:00 PM! I was so tired when we got home. I do OK during the day, but the evening hours are not back to normal for me.
    Sounds like everyone is looking forward to the summer - trips etc. - LIFE! That's why we did this, right? I plan on enjoying every minute.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Thanks for your replies about Stratford...I think we will have to rule out Stratford at the Old Rectory even tho it seemed to be the winner, since that last weekend in September is the ONLY time we could it. Which is a little of a relief because I hate being under that kind of pressure to book so far in advance, but when you find a really nice place and the secret gets out, that's what happens!!

    Because Stratford is in the midst of theatre season through all the warm months *everything* will book way in advance so it will be difficult to find another place there, unless yall want to make it a winter get-together. So we need to think about other possibilities: Toronto, N. Mich., my house.

    If we met in Toronto, does anybody have any ideas about where we could stay together? A big city like this would be difficult for campers.

    We need to go back to the drawing boards on this one. Too bad we can't get you California girls in on this...I'd love to meet you Melianne, TLC, Robbin Jaye!!! Let's keep brainstorming. Know anybody who's got a private plane?!!!

    Mizsissy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    I had my third real zap on Friday, and I felt funny afterwards. My heart felt a little fluttery like it used to before my cardiac ablation. Also I felt suddenly sleepy. I still feel tired.

    I wonder if I am supposed to feel this way. Each Monday I see the Rad Onc, AFTER treatment to discuss things. If I feel this strange after the 3rd one, how am I going to deal with 33?

    Mizsissy
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    To IowaCindy, Nandy on finishing.

    Thank you Nandy for the idea about having a fan next to the bed for hot flashes. We'll try this!!!
  • Nancyab
    Nancyab Member Posts: 276
    edited April 2007
    Ah Skye, Your not whining your being honest. This is a tough mountain to climb. Geez I've slid back so many times. To tell the truth, I have been fighting panic attacks and depression since I was 25. I have been on every anti-depressant they make. And ativan is just a staple in my house. My family thought with my "history" this TX would put me in a rubber room. And Yes I have had many a melt down in the last 6 months. But then I looked in the mirror on day and thought ok I was handed this, My body is different, I look different so I should be different. And once I faced that I got stronger. Sure I'm not happy about the changes, but I have to accept them or curl up in a ball. I want my daughters to think I was brave so If they are unfortunate to also get BC, I hope that I showed them that even the weakest and beat this stuff.
    Melia we were handed a very heavy load to bear, sometimes I think it helps to be open about it. I'm usually very private about these things too, but I have a MIL that well you know talks on the phone alot. And once everyone knew I got so much support It was like I was lifted up. The help came and eased the burden on my husband, and he was able to get back in to his job that was being negleted, (much to his bosses chagrin I bet) It was hard for me to accept help from others, but my poor hub couldn't carry us alone. I went to Road to recovery and I can cope classes from the ACS and they were helpful too. I really would suggest even calling the ACS and just talking with them about how you feel. Through them I met 2 survivors that when I touch them and spoke with them. It took the fear that I was not going to beat this away. I told them that and It made their day. The american cancer soc is so helpful. That is an alternative if you still wish to keep it private among friends and family. I understand your feelings. and remember all of us are sisters.
  • NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING
    NOLONGERREADINGORPOSTING Member Posts: 778
    edited April 2007
    Mer...different labs have different ways of rating the positives. It is the percentage of cells that respond to the hormone, for example, my lab divided things up so that anything between 30 and 75% of cells responding was "high", and under that was low. Over 75% was very, very high.

    I got high on my ER, but low, even equivocal on the PR. The more strongly positive you are, the better the likelihood that you will respond to anti-hormonal therapy.

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