Vocal Chords...

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NicoleRod
NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906

so for the past 6 months I have (for no apparent reason, no yelling etc) lost my voice or should I say it becomes so hoarse that its hard to speak.... I am thinking that I may have polyps or something similar and of course...I am thinking chance of cancer.. :(

I wasn't going to post here and ask but my husband wanted me to. I am already going to make an appt. tomorrow for an ENT...

Thanks,

Nicole

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  • MinusTwo
    MinusTwo Member Posts: 16,634
    edited September 2020

    sorry - didn't mean to post in a Stage IV thread

  • SeeQ
    SeeQ Member Posts: 884
    edited September 2020

    Nicole, I don't have any answers for you, but I'm sending a cyber hug and good thoughts for your ENT visit tomorrow.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2020

    Nicole, one of my many symptoms leading up to my stage IV dx last fall is that I lost my voice. I got "laryngitis" , saw an ENT who did a painless scoping and found that my left vocal cord was paralyzed. This led to a CT scan of my throat, which showed enlarged lymph nodes pressing on my laryngeal nerve. These nodes included the left superclavical node which was the largest (maybe 1.2 cm?). They were not detected when doctors felt my neck "lymph nodes" when I was seen for my other symptoms.

    Definitely call the ENT and you might want to call your oncologist as well. It could be a side effect of some of your treatment but in my case was a cancer recurrence.

    Good news is that after 4 months of treatment, my voice slowly returned and when re-scoped is no longer paralyzed. As my vocal cord improved I went from completely hoarse to normal in the morning but hoarse by 3pm and slowly it was "normal" for a longer amount of time during the day into evening to pretty much normal. Now they are all "resolved" per pet scans (have another pet next month and am hoping that is still the case).

    Hope you get some answers soon!

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited September 2020

    Nicole, My paralyzed vocal cord was caused by nerve damage during brain surgery but I can definitely sympathize, it sucks! The head and neck docs will likely make you read something out loud and check you with a scope to see if there is any physical cause. I hope it’s something easy and non-cancery. Good luck :)

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited September 2020

    I got hoarse from “silent GERD”; that is, I did not realize I was having acid reflux. It was the ENT who knew what was going on.

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    Shetland.... OH MY GOSH....I ...every once in a while feel like I can feel some GERD in my lower throat I don't have pain per say but I can feel it....maybe it's that....

    April...did you lose your voice? I am not losing my voice...it just gets hoarse.

  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited September 2020

    I have a lymph node near my esophagus that at times has grown enough to cause my voice to be hoarse. The good news is that Faslodex has caused it to resolve. That is probably not what's going on with you because mine showed up on all my scans. Mediastinal lymph node is the one I have. 💞

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2020

    Nicole, initially I was just hoarse and it would come and go but within a few weeks I completely lost my voice (which is to say I sounded like a 100 yr old woman /heavy smoker or had a very high pitched, thin scary clown voice with a lot of effort). Mine showed up on ct and pet scans so if you have had any scans lately from neck down I think they would show up. A quick scoping by an ENT (they go through your nostril ) will tell you if it's paralzyed, GERD or something else. I feel like someone on the boards got a hoarse voice from a chemo or cancer med but I couldn't find the thread when I did a quick search. GERD is a good possibility, and you can have it without any pain from heartburn (my mom has this).

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    April thanks...yes...I had a PET scan 2 weeks before the last time I lost my voice...lthat was in July.,

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    Ok went to ENT today....he looked down at my vocal chords...thank GOD its not cancer or lymph nodes...he said it's what Shetland pony said.... Silent GERD... I don't want any Proton Pump Inhibitors though because I know they interfere with Immunotherapy and although I am not on that , I am on chemo and I don't want to risk it interfering...so I am going to try Zantac?

  • BevJen
    BevJen Member Posts: 2,523
    edited September 2020

    Nicole,

    I'm sorry that they found something (GERD isn't anything to sneeze at) but happy that it wasn't cancer-related.

    But I also appreciate you posting that info about PPIs and immunotherapy. I have been on a PPI for 5 years, and just recently had an endoscopy to look at my esophagus and stomach. My GERD, even with the PPI, has gotten worse, and my esophageal cells look a bit wonky and are turning more to Barrett's esophagus, which can eventually lead to cancer. (Can't win here at all.) So my gastro doc upped my PPI dosage (which is not agreeing with me at all.)

    Immunotherapy is on my list of possible things to try. I am going to have to negotiate with the gastro doc about this. I had also previously read that PPIs can interfere with Ibrance but when I queried them about this at Hopkins, they said just not to take Ibrance and omeprazole near each other. Hmmmmmm....

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    Bev, I would quit the PPI ..maybe that is what stopped the Ibrance from working???

    I am going to try the Zantac...to be honest I am not having any heartburn...just every so often I get a burning sensation in my lower throat...like where my jugular is...I guess that is effecting my chords...My mom said to drink some fennel seeds tea or Bay leaf...I am going to try ginger and bay leaf tea...hopefully it works right now I am just trying not to talk to give it a rest..My husbands happy LOL

  • BevJen
    BevJen Member Posts: 2,523
    edited September 2020

    Nicole,

    Yeah, quitting is not so easy. The PPI keeps my GERD at bay. And my esophagus has gotten worse -- that's why the GI doc wants me on an increased dose. I used to use stuff like Tums -- now that doesn't even touch it.

    Also, I don't want to trade one type of cancer (esophageal) for another (BC) so it's going to be the lesser of the evils analysis, I'm afraid. But I am going to follow up with this.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2020

    Hi Nicole, GERD isn't easy but I am happy to hear that it is not a lymph node/ recurrence issue.


  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited September 2020

    Nicole, yay not cancer! I did not want to take meds for the GERD, so I got a wedge for my bed that raises me slightly from the waist up, and I started limiting GERD-promoting foods such as chocolate, citrus, hot peppers, mint. Also, I do not eat within two hours of lying down. My symptoms vary according to how much whatever is going on in my abdomen may crowd things and push on my digestive tract. I think my case is not as serious as Bev’s.

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    Shet ....thanks I am trying to limit those things now too. I have a feeling that all the seltzer water I drink is adding to it :(. I drink plain (no flavor) but I drink like 50 oz a day of that and 15oz of plain regular spring water.... I am going to up the regular and lessen the seltzer :(

  • Grannax2
    Grannax2 Member Posts: 2,551
    edited September 2020

    nicolerod I've been seeing ads on TV for a lawsuit against Zantac. Supposedly, long time users have gotten cancer from it. I'm kind of surprised it's still on the market. 💞

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited September 2020

    Wow Grannax really??? Well I am going to have to look at something else... I just looked it up...looks like Pepcid might be a good alternative...? Any one have info about that?

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