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  • Vilma65
    Vilma65 Member Posts: 111
    edited December 2019

    the weird logic

  • DogMomRunner
    DogMomRunner Member Posts: 616
    edited December 2019

    I must be a heathen. I chuckled out loud. Thanks Vilma

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited December 2019

    Well, I'm beginning to really like Amy Klobuchar. No, she's not as progressive as Bernie or Warren, but she strikes me as tough and competent. I hope she does well in Ohio and I might send her a few bucks to keep her in the race. I still have no firm candidate except I think Biden and Bernie really looked old tonight.

  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited December 2019

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    wishing you all a peaceful so

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited December 2019
  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited December 2019
  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2019

    Love them all. Happy Solstice.

    Trish


  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited December 2019

    Agreed with Klobuchar, Ananda. I've always liked her and hope she has a chance now. Time will tell, but I fear we'll lose with anyone but Biden at this point. Hopefully, she makes a strong push for the finish line. 

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2019

    Klobuchar is the real deal. Considered to be one of the nicest people in Washington, she still manages to get a lot done. Everyone likes her. Not many people in Congress can say that.

    If she can't be the candidate, she'd make a hell of a VP.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited December 2019

    Apparently, however, a big bitch to work for.... not perfect but I still believe she's good faith, means well and can get things done. She was tough against Kavanaugh.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited December 2019

    60 of her staffers signed a letter of support after the two people complained. I was turned in after the incompetence of one of my staff complained about me slamming a file drawer and saying fuck. It didn't go anywhere because the people who complained (I didn't swear at them, I just swore) were difficult to deal with and didn't do their jobs. Even the best bosses lose their tempers when faced with overwhelming incompetence. If that's what happened to Klobuchar, I totally understand.


  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited December 2019

    Hello fellow heathens! Holiday tip: Havea safe word ready for when the conversation gets too heated about politics or religion. I just yell out “SPAGHETTI!!” and my dad knows it’s time to zip it. It breaks the tension in a light way but works like a charm.

    Of course, you could always not say it and teach people a thing or two, but if you want an out, it works for me.

    Happy HEALTHY Holidays!

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited December 2019

    Good idea, Lauren. Could have used that tactic about 15 years ago. I actually got my husband disinherited for two years because I said (not long after hurricane Katrina)that the Shrub might not be the best president we'd ever had. My extremely conservative FIL took umbrage and basically called me a moron. My husband got involved and, well, it escalated quickly from there.

    Sadly, my FIL has just entered hospice. This will be his last Christmas. I want to make sure my husband and daughter to spend as much stress free, loving time with him as possible. So we will not be discussing politics or religion at all. That's kind of been the policy since my husband was added back into the will. It makes the holidays much easier.

    Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday, no matter what you choose to celebrate.

    Trish

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    Here we go again - with the God is on our side nonsense. Seems like every side that believes in some kind of a god, believes they (not sure which pronoun to use when talking about a god) are on the side of the people invoking their name. Whatever the reference, the one certainty is that civilians who did not want a war will die.

    NYTimes today --- "In his first public appearance since the strike that killed Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani of Iran, President Trump rallied his evangelical Christian base of supporters on Friday, portraying himself as the restorer of faith in the public square and claiming that God is "on our side."

  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited January 2020

    Trump and the Evangelicals would be comical if it weren't so damned dangerous. Every time they get involved in our government they start another unnecessary freaking war.

    I have honestly come to despise everything related to religion, especially "born again" christians. They are some of the most horrible, judgemental, hypocritical people I've ever met. Can't say I'd be upset if they had their "rapture" and all disappeared. And took all other orthodox religious zealots with them. What a peaceful world this would be.

    Here's hoping.

    Trish

  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited January 2020

    Yes, yes, a thousand times yes to your post Trish.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited January 2020

    So true! Think of the rapture we'd feel, to have all of them gone!

  • Miriandra
    Miriandra Member Posts: 1,327
    edited January 2020
  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited January 2020
  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020
  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited January 2020

    They are such prudes. Why wouldn't they be taken up wearing those clothes? Some sort of immediate transformation? Maybe only their souls will be taken in the rapture and we'll have a bunch of dead bodies to deal with. Awful thought, isn't it?

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    Maybe the following is why Americans rely on "God ": When the health care system is so very broken, it might seem logical to rely on a magic mister from above. In countries where health care is a right it makes sense to thank the system.

    Washington Post: 1/7/20

    Despite paying $8,000 more a year than anyone else, American families do not have better health outcomes, the economists argue. Life expectancy in the United States is lower than in Europe.

    "We can brag we have the most expensive health care. We can also now brag that it delivers the worst health of any rich country," Case said.


  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    I've copied this from a ChiSandy post -

    Pompeo is an ultra-Evangelical, and therefore a Revelationist. Pence is Catholic (though not Opus Dei like Justice Thomas), thus not a believer in the Rapture. He is, however, a "Dominionist," who believes that Christianity is the national religion, and that the Establishment Clause of the 1st Amendment is actually unconstitutional because it violates the Free Exercise Clause--i.e., that Fed, gov't regulations against discrimination violate the rights of those whose religions have racist or sexist biases as tenets. Dominionism crosses denominational lines--it includes both Catholics and Protestants (usually Evangelical and Fundamentalist).

    I had to look up Dominionist -holy crapolie - a new word for my vocabulary and for further understanding of the problem with our current supreme court and the presidential sphere of influence.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited January 2020

    Lets not forget Barr....

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited January 2020

    This is a very long article on the United Arab Emirates and how that country is trying to reshape the Middle East. It is the first truly long article that I have read start to finish in over a year. I learned a great deal about UAE, the Middle East, and both the Obama and Trump administrations. I recommend it to anyone who has the time. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/magazine/united...


  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    Did Mcconnell swear to God to be impartial and then admit to being exactly the opposite? Guess the 'so help me god" is an empty slogan. Maybe in reality those Republican Senators are closet atheists who know that being so would not get them elected. At least when I take an oath, I omit the so help me god bit.

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    OOPS, did not mean to delete the above:

    Did Mcconnell swear to God to be impartial and then admit to being exactly the opposite? Guess the 'so help me god" is an empty slogan. Maybe in reality those Republican Senators are closet atheists who know that being so would not get them elected. At least when I take an oath, I omit the so help me god bit.

  • LaurenInPHX
    LaurenInPHX Member Posts: 165
    edited January 2020

    Candidate Quiz

    Interesting results. Bloomberg, Biden, Klobuchar top three.

    Tulsi, Warren, and Bernie dead last.

    I do like Klobuchar. I don't think she's got a snowball's chance, but I do think she could win. 

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited January 2020

    My favorite from today's women's rally.

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