Radiologist response
I am curious if any of you had the radiologist or mammogram/ultra sound tech say anything to you after your dx mammogram and dx ultrasound. I had my 6 month follow up for a mass found 6 months ago but no one said anything. The ultra sound tech did not scan near or in my armpit by the mass they found 6 months ago even though I said I thought I had felt some swelling there. I am guessing the radiologist did not see any change or big concerns because he/she did not come talk to me - said to wait for my doctor to get the report. Did you all have to wait for a report from your doctor or did the radiologist say anything to you first?
Thoughts?
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at diagnostic mammogram the radiologist said several times that she saw a suspicious area. Then she told me that unfortunately she believed it to be malignant. I went back the next day for biopsy (they did a quick pathology). She was right.
I am not sure if all radiologists give their thoughts at the time, but I’m glad mine did. I would rather know what she thought it was My surgeon told me she should not have said anything until after pathology.
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at diagnostic mammogram the radiologist said several times that she saw a suspicious area. Then she told me that unfortunately she believed it to be malignant. I went back the next day for biopsy (they did a quick pathology). She was right.
I am not sure if all radiologists give their thoughts at the time, but I'm glad mine did. I would rather know what she thought it was My surgeon told me she should not have said anything until after pathology.
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I was told after my ultra sound so schedule a biopsy.
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I wish my radiologist had told me that I should have a biopsy or MRI. Instead my PCP just called and said my ultrasound was negative. When I saw the same radiologist later for my sentinel biopsy dye injection almost 2 years later, I asked him why he didn't tell me and he said my PCP should have told me. "You should have had a biopsy or MRI," were his exact words, and yet his damn report stated, "The area of the lump appears benign. Further testing should be based upon clinical suspicion.". My stupid PCP interpreted this as do nothing, even though I had a palpable lump the size of a marble!
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My radiologist did not say she suspected malignancy after the diagnostic mammogram and ultrasound but said I should have a stereotactic biopsy. The radiologist who did the biopsy told me the mass was irregular before during the biopsy. When I said "That's not good" his response was "Let's not go there yet" so I was hoping there might be good news (previous biopsy on other breast was benign so I had been there before). Well, we did go there. I've had two post treatment mammos and ultrasounds and both times the radiologist (same facility, two different radiologists) reported the findings to me before I left the exam room. I'm very grateful for their caring and support.
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I greatly appreciate all of your responses. I would love to hear from more of you as the info helps greatly. Six months ago, my 'mass' was not palatable. It since has become so and I think my underarm has some small swelling in it. I thought they would scan there too, but they did not. They scanned briefly over the mass location with me in two positions - left the room - came back and then said my doctor would talk with me. Same with the mammogram part - took diagnostic - left room - came back - took more - something about getting deeper and more muscle image near chest wall (?) - then sent me to ultra sound. I just thought the waiting would be over, but I guess not quite yet. Insights?
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I had been getting diagnostic mammograms every 6 months to keep an eye on some calcifications in my right breast. Because of this, I was always scheduled for a 3D mammogram on a day when there was a radiologist on site to read my films. Ironically, at my last mammogram, they told me that I could go back to annual mammograms on the right, but there was something that needed investigation on the other side. The radiologist she didn't know what it was, so wanted to do a needle biopsy. The ultrasound tech said she's a known for being cautious doctor. I'm grateful to her for finding my cancer at an early stage!In your case, jp18, I wonder if there wasn't a radiologist on site during your appointment? When they first found my calcifications, I got a phone call a few days later to say the radiologist reviewed my films and wanted me to come back for additional views.
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when I went for my diagnostic mammo and US it was the tech and the imaging navigator that I spoke with. The tech would step out to talk to the radiologist then come back and get further images. When she was done she came back in after talking to the radiologist and informed me he wanted a biopsy and the navigator would schedule it for me. I would have liked to have spoken to the radiologist but I didn’t push for it. The tech took the time to show me on the US screen what I was feeling and told me several times “but your lymph nodes look good “ so that was kinda telling to me. I then got the report from my Dr. just before the biopsy appointment
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I’ve been to 2 different hospitals/breast centers for diagnostic mammograms and diagnostic ultrasounds. The policy at each location was that you don’t leave without your results. One time I was told benign findings (lump was determined to be an island of breast tissue - got 2nd opinion and both agreed). And another time the radiologist told me another mass was ‘slightly’ suspicious and gave me the choice to wait 6 months or to schedule an ultrasound guided core needle biopsy. All of this information was told to me at my imaging appt’s. A screening mammo is different. You have to wait for your results as a radiologist isn’t reading your images immediately. Whatever you find out, do yourself a favor and get a copy of the radiologist’s report. Read it and ask questions if need be. And get a 2nd opinion if you’re not comfortable with the answers you receive!
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My radiologist came in and spoke with me immediately following my diagnostic mammogram and ultrasound. He said that he was 99% sure it was malignant and he felt that I would do well. I found out later that they can predict certain things by the appearance. Mine was spiculated with posterior shadowing and acoustic shadows. That is apparently a pretty strong signal that the tumor is hormone positive. He also didn't think my nodes showed anything but unfortunately, I did have 2 micromets in the very first sentinel node of 8. That may have happened from the biopsy procedures but who knows? Those are so small that they don't show up on pre-surgery tests.
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After I had the mammogram, I got a letter and a call that I needed an ultrasound and, if necessary, a biopsy the same day. The breast center made the appointment for me, and the ultrasound tech immediately gave the results to the radiologist, and they did the biopsy then and there. It seemed to be standard procedure at this center.
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when I had a mammogram they saw a suspicious area to which they did spot compressions, and then took me into the U/S room to do a scan. They saw a spiculated area and told me there they want to do a biopsy (they did a vacuum assisted biopsy). It was all explained to me and done on the same day.
I am fortunate however to have been diagnosed with a Complex Radial lesion (Radial scar), Fibroadenoma, and florid ductal hyperplasia.
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These are very interesting and enlightening. I am guessing most likely there has been no change in my mass - or at least not enough to warrant a face-to-face with the radiologist. I did notice that there were about 5 of us being shuffled about between the one mammogram machine and 2 ultra sound rooms. I also think they only have one radiologist on duty and he/she is also looking at more than just the 'breast' stuff; as in - ex-rays for other injuries and illnesses that come into this family clinic. The 'breast area' is apart of this. It doesn't sound like anyone with cancer was sent out of the diagnostic mammo and ultra sound without information. I am guessing it is probably few, if any, that received a phone call from their referring physician (gynecologist or primary doctor, etc) with results. I have learned so much from this forum and am grateful. I would love to keep hearing your thoughts and insights from more of you all.
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my radiologist spoke to me immediately after my mammogram. She performed the ultrasound and the biopsy immediately after our discussion.
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I wish they had been able to do the biopsies the same day but I had to wait 2 weeks for the biopsies (they did both the needle by ultrasound and the stero by mammogram the same day). Then more than 2 weeks later they did the lumpectomy. All of the waiting is so stressful. Best wishes to everyone dealing with this now. For me, it was the worst part of the ordeal. Waiting for pathology and onco results was also stressful. I tend to get anxious....patience is not one of my virtues.
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My radiologist told on the spot that I needed a biopsy. She told me it was 1 in 5 chance of cancer. Then after the biopsy she told me she was "worried" and thought it looked bad. She called me with results less than 24 hours later. My ordering doc (gyn) never got involved any further, and I was then referred to a surgeon.
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We need to ask direct questions of the techs, and ask for our reports in writing, and ask to speak to the physicians at the imaging places if we want not to wait in suspense every time-- otherwise, we're just *hoping* people will talk to us about what they see, passively. We're aren't little kids, and they are scanning OUR bodies. I find it so patronizing that they do not say obvious things. The angriest I have felt is over lengthy waits to find out conclusions that were *obvious* to the naked eye of the MD or tech. If there's something unclear, they could say that too.
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Often the techs are not allowed to answer you. The radiologist has to.
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My Radiologist told me immediately that he was 99% certain my huge tumor was malignant, but I didn't believe him. Certainly, he was right.
Two years later, another Radiologist at the same hospital did the biopsy on my mom. She pulled us into her office and told us she was 95% sure
my mom's small lump was malignant and to give us time to prepare because we had been through a lot with my case.
Then less than 9 months after that, another Radiologist, same facility, told my sister he did not think hers was malignant, but going to do a biopsy because of our family history. Thank goodness he did - dense breast tissue - Stage 3C.
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I had a radiologist tell me right after the abnormal digital mammogram, with extra views, that I needed a biopsy.
Then he had the nerve to say 'but 80% of them are benign' as he was getting ready to write a report (which I obtained later) where he described the lesion as BIRADs 5: probably malignant!
Why did he make the comment about statistics if he knew it was cancer from the appearance? I complained via email to the nurse navigator at that community hospital facility who did not even bother to respond. That's when I transferred my care to an academic medical center.
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vlnrph - he was absolutely correct on both counts. He told you the statistics (which are correct) to help you with the freaking out part. Most don't do that, you had a nice one.
jp18, to sum it up, if the radiologist comes out to talk to you after reviewing your mammo, s@it is about to hit the fan.
If they don't, means it's ok, at least for the moment. It's up to your PCP to order follow-ups depending on what's on the report.
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In the state where I live, rad techs, the ones performing the tests are not allowed by law to tell you what they "see". My understanding is that would be diagnosing and since they aren't doctors, they can't. Radiologists are medical doctors. After my diagnostic ultrasound they told me to wait until the radiologist had seen it. She then came to the examining room and said I should have a biopsy. On the other hand, my sister's doctor told her "I wouldn't worry about that lump in your breast". She responded, I guess not it's not in your boob!
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I go out of state (6 hour drive one way) for my yearly mammograms (long story) and after a screening mammogram in 2017, the radiologist told me it was cancer. It was calcifications comprising less than 1 cm and could not be felt so it may seem odd that he was so sure but he has been reading my "film" for almost 20 years. He is in private practice with 20 odd radiologists so is able to concentrate on mammography. He is excellent. I never doubted that he was right and was annoyed I had to have a biopsy -- I wanted surgery because I didn't understand how the biopsy aids the surgery! I came back to my home state and had the stereotactic biopsy and surgery. After that I had my yearly followup mammo in 2018 at the hospital where I had surgery and the radiologist talked to me that day because he found a suspicious area - BiRad 4. My surgeon (who does the biopsies rather than the radiologist) is in private practice but her office is in the same building so I could have had a biopsy that day. The surgeon was convinced it was scar tissue so I opted to wait 6 months. At that followup mammo 6 months later, radiologist did not talk to me (I was not pleased about that) but I met with the surgeon immediately who told me the earlier "suspicious area" was "nothing" as she had thought it would be but the radiologist had found a new area of suspicion. Idea was that I would have biopsy that day but I opted again to refuse. But after I got home I decided to go ahead and do the biopsy because the new calcifications were in a row indicating they were in a duct. It was benign. So that was 2 false positives in 6 months. I am going to talk with the surgeon before the next mammo and see if eliminating the 3D part of the imaging is the way to go or maybe a second opinion on the mammo. If nothing else I will hit the road again at mammo time. Polly
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I suddenly noticed that my right breast seemed swollen 6 months after a clear mammogram. A week later, the u/s tech confirmed with an off-site radiologist that she got all the necessary shots. She gave nothing away. A few days after that, I got a call to schedule a biopsy. I’m sure it was the tech’s job to remain neutral but I always wonder how many tumors she’s seen and never said a word.
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Well, I have never had a diagnostic mammogram that didn’t need a biopsy, so...I have no experience to share there, sadly.
All of the times when my mammogram/ultrasound showed something that needed a biopsy involved the radiologist coming in to talk to me. The radiologist told me he would have been “shocked” if it wasn’t cancer this last time. He was right, it was. I was angry at the time for him throwing that out there but in the long run I’m glad I had that little bit of extra warning.
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I think it varies so much depending on where you go and even what type of insurance you have. After my mammogram, then ultrasound and biopsy, I was given an appointment with a breast surgeon and all I had to do was get a referral from my PCP, as required by my insurance. The PCP has only been involved when I needed any other referrals. The surgeon's office set me up with the medical oncologist and radiation oncologist. I was impressed how seamless it all was, and that I did not have to do anything except show up. This wasn't a major cancer center like at a teaching hospital, but a dedicated breast center at a somewhat smaller hospital in a large urban area.
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I started out at a large academic cancer center. They follow up positive mammos with MRI because it can find things that don't show up on mammos sometimes. Some insurers may balk at that because of expense.
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Oh, I almost forgot, I had an MRI, ordered by the breast surgeon, before the lumpectomy. And I had a pre-surgery CT scan ordered by the oncologist, but I had been referred to her by my PCP for a different reason (she's also a hematologist) and she wanted a better look at my lungs since I was still a smoker at the time.
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I had a mammogram and ultrasound on Monday for a lump that I felt on my right breast. After the ultrasound, the radiologist came into the room and said, "It doesn't look good." The rest of what she said is hazy, but here is what I remember. She said, I'm not going to sugar coat it. It is (or maybe she added a probably) cancer and you have one, only one, lymph node that is scanning abnormal. That was supposed to make me feel better, I think. She said you need to have a biopsy. We can't do it today because we need preauthorizations, but we'll get you in tomorrow or Wednesday.I had the biopsy yesterday and should have the results on Thursday or Friday. She also said something like no cancer is the same and the biopsy will guide us on the treatment. She also said to stay of the internet.
The radiologist that did the biopsy seemed to not want to give me too much information. I asked about next steps and he reluctantly said we'll talk to your referring doctor (an ob/gyn who I had only seen once). My ob/gyn had told me that if they found anything the radiologist would take over referrals and I wouldn't see her again. He told me that they like to consult with the referring doctor and then will refer to a surgeon.
That being said, has anyone heard of a radiologist making a diagnosis of cancer after a mammogram and ultrasound that turned out to be benign after the biopsy? My head is telling me that it is cancer because why would the radiologist have said anything if she wasn't 100% sure of what she saw on the scans. My heart is telling me - how would she know just from the scans?
Any advice would be helpful. Thanks!
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During the ultrasound the radiologist made the diagnosis, but didn’t use the word ‘cancer’. Part of me understood, but the other part couldn’t believe it
Back in the consult room, with the nurse navigator and radiologist present, I inquired about my diagnosis, and the radiologist said, coldly, I thought, “Oh, it’s cancer!” I felt like I had been hit by a truck, but in the end, I’m glad she did that. The waiting really is the worst part.
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