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  • Utopria
    Utopria Member Posts: 204
    edited December 2018

    yes I remember someone else picked up the tab - not my insurance..I think it was genomic labs.. pls talk to your MO or his office staff ...they will know of other financial options...

    Thankyou all for your support after reading my story...these boards have been an invaluable resource...there is always someone more "senior" to you and who can guide you..

    Love to you all and good luck..


  • MLAnne
    MLAnne Member Posts: 83
    edited December 2018

    Rdh and Alice~ I do plan on raising a little heck. Don't know if I will be successful or not but I will try.


    edwards~ I haven't actually received Genomic Labs' bill yet but when I do, I will be inquiring about a payment plan if my appeal with the insurance company gets me nowhere. Also, I think Genomic Labs is the ONLY company that does the Oncotype, which is the reason I think the out-of-network classification is stupid. There isn't another option in-network.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited December 2018

    I believe you are right they are the only lab that performs the Oncotype test. If BC hadturned me down I would have appealed it. My BS was irate that insurance companies make us jump through hoops for a test that can dodge chemo which is really expensive. My MO said they were pushing the test because women have been over treated for years. This test gives them more info about your particular tumor.

    Good luck.

    Diane

  • PrincessButtercup
    PrincessButtercup Member Posts: 200
    edited December 2018

    MLAnne, that's terrible! And yes, they are the only lab that does this test.

  • Utopria
    Utopria Member Posts: 204
    edited December 2018

    ladies - I found a thread dealing with insurance issue for oncotype testing, in case you haven’t seen it..

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/113/topics/858331?page=1#

    Good luck

  • LillianGish
    LillianGish Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2018

    Hi,

    I'm an insurance broker/consultant to employers. The problem may be how the benefit schedule is set up. Is this PPO Plan? If you get your medical insurance through an employer, they may be able to change the plan design. I think I read the carrier is saying they consider it medically necessary, but Genomics doesn't have provider contract with them.

    I'm guessing the Oncotype and Mammaprint companies are not likely in-network for many insurance carriers on a PPO plan - so what the employer can do is amend their benefit plan so as to cover genomic testing as in-network because there are no other providers that can do this important and cost saving test. An employer probably has no idea their plan was set up this way, and it would cost next to nothing to tell their medical plans to cover it at in-network benefit level. Explain to them why it actually saves money and saves putting people through unnecessary treatment. It isn't an exception just for you - don't let them tell you it's discriminatory - you are suggesting they change the plan for everyone in this situation. They can change the plan any time.

    The insurance companies have likely approached Genomics and Mammaprint providers to negotiate a price to be an in-network provider, and were told no because those companies know they are the only game in town and they have a monopoly. Total guess on my part.

    If you get your insurance through somewhere else - like an individual medical plan on your own or through an exchange...you're not going to be able to get them to change the plan. In which case lean HARD on the insurance companies and call your State Dept. of Insurance to complain. If you are in an HMO, appeal to your Primary Care medical group - they should pay for the test if they referred you there. The Dept. of Insurance will investigate and perhaps rattle some cages. Keep asking - what preferred providers do you have that do this test? Because if you don't, then your network is not adequate for breast cancer patients!O

    PS - do you have any money in your flexible spending account, HSA or HRA plans? I know it's your money, but it's pre-tax and would save about 30% on the bill. This is an eligible claims for any of those plans.

  • MLAnne
    MLAnne Member Posts: 83
    edited December 2018

    LillianGish~ Even if I went to my employer to amend the plan, I assume that wouldn't retroactively apply to me. It would only help my co-workers down the road, right?

    My plan is a high deductible narrow network plan, which I though wouldn't be a problem because I live in a large metropolitan area known for high-quality health care and the network included one of the main players. I easily met the deductible for this year by the needle biopsy, so the surgery and everything after was covered. (I will obviously be starting over in 2019 but I guess it won't take me too long into chemo to meet my deductible again.)

    As for my HSA, the yearly limit on contributions is $3500 (at least for 2019, can't remember what 2018 was) - my deductible is slightly less than that and the Oncotype is over $4000. So there clearly won't be anywhere near the amount available when it is needed.

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited December 2018

    We were told by BC that since an OON facility was the only one that could perform my husband’s test his doctor could contact them for an exception. She fumbled the ball and didn’t do itso we appealed the OON charge and won the appeal.

    Diane

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