Recovery Time for Lumpectomy with sentinel node biopsy?

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kec1972
kec1972 Member Posts: 269

I’m going in for this on Monday 1/7. Just wondering how long I should plan to Ben out of commission for...days? A week? I need to plan for my kids activities. Thanks

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  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited January 2019

    Hi!

    I went back to work (part-time) the day after my lumpectomy. But, I'm probably not typical. I did try to keep up with my kids, and was swimming with them, maybe two weeks afterwards. But, then I had to stop for radiation......

    Will you be getting a drain? I had all 20 of my Levels 1 and 2 lymph nodes removed, so I got a drain. That thing was annoying, and I didn't realize that I'd have gotten rid of it faster if I hadn't been so active. If you do get a drain, take some time to get some rest. In fact, you should give yourself a week or so to just chill a bit. Maybe, ask some friends if they can help you with your kids' activities.

    Good luck!

  • MLAnne
    MLAnne Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2019

    Lumpectomy and 2 sentinel nodes 10/15/18. My surgeon really pushed me to take a full week off. I did begin exercising 2 days later - very light. But the incisions bled some and bras hurt so I only put one on if I was leaving the house. Because I work with the public, I was glad to be able to stay home bra-less until the areas healed better.

  • Parrynd1
    Parrynd1 Member Posts: 408
    edited January 2019

    I was out of bed the next day and only had my drains in for 4 days (because of the weekend or they would have been out sooner). Depending on your line of work I think you could manage going back soon. I don’t have kids so I’m sure there is more that goes in to it, but maybe plan to be out for a week just in case. If you can go back sooner then cancel the plans. If not then you had it taken care of ahead of time and maybe an extra day or 2 to rest, even if you feel ok, isn’t a bad thing. You may feel fine, but your body is still healing inside where you can’t see or may feel. Wouldn’t hurt to take it easy if you can.

    Hope it all goes well for you. My surgery was pretty easy, but I also had a lot of family help and am very blessed in that. The drains and bra are hideous. I don’t miss that one bit.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    am I going to have a drain for sure? My surgeon didn’t mention that

  • Elephant
    Elephant Member Posts: 88
    edited January 2019

    I think getting a drain is pretty standard. I had a drain in for 2 days only and went straight back to work.

  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited January 2019

    I didn't have a drain after lumpectomy/sentinel node biopsy. I had my procedure on a Friday, took the next week off work then went back the following Monday. It was too soon and I probably should have taken 2 weeks. I had a lot of pain from the node areas that needed pain meds for a couple of weeks. I guess it depends on which nerves get affected. The breast itself was fine with minimal pain Everyone is different but I definitely didn't bounce back quickly the way others have, and I was in great shape (taught aerobics) prior to diagnosis. I didn't get back into exercise until radiation was over. Even then the arm/shoulder just isn't the same. So you never know. I would plan on a solid week with a back up plan in case you need to take it easy longer.

  • downdog
    downdog Member Posts: 1,432
    edited January 2019

    kec1972, a SNB typically means 1 or 2 nodes are removed and does not require a drain, if this is a separate incision site from your lumpectomy. If your tumor is in the axillary tail, then your surgeon will be able to access the sentinel node(s) through the lumpectomy incision. Since you have been clinically staged as 1A, it is unlikely that your surgeon would remove more than 1 or 2. A SNB is 1-4 nodes. Only in the event that your BS thought your nodes looked suspicious would more be removed. Some hospitals do a quick test in the OR.Many women have more pain associated with their SNB than their lumpectomy, but everyone is different. My lumpectomy and SNB were not painful and I only took pain relievers the first day and was back to everyday activities the following day, just being careful about lifting weight on the surgery side. The size of your tumor is a factor, as a large tumor requires the excision of a greater amount of tissue for the margin. The void created by the removal of a tumor can fill with fluid (called a seroma), which can be drained, aspirated or left to resolve on its own. Your level of health and fitness going into this procedure (barring complications), will be a factor in your recovery. Best wishes for a quick recovery.



  • wallycat
    wallycat Member Posts: 3,227
    edited January 2019

    My only "gripe" from the sentinel node removal was some initial range of motion limitations. I had DH to grab cups or dishes that were higher up. If you live alone, move some of your items for easier access or invest in a step-stool. Within a week, I was back to yoga as if nothing happened. No drains (I had 5 nodes removed) and no pain, minus the range of motion limit initially.

    Best to you!

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    Thank you all for sharing your experiences. Based on my results so far(no abnormalities in axilla region on ultrasound or MRI, no abnormalities seen on MRI in the remainder of the affected breast, ruled out lymphatic invasion via biopsy path report), does it sound like they’ll need to remove nodes other than testing the sentinel?

  • PurpleCat
    PurpleCat Member Posts: 358
    edited January 2019

    Your dx sounds very similar to mine. I had my lumpectomy and SNB as separate procedures 2 weeks apart, both on Thursdays, and was back to work by Monday both times, although my job is pretty sedentary. I underestimated how sore and stiff I was going to be after the SNB, which took just 3 nodes. I used the arm as little as possible and mostly held it close to my body, so much that coworkers commented on it. There was noticeable improvement week by week, and by the end of the 4th week I felt not quite back to pre-surgery comfort but close enough that I could use the arm normally again. It would have been difficult to take care of young children, but kids old enough to fetch and carry things and help with some household tasks would have been amazing.

  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited January 2019

    Hopefully they will just take a couple of nodes. Probably unless they do in the OR pathology and find something. I had three taken out but I believe they were super close together so all considered sentinel. I had one with cancer found in it, so I had to get radiation to the node area. There was no indication that I had a compromised node based on imaging, so the 2.1 mm hanging out in there surprised everyone.

    Make sure you do the post surgical stretches they give you to prevent a frozen shoulder. I was allowed to start that at day 7 post op and still do them every morning. Otherwise it still tightens up 2 years later.

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited January 2019

    Had a lumpectomy with sentinel node biopsy, 2 nodes removed. No drain. Took a couple days off post surgery, worked from home the following week, back in the office the week after. Took ibuprofen the first couple days, stopped it after that because I didn't need it (not in pain) and didn't like that it caused constipation (sorry if TMI!). Really need to adhere to the no heavy lifting thing because I was feeling so good the week after that I helped move some cabinet doors and shouldn't have - it caused the lumpectomy scar to bleed and prob heal slower / not as well if I didn't do that.

    Whether they remove sentinel or axillary nodes is up to YOU. Sounds like they will recommend only removing sentinel nodes based on your results. Mine showed no signs of cancer in all the imaging etc. so did a sentinel node biopsy only, came out with positive sentinel nodes in the pathology. I then declined a further axillary node dissection due to the high risk of lymphedema (40%!) and chose to treat the nodes with radiation instead. Also because of this study:

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2653737

    Ultimately you have to sign off on whatever surgery they do so while the docs will make recommendations the final choice is yours.

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited January 2019

    I had one node removed, no drain. The node incision was much more uncomfortable than the tumor one, due to nerve endings. Ice is your best friend. I took a pain pill at night the first few days, but did fine with Motrin or Tylenol during the day. Anti-inflammatories, so they also minimize swelling even if you don't need one of them for pain. I found a snug sports bra very helpful to prevent swelling or discoloration. I've never heard of node removal being left up to the patient! They usually can't tell if there's node involvement until we're opened up, and the tracer dye injected before surgery shows up (or not).

    You might visit the Lumpectomy Lounge for lots of good advice.

  • santabarbarian
    santabarbarian Member Posts: 3,085
    edited January 2019

    Just had my Lumpectomy on Friday (so this is day 5) and the surgeon removed about a ping pong ball worth of tissue...my clip, w/ border, one formerly involved axillary node, and three sentinel nodes. No drain was needed. I took one pain pill Friday afternoon to nap. Thereafter, I have only used ice off and on. No pain. Just a slight tender/swollen feeling. I have been pleasantly surprised by the ease. Hope that happens for you too!!

  • PebblesV
    PebblesV Member Posts: 658
    edited January 2019

    Alicebastab - re: never hearing of node removal being up to the patient, there’s actually a thread here with others who have also declined further lymph node removals, or declined upfront:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/91/topics/769178

    It’s inportant for all of us to know that anything that is going to be done to your body is up to you. This is why we have to sign so many papers before they do surgery or other treatments. There is a lot of liability if doctors are going to perform things without our consent! Legally they cannot, we have to consent first.

    I consented to the sentinel node biopsy, which was separately outlined from the lumpectomy. Both were done at the same time but I had to provide my consent for both procedures. And I declined a further axillary node dissection for various reasons. The surgeon was great in being forthcoming about the risks, benefits and expectations for both procedures and what she recommended, but she also stressed the final decision was up to me

    Ultimately we all have to choose what’s right for us and feel good about it!

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    How long did you all wait to shower? My surgeon said I could shower 24 hours later, but that seems so soon...btw, I’m 48 hours out, and still feeling a bit groggy. I did have a hard time with the general anesthesia(dizziness and nausea).


  • alto
    alto Member Posts: 233
    edited January 2019

    I would follow up with your nurse or doctor if you are concerned - I would think it's safer not to shower if you're feeling groggy and might injure yourself - but they can tell you what is right in this situation.

    FWIW, the first time I showered 72 hours (3 days) after, and the second time, I showered 48 hours after. Both times, I had a plastic covering I was supposed to remove with the shower, so I did it at the end of the shower and just let the clean shower water run onto my back and over my shoulder.

    When I had a biopsy, one of the nurses told me to always stand with my back to the shower head as long as I had the stitches in, never face the shower head, and I've followed that with all the surgeries, too. I stand with my back to the shower head and let the water fall over my head/shoulder onto the rest of the body. If you have a detachable shower head you can use for your legs/feet, be careful not to reach up for it with your affected arm.

    I asked my spouse to stay close by and listen, in case I needed anything.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    Hi Ladies, just something I wanted to run by you all. I had my lumpectomy with SNB this past Monday 1/7... today is Saturday 1/12 and though the pain and soreness are minimal(I am managing fine with 2 Advil per day) and the incisions site itself appears to be healing fine, I find that I am still still pretty wiped out and need to nap during the day. Is this normal for less than a week out? I've been trying to keep up with some of the light housework and even went out for half hour walks 2 days in a row for air, maybe I'm overdoing it?

  • gb2115
    gb2115 Member Posts: 1,894
    edited January 2019

    I was exhausted for about two weeks after my lumpectomy, I think the anesthesia messes you up for a bit, plus you use energy to heal. If your body is telling you to nap, you probably should.

    Hang in there!!

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    yes, i did have difficulty with the anesthesia(made me very nauseous), so that may play into it. I'm doing my best to stay hydrated and eating nutritionally dense foods, but wow I wasn't counting on this fatigue! Not easy for someone who is used to daily workouts.Hoping it only lasts the two weeks like yours did hugs

  • bella2013
    bella2013 Member Posts: 489
    edited January 2019

    Kec1972,

    It’s easy to assume that a Lumpectomy is just outpatient and not a big deal. That is not true. A lumpectomy is a major surgery. It’s basically a partial mastectomy. Not only was the pre-op difficult but you were likely under anesthesia for at least two hours. That’s a big deal. Also the emotional stress from diagnosis thru the lumpectomy takes a huge toll on you.

    Be good to yourself. If your body is experiencing fatigue just go with it and rest. You will get back to your normal energy level, but for now your body is telling you what it needs...lots of rest.

    Remember, your body has been battling cancer, it really is tired.

    Happy rest and lot’s of sleep for now!

    ((Hugs)

  • AliceBastable
    AliceBastable Member Posts: 3,461
    edited January 2019

    If you live somewhere with decent weather, try to get out and walk. Not power walks, but enough to get you upright and breathing deeply. I'm not an exerciser, but I found that a walk in one of our woodsy local parks, on a level path, made me feel better than anything else.

  • kec1972
    kec1972 Member Posts: 269
    edited January 2019

    Alice I did take 1/2 hour walks 2 days in a row, but my head just feels so tired. I have my one week follow up with my surgeon tomorrow, hoping this fatigue is all normal! So not used to it

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