STEAM ROOM FOR ANGER

Anonymous

Florida 🤬

I see Orlando wants residents to restrict water use to conserve liquid oxygen. Hospitals need more liquid oxygen to treat COVID patients so there will be less liquid oxygen to treat wastewater. May need to issue boil advisory. How about promoting masks, vaccinations, and physical distancing? Instead they'll sacrifice clean water. Surely that shouldn't cause any problems. 🤢

I have several relatives throughout Florida. Found out yesterday that one in Tampa recently got COVID. He's fully vaccinated, but had a sore throat and fatigue. His sense of smell is still gone.

Rain88

Spookiesmom, really funny!

Sunshine99

molliefish, I'm glad I'm not the only one who has sat at a stop sign waiting for it to turn green!

ctmbsikia

Went to the GI doc. She was nice. Huge practice. Had to wait, it was the end of the day appt. Left there expecting a phone call to schedule the stretching the esophagus procedure but instead they called to say doc wants lab and abdominal ultrasound sound due to elevated alk phos level. She did not mention this to me during our visit! I hate that! Why? Why aren’t my GP and MO worried about my alk phos? It’s been elevated since I started this..,….CRAP Another test Io pass. Hopefully ugh.

Rain88

Ctmbsikia, tests and scans are draining! No matter what kind, my mind gets into that neurotic mode, with battering grim thoughts. I hope you'll get answers soon and then be done with tests at least for a little while.

LW422

BCinColorado--I hope I didn't read your post correctly, that you "pray for them to die?" Seriously? If you are fully vaccinated, why do you feel the need to hate people who made a different choice? If you don't feel the vaccine protects you, then why did you bother to get it? I just don't understand the vitriol that has become commonplace in this world. (And if I read your post wrong, I apologize.)

Anonymous

No vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infection. Vaccinated people are less infectious, less likely to get seriously ill, less likely to die, and less likely to produce variants. Unvaccinated people are overwhelming hospitals.

Seatbelts don't prevent all deaths, but we still use them. Also it's mandated by the government that we use them.

Please get vaccinated. Wear a mask. Wear a seatbelt.

bcincolorado

No you did read it wrong. I do not want anyone to die. Just sometimes see no point in fighting all of it. Tired of t all and see no way out out right now to live a life at all. Why should I bother to put myself through more tests and to pokes and everything. I will probably never be able to live a normal life again or travel before I die so why brother prolonging things? I was told 2 years I had probably an average of 7 years left of a life that I could actually do things due to other health issues I have and we should travel and see family and do things now before I could not anymore. Then COVID hit and I've been inside now for a very long time and I do not have that long to live anyway. Hate it all and people not letting me live any life at all I have left. DH is immune suppressed from transplant. We cannot go anywhere. Dad lives in COVID TEXAS right now and is isolated at home but is 87 now. Can't even go see him again either. Just sad.

exbrnxgrl

bcincolorado,

I hear your frustration loud and clear and I share much of it. I am in fairly good physical shape but also feel restricted in terms of planning travel or even a restaurant visit! I am not close to the end but at stage IV, I do have a lot of resentment towards those who will not mask and vaccinate. As serenity stated, no vaccine is 100% effective but the evidence is strong. Those getting critically ill and dying are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. And don’t even get me started on people who object to wearing masks or claiming their children can’t breathe in masks*. Once kids were on campus last year, all grades and staff were required to wear masks. I taught first grade. None of my fellow first grade and kindergarten teacher colleagues reported any students being unable to breathe when masked. I watched some footage of anti-mask parents pounding on a car and threatening a pro-mask parent who was trying to leave a school board meeting. What would possess grown ups to behave like that? The only good news is vaccination rates are on the rise.

I also wonder why people are so black and white about the vaccines. They are eager to say that because of break through cases that the vaccine doesn’t work! In that case perhaps we should stop brushing our teeth because I know someone who brushed regularly and still got a cavity 🦷. Sheesh, it’s unbelievable, isn’t it?

* I am not talking about folks who truly have legit medical reasons for not getting vaccinated or masking.

Anonymous

bcincolorado - I'm so sorry. Your family is the reason we as a community need to get the pandemic under control. Transplant recipients and others with severe immunodeficiencies are at higher risk than everyone else. It's too risky for you to be exposed to others who are not vaccinated and not wearing masks. Hopefully more people will be vaccinated as some of the vaccines get full FDA approval soon.

Anonymous

exbrnxgrl - I don't understand people against masks either. HCWs wear them for hours without passing out. I wore one even with a rash on my face. Yes, it was uncomfortable. Still did it.

exbrnxgrl

Thanks serenity. As a recently retired teacher, I still focus on education a great deal. I really think that children are very adaptable and as I said, even our youngest students had no problems masking last year. The anti-mask,parents especially ones threatening people who disagree with them, are the problem.

ShetlandPony

Not to mention that in some places, someone with a not-preventable acute medical problem like a car accident or heart attack -- or complications from stage iv breast cancer -- may not get the care they need from a hospital that is overwhelmed with (unvaccinated) covid patients. People's choices affect other people too!

Anonymous

There are many articles on people not getting proper medical care due to hospitals running out of resources due to COVID. Orlando is running low on liquid oxygen because of them. They decided sacrificing clean water was the solution (I don't think so).

exbrnxgrl

Seriously friends, unless you live all by yourself on an island you will always need to think about how your actions effect others. That is part of being a member of society. When did so many people stop caring about others and how their action or lack of of action effects others?

AliceBastable

exbrnxgrl, It happened because several asshole politicians who got powerful during the last administration, headed by that malevolent egotist who they try to emulate, turned a public health issue into a political one. Sometimes I wish I had just enough religion to pray they'd all rot in hell.

exbrnxgrl

Yes, I understand what some of those self serving politicians did. What I don’t understand is why so many folks chose to believe them. That is what I find mind boggling.

Anonymous

Don't forget the media that spew anti-vaxxer misinformation, but they themselves are vaccinated due to a mandate from their employer.

Nkb

not to mention the health care workers who will die taking care of the non vaccinated who don’t seem to understand doing something for the greater good of all. Law suits are beginning of the unvaccinated who got covid and caused death from infecting people. I’m exhausted with the politics My daughter is a K teacher- her 3 year old wears a mask all day at pre- school.
please get vaccinated, wear a mask, take care of the vulnerable- it is us

DebAL

my daughter had only been out of nursing school 1 year when all this shit started. First time around she was on a covid floor for 12 weeks. Back then she was the only one in the room. Doctors relied on her assessment. They stood outside the door. No tech. She changed the bed and did the baths. No phlebotomy, she drew the labs. She did respiratory treatments. She did not sign up for this. They wanted minimal staff in contact with the patients. Somehow she still remained empathetic.

Second surge she had help this time around but patients crashed fast. She constantly transferred patients to ICU. She remained empathetic.

She is over it. Hopefully she will not have to work a covid floor again but I have my doubts. It doesn't have to be this way. There are unvaccinated nurses out there. Maybe they should take care of the unvaccinated patients. My daughter has done her time

wrenn

Minimizing people who refuse to be vaccinated during a pandemic by saying they "made a different choice" is off the mark. If someone chooses to not wear a seatbelt they endanger their own lives. Not being vaccinated is endangering the fucking planet. To say agree to disagree doesn't work here. This pandemic would have been over a year ago if there weren't so many really stupid gullible people out there.

I am sick of staying away from these idiots and worrying about my daughter and grand daughter and my neighbours and the state of the damned universe. Feckkkkk

Trishyla

To take your seatbelt analogy a little further, wrenn, choosing to be unvaccinated in the middle of the worst global Pandemic in a hundred years is akin to driving drunk through a crowd of vulnerable people, including children, the elderly, the immunocompromised. Yeah, there's a small possibility you won't hit someone and kill them, but why the hell take a chance?

Get the damn vaccine.

Rant off.

Anonymous

wrenn - I only brought up seatbelt use as an example of something we do that doesn't work 100% of the time and is mandated by the government. Same for many vaccines, but seems people have forgotten.

I have a few HCWs in the family. They're all vaccinated and COVID free. Remarkable given that throughout the pandemic one works the COVID ward in LA and two are in Florida (paramedic and trauma nurse). Vaccines and masks work!

Vaccines given worldwide: 4.19 billion!

wrenn

serenity, I got that. 😷

I was referring to another post. Equating being vaccinated with making a different choice or freedom makes me crazy.

AliceBastable

That "they made a different choice" is way too close to a certain malevolent egotist describing the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville and the people who bravely stood up to them as "good people on both sides." Absolute horseshit.

exbrnxgrl

I am in agreement with all of you and equally frustrated by those who refuse to vaccinate or mask. What frustrates me even more is what to do about it. What practical solutions might there be? I am at a loss to think of anything. In my area, SF Bay/Silicon Valley, we have a high vaccination rate but we have also had massive public campaigns to educate and inform the population about the need to get vaccinated. Billboards, TV/radio ads, ads on buses, you name it, but it’s clear that even that is not enough for some.

Anonymous

We need more vaccine mandates. Easier once there's full approval for some vaccines. All HCW should've been vaccinated long ago. Add COVID to the list of mandatory vaccines for military, travel, and school.

We need mask mandates and improved ventilation in schools. I know people say that remote learning is not good for kids, but kids need consistency more. They need to not have their teachers dying or becoming disabled. Classmates dying is bad. I still remember one girl in my high school dying by suicide. Can't imagine more than that.

Businesses need same mandates. Beating the pandemic is good for business.

We also need to vaccinate everywhere. It's horrifying that vaccines here are thrown out due to expiration when other countries are begging for them.

exbrnxgrl

serenity,

I agree that we need those mandates but enacting them, at least in the US, has been rough. We have governors (TX, FL) who make it illegal for school districts to mandate masking and people who are willing to sue or throw up any possible legal challenge to mandates. And, they appear to be willing to fight to the death, literally, to defend their “rights and freedom”. Never have two words been so misunderstood!It makes me want to cry.

wrenn

Many Canadians say they will never travel to the US after watching the handling of the pandemic but we have our crazies here in Canada as well. Maybe not as many and I haven't come across any personally but I can't imagine living someplace where there were so many politicians who are raving mad. I am impressed to see how well the sane Americans are holding up with this nightmare. It's heartbreaking.

Anonymous

exbrnxgrl - Lawsuits have been filed against the ban on mask mandates. Some school districts are going around the ban by adding masks to dress codes. The majority of people are for vaccinations and masks. Vaccinated people are losing patience. Unvaccinated people are dying. When they die, some of their families convert. It's terrible that people won't change their minds unless personally affected. The vaccinated need to speak up.

wrenn - We have crazies here, too. Fortunately not as many. But the majority of eligible people in the US has been fully vaxxed. Unfortunately we need more than a supermajority to beat the pandemic.