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edited June 2019 in Just Diagnosed

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  • ATLWife
    ATLWife Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2019

    Hi,

    I was/am a smoker. For anyone who was/is a smoker at the time of diagnosis, how did you deal with the "I told you so", "You knew this could happen"?


    I'm struggling with the feeling that I did this to myself.


    Any insight?

  • edj3
    edj3 Member Posts: 2,076
    edited June 2019

    How does that help you, to beat yourself up right now? I mean, you might as well scrutinize every less than perfect bit of food you ever ate, every glass of wine you ever drank, the work outs you skipped--the list goes on and on.

    Be your best friend right now. What would you tell your best friend if she were talking like this? Guessing, since you're in the South, you might say something like "bless your heart, you stop that now" maybe.

  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited June 2019

    I was a former smoker. I drink wine and alcohol also causes us to blame ourselves. Unfortunately, noone "knows" it will happen. 21st century and we are just learning new things about genetics, epigenetics and cancers.

    My dad was a smoker since he was in his teens; finally quit in his late 60s. LIved to 87-1/2 and never had cancer. Does that mean smoking doesn't cause lung cancer? No. It means he had better genes than he passed on to me, sadly.

    And if you want to go to the dark side, imagine your best friend doing something that she "knew" would cause her a bad outcome...would you go on a rant with her and blame her? No, you pick up the pieces where they are and move forward to get quality of life. Hopefully a long life.


  • Trishyla
    Trishyla Member Posts: 1,005
    edited June 2019

    As a former smoker myself, I felt the same way. Maybe I brought this on myself. Though I really expected to get lung cancer, not breast cancer. When I spoke to my oncology surgeon about it, she actually laughed. Then she told me that breast cancer is one of the few cancers that actually has NO correlation to smoking. Lung, colon, intestinal and many others do. But not breast cancer. And she told me that the chemo that I had for my breast cancer would have killed any nascent lung or colon cancer cells as well.

    So, don't beat yourself up. Try to quit if you can. Sooner rather than later is better I did manage to finally quit (after 40 years of trying) after my diagnosis. Couldn't stand the thought of smoking at the same time as I was getting chemo. Just felt too surreal.

    There's a great quiting smoking thread. Helps to have support.

    Best wishes.

    Trish

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited June 2019

    My breast surgeon told me smoking had nothing to do with breast cancer. She said it's one of the cancers with no connection to it. Now my kidney cancer, possibly, but my non-smoking father also had that. The blame game is useless and you'll just make yourself crazy for no reason.

  • Krose53
    Krose53 Member Posts: 148
    edited June 2019

    I have never smoked, never drank alcohol, had my kids young, breast feed 9 years total and no family history of breast cancer and I got breast cancer Who knows what will cause our own breast cancer. I'm trying to change my diet to no sugar, vegan, and exercise and not being very successful at all. Oh well, I'll do better but it all seems like a crap shoot to me.

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited June 2019

    I was a non smoker and non drinker normal bmi when I was diagnosed. I don't think any one of us did something to cause our breast cancer. It is an excuse for people who think they can control whether they get it or not.

    Of course it is always good to take care of yourself for good health, but good health doesn't mean you won't get cancer.

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited June 2019

    hello sweetie I too was a smoker at diagnosis when got the news threw pack down stomped on them. I know of women who never smoked that was diagnosed. But please let me Inspire you with this. I am this yr a 25 yr Survivor diagnosed while preparing for my 2nd wedding. But had my cry and decided to fight with Positive thinking and Lots of HOPE. msphil idc stage2 0/3 nodes 3 3mo chemo before and after Lmast got married the 7wks rads and 5yrs on Tamoxifen..

  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited June 2019

    Please don’t feel too bad about it. While we all know smoking isn’t a healthy option, it is not a direct cause/effect link like with lung cancer. In fact, in my own research, I’ve found the relative risk very low as a factor. Here’s some info from the CDC and the screenshot below is from a nih article (Sorry the text isn’t more clear). Honestly, most of them are beyond our control, this is the hand we were dealt.

    https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/breast/basic_info/risk_factors.him

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  • Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Member Posts: 609
    edited June 2019

    I was a smoker and I felt guilty too, but there are so many things that it supposes to cause cancer that nobody can be safe, so I just stopped asking. It is a waste of energy


  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited June 2019

    I smoked at the time of DX too. I thought it was a contributor too but like others have said it wasn’t why I got BC. My sister never smoked and drank very little and she got BC too. Our common denominator is our mother who had BC although statistics say otherwise. 70% of BC cases are not genetically connected. Go figure.

    I also echo what others have said about beating yourself over it when the fact of the matter is we just all drew the unlucky card.

    Of course try and live healthy just because. I believe in everything in moderation. I’m not abstaining from sugar or a beer every now and then. Doctors are a actually at a loss to explain why certain women get BC and others do not. I didn’t fit their so called criteria except family history.

    Btw I’m 8 years out this August. My sister has not been so fortunate. She has had a recurrence 4 years after she was DX. She was a year behind me being DX. Mine was IDC, her’s is ILC. I had a lumpectomy and radiation. She had a MX and took Arimidex. I had a low Oncotype score. Her’s was intermediate. You just never know. My sister is going through 4 rounds of chemo.

    BC is such an insidious disease but they are making progress in research and treatments.

    So hang in there, ditch the blame game and move on. You can do it. We are all proof of that.

    Diane

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