Rant away about COVID, the vaccine, etc.

Olma - COVID is more deadly seems to be the answer.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2021-03-11/covid-19-was-far-deadlier-than-the-1957-and-1968-flu-pandemics

That's a universal idiot!

I did think of you, Alice when I saw the report about possible kidney damage from Covid19. I remembered you had kidney cancer in the past.

I just don't understand people who say they are afraid of potential side effects of the vaccine 10 or twenty years down the line, when we have proof right now of a number of life altering "side effects" of even a mild case of Covid19. Does not compute.

Trish

Just saw that Joe Rogan, the rabid anti- vaccination podcaster, has Covid19. Talk about karma in real time.

wrenn: how did I miss that rally? Was it in Vancouver at the Art Gallery? I was attempting to give myself a news break. I thought maybe I'd pop in to CNN before turning in. What was I thinking? Water pouring down the stairs of the NYC subway, cars submerged on city streets, a tornado in the Bronx. That and SCOTUS demurring on Texas' Gilead abortion laws. It took forever to fall asleep. To my American sisters ---- yes, we have our idiots. We aren't entirely the Gentle Giant (land) on your doorstep. Post-Covid neurological problems is a terrifying thought. Will it cause an increase in dementia down the road. Perhaps the anti-maskers are already demented.

That rally was heartbreaking. It was akin to a Trump rally from the comments I heard.

What kind of malicious nutters protest against health care for ANYTHING?

HCWs who are anti-vaxxers are not caring for our health.

https://www.cma.ca/news-releases-and-statements/cma-and-cna-call-mandatory-covid-19-vaccinations-health-care-workers

Elderberry, maybe it's some of the U.S. survivalist nutters who live in our north woods and accidentally wandered into Canada, because maps and compasses and Google also interfere with their Freedumb. I'm thinking those people have a virulent mental and moral disease that's every bit as dangerous to the common welfare as Covid is.

Melbo - We are so lucky to be able to get any vaccine. Other countries aren't so lucky.

is anybody watching The Indian Doctor on PBS? It's quite interesting because the plot is around small pox outbreak in a small Welsh town and how people reacted to small pox vaccine and quarantine.

Very little has changed since the 60s.

The small pox conundrum is in Series 2.

What are the reasons? I asked by PM, but haven't received an answer.

Still have no answer. I'm thinking of going elsewhere. Not FB. Maybe be active on Twitter. Just been lurking over there.

Wow... I have tried valiantly to catch up on this post but have given up. It's moving fast!

Apologies if this is repeating thoughts others have shared but I saw several posts asking why vaccinated people feared the unvaccinated and wanted to add my two cents.

First and foremost, I have a crappy lung as a result of my malignant pleural effusion. In 2018, after it had been almost completely dried up for a year with the exception of a few loculated pockets of fluid, I went on a bucket trip to England which included a British Isles cruise. Unfortunately, I managed to pick up the bug that made the rounds of the ship just before disembarking. That "bug" became full blown pneumonia, the first I have ever experienced. I have never been that sick in my life. I have no doubt that COVID would not be a good scene for me.

Secondly, as many have noted, vaccines are not 100% guarantees and ones immunity diminishes with time. To add to the challenges, I was going through active chemo when I was vaccinated which likely means my immune response was muted (maybe, maybe not). In addition, our jurisdiction chose to space out the vaccinations to try to get as many folks vaccinated as possible. That meant that there was almost 11 weeks between my first and my second dose. And while there were some studies that demonstrated that a longer period between the first and second dose was optimal, my jurisdiction quietly changed the rules to give cancer patients their second dose after a three week interval - about the time I was getting my second dose. So, I really don't know how much coverage I have.

Thirdly, vaccines are highly effective but they still are not a guarantee that you will not get seriously ill. While breakthrough cases are rare, there are still about 13% of the hospitalized patients here who are double vaccinated. Largely those who are older or immunocompromised. Um... that's probably me. I'm 59 and my life is already being cut very short. I will be seriously pissed if a stupid virus does me in after going through so much with treatments. I also live with my 90 year old mother. Would rather she didn't shuffle off due to COVID either as it's a nasty way to go.

And unfortunately, while I am taking all the necessary precautions, my mask does not protect me. It protects others. I am finding that the numbers who don't take it seriously anymore has increased exponentially and despite all my best attempts, there are constantly people "in my space". I can do everything right and some yahoo decides that his rights don't mean that he needs to social distance, etc. (We had a story locally the other day with a guy who refused to wear a mask coming back to urinate all over the counter and floor of a fast food restaurant. Really???)

I have nothing but empathy for the folks who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons. We're in the same boat, hiding out to try to stay safe. (I can't recall who posted to say that they felt cheated by this. Me too. I feel that I am losing precious time when there is so much I would like to be doing.) But I am frustrated with those who can get vaccinated and don't. For all the reasons I have given, it's important to drive up vaccination rates as that is what will protect everyone, including those who can't be vaccinated (children among them).

Finally, I want to comment on the Irvermectin issue. I find it fascinating that a vaccine is scary but a worm medicine for animals is not. It's particularly ironic to me as Ivermectin is a drug (and within a class of drugs) that would kill my dog if she was to take it. I had one dog almost die from Imodium (same class of drugs). Nothing is 100% safe for everyone...

Edited to add that today's number indicate that 16% of hospitalized cases in our province are the fully vaccinated.

chowdog,

I was not joking when I asked about the beast. What is that reference to? For some reason I feel as if it might have something to do with religion. Can you or anyone out there explain, please?

I have been trying to stay away, for the most part. Darn , I came for a quick check and got sucked in again 😉.