Afinitor and Aromasin info

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MyAngelWife
MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14

I am here for my wife, who is too distraught to be here herself. She is my absolute angel and she has Metastatic Breast Cancer which is now in her liver, 5 vertebrae, sacrum, both hips, left arm, left and right femur, posterior ribs, and both sides of her skull.

We have tried Adriamyacin, Chtoxin, Taxol, Halaven, Xeloda, Lynparza, Ibrance and I think I forgot a few others. We are both very scared about tomorrow and wondering how many more drugs are left to try.

Tomorrow we start Afinitor and Aromasin; she is currently taking Arimidex and getting Zometa infusions once a month.

Can anyone give me any insight into Afinitor as far as side effects to watch out for? We have a teach tomorrow but they rattle through the info so quick, I want I get a head start.

Thank you for your time

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  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited June 2019

    I jus started Afinitor/Aromasin a couple of weeks ago. I was worried about all the side effects that I've read about, but so far, it has been pretty easy. My onc started me on the 5mg dose because I'm small and he wanted to see how I tolerated that dose before moving me up. I have a few mouth sores, but they aren't nearly as bad as when I was on Doxil. I rinse a few times a day with a non-alcohol mouthwash, and that seems to help. I also have a Lidocane prescription mouthwash to use if I need it.

    I do have low energy, but that has been for awhile, and no worse than before the new drugs. Good luck- the important thing is, will it work? If so, I'd be happy to stay on it as long as I get results.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited June 2019

    Welcome, MyAngelWife-

    We're glad you've joined us here, and hope both you and your wife find this to be a supportive place. We know this is a difficult time, but we hope that the beginning of her treatment tomorrow brings some good news and a bit more hope for the two of you. Please keep us posted on how she's doing, we're all here with you.

    The Mods

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    sandilee,


    Thank you for your response. We had the chemo teach today and I am praying for no mouth sores and little if any side effects. My wife has the PALB2 mutation, which makes everything a little more challenging.

    It just breaks my heart because I want to fix everything for her. Thanks again

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    Thank you for allowing me to join and thank you for your very kind welcome. Today was a very emotional day; I hope that you had a good day

  • masonsmawmaw
    masonsmawmaw Member Posts: 134
    edited June 2019

    I started out on 10mg of Affinitor, but the SE were just to much to bear. After 8 months, I am now on a 5mg dose still trying to rein in some of the bothersome SE. Be aware, most patients tend to experience weight loss....my loss of appetite started almost immediately and I'm down 30 pounds (stabilized at 122 pounds). Mouth sores were also horrible but have disappeared over time and not recurred. Fatigue, shortness of breath and body aches round out my list of complaints, although I can't say for sure that these are solely related to the affinitor. Pet scan tomorrow, cautiously optimistic, but I really am expecting progression just due to some strange symptoms that I've started having. I think my onc expects the same. Will be wonderful if we are proven wrong!

    Wishing the best to all of you on this journey!!

    Angie


  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    Angie,

    Thank you for your response. I am very worried about the side effects; my wife started on 10mg but her platelets and white blood cell count was very low to start with.

    Were the side effects that were unbearable mainly the pain and mouth sores? We have done 10 different chemos and no mouth sores yet, so hopefully she won’t get them.

    I hope that you and your oncologist are both wrong; please let me know how your PET scan goea

  • masonsmawmaw
    masonsmawmaw Member Posts: 134
    edited June 2019

    Myangelwife- I would say that the most unbearable se were the mouth sores and the loss of appetite. I should also mention that I have type 2 diabetes and as virtually promised, my blood sugars have soared on the drug....so much so that I have had to start on insulin. The pain has more in less set in within the past few months; legs, feet, back, ribs. Again, I'm not sure if Affinitor or cancer related. Some more new symptoms are starting to come up now so we well see what the PET shows. I get results on Monday afternoon and will post here as soon as I can.

    If your wife starts to get even a much as a tingle in her mouth, I would request a dose reduction immediately before the sores get too bad.

    Wishing you all the best!

    Angie

  • jobur
    jobur Member Posts: 726
    edited June 2019

    Angie, Good to see your user name pop up again, I have been wondering how you are. Sorry to hear your se's on this tx have continued to be so crappy. Wishing you good luck tomorrow and keeping you in my thoughts.

    AngelWife, It so wonderful of you to join us on behalf of your wife. My se's have not been too bad on this tx, mainly body aches (from the Aromisin) and weird little rashes from the Afinitor. I never used the mouthwash and didn't get the horrible mouth sores Angie had. Fatigue seems to be a given with all of these meds. Has your wife ever had Faslodex? It is a shot (actually 2 shots) usually given in the butt or hip and is a little different than the AI drugs. I always sing it's praises as I had several years with no evidence of disease while on Fas with Ibrance. I see your wife has already had Ibrance, but there are several other new drugs that can also be used in combination with Fas. Wishing you and your Angel a turn for the better with a tx that works!

    Hi Sandilee! I nearly missed your post, but want to wish you good luck with A/A. That's quite a list of txs you have there! Hope this one works well for you.

    Here is the A/A thread started way back in 2013 when it was a new combo

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topics/...


  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    Thank you Angie and I am hoping the best for your PET scan results. I’m sorry the side effects were so rough for you. So far my wife has only had fatigue and headaches

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    Hi jobur,

    My wife has had Faslodex; she just finished Ibrance with faslodex and was on them since last October, until they scans showed more progression in the liver a few weeks ago. My wife was on Arimidex for 8 years and she just switched to Aromasin. She also has the PALB2 mutation as does just about everyone in her family. Her Mom and sister had breast cancer and her Mom passed away 3 years ago from Metastatic Pancreatic Cancer. The first 2 days the side effects were bad and then miraculously the third day everything got better

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited June 2019

    Hi MyAngelWife, I was on A/A for three months. Actually along with Ibrance which probably caused everything to be amplified.

    The only actual SE I remember was mouth sores. They'd come and go. I wasn't really tired.

    BUT. Afinitor is known for causing weird inflammatory problems. All of a sudden I got short of breath climbing stairs. Then I realized I was getting a fever at 5:00pm every day.

    You know how this goes I suspect: "Hi, I've been having fevers of 102 that go away with Advil". "Get down here right now". I arrive at the cancer center. "Oh, and I'm short of breath going up the stairs". "How long has this been going on?" "About a week". "WHAAAATTT??!!???" Sometimes nurses have no sense of humor.

    It was pneumonitis -- lung inflammation. Took 2 weeks and many steroids to cool down the lungs.

    So watch out for the weird stuff. I hope A/A works for your wife. I wasn't on it long enough to find out if it worked for me.

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited June 2019

    Please make sure your wife is given a prescription for the alcohol-free dexamethasone mouthwash. This should be standard of care. Cf SWISH Trial.

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited June 2019

    Halaven worked amazingly for my wife for about 18 months. I’m shocked that they let you do Ibrance, Afinitor and Aromasin; that is very strange. Ibrance and Affinitoe are very strong, each by themselves. Are you on Halaven now?

    Have a good day.

    Blake

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited June 2019

    It was a single center dose-finding clinical trial. Since Ibrance boosts the AIs and Faslodex they wanted to know if it would boost A/A. Or really, could people actually take all three?

    And by the time I came into it they were up to 150 Ibrance plus 5 of Afinitor (so not full dose). Except for the pneumonitits it wasn't horrible. I did have trouble keeping my neutrophil levels up. I had to run a few stairs to stay in the trial as long as I did.

    But yes, after 14 months on Xeloda and a flirtation with Verzeino/Faslodex I'm on Halaven. Have been for exactly 6 months. TMs are down, scans are weird but we think it's working.

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2019

    myangelwife- I started AA in March after failing I/F. I used the mouth wash four times per day for the first 2 months as instructed. I didn’t get any mouthsores. I tapered off over a week and no mouth sores. If my tongue feels or looks a little raw I use baking soda mouth rinses now. I had fatigue and a few mild weird rashes the first month. The fatigue is mild now, my anemia is better than when I was on Ibrance. My first PET will be in a few weeks. TMs have gone down.

    This drug does seem to cause weight loss in diabetics per this thread. I have not had any weight loss and blood sugar is fine so far. Cholesterol went up a little however

    Good luck!


  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2019

    Thank you NKB and everyone. Has anyone had a problem with insurance not wanting to pay for the Afinitor? We see the doctor Tuesday and side effects have been minimal so far.

    Thank you,

    Blake

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited July 2019

    No but I'm not a typical case. I live in Massachusetts where there are all sorts of laws about what must be covered, and I have the very QUEEN of employer health plans.

    Glad the SEs have been minimal. May they continue to be that way.

  • masonsmawmaw
    masonsmawmaw Member Posts: 134
    edited July 2019

    Latest scan results:

    1. Postoperative changes in the inferior floor of the left maxillary sinus
    demonstrate no abnormal FDG uptake.
    2. Thick-walled loops of small bowel are concerning for enteritis which
    may be infectious, inflammatory, or ischemic.
    3. Small bilateral pleural effusions are slightly increased from prior.
    4. New small volume ascites.
    5. Anasarca.

    All in all, not too bad, but the new "symptoms" I have been experiencing are related to my stomach and bowels so not sure what is going on there. Onc took me off A/A for 2 weeks to see if abdominal bloating, ascites, tenderness, etc., would improve, but thus far, no change.

    Hope everyone is doing okay!

    Angie

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2019

    masons mama- yay! Love good news. I drink siggi probiotics every morning- think it helps thestomach?

    I have good news also! My PET from yesterday basically said everything is stable, improved or resolved! TMs down by 40% since started AA 4 months ago.

    I think a little champagne in my future!

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2019

    Nkb,

    Great news on the PET scan; thank God no mouth sores here. The only side effects have been fatigue, some weird rashes, and a “full” feeling in the stomach.

    Has anyone had tumor markers go UP initially and then go back down? Only 2 weeks in and tumor markers have gone up significantly and liver enzymes are up also.

    Thank you for your time.

    Blake

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2019

    myangelwife- I have heard of TMs going up early in treatment with the Ibrance- supposedly due to cancer dying. Mine have always gone down early in treatment- then they bounce around a lot and when the Ibrance stopped working they steadily went up. They really increased between treatments. I have fatigue and weird rashes too. No fullness, no weight loss, blood sugar is normal, cholesterol did go up a bit, liver function and all labs normal except slightly anemic. Hopefully she will respond- some people need to decrease the dose also. But, it is so good that no mouth sores- that is what made this drug intolerable before the mouthwash solution.

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2019

    Thank you for your response. No mouth sores so far, so that is great. I hope that it continues to work for you and that we can figure out what these weird side effects are.


    Thanks again,

    Blake

  • MyAngelWife
    MyAngelWife Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2019

    Has anyone been on Afinitor and had the side effect of feeling like food is stuck in your chest when lying down? This has been going on for a bout a week.


    Thank you

  • jobur
    jobur Member Posts: 726
    edited July 2019

    Angie, Happy to hear your decent scan results! Hope they can figure out what is going on with the swelling and GI irritation. That sounds both concerning and uncomfortable! It seems like this can be a tough combo for diabetics. Wishing you healing and more good news.

    Nkb, What a dramatic response for you after only 4 months! And you seem to be having minimal se's too. So happy for you. My mo said when I started A/A that it doesn't work for everyone, but for those who respond it works very well. Guess that would be you. Hope you enjoyed that champagne.

    Sandilee, How are you doing? Hope you too get great results.

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited September 2019

    jobur- how are you doing? I am still fine. Of course every month I do the blood work and then find out if I am fine for another month. Month to month. I just got back from a trip that went well also. I am trying to live life as normally as posible for now.

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