Alisertib with Fulvestrant

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  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited June 2019

    Cure-ious  Thank you so much for the asprin/NSAIDS information.  Would Tylenol help.  I try not to take NSAIDS with the liver involvement. 

    M3llon My hair fell out within 3 weeks.  It is coming back in.  Not as much as I had before but enough if it keeps up that I wouldn't need a wig.  I have suffered nausea and been sick on numerous occasions.  Also intermittent diarrhea.  I am due for scans June 19th and will get results June 21.  I have had scans 2 months ago and was stable and I wasn't even on a full dose I had to stop drug and then dose reduce so I am hopeful.      

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2019

    Anne45, good to know that this is working for you and that your hair is growing back. Sometimes I struggle to keep my eye on the prize and your post helps with that.

    My neutrophils were also low, so my onc delayed the start of my second cycle and lowered the dose. My first scans are in July.

    Heartburn, intermittent diarrhea, chemo brain, fatigued, and declining vision are my SEs. It reminds me a lot of the first round of chemo.

    Cure-ious, I asked my onc about mutations but I don’t have any of note. If I didn’t have chemo brain I might have remembered to ask about the aspirin/NSAIDS.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited July 2019

    Just had scans and I am stable. Tumor markers have dropped a little as well

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2019

    anne45- fantastic news!

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2019

    Great news anne45!

  • ann273
    ann273 Member Posts: 209
    edited July 2019

    Great news Anne, thanks for checking back in! Also glad to hear your hair is growing back in! It may be weird to focus on vanity in our situation but I'm always happy to hear about drugs that dont take our hair. I hope its easy on the eyebrows and lashes, that always made me look like I was sick.

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited July 2019

    the hair thing is really much more than vanity. It is privacy and the ability to wander in life without people knowing you are sick.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited July 2019

    It has taken half my eye brow. I have the part closest to my nose and then where the pupil to the corner is very very thin. I do have eye lashes. I still wear a wig because I feel it’s still to thin.

  • ann273
    ann273 Member Posts: 209
    edited July 2019

    Nkb, I totally agree. I still work full time and want to blend in as much as possible. The hair thing has such a psychological effect on me :(

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2019

    Scan results from first scan since I started this trial are in. My onc is pleased. There is one spot that increased in size, but the big one is smaller, liver is less enlarged and liver function is good.

    My neutrophils are still taking a hit. I hope I can develop a tolerance.

    The hair that I didn't lose is starting to grow. I still look like an old man, but it's promising. My eyebrows thinned. I've been using eyebrow growth serum and it seems to help.

    Turns out I'm a whisper away from triple negative: 10% ER, 0% PR, 10% HER-2. Or at least what feels like a whisper to me.I need to double check the HER-2 number


  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited July 2019

    M3llon that’s great news you are stable! This makes me happy. What kind of growth serum do you use for the eyebrow? When my hair was falling out I had my husband use our clippers on #2 to stop the hair from falling in what ever I was cooking. I ended up looking the baby doll from Toy Story with the spiked hair so I had it all taken off. I still laugh about it now. I hate wearing the wig in this hot and humid weather. My head gets so sweaty. I am still getting nauseous. I have found if I break a tiny piece of raw ginger off and keep it in my mouth it helps more than any pills I have tried. I just wish there was a pattern to when it happens it seems so random

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited July 2019

    Anne45, I use something called neubrow. It's about $75, but you can find it cheaper on Amazon.

    My neutrophils are all over the place. Not sure if I will be able to stay in the trial.

    Good tip on the ginger. I also have random waves of nausea. Will try it.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited August 2019

    Thank you for neubrow. I will look for it.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited August 2019

    Hi All I just and scans and all is stable. Good news for sure 😀

  • Cure-ious
    Cure-ious Member Posts: 2,626
    edited August 2019

    Anne-congrats on ten years, amazing!!!!

    Katelyn Ohashi GIF

  • Cure-ious
    Cure-ious Member Posts: 2,626
    edited August 2019

    An interesting paper came out last month in Cancer Research:

    "Aurora A inhibition eliminates myeloid cell-mediated Immunosuppression and enhances the efficacy of anti-PDL1 therapy in Breast Cancer"

    Abstract: Here, we demonstrated that inhibition of Aurora A directly reshaped the immune microenvironment through removal of tumor-promoting myeloid cells and enrichment of anticancer T lymphocytes, which established a tumor-suppressive microenvironment and significantly contributed to the regression of murine mammary tumors. Mechanistically, alisertib treatment triggered apoptosis in myeloid-derived suppressor cells (MDSC) and macrophages, resulting in their elimination from tumors. Furthermore, alisertib treatment disrupted the immunosuppressive functions of MDSC by inhibiting Stat3-mediated ROS production. These alterations led to significant increases of active CD8+ and CD4+ T lymphocytes, which efficiently inhibited the proliferation of tumor cells. Intriguingly, alisertib combined with PD-L1 blockade showed synergistic efficacy in the treatment of mammary tumors. These results detail the effects of Aurora A inhibition on the immune microenvironment and provide a novel chemo-immunotherapy strategy for advanced breast cancers.

    Significance: These findings show that inhibition of Aurora A facilitates an anticancer immune microenvironment, which can suppress tumor progression and enhance anti–PD-L1 therapy in breast cancer.

    In short, this paper shows that Alisertib is enhancing the ability of the immune system to infiltrate and destroy the cancer, and it enhances the response of solid tumors to immunotherapy (I-O). This might explain why some people are getting really long (2-3 years) responses on this drug, and would predict that some scans may improve the longer someone is on the drug.

    Previous work from UCSF showed that Alisertib also strongly synergizes with Alpelisib (PI3K inhibitor). Hopefully Alisertib is a tolerable drug and can be used in combination with I-O or Alpelisib for future clinical trials.



  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited August 2019

    Thank you Cure-ious this is great news. I sure hope I have good luck on this and can go for the 2 years plus!

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2019

    Anne45, congrats on the scan results! I had scans this week and the cancer is stable. My ANC is getting crushed so I’m on Zarxio twice a week now.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited September 2019

    M3llon congrats on being stable too! How are you feeling on zarxio? Is it doing it’s job for you? I am feeling incredibly tired but have just had my father-in-law (age 93) move in with us. It’s a big change but I am happy to have him

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2019

    Zarxio has not been bad: very slight chest and joint pain. I take a Claritin the day of the shot. I’m getting it twice a week. My oncologist lowered the alisertib dose to 30 mg, but told me it would still be effective.

    I get fatigued if I over do it, but other than that I feel pretty good.

    Hair is slowly, but surely growing back.

    Funny how 93 sounds like a spring chicken to me now.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited September 2019

    I am sorry for the joint pain and chest pain. Are you using anything for the joint pain? I was on Whole Foods and I noticed they now have CBD cream for aches and pains. I was tempted to purchase some for my knees. I would have to get dr approval first but I am thinking about it. I am excited about your hair coming in. Mine is very very sparse. I have noticed my 3 days on are Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Those days are usually ok. Monday seems ok too but Monday's night I find I am so nauseous I usually get sick and have a bad bout of diarrhea. It is so upsetting. The next day I am just too exhausted. This seems to be the cycle I have just started noticing the pattern. Meanwhile my father-in-law is running to the store for me an is out with his friends! He is amazing.

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited September 2019

    Anne45. Sorry to hear about your Monday nights. I’m in the meds Wednesday through Friday. Sunday is usually my nausea day. I don’t have diarrhea on the regular anymore, but I have to think about what I eat. Veggie burgers and shiitake mushrooms are not my friends.

    Are you still on the full dose? They’ve reduced my dose to only 6 pills a day and I had to skip the first week of this cycle because my ANC was too low. I worry that I’m progressing because I’m not getting enough medicine.

    I just started reading Anti-Cancer. The author is dead and the research is old, but it is still giving me a good perspective - my goal is to be on the long tail of the bellcurve, if that makes sense.

    Hope you are too. :)

    P.S.

    Sounds like your father-in-law is doing old age right!

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2019

    Bumped off the trial. This week’s scans showed progression. Moving on to Xeloda and possible radiation radioemobilzation. On to the next chapter.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited December 2019

    M3llon, I am so sorry you are kicked off and have progression. It’s a very scary place to be. My scans read weird.....my tumors (5) shift around, some get bigger and some get smaller but for now they always even out to about the same number. This constant flux gives me no peace . I have scans at the end of January and I am already worried. I will keep Xeloda in mind as I haven’t had that drug yet. This gives me peace to have something in mind to move to. I do an anti cancer diet. I feel it helps. I did try the CBC cream from Whole Foods and I feel it helps but I just ran out and need to get more. I am wishing you great results with xeloda or the radioembolization, please keep us posted. Love and hugs to you

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2020

    Anne45 That is exactly how my scans are. Very inconclusive. The shape of my liver has changed quite a bit as well: much less inflammation. However, I guess the progression, even though mild, was enough to get me bumped. New year, new treatment.

    Have you tried the embolization? I'm very curious about it.

    I'll update you on the xeloda. Hoping it will reduce the cancer and not just keep it in check.

    Fingers and toes crossed for your scans. We are all in this together

    Love to you. M.E

  • Vilma65
    Vilma65 Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2020

    Hi, If i have the PIK3ca mutation I will join this trial as well. Will provably have some answers by mid january

  • M3llon
    M3llon Member Posts: 26
    edited January 2020

    @Vilma65 Once I got past the first few months, I found the side effects manageable. Your hair will fall out at first, but it grows back. So weird.

    If your anc levels give you trouble, ask about getting neupogen shots. I had to get one every week, but it kept my count up so I could stay on the trial.

  • Vilma65
    Vilma65 Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2020

    Thank you M3llon, I hate to lose my hair again and worried about the other side effects. Hearing your experience helps.

  • Anne45
    Anne45 Member Posts: 1,037
    edited January 2020

    M3llon I have not tried the embolization. It sounds very cutting edge and I would be up for trying it. I am hoping it blasts the tumors right out of there. When will they let you know which plan is best for you? I have my wishes for you for the best plan.

    Vilma65, the same for me with hair loss. I did have to have my dosage reduced once but then am able to maintain that dosage. You will find a pattern as to how if affects you. And then it’s manageable. Love and hugs to you M3llon and Vilma6

  • Vilma65
    Vilma65 Member Posts: 111
    edited January 2020

    Hi Ann, how long have you been in this treatment? What are the results so far?

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