December 2018 Surgery Support Group
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Misha I am so sorry and cannot even imagine what you are going through. 6 months of having your entire life turned upside down is so unfair.
I agree with wigging that getting the drains out is a pivotal moment. After researching online you need to have less than 20 (urine cup) for multiple days for a drain to be removed. My doctor followed this guideline as well. Hoping you will get yours out soon.
Tomorrow marks 3 weeks for me and I am doing really well, except for fatigue. Today I went and walked at the mall and was surprised at how tired I was after. I'm hoping to go back at about 4.5 weeks from surgery date.
My PS for whatever reason is adamant about no ibuprofen for 6 weeks. I have no idea why and I should ask next week when I see her again.
My BS called me as soon as he had the pathology report just as he promised he would because he understood the anxiety of waiting. My surgery was on 12/14 and he called me on 12/19. I would call if I were you.
This whole experience has caused me to reflect on all that my sister endured from 2005 when she was first diagnosed until she passed in 2009 at the age of 52 and the incredibly difficult road she had. I am grateful for the advances that have been made since then.
Wigging I too packed up all my old bras. I'm not sure I felt liberated though. I'm still trying to come to terms with my new foobs. I went from a D cup to a C cup per request and the shape is great but they still look and feel so fake to me. Perhaps some future fat grafting and nipple tattoos will help with the look and feel.
Misha hoping and praying for good news on your pathology report and that better days are ahead.
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Misha I am so sorry and cannot even imagine what you are going through. 6 months of having your entire life turned upside down is so unfair.
I agree with wigging that getting the drains out is a pivotal moment. After researching online you need to have less than 20 (urine cup) for multiple days for a drain to be removed. My doctor followed this guideline as well. Hoping you will get yours out soon.
Tomorrow marks 3 weeks for me and I am doing really well, except for fatigue. Today I went and walked at the mall and was surprised at how tired I was after. I'm hoping to go back at about 4.5 weeks from surgery date.
My PS for whatever reason is adamant about no ibuprofen for 6 weeks. I have no idea why and I should ask next week when I see her again.
My BS called me as soon as he had the pathology report just as he promised he would because he understood the anxiety of waiting. My surgery was on 12/14 and he called me on 12/19. I would call if I were you.
This whole experience has caused me to reflect on all that my sister endured from 2005 when she was first diagnosed until she passed in 2009 at the age of 52 and the incredibly difficult road she had. I am grateful for the advances that have been made since then.
Wigging I too packed up all my old bras. I'm not sure I felt liberated though. I'm still trying to come to terms with my new foobs. I went from a D cup to a C cup per request and the shape is great but they still look and feel so fake to me. Perhaps some future fat grafting and nipple tattoos will help with the look and feel.
Misha hoping and praying for good news on your pathology report and that better days are ahead.
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SDwoman I can relate on the fatigue! I went back to work yesterday. I got there at 9 and by 2 pm I was spent. I had today off for my PS appointment...back to work tomorrow and then I have made it through my first “week” haha. I also started driving yesterday...I’m feeling like a pretty independent woman all of a sudden!
I can also relate to the fake feeling. I’m trying to accept mine as part of my body the best I can. It’s getting a little easier. Mine are about the same size as before just much rounder! I did buy a couple of the cute little bralettes that I never could wear before and they look really good, just have to make sure and get ones that cover my scars. I will possibly have fat grafting and likely have nipple tattoos as well at some point down the road. Although the idea of tattoos there sounds quite unpleasant at the moment! Yeowch!
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Wigging Lol....strange I have zero feeling where the nipples would go so I am ready!. The only feeling I have is in between my breasts to about an inch before of where my nipples would be. Over time I may get some feeling back.
My scar is along the fold underneath my breasts and then another straight up to the nipple area. This is something I requested since I thought it hid the scars a little more.
My two daughters, 22 and 19, think this is a golden opportunity to get a tattoo with me as a bonding moment. We have this deal that if they get tatoos while we are still supporting them, the financial support from mom and dad ends. They think they found a loophole!
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so sorry it’s been a rough day and rough 6 months at that. I too haven’t had chemo yet so hard to know how you feel. I am still in a lot of nerve pain under my arms and where they took the nipple. It looks like they left maybe a 1/16th of the nipple and anything that rubs it send me through the roof. I put bandaids over it and wear a tank top under my bra because the rubbing hurts so bad. I am on gabspentine and Motrin and some nights when it’s bad I take my pain meds from surgery. I feel like a wuss because I didn’t even have aMastectomy like most of you and I am complaining. I have a high pain tolerance too so I don’t know what’s going on.
The waiting is so hard! You are right. I think New Years and the holiday put everything behind. They keep pushing out my Oncotype text results.
Like wigging said you are not alone! I am cheering for you and us too! I am praying that this passes for you soon Misha. I am so grateful we have a space to vent and say how we really feel and that we have people here who know and have been through this. Sending you a big hug Misha
I hope you get your drains out and pathology report soon 💕
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Thank you Wigging and SDWoman. I am starting to feel better already. Actually I watched Bird Box on Netflix and that helped get me out of my funk! It really helped me too to read that you both are 3 and 4 weeks out and living life again or about to!
I’m still coming to terms with whats happened. I got to keep my skin and nipples, but now with a huge implant stuck in there. I feel guilty about getting to keep them, and guilty that I wanted them bigger.
SDWoman-My PS prescribed the ibuprofen for me and yours is telling you not to take it for six weeks!? It’s so weird how different the docs are!
Wigging-Yay for back to work and new bras! And thank you for calling me a warrior; that made my day! I needed to hear I am strong when I was feeling so weak!
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Misha one thing I might suggest is to take some pain med before you go to your PS. I thought the drain removal was quite painful. It doesn't last long, but if you can make it better with a little pain med why not. You poor girl have 4. I only had 2. You will be amazed at the length of tube that is removed! I swear it's about 8 to 10 inches.
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HPFULL-We must have posted at the same time! I didn’t see your reply until now. Thank you for the well-wishes and support. I’m grateful we have this space to feel connected to others who are also going thru this crap! I really hope they can figure out what’s causing you the breast pain. Maybe they left some damaged nerve that was supposed to go? Have you called the doc yet?
SDWoman-I am not assuming, but very hopeful that I can get the drains removed tomorrow! Thanks for the advice! I will take some pain reliever before I go!
Going to try to get some sleep in my recliner!
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thinking of you today Misha and hoping you get your drains out.
Oncotype text results are delayed another few days arg
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Hugs to you, Misha. Wishing you good luck. And don't feel guilty about anything - you didn't ask for this. I hope you regain more strength each day.
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HPFULL sorry to hear your test is delayed. My oncologist delayed my follow up appointment a whole week because he said the Oncotype tests are slow over the holidays. I’m sorry you’re still having so much pain! Have you had the painful area looked at recently?
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I’m sorry HPFULL and Wigging are still waiting for oncotype scores! Thats not fair that those determine your next steps and you have been in limbo about it for so long!
alto-Thank you and you are right, I did not ask for this! Cancer is complicated, it is bringing up stuff I thought I had worked through already.
I got two out of the four drains out today!! Thankfully, the one that was the most painful was one that she removed! Holy crap those tubes were all up in my boobs! I didn’t realize the ridge I could feel across the top and through to the bottom was the drain tube!! She pulled the first one out and I almost jumped off the exam table! Yikes!! I did take two Advil before my appt-thanks SDWoman! The last two come out on Monday! I will also have my follow up with the BS on Monday and hopefully will get my pathology results too! I’m feeling better that things are moving along now. Thanks all for helping to cheer me up!
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Yay for getting drains out Misha! It’s quite an experience, isn’t it???? Yikes! I had one doctor on each side pulling them simultaneously so that was quite interesting as well.
Monday will come soon and you’ll be feeling so much better to have all those horrid things out and in the biohazard bin! 😊
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WiggingPulling on each side at the same time?! That sounds horrific! Did they do that for all four or did you get two out at a time?
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no the area hadn’t been looked at yet. I go on the 14th. I spent a bunch of money at target for things I hope will help... silicon pasty things, lidocaine Nubbinh cream another type of bra.
Wow guess I am not the only one with the oncotest waiting. Sorry that they had to postpone your appointment wigging.
So glad you got a couple drains out Misha. That sounds crazy painful to have them pulled out! Yikes
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wigging - Did the Onc tell you stwhat score he/she would recommend chemo?
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Misha-iI actually didn’t mind the two sided pulling out of the drains! It took less time! Haha! They took out two at my one week follow up and the other two at my 2 week follow up.
HPFULL I’m not exactly sure but I think my “magic number” might be 15? I go back on the 15th for the results. My appointment wasn’t actually moved, the doc just scheduled it a week later than normal to be sure that the results were back. I was glad at the time but now I’m getting very ready (but not ready) to know. Do you know what your “number” is? I really hope your pain settles down for you!
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I think my number was 16 or 17
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Happy New Year folks! You gals are so wonderful and welcoming - thanks for being so supportive to each other. I got my drain out on Wednesday and hallelujah. However, I guess the scar tissue under the arm and the numbness of the area still make me feel like the drain is there. It’s like I have a phantom feeling from the drain. Bleh.
Although I’m not fully healed, I got anxious and wanted to get going on this “new normal.” I went and got fitted for a prosthesis today and bought a few new mastectomy bras and even a swimsuit (no idea when I will actually be able to go swimming, but what the heck). My remaining boob is so small (right side was always a nearly A cup except when I was pregnant/nursing), that even the smallest size prosthesis for my left is a tiny bit bigger. Oh well! Hopefully, no one is staring that long at my boobs to notice!
I didn’t realize that insurance would pay for bras too (although mine only will pay for 2 a year - sometimes they will pay for 3), so that’s nice (although since the new year just started, I may have not met my deductible just yet).
No pathology report yet - like you gals, sounds like everything is delayed due to the holidays. Hoping for next week ! I am hoping they will do the Oncotype test as well, but I was wondering if that isn’t automatically done with the first round of pathology tests. I’ll probably get a referral to an oncologist next week.
How’s everyone’s physical therapy on your arms? I know a lot of you did reconstruction, but for anyone that didn’t, has anyone gotten range of motion back yet?
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Hi Everyone,
I am super late to the party, but I also had surgery in December, on 12/20. Am I too late to join the group? :-)
I was diagnosed with DCIS and IDC in my left breast in November, and am two weeks post-mastectomy (nipple sparing) and tissue expander placement with sentinel node biopsy. I only had one drain, but it was the worst thing ever - I truly feel for all of you that have to deal with multiple drains! I just got my drain out two days ago, and it was a bit painful, but the pain was brief. Nothing compared to being able to walk around without that grenade sloshing around!
The tissue expander is like a massive, rectangular brick - so wide!! I am wondering why it seems so disproportionately large for my frame...although I know that they say it will continue to project forward instead of out to the sides as they fill it...
My pathology came back last week at Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes. My oncologist told me that my risk of reccurrence is very low, so I won't need chemo. She did not offer an Oncotype test, and when I asked she said that my IDC tumor was so small (8 mm) that I don't qualify. Does this sound right? I notice that others on this site were diagnosed at Stage IA with no involved nodes, but still had the Onco testing. Of course I don't want chemo, and am so ecstatic about a pretty positive pathology report, but I am wondering how the doctor can be so certain that I won't benefit from chemo if we don't do the genomic testing.
Has anyone else been told that they don't need Oncotype DX (or similar) testing?
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welcome Calimom 😊 Maybe because the tumor was so small the didn’t order the Oncotype? They have something on this site about qualifying factors for the test. I would think you would be a candidate. It’s awesome that you don’t need chemo
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DVDiva, I had the phantom drain pain too. It went away after a couple of days though! The area is definitely “open” under there for awhile. I still have some bruising and some pretty good scabs around the drain sites. Those things are no joke! My Oncotype was not ordered with the first round of tests, it was done at my first appointment with oncology post surgery. It could be different for you though!
Welcome RCCalimom! It’s never too late to join up! I have no idea about criteria for Oncotype but I would absolutely ask your doctor if you are concerned. We only get one chance to fight this thing is the way I look at it, so I ask lots of questions if I have any doubts! My stats look similar to yours except my tumor was 1.7 cm so maybe the size really is the determining factor. I didn’t have TE so can’t relate there but my implants are wide and high! They have dropped a bit though and I’m starting to become friends with them 😉 slowly. When will you get your implants?
Happy weekend ladies! I worked 2 days this past week and slept for 2 hours when I got home yesterday from work. Man, I’m just tired!!!
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Strange question for you ladies who had BMX with reconstruction. Are any of you experiencing like a sunburn or friction type burn sensation? On both breasts in the areas where I do have feeling I have this strange feeling, kind of like the pain you might get if you were to rub a minor sunburn.....if that makes any sense. It's not red or warm at all. I also have it on the outer portion of my right breast and up along my bra strap. Since that part is rubbing it really is bothersome and ended up putting silky fabric to reduce the rubbing or make it softer. Maybe nerves repairing themselves?
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HPFULL I know what you mean about the nipples, I'm really sensitive after the reduction/reconstruction. The steri strips were removed this week and things are a little raw. I was told to use Neosporin for the next week or so, but the gauze I was putting over was not helping with the rubbing. A friend recommended nursing pads and those have really helped, they stay in place and provide a little padding as well.
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Had my Lumpectomy on Dec 20th. Still feeling pains and some large lumps around the site. Anyone else still having pain? I'm not sure what to expect. I was thinking this wouldn't last so long.
Also, BS called me the day after surgery to tell me path came in and instead of DCIS (results from biopsy) I have LCIS which is non cancer. Yay for Me! I'm thinking. Yet a bit confused that this new result overrides the first and just hoping that I get the correct care. The marker that was inserted during the biopsy migrated to the skin surface, so I question that they took out the correct location. I won't see the surgeon for a follow up until Jan 22nd. Any opinions or similar situations I'd love to get feedback.
DX- Nov 8 - DCIS Stage 0
LMX- Right Breast Dec 20th with LCIS results.
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Hello Ladies,
I have been trolling this community since my DX 10.23.18. Finally decided to join - if only to say thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns. It been of great comfort.
My story: Lumpectomy 6 weeks ago. Developed a huge hematoma the day after surgery. The colour and bruising have subsided but my left boob is still huge. At least 2x normal size. (My surgeon made ref to a certain baywatch actress - not very appropriate I would think). The hematoma/ seroma is probably about the size of a goose egg.
My question: Should I have this thing drained? There is some pain but not unmanageable. Mostly discomfort. I am concerned about internal scarring if I wait too long. I understand also hematoma/seroma can take many months to reabsorb on their own. I plan to delay Rads until this complication is resolved.
Has anyone experienced anything similar? Will my boob ever look normal again?
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Hi freezer! Welcome. Not cool for your surgeon to make bay watch reference. Sorry that happened. I am not sure about draining. What did your surgeon say?
Queenbee that is fantastic news 🙌
Mymommysgirl. Thanks for the nursing pad tip! Today I tried silicon scar tape and a tight soft sports bra and actually had some relief.
SDwoman I didn’t have BMX but I had reconstruction where they cut from under my boob to my back and flipped the tissue. I have that weird sunburn feeling too, so maybe it’s nerve pain. I hope you get some relief
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Hi all!
RcCalimom,
Regarding no oncotype testing. I have a similar profile as yours. Both my surgeon and oncologist agreed due to small tumor size no additional test was necessary. I was initially concerned, but have accepted this and moved on. BMX was 10/8 with exchange surgery on 12/20. I think I initially questioned everything, but have become more accepting of things.
Mary
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Hi All,
Wiggin, my reconstructive surgeon says she likes to wait for 12 weeks after the TEs are completely filled before doing the perm implant surgery. She wants to be sure that everything is totally healed...I am kind of hoping that she will decide we can do it a little sooner, though. I think my final fill may be this Wednesday!
SDWoman, I have weird electric flashes and sharp aches in my TE breast and that nipple - especially at night when I am trying to sleep - uggh! I am going to try the nursing pad solution.
Mary, thank you for posting - it makes me feel better to know that someone else with similar pathology was also told that they didn't need the Oncotype DX. We are so lucky, and I know what you mean about trusting and accepting - I am definitely trying to calm down and trust, and I do trust my doctors. I still can't help but wonder exactly why we are skipping the test, though, so I will probably bother the MO and ask again, and make the office tell me exactly WHY I don't qualify.
Re the Phantom drain pain - my drain site holes are also sore and that whole area itches...I had tape sensitivity. This my 15th day home from the hospital, and I am feeling muchhh better than I ever imagined, though. Going to see Bumblebee with my husband and kids soon - yay! I hope you all are having a good Sunday!
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Rccali,
Glad that you are feeling better and are off to the movies! Going out makes you feel so much better! Popcorn also helps too!
As for me both the surgeon and the oncologist said that since the tumor was so small, genetics was negative, nodes were clean, there was more chance of the lab “muddying up” the specimen. So now on to tamoxifen! I had a very quick turn around for me. Dx 9/12, BMX 10/8, exchange surgery 12/20. It has been a whirlwind. I start work tomorrow. Funny that now after most of the hard part is over, I have gotten more pensive about things. Good luck.
Oh and after my exchange surgery we just figure out that I was allergic to the skin glue! Ugh!
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