Ibrance and Atorvastatin
I've been reading on drug interaction and it seems there can be a toxic interaction between Ibrance and Atorvastatin. Is anyone else besides me taking these two meds or have you spoken to your MO about it? I'm in the process of getting my cholesterol checked again now.
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WOW! This is the first I'd heard of this, and I've been considering the COC Protocol. But now that you posted this, I also found the following:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC55118...
Very scary.
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It is scary! Here is another link I meant to post.
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Yes, the statins are degraded in the bloodstream by the same Cyp3A4 enzyme that Ibrance uses. The blood pressure medicine amlodipine also uses the same enzyme. It means that the levels of statins and/or amlodipine in your body may be higher than normal while taking Ibrance, because all of these drugs are competing for the same enzyme to get turned over and flushed out of the system, There are significant studies showing that prolonged or high levels of statins can lead to muscle weakness and deterioration, even without Ibrance, but there are blood markers that indicate this, hopefully these are scrutinzed by our oncs.Higher levels of BP meds can only be followed by reading blood pressure.
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Shouldn't this maybe also be noted in the Ibrance thread? i wouldn't have known about this thread if Bev didn't mention it in the Ringworm... its just that some people may just have their "favorite" threads refreshed and not see this...
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I'm on both Amlodipine and Atoravastatin. My MO knows and I get blood taken monthly. I guess they are keeping watch? Does this make the Ibrance less effective? Why is there always something else to worry about?
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What a tragic outcome. Jack5ie and BevJen, Thanks for making us aware. I'm on Ibrance 125 mg and Atorvastatin 10 mg. (DH takes 20 mg). I noticed in the article that the person was on 40 mg of atorvastatin which seems quite a high dose.
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Jack5ie, the interactions do not decrease the efficacy of Ibrance. But because there is (potentially) more Ibrance in the blood, there might be an increase in side effects.
Rosie, that's an important point to keep in mind. Atorvastatin (and other similar statins) have a potential for rhabdomyolysis on their own (rhabdomyolysis is what killed the poor patient in the article). It's rare (~1.5 in 100,000) and only <10% of the cases are lethal. But given the wide-spread use of statins, that is still ~800 cases every year, including 10-15 deaths.
The risk for rhabdomyolysis caused by statins is dose dependent, and the 40 mg dose has a 4-fold higher risk than the 10 mg dose. The 80 mg dose has an 11-fold higher risk (that's about 1.5 in 10,000) compared to the 10 mg dose. When you add Ibrance, as Curious explained above, the Ibrance and Atorvastatin compete for the same enzyme to be metabolized and eliminated from the body, and this can result in higher-than-normal concentrations in the blood for one or both drugs. So, for the patient in the article, it's possible that the Ibrance made the 40 mg dose "behave like" an 80 mg or even higher dose in terms of risk of rhabdomyolysis, and this person was unfortunate enough to develop a very rapid case that wasn't caught in time by blood tests and led to death.
I think it's good to raise awareness in the medical community of this drug-drug interaction, and perhaps doctors should consider lowering the statin dose on their Ibrance patients to see if perhaps a lower dose combined with Ibrance works as well as the higher dose without Ibrance. It's also good for the doctors (and patients) to know that they should take a look at the blood panels that most of us have done every month, to spot any abnormalities that could signal trouble.
But I don't think anyone should be panicking and stopping their medications - while terrible and tragic, this is still a very rare occurrence, and physicians can take simple steps to make it less life-threatening.
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Rosie, I take the same as you. The Ibrance trials were huge, and no doubt included many women taking both Ibrance and statin, and other drugs competing for the same cytochrome P450, and no significant risk factors were noted. In most cases, its not going to be obvious if you are getting 10% more of a particular medicine, for example (although my BP readings have never been lower since starting Ibrance!), but yeah the monthly blood readings would warn you if there is a problem. I suppose someone could have very low levels of the cytochrome and be more sensitive to it, but in general if you have been OK with the meds, there is no reason all of a sudden something would change and it would become a problem.
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Thanks Piggy99 and Cure-ious for shedding a little light on this. My GP did say she may lower my dose (currently 20 mg of Atorvastatin and 10 mg Amlodipine) or switch meds based on my cholesterol outcomes on the blood test. I go back in a couple weeks.
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My general physician switched me over to Crestor (rosuvastatin) today.
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