Liver mets...now bone too...feeling very scared

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NicoleRod
NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906

So yesterday I went to get the results of the MRI of my right hip. Turns out they only saw "degeneration" in the right (I still think its cancer because it feels like the left) but the Left they found 2 mets. She said they are very tiny 1/2 and 1cm or is it mm??>> not sure she just said they are so tiny that, that is probably why the CT Bone scan I had last month in California probably didn't pick it up. They are located 1 in the hip and one in (can't remember the name) but its right near the left tailbone (not the coccyx) and what is also scary is that I have had that pain (in what I thought was my very very lower back, left) for over a YEAR!!! I even went to an orthopedic surgeon over a year ago for it he gave me a steroid pack for it. So I have 3 in the liver 2.0, 1.5 and 1.0.

I now need a PET scan. I am so scared of it. Scared they will find more and now of course the pain I been having for months in the left knee is probably mets. :( She did say that my treatment plan will not change. She also said they are tiny if they keep causing me pain because I have pain there that they can eventually after 3 months on the meds, radiate those areas.

So I am now on Lupron, Faslodex, Letrozole (yes she is doing that with the faslodex), Ibrance (just started today) and now Xgiva (I will get the first shot of that on my next appointment).

She looked at my Foundation One results and said it showed that my cancer should respond very well to Ibrance. She also said she got the tumor markers test back and they were all within normal range.(even though I have heard people say tumor markers are unreliable...) but whatever I need any "good" news I can get.

Seeing my husbands face yesterday...God PLEASE HELP ME...he is so strong and always so positive and he just looked depleted my heart is breaking for him and yes, for myself. I know some people may not like what I am going to say but I just don't want to die in 2 or 5 years!!! I feel like "I cannot believe I may not even live to 5 years?!?!?!?!?!?! WTHELL!!!!!!! How can this be? Im sorry for sounding so horrible here but I don't know where else to say this...I am upset and ANGRY!!!!

I should stop now because I know I am not sounding healthy here.

Nicole

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  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited May 2019

    Yes, you are in shock and mad! You express yourself well, which is a good thing. It will help get you through treatment. Since you are on Lupron, I assume you are premenopausal. Has anyone suggested genetic counseling in order to inform others, children or siblings?

    Your doctor is being very logical in selecting therapeutic agents and letting you know that radiation is a possibility for the pain of bone mets. I also sought out an orthopedic specialist who gave me an oral steroid regimen which worked temporarily. When I went back for follow-up and finally got an xray, we found a fractured vertebrae that I realized was from metastatic disease.

    In time, you will wrap your head around these diagnoses and continue to live. You probably already know that survival statistics are dated and don’t take into account new therapies like Ibrance. Gentle hugs to you and your husband as you address all of this.

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited May 2019

    Thanks for your reply. At least you did reply for that I am grateful. :)

  • sandilee
    sandilee Member Posts: 1,843
    edited May 2019

    It's really hard to wrap one's head around this when all of the news keeps getting worse.If it helps, I've been in Stage 4 officially since 2011, and according to my doc, probably even from the beginning. (2008) because when they found my bone mets they were everywhere. Liver tumors popped up in 2015. Yes, you will be in treatment for the rest of your life, but to think it will only be 5 years is most likely wrong.

    I'm still here. I will repeat what vlnrph said in that the data out there is old and outdated, and no longer applies with all the newer treatments. It sounds like you have good care, as your doc already has sent in for Foundation One.

    Take a deep breath and realize that no one has an expiration date stamped on their foot. You will soon be on a new treatment plan and knocking those liver tumors back. Once you get over the shock and start living again, you will have a new appreciation for everything good in your life. Since I was diagnosed, I lost my mother, my mother-in-law, and my son, all of whom I thought would outlive me. You just never know what's around the corner, so don't make any assumptions. Take each day as it comes. Best of luck to you.

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited May 2019

    Sandilee wow you really are an inspiration for me to think positive. I am so sorry about those you lost :( .

    I am so happy you are doing well though and have so many years under your belt since you were diagnosed.

    Tomorrow I should have the PET scan results. I just pray it is not in any other organs. Thank you for your really sweet and positive reply it really does help me.

    Nicole

  • Daywalker
    Daywalker Member Posts: 99
    edited May 2019

    Oh NicoleRod, in my opinion the worst thing about this disease so far has been the fear and uncertainty around the future... But to try and encourage your heart, my doc said the other day we live in the time when living another year is enough to expose you to a breakthrough medicine, and with each year that possibility grows exponentially... So in two to five years time you would be able to get meds that will turn this condition from terminal to chronic, like diabetes. I know its hard, man do I know it, but this is more of a mental and emotional stamina issue now.. One foot I front of the next, if our current meds can give us another two to five years then wow, by then something new will be there, which will get us to grey hair and wobbly knees!

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited May 2019

    Daywalker thanks for you reply!! Hope you are doing well! I see you are NEAD that so great!

  • SandiBeach57
    SandiBeach57 Member Posts: 1,617
    edited May 2019

    NicoleRed. The shock will eventually lessen.

    Please know that newer treatments are extending our lives.

    At the beginning, my DH and I talked about this dx nonstop. We needed to have a plan of action, new goals. I got organized..clearing out accumulated crap and made sure my Will, power of attorney and medical power of attorney were updated. I made sure precious family items were designated to my kids with written history.

    Now we chose to discuss my health only when necessary. It was hurting him. He was grieving while I was still living. We both decided that was just wasting precious moments. He said he would have plenty of time to grieve later..IF I went first!

    So we chose to live and enjoy everything..grandkids, camping, sitting on our deck with iced tea or wine! I work part time at a winery, volunteer with Hospice, sit at endangered sea turtle nests and jog/walk..okay, really just a fast walk. I really do think my life has been more enriched with this dx.

    You will get there..promise!

    It took me 9 months to get a complete response to Ibrance/Letrozole. It is a slow process, don't be discouraged. Routine scans, labs and "how you feel" will tell you and your MO when to change to next treatment. My MO doesn't want me to change meds too soon.

    I did have IV chemo (AC) at diagnosis as I was in crisis mode with mets in both liver lobes..too numerous to count. Once I was stable, I went directly to Ibrance 100mg/Letrozole.

    You and your MO are in a partnership now. Get educated about your specific cancer. Don't be afraid to get a second or third opinion. Change your MO if he/she is not listening or not a good fit for you. IT IS YOUR CANCER AND LIFE.

    Take notes..good info on BCO. Write questions for your MO visit and do not leave until they are answered. Get copies of your scans and clinic notes/labs with each visit.

    Read Bestbird's book. Search under her name to get the free PDF download instructions or order the hardback thru Amazon. I did both.

    We are living longer with good quality of lives.

  • NicoleRod
    NicoleRod Member Posts: 2,906
    edited May 2019

    Wow Sandibeach...!!! I read your post to my husband...he totally agrees with your husband about IF I go first then he can grieve. I am a planner too, but I think most women are...my husband is a Marine so he is a fighter and refuses to surrender lol. I am so happy to hear how you enjoy life. I want to get to that point..and that is my goal. Right now we are so in limbo. We are staying in our sons 1 bedroom apartment with him and his fiancee so I can get to the 3 month mark on these meds and first scan before we head back to Hawaii. It's been so hard here but we also cannot afford to come back and forth. The military is trying to move us to the Northern VA area we are hoping (fingers crossed) by January. Then I will just drive up to NY for my treatments each month it's only about 4 hours. Until then we are here till end of August I am hoping at that time the Ibrance will shrink the tumors enough and they will do a localized procedure then. Then we can head back and get the house ready to move when we go back to Hawaii we could be there for 5 months or so, so I will have to get my injections there but we want to be here for the first 3 months. While it is hard, on the positive side its the first time in years that we are able to live with our son so that is a great thing that I am grateful for.

    Thanks again for your post. I am going to strive for those things.!!


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