Post-biopsy anxiety with cancer confirmation

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karin196
karin196 Member Posts: 3
edited March 2021 in Waiting for Test Results

Hi all,

I’m very new to this forum and this is actually about my mom (52) and her suspicious lump. To start off, she had her annual mammogram Feb 11. There was a lump about 2 cm found, and her doctor had her scheduled for another mammogram + ultrasound March 3. The lump was about 2.1 cm x 2.1 cm x 2.0 cm and they also found a suspicious axillary lymph node about 3.2 cm x 1.7 cm x 1.8 cm during the ultrasound and in the report it said BI-RADS 4 (I’m not really sure what that is but it says ‘Suspicious’). She had her biopsy March 17 on both breast and lymph node, and she had abnormal bleeding on her lymph node biopsy which the radiologist commented that “there was an excess of blood vessels gathered there.” They also recommended an MRI because her breast tissue is dense and she has a new retracted nipple where the lump is. On March 19 (2 days after her biopsy even though they said there would be extensive testing done) she received a call from her doctor who said both samples were positive for cancer. He didn’t specify anything else but already spoke to the surgical oncologist in-office and had her call him to schedule an appointment for March 22 (which is Monday and the office is supposed to be closed). We don’t even have the pathology report to know anything else aside from that it is in fact breast cancer.

I’m just super anxious because we have no family history of breast cancer, and we receive the confirmation that it was cancer so soon after the biopsy but don’t have any specifics. Is it normal to have an appointment so soon after receiving biopsy results even though we had to wait for weeks at a time for each test? Is it normal to receive biopsy results within 2 days but without the pathology report? I’ve never experienced having a family member with cancer before so I’m extremely anxious and scared

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2021

    Hello - you are in the right place for your questions and for what is to come - welcome!

    The diagnostic process you have described is pretty par for the course and I really wish surgeons and oncologists would recognize that a bit more of a heads up as to how the process works, common timeframes, and whats next would be really helpful.

    Here in the UK they do the physical exam, mammogram and then straight to ultrasound/biopsy if needed from those results. By the time you leave the clinic they can tell you if its likely cancer or likely not, but not definitive. Follow up discussion on the results (is, isnt cancer for sure and next steps) is up to 2 weeks later and then it could be more diagnostics or straight to surgery, and a pathology report shows up in the mail at some point. A lot of women don't find out stage until after surgery.

    Even though the US follows a slightly different approach,the time it takes is still roughly the same. I wouldn't read too much into the scheduling if the office is supposed to be closed, they will have you/her come in and discuss the findings and next steps. Hopefully someone with direct experience of this will chime in.

    I know the cancer is a shock and having to deal with so many different doctors and new terms is a lot to take in. Be glad that this was caught through annual monitoring and is still likely early stage - this is exactly how the process is supposed to work and it worked for your mom! Also, many women with breast cancer didn't necessarily have a family history, just the same as women who have heavy family histories don't necessarily have the BRCA gene.

    Is your mother able/interested to participate in the forum directly with her concerns?


  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited March 2021

    karin, Sorry you and your mom are going thru this. You may have more questions than answers for a little while, but hang tight. Her Dr's seem to be doing everything possible to get those answers to you in a timely manner. Better to have them quickly than to have to wait. Your Mom may have more testing done before they have a treatment plan. You may want to ask the facility if they have a Nurse Navigator on their staff to help guide you and offer resources as you go. I'm sure your Mom feels lucky to have you by her side. Best wishes.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2021

    Karin, welcome!

    First off, about 85% of breast cancers occur in people who have no family history. So the fact that your mother has been diagnosed with breast cancer but there is no family history is not unusual and doesn't indicate anything either positive or negative. It's just very common.

    Second, getting the top-line biopsy results within 2 days is not unusual. Nor is it unusual to have to wait for the more detailed results. Hopefully those are available by the time of her appointment with the surgeon. Your mother should ensure that she receives a copy of all the imaging reports, and the pathology report from the biopsy, either through an on-line portal or a hard copy.

    The critical information your mother and her doctors need to make the next decisions are the ER and PR status, the HER2 status (this can take longer), the grade of the cancer, the subtype of the cancer (these call come from the pathology report), and the estimated size of the cancer (which you seem to have; this comes from the imaging reports). Depending on these factors, either a lumpectomy or mastectomy will be recommended; if a lumpectomy is recommended, your mother can opt for a MX instead. In some cases, chemo may be recommended prior to surgery. If there is any possibility of neoadjuvant chemo being recommended, your mother will need to see a Medical Oncologist - the surgeon operates but the MO handles everything else.

    As was mentioned, your mother may be sent for additional imaging - it depends on the diagnosis and the preferences of the doctor.

    Will you be attending her appointments with your mother?

    While family members are very welcome here, it helps us in responding to understand the situation when a family member is posting - for example, it's different if a family member is asking for her own knowledge vs. if she is in charge of her family member's care. Does your mother know that you are discussing her situation here? And have you told her about the site so that she can join? We've all been in her shoes and can offer her a lot of support and advice.





  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited March 2021

    Karin,

    I haven’t much to add but do agree with all who have commented. Of particular importance is understanding that the vast majority of breast cancers are NOT caused by familial genetic connections. This seems to be a common misconception, but with what is currently known, genetic connections are the exception not the norm. Unless there is a compelling reason for your mom not to be on bco, I would encourage her to join us. As a daughter (I have two daughters myself) your love, support, and help will be invaluable but it’s always best when the patient themselves can take the wheel and seek support and info first hand.

    Lastly, please don’t try to “read the tea leaves”. What I mean by this is don’t attempt to come to conclusions based on how long it takes for test results to be released, the expression on the face of someone delivering medical care, etc. Reading the tea leaves is a very inaccurate predictor of most things. All the best to your mom.

    *I am a Caryn!

  • flashlight
    flashlight Member Posts: 698
    edited March 2021

    Hi karin196, Your Mom is lucky to have such a caring, supportive, daughter. I had my biopsy done by a radiologist and she called my PCP with the results. My PCP and radiologist then called me. They had talked it over and gave me their opinion on which BS I should see and then the radiologist scheduled my appointment for the following week. Everything happened so fast or it seemed to. Are you going to see the BS with your Mom? At that appointment you can ask for the pathology report of the biopsy. The BS will go over everything and then give your Mom her opinion on what surgery she should have or give your Mom options to think about. For me, I was able to schedule my surgery before I left and was able to complete pre-op testing at the hospital. There might be a treatment team of doctors who will then meet with your Mom, after surgery, to discuss her treatment plan. Your Mom will have more information about her cancer after surgery. As others have said it helps to have a plan in place. Best of luck to you and your Mom.

  • LivinLife
    LivinLife Member Posts: 1,332
    edited March 2021

    Hi karin! Welcome to you and your mom! I cannot add to really anything that's been stated - pretty thorough on different things other members stated.... I want to wish you and your mom well tomorrow! It's great providers are on top of things like they are. My GYN was on vacation when my biopsy results came back and he was the ordering physician - so 6 days went by before he called me from home on his cell phone with results.... Please check back in with any new developments. You can see we are a caring group wanting to be supportive any way we can....

  • karin196
    karin196 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2021

    Hi everyone, thank you all for your kind words and advice. My mom does have knowledge of this forum and actually asked me to post for her. She told me what to write in the initial postand I also added in my own worries and concerns. She isn’t comfortable with participating directly on online forums hence the reason she’s going through me to post on the forum. We are in the US, and I am her only family in America so I will be going to her appointments with her to be the extra ears. We’ve complied a list of questions to ask the surgical oncologist tomorrow at her appointment and hopefully some of our concerns and questions can be addressed. Cancer in general is very new to my family so it will be a hard learning process but I hope that I can help my mom through her treatment. I will post updates when I have any. Once again, thank you everyone for you kind words.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited March 2021

    Karin, thanks so much for the additional information. It's good to know that we can "speak to" your mother through you, and it's great that you are able to accompany her to appointments.

    There certainly is a steep learning curve when we are first diagnosed, but I think you'll find that you pick things up quite quickly. All of us here have had different diagnoses and different experiences so there is bound to be someone who can help with any questions you have.

    Good luck to your mother and you at the appointment tomorrow. I hope you are able to get a copy of the biopsy pathology report and get your questions answered.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited March 2021

    Karin,

    I am happy to hear that your mom is being an active part of dealing with bc. So much of what happens seems like it’s out of our control when we are dx’ed (and a lot of it is!) that learning about her bc and actively participating in her treatment decisions can help her feel that she is much more than a passenger on a runaway train.

    My younger dd went to most of my initial appointments and I found that helpful. With the doctors permission we also recorded those early and/or important visits.

    We are a large and varied group of women, and some men. We are all ages, all different positions in life etc. I myself am a grandmother of three and an elementary school teacher.And if your mom ever wants to join us, we are here.

  • karin196
    karin196 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2021

    Hello everyone! Popping in with an update regarding my mom’s breast cancer. We met with the surgical oncologist (3/22) followed by the medical oncologist (3/25) this last week. Upon meeting with the surgical oncologist we were provided with the pathology results and she has stage 2 grade 2 invasive ductal carcinoma with metastatic carcinoma in her lymph node (the oncologists think it is still only in one lymph node. She is ER+, PR-, HER2 IHC negative, negative for p53 overexpression, and has a high Ki-67 proliferative index. We don’t know what the p53 and Ki-67 results mean, since the oncologists both didn’t touch on them but both agree on beginning chemo first. She’ll be starting chemo on 4/1 for three months followed by surgery and then another three months of chemo. While my mom and I are still pretty uneasy, it’s nice to know the treatment plan and the next steps.

  • LivinLife
    LivinLife Member Posts: 1,332
    edited March 2021

    Wishing you and your mom well through these next steps karin! Makes sense the two of you remain uneasy while as you also said having a plan does help. Following those steps gives some sense of control b/c you're actually able to do something in the fight... Gives a specific focus for cognitive and emotional energy as well. Thanks so much for the update! Please keep us updated as you're able.... I know these are also exhausting times for people....

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