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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited August 2021

    I have come here to yell. One of our dear stage iv sisters, in the midst of dealing with her own progression and treatment change, is caring for her sister who is in a nursing home dying of metastatic breast cancer. And now, one of the STAFF at the NURSING HOME has tested positive for covid. Bet you $100 this stupid, selfish person is not vaccinated. And now the sisters may not be able to visit properly because of this.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited August 2021

    The hardship that unvaccinated and unmasked people are continuing to cause everyone is so immense. i'm yelling with you SP.

    If someone doesn't want to get the vax or mask, then stay TF home. Go nowhere. Stay home,

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    🤬 All healthcare staff members need to be vaccinated.

    Anyone who hasn't been vaccinated due to a valid concern of vaccine side effects needs to reevaluate their risk of exposure to the Delta variant. It's more infectious and likely result in worse symptoms. At least vaccinations are controlled events. You can prepare for side effects from vaccination.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    I'm taking care of my LE arm so I won't need to go to the ED again. So far that's the only time I've had to go. Also being extra careful in the kitchen. And keeping away from milk crates!

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  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited August 2021

    USC just Released a study that I’m sure surprises no one -there were many more unvaccinated people going to bars and going to indoor large events also the unvaccinated are much less likely to wear a mask at these events even though we’ve had a voluntary wear a mask if you’re not vaccinated. Of course now we have a mask mandate regardless of vaccination status which I must say everybody here is sighing with relief because no one ever trusted the unvaccinated to mask up. a whole Lotta stupid going on

    I feel very bad for anyone who is hospiced, hospitalized, nursing homed and facing lifeall alone due to stupid choices of others.

  • candy-678
    candy-678 Member Posts: 3,950
    edited August 2021

    SP--- Thank you, my friend.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    The hospital in Elko County, Nevada is begging its citizens to get vaccinated and wear a mask. Only 26% is fully vaccinated.

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited August 2021

    That is a great letter.

    ((((Candy))))❤️💜♥️

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Here in Backassward Central, aka Missouri, the state attorney general, who is as rotten as Gubner Evil Goober Parson, is filing a lawsuit AGAINST the mask mandates in some school districts. Fuck him, with a Sequoia log covered in fire ants.

  • KIDI919
    KIDI919 Member Posts: 425
    edited August 2021

    Bcincolorado, Thank you so much for the reminder. Idt I've ever looked at it!

    Ctmb, Not far from us. Hope you had fun!

  • AMG2
    AMG2 Member Posts: 130
    edited August 2021

    Ooh Alice! I'd always heard sideways with a cactus, but the fire ants are a nice touch!

    I haven't lived in MO since 1984, but yeesh, I hear you, and I'm sorry. Hope sanity and sense of obligation toward others return at some point in my lifetime.

  • Rah2464
    Rah2464 Member Posts: 1,647
    edited August 2021

    Oh Alice the visual! But I whole heartedly agree. A large chunk of our population is nuts.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited August 2021

    I'm a (mostly) retired nurse. I spent most of my time from January to May volunteering to give vaccinations. In the very beginning, it was heartwarming to give our elderly citizens their shots. They were so grateful. "You've given me my family and freedom back."

    Fast forward to today, where self-centeredness, zero concern for one's fellow man, and an arrogant sense of immortality reigns. "I won't get COVID, but if I do, it will be like the flu. I'm not worried. My healthy immune system will protect me." In these, the unvaccinated, the virus replicates and mutates and becomes more infectious for EVERYONE. This is the crowd that beats the drums of personal freedom, unconstitutional mandates, junk science.

    OK. Exercise your personal freedom. Don't take the vaccination. STAY HOME. You're not welcome at schools, restaurants, sporting events, concerts, church, public transportation, stores.

    It seems to me that in the past, during other severe public health crises, communities were eager to work together toward a common good. Mothers stood in long, long lines with their children, grateful to be receiving polio vaccines. People wore masks and helped their neighbors during the Spanish flu. Today, though, we have airplane passengers assaulting one another over requests to wear a mask. Conversations in social media deteriorate into name-calling, taunting, sometimes threats.

    What have we become?

  • candy-678
    candy-678 Member Posts: 3,950
    edited August 2021

    sbelizabeth- So true.

  • Rosiecat
    Rosiecat Member Posts: 1,111
    edited August 2021

    sbelizabeth - I share your anger and frustration at the utter selfishness of those idiots who reject vaccination. They put the rest of us at risk without a second thought. As for those contemptible individuals who invent and disseminate vaccination conspiracy theories, I can't put into words what I'd like to do with them.

    Take care.



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    sbelizabeth - We've crossed the line where public health requires mandates that people claiming "my freedom" will fight against. I saw the Pentagon released a statement that all military will be required to be fully vaccinated including those who had COVID (in addition to their other required vaccines). Someone posted it should be called "Operation Valley Forge" since Washington mandated his troops be vaccinated against smallpox.

    Starting September 1 Quebec will require a vaccine passport to gain access to non-essential services. We've had mask mandates back since Delta began surging.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    Rosiecat - What I would like to do to the anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists? Vax, mask, and turn off their WiFi.

  • Betrayal
    Betrayal Member Posts: 1,374
    edited August 2021

    Great visual of responsibilities but we have a large population that feels they do not have shared ones nor do they observe all personal ones. My masked DH was confronted by a woman who got in his face to ask if "he was incognito". He was too astonished to muster a response. Wish it had been me, I'd have handed her her head and then some. I have no kind words left for their ignorance and behaviors.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    Betrayal - People unable to do their part is why we need mandates. For your husband, I recommend a phrase I used when I stepped between a friend and her stalky-ex who wouldn't let her leave: "Back the F*CK Up!". I had to repeat and step forward each time, but it worked. I'm under 5' so I need to be more forceful. 😁


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    COVID is bad for business. There will be more of this.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    Pretty clever of Delta Air. Rather than issue a vaccine mandate or pay incentives, they're recouping some of the $$$ paid out. Employees have to provide proof of vaccine to stop the automatic premium of $200 each month. Vaccinations are free. Do the math.


  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited August 2021

    Oh, I hope we see more hits to unvaccinated peoples' wallets, the bigger the better.

    And of course those who can't receive the vaccine for valid medical reasons should be exempt from that.

    Personally, I'm sick of religion being used as an excuse for anti-vaxxers (or anything else). I don't care what you believe, but it damn well better not endanger or even inconvenience anyone else, at any time, for any reason.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    There should be medical exemptions, but those need validation. There are too many people deciding themselves that they can't take the vaccine. I read someone claiming diabetes makes him susceptible to the vaccine. Puh-lease! Diabetics are one of the viruses faves.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited August 2021

    Here in BC medical exemptions don't give people a pass. If you aren't vaccinated for whatever reason you aren't allowed certain things indoors. AND since they announced our vaccine passports registration for 1st dose have doubled. So some anti vaxxers are not that true to their cause.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    wrenn - I think there should be a medical exemption for the insurance surcharge (not a worry here in Canada). While the cases are rising, those unvaccinated for health reasons should stay home since anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers are not. Here non-essential services require the vaccine passport.

  • GG27
    GG27 Member Posts: 2,128
    edited August 2021

    I am so angry about people not taking simple precautions about covid, have we not learned anything from the last 18 months of this??? I have to travel 5+ hours each way for my trial, part of it stuck on a ferry. When we got into the parking lot waiting for the ferry, the car next to us had a guy sitting there, coughing, hacking spewing phlegm everywhere. So we rolled up our windows & put the top up even though it was stinking hot, once they put you in your assigned line, you cannot move.

    We thought that the way they load the ferry there would be no way this guy would be near us, nope, he was almost right beside us again. Then he gets out of his car & goes upstairs to where everyone is sitting, without a mask, to spread his germs everywhere. OMG buddy, what the F is wrong with you??? I don't care if it was "only" a cold, you don't need to be spreading your germs around. This is why I think we are never getting out of this.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2021

    There's no mask mandate? 🤬

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited August 2021

    Thank you, friends, for letting me vent here. I have taken a personal oath to avoid engaging in this topic with friends and family and community members because it will just go sideways. It seems like no one can have a civil conversation anymore, and I have no desire to try to convince anyone that their conspiracy theories and unresearched and sometimes dangerous COVID treatments are not based in reality or science.

    Bona fide medical conditions that contraindicate a COVID vaccination are extremely rare. If someone wants to wave this flag they should be mandated to provide a physician's proof, and they should be mandated to wear a mask in public. "My naturopath says I have interstitial inflammation so I can't get the vaccine." Hogwash.

    Bravo for Delta Airlines. When an anti-vaxxer is forced to pay up or roll up their sleeve, we'll see how long they stand by their junk science and smug selfishness.

    Don't get vaccinated if you don't want to. Just stay home. Let the rest of us operate in a world that cares about public health, wants to beat this pandemic, and move on with life and hope.

  • moth
    moth Member Posts: 4,800
    edited August 2021

    The mask mandate for transit in BC just came back effective today. For a while everyone was pretending covid was over. I'm not happy with our PHO at all..... days before putting the mask mandate back she was at a football game taking unmasked selfies with strangers. Last fall she wrote an op-ed saying masks were bad just days before institiuting a mask mandate. She's a flippety floppity gongshow.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited August 2021

    I think Bonnie Henry is more interested in being a media star than a scientist. I think she was a poor choice as PHO

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