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  • SummerAngel
    SummerAngel Member Posts: 1,006
    edited March 2022

    "summergal, yes, it was tested on BCO members." My screen name is SummerAngel, not "summergal". This is pretty funny, and an example of the issue with lack of correct capitalization when the member names were ported. Okay, so it was tested on members. How many? I'd really like to know, considering how many complaints we've seen since the new site went live.

    "We are pleased to see so many new people are able to join, and are getting support." This seems like an improper thing to post on a tech issues thread, and I seriously doubt we have "many" new people, as the number of posts per day has clearly declined since the launch.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited March 2022

    I just spend 5 minutes getting in, 10 minutes writing a post, 2 minutes waiting after I clicked 'Submit" only to get a "Site Down' notice...I am now off to bang my head against a wall.

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    Hey All, We're human too. Apologies, summerangel. Ruth, yes, we hear that, and they are working on it! We're following the analytics and metrics. People are joining, and traffic fortunately remains high, despite the technical issues. The more glitches that get reported, and the more we get fixed, the better the functionality, and the better for everyone. We understand the challenges. Just trying to address your points, and be as helpful as we can.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2022

    You are down to 2 pages of Active Topics! Reloading the same pages is not productive traffic!

    We have been reporting the very same issues for almost 3 weeks!

    I understand we are all human, but this is ridiculous!

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2022

    "People are joining, and traffic fortunately remains high, despite the technical issues."

    We are able to see the traffic on the forums. This statement is just weird.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2022

    This glitches thread is the most active recently. It took less than 10 years to get to 100 pages, but the last 14 pages took 3 weeks. How’s that for traffic?

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    We are working on the functionality and we are hearing you, EACH of you. We're doing our best.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited March 2022

    Can someone explain what NEGATIVE unread posts are? Rhetorical question since there is no explanation for anything.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2022

    I fear the tech team is working on this functionality live and causing further problems. The “lastest post" is not updating properly like it was less than an hour ago.

    🙃

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  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    alicebastable, yes, it's been reported and they are working on that along with the other reported glitches. Thank you!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2022

    Mods, When I’m troubleshooting an issue, I often can’t correct the issue in one fell swoop. This is why dev environments are used. If I don’t have a separate dev environment, then I create one that’s not visible to users. Perhaps you can introduce your tech team to the concept of hidden threads. They can create one just for themselves. This requires a delicate touch so that testing doesn’t affect the users.


  • zogo
    zogo Member Posts: 20,329
    edited March 2022

    Well I posted about the Latest Post issue and I see it was already reported. Now, trying to delete my comment, I cannot find an easy way to delete. There is no delete button. And I tried to highlight the text and hit delete and it would not let me do that. The only way to get rid of it was to go to the end and delete every letter by hitting the delete button 100 x or more.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    Thanks Serenity, will pass that along.

    Zogo, we've noted this glitch and passed it along.

    Please remember, any glitches you'd like to report should be submitted on this page, so that we can be sure to track and address all necessary reports. Thank you!

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited March 2022

    ERROR REPORTING

    To help techs working on issues, best we add the following to our posts:

    Operating system

    Browser

    Device

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2022

    By using the Search function, it is easy to see the amount of activity on the discussion board.

    Past 1 day 134 posts

    Past 1 week 1003 posts, average 143 per day

    Past 2 weeks 2074 posts, average 148 per day

    Past 1 month 4772 posts, average 159 per day

    - By subtracting the past two weeks from the past month, we can calculate that the number of posts during the first two weeks of the past month (i.e. covering mostly the period before the redesign with just a few days after the redesign), there were 2698 posts, for an average 193 per day.

    Past 3 months 19312 posts, average 212 per day

    Past 6 months 41879 posts, average 229 per day


    The activity level seems to be moving in the wrong direction. Earlier today I got 6 or 7 "site down" messages in a row; signing in now, I just got another. I wonder if each of those attempts to enter the site or view a thread counts as a separate "visit" to the site.



  • ThreeTree
    ThreeTree Member Posts: 709
    edited March 2022

    Just tried to log in (not sure how I got logged out) and was sent to home page. Now, when I go to this page, I see that I am logged in again (hello?).

    I just looked at the Work.co website and they are indeed trying to turn this site into a clone of their own site. Same small dark type, big white spaces, white background, etc. I did not find their site warm or inviting at all, and if this is what the final product is going to look like (assuming the glitches all finally get fixed some day), I find it very unappealing and have no idea why someone would think that this design (the design that Work.co uses) would be appropriate, appealing, useful, or functional to/for the target audience.

    I also looked at all those logos that go with those confusing and illogical categories ("newly diagnosed", "in treatment", etc.) that Beesie mentioned earlier, and they are all just plain creepy. They remind me of slithering worms, snakes, blobs, and insects.

    Why is BCO being made over in Work.co's image?

    As before, BCO should just scrap this whole thing, get a new company either via paying or charitable donation, and start all over. Find out the needs, desires, and preferences of the target audience before just going with whatever this Work.co thinks is a good design (their own site design apparently). Did a significant number of members of this discussion community ask to be able to upload their medical records? Did a significant number of members voice that they really, really like the articles and would prefer more of them, over the ability to communicate with other discussion board members for direct/personal support? I've yet to hear from anyone in this community who says that they participated in pre launch testing of some kind, even though BCO says they did.

    If any members took part in pre launch testing would you please chime in?

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    We have noted your feedback. Thank you.

  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited March 2022

    PRE-LAUNCH CONSULTATION

    I was part of a smallBCO group kept informed about the new site. The last thing we were told was that the main board was having a much-needed makeover, but as for the community pages, they would not be done at the same time. There was no site testing by this group.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2022

    threetree,

    I did not participate in any testing.

    That said, I do remember that maybe 3 years ago there was discussion with the Mods in one thread about BCO's vision for the future. The Mod (Melissa, I would guess) mentioned that BCO planned to change the site so as to become the primary medical source for breast cancer patients, where they could store their diagnosis and treatment data and get the information they need to make their treatment decisions, all in one place. My memory is a bit fuzzy (a side effect f endocrine therapy, and aging!) but I seem to recall that the idea was poorly received; I don't think anyone who commented thought it was a good idea, with members wondering who would trust an unknown website with all their medical data and who would come here rather than their doctor or their hospital's portal.


  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited March 2022

    PRE-LAUNCH CONSULTATION

    I was part of a small BCO group kept informed about the new site. The last thing we were told was that the main board was having a much-needed makeover, but as for the community pages, they would not be done at the same time. There was no site testing by this group.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2022

    The forum cannot be the target audience. It wouldn't be this bad

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    Hey All, The design was pretested. We know that we need to get the performance better. We so appreciate the reporting of your glitches. Again, we're doing our best. Thanks for your help.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2022

    Beesie - I think post count is a better measure of activity than anything related to traffic. Usually unique visitors are tracked. You can track page views but I’m not sure how it’s counted for errors. The error message is a different page. With the navigation issues we’ve had, traffic is inflated artificially because we get redirected to the announcement page. How many different pages do we go through just to get back to where we were?

    Until the Latest Post per topic is corrected, the Active Topics won’t update. We can’t tell where any new posts are unless we receive an email notification.


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    We have reported the issue with Active Topics to the team, they are working on it. Thank you!

  • ThreeTree
    ThreeTree Member Posts: 709
    edited March 2022

    Beesie - Thanks for your input about the discussions you remember from a few years ago. Your recollection is very interesting, as I have never seen anything on this site, where they seek out members' opinions, except for those posted threads, e.g. what to do to keep taking endocrine therapy as prescribed, etc. As for the focus and operation of the site itself, I just haven't seen any requests for input.

    I really appreciate too, the comments you've made in the previous several pages. You've brought up some very good points that I people take heed of.

    Also, I sure do hear you about the letrozole brain and aging stuff! Yikes.

    Traveltext - Thanks for your comment also about being part of the small group that was at least given some sort of heads up about a coming change. I just can't believe that there was no advance announcement that they were planning to change things, along with some highlights of what those changes might be. It would have been helpful to have gotten some word that an overhaul was in the works.

    Wrenn - I've gotten a lot from the many comments you've made too. Thanks for hanging in there.


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    Thank you ALL for hanging in there.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2022

    Ah, the negative unread posts show up when the system doesn't correctly update to the latest post. When I just signed in, this thread showed with the last post being from SerenityStat 2 hours ago, and it showed that I had -15 unread posts. I would guess that in the past 2 hours there have been 15 posts since SerenityStat's that I have read, or maybe 17 posts and I'd read all but 2 of them.

    Threetree, just to clarify, the discussion I remember wasn't in a thread that was started to talk about future changes. As I recall, the subject of the future direction of the site came up as a "by the way" mention on a thread on a different subject. Thinking back with my fuzzy memory, it could even have been this thread, or one similar, where we were discussing changes that had been made and a mention was made of future changes. So it wasn't that our input was specifically sought but just that the topic happened to come up. I'm tempted to go back 2-3 years in this thread to see if the discussion was here, but with the slow loading and all the site down messages, that would be a time-consuming major exercise that's not worth the effort, even though I'm curious to see if my recollection is correct.


  • ceanna
    ceanna Member Posts: 5,270
    edited March 2022

    Beesie, thanks for posting that error. I was trying to login to say the "Active Topics" list showed no new posts on this thread and others for 3 hours, yet there are over 20 in this thread alone. Unfortunately, after logging in three times, each time I hit several "site down" errors, looped back around and tried from different approaches, including the new "Dashboard" which didn't work either, and then finally got in!!

    I also have not been able to access a couple of threads for days and always get a "site down" error.

    Traveltext, thanks for your input, and nice to see you again! I, too, was part of some input group several years ago--after one of the last times BCO tried to make changes without member input. We met a few times online, and then were never asked again.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited March 2022

    It would have been kind if a heads up had been given so closely knit groups could have given out email addresses (or other means of contact) in the event of this mess. There must be a few who are just coping on their own now.


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2022

    Thank you Beesie -- that does seem to be the issue with the negative read posts. This has been reported to the team!

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