Double or Single Mastectomy
so far they know I have atleast DCIS with suspicious of invasion in one breast. The amount of malignancy in that breast doesn’t give me much of an option but to have mastectomy. The doctors encourage I remove both though. Since I’m young. I was so on that bandwagon. Now I’m questioning it because I like having my boob! I will miss the feelings in regard to my sex life. It’s my boob and I feel wrong to kill it when it seems fine. But I also don’t want to do this again. Super hard and sad decision. I would love to hear others reasoning for their decision and if they regret it. Thanks
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mother of two, you are so right. I'm sorry you are going through this. It's normal to waiver back and forth. It's not an easy decision.
My reasoning for BMX was that I didnt want to go through this again. I had dense breasts and didnt want the worry of future cancers possibly being missed. My relatively small tumor had some aggressive features. You are right. It's a sad and difficult decision.
I do not regret my decision in the least. No matter what any of us do cancer can still come back. I have a normal amount of worry but dont obsess about recurrence.
I was a candidate for skin sparing, nipple sparing and cosmetically had a good outcome. Yes, there is loss of sensation but not totally. Nips still respond to temperature change and there is still some sensation. I'm only mentioning this so that should you choose bilateral maybe there are some options for the healthy breast as far as keeping the nipple, inframammary incision etc.
I wish you the best in making your decision and again I'm sorry you have to deal with all this.
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What are their reasons for wanting both breasts removed? Is it just your age? Type of cancer? Genetic factors? Something on the imaging that they are concerned with? The more knowledge you have regarding their reasoning the better. I understand your concern regarding the loss of feeling in your breasts and your sex life.
My breasts were very small and my tumor was fairly large. I would have needed reconstruction on both regardless just to match up. That weighed heavily into my decision. I also had very cystic breasts which made it difficult to read themammograms. I too did not want to have to go through it again. Although I still worry about recurrence. I chose to have both removed. Pathology after my BMX discovered a .9mm tumor in my “clean" breast. I say this not to scare you and I know it is not the usual outcome but it happens. It did not show up on my imaging. I got lucky either my choice. On the bright side I did have nipple/skin sparing BMX and they look pretty much like they did before. I have sensation on the sides of my breast but not the nipple area. That may never come back.
I would delve into exactly why they are suggesting a BMX. My doctors left it up to me but gave me enough information to make decision that was right for me. It is ultimately your choice.
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I’m going to ask again about sparring nipple but I have a lump right behind it and I was told that it’s too close to save. So my thoughts on saving the nipple on the other side are pointless if it won’t have the same feeling.
The recommendation does seem to be solely on my age and they said I would have to be more closely monitored for the rest of my life. The grade of the cancer is also the most aggressive type. I don’t have results of genetic testing yet but I have no family history.
I guess I know what I’m going to do. It sucks
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I’m close to your age, 34 now. I chose to do both a year ago and haven’t so far regretted the decision. I didn’t want to possibly do this again for the healthy side later. You’d probably do some surgery on healthy side anyway to get some symmetry. I’ve had 2 fat grafting surgeries since surgery, not that you have to, but it does add more hospital and mild recovery time later. I expected bmx recovery to be worse, it’s obviously not amazing but I wouldn’t want to do that again.
... another surgery note, does the type of reconstruction (if that's what you're doing) you'd have impact your decision? I was able to go straight to implants so it kept everything pretty simple. I'm not as educated about other reconstruction, but there's expanders/swaps that require another go into surgery.
Biggest reason was my kids. If they’d been older my decision might have been different, but probably not. They are little (almost 3 and 5 at the time) and need me. They did great with what we went through. I had DCIS and was able to skip out on radiation or chemo, but if something happened later on the other side that was more serious and I needed those things, I just couldn’t rock their world that much. We were also done having kids, which helped make it an easy decision to do both.
I’m way happier with my new boobs that I was with the real ones (thanks breastfeeding). I don’t miss my nipples. I don’t have any difference in my sex life. There’s some loss of feeling but not as much as I expected. Sleeping hasn’t been affected too much, I can still sleep on my side and stomach, just a little modified than before. Love not wearing a bra!
Like DebAL said, there’s always a chance that this can come back, but I don’t live with that worry until I’m at a 6mo check up appt and I’m in a gown waiting for the doctor and it hits me that while this is just probably an appt to catch up that they could discover something. It’s not even a thought on other days though. It would have been if I’d only done one.
I initially had planned on lumpectomy and radiation until my MRI showed a mastectomy would be better for me. From the beginning though I was considering bmx just to be done with this. It does feel weird having something so extreme be the easy choice to make. I struggled with that. It was a relief to me when they came back and said there was more DCIS and a mastectomy would be better. I’ll never know for sure but had I stuck with the pre MRI plan I think I’d have regret not doing more.
Big hugs while you think it all out for what’s best for you.
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mountainmomma
It's good to hear from those that have had to make the same decisions. I have an mri scheduled next week so maybe those results will have some impact on my decision. I also haven't met with my plastic surgeon yet so I don't know my options. I will have reconstruction. I'm 32 and have two kids also. They are age 2 and 3. The recovery will be very difficult with them around. My genetic testing results could impact it also. So I have a lot to sell understand. I just hate that I have to wait till after surgery to know if it's invasive or not. I am glad that I have had the opportunity to breastfeed both of my children and im done having more. I also might have to make the decision to have my ovaries removed.
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yes. The MRI will help with your decision. My Surgeon had me prepared for something in the other breast so there was definitely relief when all was good there. By that time I was pretty solidified with my decision to have both removed.
Mountainmomma is right. I have an onc appt this friday. I feel myself a little more anxious this week. I also agree, not as much loss of feeling as I expected too.
There is so much to understand and so overwhelming. Your PS should lay out all of your options. Also, keep an open mind. I knew before I went in I may be direct to implant or wake up with expanders. Tissue perfusion and blood flow is determined in surgery. I trusted my PS to make the best decision at the time. Many here also get second and 3rd opinions. That sometimes makes your decision a little more clear.
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I'm so sorry you are forced to even think about this at your age!
From how I am understanding your posts, you have zero idea if this is invasive or not. If it is DCIS, then there is no rush to do anything. Some studies are saying imaging has gotten so good that many women would walk around for years before DCIS was even diagnosed. Still, they do not know which DCIS will become invasive or stay dormant and just "be" there without causing issue. You don't need to make any decisions till you know what you are dealing with.
For myself, I chose BMX because I was large breasted and did not want to feel lopsided and always having to wear a prosthetic going out. I did not want recon, so that would have been my only choice. If you choose recon, the odds are that you will require new implants in 10-20 or so years and since you are so young, another surgery would no doubt be in your future. There are recon options that use your own fat, but with 2 small children, you'd have to factor that in. I'm mentioning this because you indicated BMX decision so you won't go through another surgery...so maybe saving a healthy breast and not "killing it" (to use your words) is an option. There's no guarantee that you would go on to develop a second breast cancer.
Keep us posted on your decision and keep an open mind. The more details and information you have, the easier (sometimes) it is to make the decision.
Good luck and so sorry you are here.
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This is the tough period - all the testing, waiting, consults, and decision making. Ultimately, you need to be comfortable with your decision. You should consider a second opinion and consult with an oncologist, not just surgeons, regarding the recurrence risks. Also consider these things as you think about a double mastectomy (removing a healthy breast) - does it really reduce your risk or simply address your worry? Your surgical complication risk doubles when you add a prophylactic mastectomy. How will you feel if reconstruction complications happen on that side only? I'm not trying to talk you out of a BMX, just want to offer another perspective. I was older than you and my recurrence likelihood is low. My breast surgeon advocated for BMX with implants. My plastic surgeon would have done that but did raise the complication risks. Also, I understand that your children are young and you may be making decisions based on what might be the "fastest" recovery. Again, think twice about making a decision that lasts a lifetime on a short term need. Cancer is hard - there really is no short cut. Despite a unilateral mastectomy, I still have annual mammograms - no more often that before my cancer diagnosis.
Good luck in the coming weeks as you make your plans.
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I agree with Runrcrb -- It took me almost 4 months to make the decision --- However, my cancer was slow growing. I thought at first that I wanted a BMX -- then I changed it to just one breast. Then someone said to start small and go big if you have to and that is what I ended up doing. A lumpectomy has the same long term results as a mastectomy as far as metastasis goes. Even though my breast may be a little deformed I'm still glad I did the lumpectomy. Please do get a second opinion regarding surgery. The MRI will tell you much more and probably will help with your decision making. A friend of mine did get a single MX when she was 41 --- she is 71 now and fine.
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hello sweetie it is your choice but I chose Lmast only I was planning our wedding when found lump in shower first I had some pain under arm. Well long story short I decided on just Lmast and my Fiance at time was very supportive. Worked in medical field at the time so biopsy in September diagnosed then 3 mo chemo before and after Lmast then we got married then 7wks rads and 5yrs on Tamoxifen This yr will be a 25yr Survivor Praise God still have my right breast.Had reconstruction but body rejected it wear prothesis in bras. So stay Positive and keep Hope. msphil idc stage2 0/3 nodes Lmast chemo adriamycin.cytoxin 5fu, 7wks rads 5yrs on Tamoxifen. Still a little long.
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I’m in the same boat - young, no genetic history...initially I said yes to the double for preventative measures but I’m feeling really nervous about losing both boobs. Truly hard decision...
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If you are in doubt, you could do things in phases. You could do whatever surgery makes the most sense in the cancer breast, and see how you feel about the outcome. Then you could decide about the other breast based on that. There is absolutely no rush on the 2nd breast. In order to get a less invasive number of lymph nodes taken I agreed to get a second surgery if there was not a pCR. I would have been SO PISSED to wake up with no lymph nodes and then find out 5 days later that they did not need to be taken. I did get a pCR, so there was no need to go back for more nodes.
I am very fond of my breasts and they are sensitive, and I was really happy to keep them, and to be able to get a lumpectomy plus Rads. I also told my surgeon, "if you have to make a choice between appearance and sensation, please protect sensation." That was my biggest concern. If I had had to do a MX, I would have definitely kept my healthy breast. Some people are more or less body-aware... I am very body aware and I am pretty sure it would bug me to have an insensate fake breast. I have a semi-insensate finger (almost cut it off years ago) and it took ages for me to get used to it.
Personally I would want to do what was medically intelligent and prudent, but no more than that. You need to know the chance of a recurrence in the other breast and weigh that against the chance of recurrence even if you get a double MX (which is not zero). If your cancer is low grade and you don't have a genetic issue that's very different than a high grade, involved nodes or BRCA+.
It's great to weigh all your options, and think things through ahead of time. In this community there are women who have experienced all of the possibilities so whatever choice you make you will be fully informed!
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Hi
I am scheduled to have nipple sparing surgery May 7th. Just did my MRI but no results yet. I wanted to know for those who had a dbl mastectomy, nipple sparring mastectomy etc. If you have a desk job, how soon are you able to go back to work? Were you in a lot of pain or just numb and soreness?
I ask because Ive been at my new job only a month and if there is a 6week recovery like Im reading online, They may let me go. Im not sure.
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I’m taking off 4 weeks only because I can. I’ve heard some say 3 weeks would’ve been fine for desk job. Also depends on type of reconstruction, implants are faster healing and particularly implants over muscle. I’ll be doing implants under which I think 3 weeks is sufficient. IMO. Sorry u have a new job and have to worry about that. Take care of yourself
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Thank you Motheroftwo.
Im only getting the tissue expanders. I have to wait on the reconstruction. Is it less time for just tissue expanders?
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Motheroftwo --- I just noticed that you are in Mobile --- I recently had to make the same horrible decision and finally decided on lumpectomy -- had it done 2/21. Where are you being treated? I started at providence, but got angry with them so switched to Mitchell Center -- My Oncologist and surgeon are at Mitchell, but I'm using Mobile Infirmary for radiation.
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I’m getting tissue expander too. The TE is either placed under or over muscle just as the implant is. The actual implant exchange is a much quicker recovery. I would suggest u call your plastic surgeon and ask him those questions.
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jessie123
Nice to know a local! I started at infirmary but I switched to providence. I’m using providence for everything now, I’ve had great experience with them. I’m debating though on traveling if my cancer is invasive.
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A friend in my neighborhood used providence and was happy with them. She also had DCIS. I was told to always get a second opinion on the pathology since that helps determine your treatment. Mine was sent off to a breast pathology specialist after surgery. It did agree with the Women and Childrens hospital path report. You might want to tell Providence to do that. Then when you know for sure what you have you can get treatment recommendations elsewhere. I'm just exhausted by all the doctor visits and testing.
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Motheroftwo36,
I'm sure this must be a hard decision, particularly at your age. A mastectomy was recommended (by two different doctors) for my cancerous breast. My DCIS was high grade, and ER-/PR-. They had to do additional staining because a few cells looked suspicious for invasion. (Fortunately for me, everything was DCIS after final pathology). I chose to have both breasts removed. I hated every second of the diagnosis, the worrying, the waiting - way more than I loved my breasts. I made my decision instantly, as soon as the first doctor recommended mastectomy on the cancerous breast. More than anything, I just wanted to do as much as I could to ensure that I never had to face this again. I have not regretted my decision for one minute.
Please know that whatever you decide, it will be what you thought was best for you, at the time you made the decision. Try not to second-guess yourself. This is an awful disease, and I'm so sorry you are having to make these decisions.
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It's such a personal decision. My experience/thought process was as follows.
Fist DX: Choose lumpx + rads + bi-lateral reduction. Survival is said to be equal and I adamantly did not want Mx.
Second DX: My oncologist immediately recommend Mx and, this time, I felt it was what I needed to do.. Cancer was only on one side but, for me, if I was going to do one the other was absolutely going as well. Considerations were 1) symmetry 2) Not wanting to go through this a third time.
Pathology came back healthy on the unaffected breast but I don't regret my decision.
I am exactly two weeks out from Skin-sparing with tissue Expanders and I could easily go back to a desk job at this point. I'm 39 if that factors in.
Best of luck to everyone. These decisions are not easy.
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Anyone experienced swollen ankles after chemo? Im Its been almost 4 weeks since Ive stopped. is it something to be alarmed about? will it go away on its own?
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Hopebry, I had leg swelling after taxotere - mine gradually went down over the course of about a year. Definitely ask your Dr, because I think sometimes it can be a concern, but for me it was okay eventually. Best wishes to you.
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Just had my Nipple Sparring BMX. In some pain, have discomfort and numbness. Tissue Expanders hurt. Breast surgeon took only 3 lymph nodes and pathology report came back good , all negative. Resting a lot and trying to heal and brace myself for the next surgery.
Cant wait until this process is over and I can regain my normal.life and movement.
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Hi HopeBry,
I just read your post and I'm sending you a gentle hug. I see we have some things in common with our diagnosis.💜
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Thanks @Romashka hugging you back.
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I went through the same agonizing decision. It took a month to wrap my head around the right choice.
April 22 I had one breast removed with immediate reconstruction. I love still having one breast that is mine. I can feel it, and it’s familiar and is kind of like an old friend.
The breast that was removed has been a problem for 10 years! I was always called back for extra imaging.
The other breast was never a problem—ever, so I have high hopes she’s going to be fine!
Much love
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My PS expanded my tissue expander to the max this last visit. The next day I felt sick and vomited one time. I assumed it was the medicines. I had back pains and headaches. A day later more pain and now my right expander is red and swollen and hurts like hell. Feel like there is a slight rash in some areas. it looks like little hives. Nothing is wrong with my left side and he expanded that one as well though. Does this mean I have an infection or something else? anyone experienced this? Im getting worried.
This is a holiday weekend so not sure if I can even reach him now.
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Put in a call to your PS. This is why they make the big bucks.
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hopebry
Sorry I’ve experienced redness and swelling but all prior to expanding. Ps will have someone on call u can Atleast talk to
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