Case report of long-term survival with metastatic disease

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EM12345
EM12345 Member Posts: 1

Hello,

This is my first post here. My wife and I will be sharing this account.

My wife found a case report via a facebook group that seems very interesting. It says I am not allowed to post links at this time so I just copy and pasted the abstract here:

Rationale: Breast cancer is the most common as well as one of the most devastating cancers among women in the United States. Prognosis is poor for patients with metastatic breast cancer, especially for patients with so-called "triple-negative" disease. The lack of effective therapies for metastatic triple-negative breast cancer outlines the need for novel and innovative treatment strategies.

Patient concerns: A 58-year-old underwent a mastectomy which revealed a recurrent triple-negative breast carcinoma. Afterward, she presented with a growing mass in her left axilla and chest wall. A computed tomography scan showed axillary and supraclavicular adenopathy, nodules in the left upper and lower lobe of the lungs, and 2 areas of disease in the liver. A bone scan showed lesions in the ribs.

Diagnosis: The patient was diagnosed with a recurrent metastatic triple-negative breast carcinoma that spread to the lung, liver, and bones.

Interventions: The patient was treated with metronomic chemotherapy, sequential chemotherapy regimens, and immunotherapy.

Outcomes: The patient is now over 15 years out from her diagnosis of metastatic disease without any evidence of recurrent disease, likely due to the patient's treatment strategy which included sequential metronomic chemotherapy regimens and immunotherapy.

Lessons: Sequential metronomic chemotherapy regimens in combination with immunotherapy might be an effective treatment option for patients with metastatic triple-negative breast cancer. We hope that this case can provide some guidance for the treatment of metastatic triple-negative breast cancer and motivate research that can potentially lead to more cases of long-term survival for patients who develop this dismal disease.


Since I can't post a link, to see the study just google the title belo to see the full study:

"Case report of long-term survival with metastatic triple-negative breast carcinoma"


I'm wondering if

A) these kind of case reports are very common

B) anyone has experience with metronomic chemotherapy

C) if anyone has advocated for a nonstandard approach to chemotherapy for metastatic disease based on a case report like this

Thanks!



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  • Lauriesh
    Lauriesh Member Posts: 692
    edited April 2019

    I don’t think these cases are very common. About 2-3 % of women are “ cured” of metastatic breast cancer, that is, they have longterm ned status.

    I told my drs I wanted to do everything I could to survive. I added in new treatments ( tykerb, perjeta) , as they became approved, to my treatment regimen. I had liver ablation to get me to Ned. I did a her2 vaccine trial. I have been Ned over 8 years and on no treatment for over 4 years

  • vlnrph
    vlnrph Member Posts: 1,632
    edited April 2019

    A report from 2014: The prognosis of patients with metastatic breast cancer is very poor. Because of this, treatment of skeletal metastasis is often palliative with limited goals rather than cure. However, there are those patients, such as presented here, who survive for an extended time.

    PRESENTATION OF CASE: This 36 year old female presented with lytic lesions to one ulna and rib 5 years after mastectomy for breast cancer. Despite radiation and chemotherapy, the ulnar lesion expanded and resulted in an elbow dislocation. The rib lesion was resected and the arm amputated above the elbow. She developed local recurrence in both her above elbow amputation stump and chest wall and a more proximal below shoulder amputation was performed with resection of chest wall lesion. Even though she had locally aggressive disease, she has survived for 31 years after diagnosis without any evidence of disease.

    DISCUSSION: Reports of metastatic breast cancer survival indicate the 5 year survival to be 15%. There have been few reports indicating that those patients with skeletal only or oligometastatic disease have improved prognosis. It is not clear what biological properties of these tumors results in the improved survival.

    CONCLUSION: This case highlights the challenges of giving patients the optimal treatment in the light of limited ability to predict prognosis. It also highlights the need to further investigate the phenotypes of breast cancer that can, despite metastatic disease and with modern treatment go on to long survival. In addition this case demonstrates the importance of long term followup.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited April 2019

    https://journals.lww.com/md-journal/Fulltext/2019/04190/Case_report_of_long_term_survival_with_metastatic.63.aspx

    here is the article

    write to the doctors

    i moved for better treatment. A friend told me about my oncologist, he just retired last month. he did things outside the box. I did maybe a year and half of chemo with him. pet scan in few hours so cant sleep

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited April 2019

    I have heard occasional stories about success with metronomic therapy. I have inquired about metronomic therapy with my MO and he was not opposed to it but noted that in his experience, it hasn't worked well on the patients he has seen. I still may consider it at some point. The theory is that there is an immunogenic response and that the constant therapy doesn't let the endothelial cells grow, among other impacts from the specific treatments.

  • JFL
    JFL Member Posts: 1,947
    edited April 2019

    vlnrph, interesting story about the person with bone mets. On the one hand, living 31 years sounds amazing. On the other, this poor woman had to have her arm amputated up to the shoulder.

  • LoriCA
    LoriCA Member Posts: 923
    edited April 2019

    JFL, I know right? And not just once, first it was amputated above the elbow, and then later amputated at the shoulder. Plus she had at least a section of a rib removed. And let's not forget that she had a breast amputated (maybe both?). I know that quality of life concerns about treatment is a highly personal decision for each of us, but I'm pretty sure I personally couldn't repeatedly continue to cut off parts of my body every time cancer reared it's ugly head.

    There's a local woman I've come to know who has been living with MBC for over 20 years now (since 1998). She's an outspoken advocate and very involved in the Metastatic Breast Cancer community. I just saw her again a couple weeks ago when she was a keynote speaker at a metastatic breast cancer conference and she was doing well. She recently wrote a blog post outlining all of the treatments she's had. What's really interesting is that she was originally Triple Negative, then it changed to ER+ and is currently HER2+ too, each time it changed it opened new treatment options for her https://catsncancer.com/2018/10/01/20-years-of-mbc-treatment/

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited April 2019

    I've been to several MBC conferences where they ask ladies to stand up/sit down depending on how long they've been living with the disease. There are always a few with 15+ years.

    So yes, these folks exist. And they're out and about living their lives. There's a study going on at the University of Wisconsin enrolling women who have lived a long time to try and figure out why.

  • Tina2
    Tina2 Member Posts: 2,943
    edited April 2019

    Pam et al, I'm in the Wisconsin study and learned recently that I've made it into the second cohort of outliers. Woo-hoo!

    Happy to spit into a tube for science,

    Tina


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