Starting Chemo in JAN 2007
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Rita, I am so sorry. You are always so sweet and dear on the boards; you need to let all of us nurture you now. Losing your mom is so hard. I am thinking of you ...
Melia -
Dear Rita, I am so sorry. Sending you a big {{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}.
Amera -
Oh Rita, I am so sorry for your loss. Know that we are all here for you. You will always feel good about spending the day with your mom yesterday. I lost my dad almost 10 years ago and still hold that time I spent with him in my heart.
Big hugs {{{{{{{{{{{{{Rita}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Lynn -
Rita, so terribly sorry about the loss of your mom. I can't even imagine. You have been such a big support and source of positive energy for all of us, so please know that we are all here for you.
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Rita, my heart goes out to you and to your family. I am so sorry about your loss.
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Rita, all my sympathy and prayers. You've been handed a very full plate right now but know we are all here to get you through it. Strange, but just the other day I was wondering how I would possibly manage if some big family calamity came along right now, and here you are modeling the courage and determination it takes to get through such a thing. Please use us to vent as needed! Blessings- Skye
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That vitamin D study...I read that too, and it said 1000-2000 mg a day is considered safe for people, and the survival rate difference was noticeable. I bet it is in the science section of breastcancer.org. The key with any supplements is to make sure your team knows about every one of them and someone is monitoring for interactions. My onc had no problem with anything but the red clover, and he is in a large oncology alliance that consult daily over everything. But if I had to cut back on everything but one (besides a multivitamin and calcium citrate, I didn't even mention those) I would keep the vitamin D since that has been proven.
Still laughing at the uniballer. And while I definitely feel less attractive these days, my husband keeps telling me it doesn't matter, and remember... we won't always be bald. In fact, I had this dream last night that my hair grew back overnight, and in just the right length and style, LOL. There is wish fulfillment for you. I do have to say my hub is extra-understanding because almost a year ago he underwent robotic arm surgery for prostate cancer, and I was his caretaker then, and we are still working on his therapy. How bout that, the two of us in one year, and both of us 55! We just never know what life has in store for us. But here is something interesting. Some years ago as a newspaper reporter, I had the chance to interview seven people over age 100 at one nursing home. To a person, they each insisted their longevity was due not to heredity or healthy habits, but to their ability to roll with the punches when bad things happened. I always try to remember that. So let us roll, sisters, roll! -
Ack! I just got back from church for the first time as a bald woman. I wore a stylish scarf and made an effort to look nice. Whoa! I got so many pity looks. I thought of you, Skye. Church is the worst place for that. The minister was wonderful and very supportive as were the several other women who identified themselves as survivors. Yipes though. Have I mentioned that I hate those looks? Sigh...
Oh, and my pastor has become something of a celebrity as she does a blog about style tips for the ministry. Today there was a camera crew from Nightline there to do a story about her. They said she would only be filming the first 4 rows. I was in row #2 in all my scarved glory. Today would've been a good day to wear the pelt on my head, dark sunglasses and maybe a fake nose. Sigh...
Amera -
Amera,
I'm sure you looked fabulous for your 15 minutes of fame!
Lynn -
I am so sorry for the loss of your Mother, Rita.
This has been the worst week for me since my a/c tx on Monday. Have had a sick headache and dizzy all week. My brain feels like mush and it gets worse when I try to watch tv or read. I have slept a lot and it helps some but wondering when this will end. It will be 1 week tomorrow. I hope the 3 & 4 tx will not be worse.Sorry to complain but thought maybe someone has had similar experience and what is the solution?---Nandy -
Hi Nandy,
Aren't you on taxotere? I don't have your chemical listed. I think you should drink LOTS of water to flush the chemicals out of your system (like 2 quarts per day). Another way to get them out is to go for walks to get your blood flowing and fresh oxygen into your lungs; research has shown that women on chemo who walk at least 3-4 hrs per week have substantially less fatique than women who don't. Just lying around itself can give you vertigo. Warm bubble baths can be very comforting too. I think the main thing is don't even try to pretend you feel normal, just give into it, rest & walk, don't push your brain. You will feel normal again. -
Amera, I give you credit for going! Today was going to be my first as a baldie too, I was going to wear my wig. But we got a foot of snow last night and living 8 miles in the country did not get dug out in time. I was secretly relieved not to have to face that. And my pastor is the very worst pity-looker. We should coin a word for that. Like buzzard, which is SO descriptive. I've had my share of those too, even from within my extended family. I just refer them to my Myspace blog, which is so strange that people who don't really know me then just leave me alone. And I try to remember that I can't control anyone else's reactions to me, just my own reactions to them. Occasionally, I even remember that in time to make some difference, LOL.- Skye
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I can't stand pity-lookers. In fact, I used to be one. If I saw someone in the grocery store wearing a scarf with no facial hair, I'd just think, oh that poor person is probably dying of cancer, better tiptoe away softly. Now I know better.
So my way of dealing with this now is to go around in disguise, so no one can tell. Actually--what does it matter, I seem to just go back and forth between the house and the hospital...so who cares?!!!
For the third Sunday in a row we were planning on church and something prevented us. This time it was very bad winter mix. Maybe next Sunday. Also was thrilled about dry pavement yesterday and was planning to run today, but now everything is covered with crusty snow. Uck!!
Decided to try wearing some hair today...the wig feels good and it's nice to look at. I found a second very lightweight one with enough hair in the back to make a little French twist, now I am beginning to resemble my old self. Hey girls, try on your wigs, they may have gotten more comfortable. You don't need to look like bald scarf ladies!!!
Boring gloomy, overcast day, but the days are getting longer and spring will be here in a matter of weeks...a great time to be done with chemo!!!!!
Mizsissy -
Mizzsissy, I have been drinking water but this feeling is like I have been looking crosseyed for 3 days. I have this awful eyestrain headache, like when you have a migraine.The only think that relieves it is sleep. I can only focus on the computer screen for a few minutes, can't read ot watch tv.I am on A/C. Hope the next tx does not do this.--Nandy
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Why not try a strong pain reliever like Darvocet? Do you have any leftover pain meds from your surgery? If not, maybe your oncology nurse can call something in for you.
I have had headaches too, but a strong painkiller--just once--often knocks it out for good. Tylenol sometimes just isn't enough.
I wouldn't even try to use your eyes as long as they feel that way..wait until you've kicked this...I hope your next infusion isn't like this too!!!! -
Hello Ladies,
I want to say hats off to each of you you're all doing so well! I have completed three chemo's thus far, with nine left! ACT got to love it! Unfortunatly I've been fighting some type of infection and went in Friday morning to Onc and they had to pump me with Liquids, antibiodics and also with steroids. I was having a hard time since Chemo on Tuesday keeping anything down. Other then this week,things were going so well.
Been in bed most of the day today and don't feel like doing much! My thoughts are with all of you sisters, hang in there and god bless.
Carol -
Nandy, I thought about what you said about having a problem with your eyes focusing and I thought it would be a good idea to call your oncology nurse. Don't mean to scare you, but this may be a serious side of the chemo (never heard of it), but it is better to be safe than sorry. I hope the chemo is not affecting your eyes in some way...in any case, if this continues they may want to change your regimen. There are alternatives to AC...for instance I'm taking TC (taxotere+cytoxan), which is just as effective but might not affect you so adversely.
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I have a word for how people look at us...it's called "Turtle Faces".
Makes you smirk a bit, they might be pitying me, but I'm laughing back at them.
Nandy, I agree with Mizsissy, talk to your onc, sounds like your onc should be able to give you something for that.
Carol, my #3 Chemo was the toughest on me too. Get lots of rest.
Took my whole family for a nice brunch today, as it was my hubby's birthday on Friday. Very nice.
Big Hugs to everyone. Enjoy the Oscars tonite, I hope Al Gore wins for his documentary on Global Warming, it was really good.
Joni
ps: Rita, my thoughts are with you today, prayers coming your way. -
Joni, "turtle faces" is very good. Now I will think of that each time whether I try to or not, and yes, I'll be smiling. Thanks! - Skye
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Hi all,
Nandy, I also think you should call the oncologist and let them know how you feel. They might suggest something to help you. You shouldn't be in such discomfort. I was not feeling good for a whole week this time. I had A/C on Thursday and finally felt better on Friday. So there is hope.
Amera, When is Nightline scheduled to be on? We will sure to look for you. Lynn's right! Why not enjoy your 15 minutes of fame.
I have a few questions. I had a neulasta shot last Friday and I thought I escaped the bone pain. But no--all of a sudden on Friday afternoon ( a week later), I had this excruciating pain run down my spine. I didn't know what hit me. I took a vicodin and it subsided quite a bit. I kept taking it every 4 hours until the middle of the night, and I woke up with no more pain and haven't had any since. Has anybody who had a neulasta shot experienced pain as far away as a whole week?
Also, I have had a fever the past two nights. On Friday night it was around 100, and last night it crept up to 100.8. The last thing I wanted to do was sit in the ER late at night. I just went to bed. Both nights I sweated a lot and woke up with no fever. I had no fever either day, but around 6:00 tonight I once again had 100 degree fever. I took a couple of tylenol and hope it goes away. I do not want to go to the ER on the weekend. I know I should call, but I am afraid they will tell me to come in. I just want to wait until tomorrow when the oncology department is open. Has anyone run a low grade fever and just ignored it? I know 100.8 is not low grade, but it it only .3 degrees above the recommended "phone call". I feel fine. I even walked both Saturday and Sunday. I have an appetite, and I really do feel good.I need some advice. Am I doing the right thing by just waiting until tomorrow when I can speak to the oncologist?
Viddie -
Viddie, sorry you are not feeling well. About the 100.8, I don't know. I probably would do the same thing if it stayed that low. Not that that's what you should do, but I've had it with being told it's nothing. I would just keep taking your temp. However, I was told not to take anything for a fever because it can disguise the infection or something or other. I guess it would prevent it from going up and then you wouldn't know if it were serious.
I'm not sure when the Nightline thing will be on. I'll let you know but I doubt I'll make it on. They had all kinds of rules seeing that it was in a church. No kids in the picture, only the first few rows etc. I was standing with my kids but the camera was right on my face for a while, so who knows.
And I loooove "turtle face. " That's perfect. And I'm sure Mizsissy, that I was a turtle face at one point as well. I just think it makes everyone so uncomfortable they don't know what else to do.
I swear if it weren't for the hair loss, we could deal with this any way we wanted. This way we become CANCER girls like it or not. Just when we are getting comfortable with the diagnosis, we have to deal all over again with the looks. They always make me feel awful--like, hey, maybe this is a bigger deal than I think it is. Maybe I am going to die. Maybe I should start taking this a lot more seriously. And this from strangers too. Yeesh! So turtle faces it is. Bring it on :9
Amera -
Dear Rita,
I am so sorry about the loss of your mom. Our thoughts and prayers are with you. I haven't been on the computer because of a sinus infection, but I feel better now.
I love the name turtle faces, I too was probably one.
Viddie,
I hope you feel better. I only had slight pain from the Neulasta, but others have had it bad for weeks.
Take care everyone,
ilene -
Amera...I am sure you looked great! Don't fret it.
Viddie...I think that you would probably be fine to wait until morning if you feel ok. If you take a turn for the worse during the night definately go! In my opinion, the stress of the ER would probably negate any protection you might get from being cautious. I think you should call your onc first thing, though.
As for me, it was a rather average, rather exhausting weekend. We ran all over delivering kids to parties and friends houses and so on. Despite that, or maybe because of it, I feel much better today...I think that I have kicked the infection, and now just need to clear out the residual congestion. YAY! I would think that everything is go for me to go in for my "toxic kool aid" on Wed (BTW, someone on the list coined that one...I do not remember who, but I LOVE IT).
My buzzard aunt called me today (speak of the devil, I guess) and I was treated to an hour long lecture on the virtues of drinking tea with honey (no, no dear...green tea just will not do....it has to be an oolong, or maybe an earl grey). blech. "we are so proud of how you are handling this" she tells me. What a meaningless platitude! I mean how ELSE do you handle this? I think that I prefer turtle faces to buzzards. At least I can ignore the turtle faces. After all, if I do not think I need to be pitied, what do I care if someone else..who I do not even know....is pitiying me behind my back. I think that I feel pretty good, and I look ok (for the first time in my life I have to wear cosmetics...or I look like a ghost)...so I just hold my head high and go on through my day. As someone who regularly appears in public I can tell you all that the self concious feeling (regarding the scarves/wigs etc) does go away after a while. I for one refuse to let turtle faces keep me trapped inside my house! -
Viddie:
I had fevers this chemo again...my bad days are between 8 & 12 days after chemo, I always get a spike in my temperature.
I went to the hospital on Chemo #1 when it happened, as I'm suppose to go in for anything over 38.0 C, and mine was 38.9. Didn't get a fever with Chemo #2, but I did this time. I didn't go to the hospital, as my doctor told me to think how I felt. It might be just a spike from the chemo. Don't let it get too high, without doing something, but I think if you felt good, you did the right thing.
Make sure you let you onco know...he might put you on a low dose preventative antibiotic, to make sure the fever is not related to any infection.
Glad to hear your feeling better Rebecca. Amera, can you send me your autograph!!!
Cheers...all...Joni -
Rita: My Prayers are with you for the loss of your Mom. My Mom is 92 and in a Nursing Home. It can be tough. In reference to what you said about God never gives us more than we can handle, someone said that it is suffering that gives meaning to our lives and makes us realize what is important and then brings us closer to God. We girls are always here for you. Love, Lucy
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Amera...I didn't realize you were going to be on NATIONAL TV with your lovely bald scarf head...what an opportunity!!! Did I miss this!!!??
BTW, I think your buzzard-faced aunt means well, in her bungling awkward way I believe in the powers of tea too. I understand how annoying those *are you feeling better* calls are...I tell them I was never *sick*!!! -
Is it possible that the fever spikes are related to the bone marrow activity during the nadir? I think one of the onc nurses mentioned that, but I was in a bit of a fog. I get feeling clammy and hot off and on during those days.
When I go out, I wear my wig - but I'm sure to those who know me it screams "cancer" just as loud. Other's reactions have been a learning experience. I think the "you're doing so well" sometimes means - don't tell me how bad you feel! People don't know what to say.
Glad everyone is feeling relatively well. I'm in the "good" week now - but dreading the next kool-aid infusion! -
I am feeling a little better this morning. The headache is gone but my eyes are still having a hard time focusing on the screen and keyboard. I go in today for bloodwork, so will discuss these side effects with the nurse.
Mizzsissy, I also had a wild dream over the weekend. I dreamt that during the night my hair grew out so much it came through my sleepcap and I could not get the cap off. That would be a nice problem to deal with ??
I appreciate all the concern everyone has for our side effects. What would we do without this site to go to for support ??---Nandy -
Hi Everyone,
Rita, I am so sorry about your Mom. It takes so much strength to endure a lose like this and that makes it even tougher. I cried everyday for months after my Mom died. You have my prayers.
Rebecca - shark cartiledge is just glucosamine Chondroitin which is recommended to chemo patients for joint pain. Herceptin causes joint pain along with all the white blood cell booster shots - neulasta and neupogen.
Dar1 - red wine does have a SERM in it. That is Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator. Its called zeralanone and is one of the reasons red wine is generally considered good for you. There are other plant estrogens (Soy) that also act at ER receptors.
Nandy, I also had focus problems during the first 2 AC treatments. I even thought I needed new glasses. I have a friend who had serious vision problems with Taxol. Im all for calling the nurses if you are concerned. Why make yourself more stressed.
Amera - I could get rich if I had a $ for every pity looks. That is one of my main reasons for choosing the wig some days. I don't think people inspect close enough to even notice its a wig. You were really brave to go to church and sit up front. I think you are stronger than you think.
Question: Im having lots of problems with diarrhea and cramping. Which has stopped me from leaving the house more than once. Anyone taking anything or have any suggestions. Im wondering if I've developed lactose intolerance.
Vicky
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