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  • candy-678
    candy-678 Member Posts: 3,950
    edited November 2018

    I wanted to post something that has been rolling around in my head, but I didn't know which thread to post it. So here goes....

    Do any of you feel this way???

    I was talking with a friend this weekend and he said " I cannot believe you have cancer.  You are still working.  You still attend church ( we attend the same church ).  You look healthy"---he meant not grey, skinny, frail.     And really I feel pretty good overall, I guess.  I have fatigue and pain, but it is doable so far.  I am still up and around and living life.   So I started thinking.   We are told that these meds are slowing the cancer.  There is no cure.  This will eventually be terminal.    And then I think-- how will it progress?  When?  I don't feel terminal yet. 

    Is there a "normal" way this goes???   Does the liver tumor start growing bigger, since we know it is in the liver and we watch the liver every 3 months with CT??    Will the cancer spread to other areas not effected yet??  Will I one day have a seizure or can't talk and know it has spread to the brain, will I have trouble breathing and know it has spread to the lungs, will I have GI problems and it has spread to the GI tract?? 

     Those with progression on here--How does it progress??   How does it eventually kill us??

     Will I live 1 more year, or like some have posted, 10 years??   Or more.  No one knows.  So just waiting for the other shoe to drop and never knowing when it will happen.

    What should I expect to happen with MBC???

    I need to have this conversation with my MO, but as you all know our doc appointments are limited and I have other things to discuss when I see my MO.  

    Thoughts...….

  • Parrynd1
    Parrynd1 Member Posts: 408
    edited November 2018

    Candy, my friends do the same. On some note I am in disbelief with them. All the things you mentioned are possible. From what I’ve heard and asked my MO there’s no normal but more like ‘statistics say...’ I think it also depends on where your cancer has metastasized and how aggressive it is. For me extremely aggressive and it’s my brain, lungs, breast and skin so even though I feel fine (as per cancer normal fine) I could have a seizure at any point and that’s it. Or one day I could just have exhausted all treatment options and told you have x amount of time most likely due to tumor growth and mets. What will do us in eventually? No one can say. That’s what’s scary for me, but then again I could get hit by a bus tomorrow. As much as we want to quantify our time and know exact answers, cancer in treatment and prognosis doesn’t favor exact answers. It sucks for someone like me who plans everything out and is precise, but I’ve learned to let go a bit. I don’t want to give cancer anymore of my time or emotion than I can help. Am I good at that, lol, no but I try. Doing normal things helps me feel like a human with a life and that is a way I cope. Talking on here is a way I cope and find support and comfort. I expect to have bad streaks where my scans just aren’t looking better or are worse or there are more mets, where treatment after treatment fails, but I also hope to have good scans, and long runs with a single treatment. MBC is a roller coaster at a twisted circus you didn’t want to go to and are paying to attend. I will say one thing that caught me off guard was the skin mets and how much I have come to be self conscious of it. It’s on the bad breast and I just hate that boob now. If I could get rid of it I would in a heartbeat or two. So be prepared to not be prepared sometimes. I know that sounds crazy, but I hope it helps. I’m sure there’s more others can add as well as this is just from my own head and experience.
  • illimae
    illimae Member Posts: 5,710
    edited November 2018

    “Stage IV undercover badass”, I love that!

  • gailmary
    gailmary Member Posts: 332
    edited November 2018

    Candy, i have had many of the same thoughts. I dont have the answers but im getting closer. For a while i didnt want to hear. It wad too scary. But now i think ive heard enough that I'm not as scared as i was. Mainly cause my dr thinks it will go very well for me and repeats that at every visit. Im grade1. At my first visit he explained how we start with AI's and eventually do IV chemo a few different ones even. An theres all kinds of sgudies going on. Imconfident we will benefit from it. Please try not to waste time dwelling on the unknown.

    Instead, now i cant let go of the comments my sister made. According to her you cant research anything on line. The best places to go for care are referrals by friends. Even to the extent that i should fly from milwaukee to florida to see the best chinese medicine dr. for side effects. Shocked she didnt suggest i go direct to China. And God forbid i go to the Health Hut to find relief from side effects. She angered me on so many levels. I never got out all i had to say and she's firing off advice and attacking everything i said. Then im left feeling like no one wants to hear my complaints or understands. DH is great but im so bothered, cant let go and sound like a damn broken record.

    Im gonna go meditate. Hugs to all

  • Parrynd1
    Parrynd1 Member Posts: 408
    edited November 2018

    gailmary, you are not alone! I had a lady talk my ear off for over an hour about all these different herbs and medicines. I’m open to that stuff and I appreciate how much she cared. Sometimes it’s just frustrating and people who aren’t going through it can only ‘get it’ so much.

  • Crazeejane
    Crazeejane Member Posts: 51
    edited November 2018

    I think one of the many things all of us have in common with this is that people who don’t know us would never be able to tell most days that every day we wake up and fight. You are so right when you say on the outside we can look perfectly fine but on the inside it’s completely different. So many days I just want to say “screw it” and rebel and skip all the pills and just live.....but I know that I can’t and I think that is what really bothers me....the fact that my whole life was turned upside down in an instant and now I’m stuck with the treatments and bloodwork and appointments. Yes I put on a smile and do my best not to think about it, however it’s always there lingering in the background. To those that have been doing this for years I commend you greatly because I am just at the beginning of this journey and I hate it all ready. The unknown just sucks!!! Next month I am scheduled to have my first set of scans since starting treatment and I am seriously stressing. But I keep it to myself because I don’t want my family to know. I don’t want them to know how hard it is for me to be strong all of the time. I don’t want them to know that at times I wanna crawl into a hole and just stay there.

  • dorimak
    dorimak Member Posts: 147
    edited March 2019

    Just came across this thread. My original DX Stage II was in 2001. The reaction of people around me took more out of me than the actual treatments (surgery, radio, chemo) and for years...like years...I'd be out enjoying a night and someone would ask was I still okay...am I sure...There were the people who were encouraging and then the others who had stories of women who went 10, 15, 20 years and then got a recurrence and were gone in a few months. I had a friend who passed away last month after a ten year journey with ovarian cancer. What broke her heart was she was just seen as her disease. People mean well but often all she was asked how she was doing medicalaly and what treatments she was on etc. Her kids are now 21 and 17 and it used to make her feel like a disease because the normal conversations about kids, vacations were overshadowed by having to explain her latest treatment. She had had this great career in New York and there were many people who never knew that about her. She was just the woman on disability and doing clinical trials and chemo. Her husband couldn't go out for an evening without having to explain what her latest treatment, health status was. For that reason I have kept my DX to a small circle and family. It leaked after my original Stage IV dx (ironically from that friend with ovarian cancer who I had asked that she keep it quiet) a few years ago but most assume that it's been taken care of. While I struggle at times, it's less exhausting to enjoy and live as much a normal life as possible instead of people speculating how long I have or talking about the disease that has taken enough from me already. Sorry ,that's my RANT.

  • Crazeejane
    Crazeejane Member Posts: 51
    edited April 2019

    Today I made the decision to take my life back and stop treatment. Call me crazy but it's what I have decided to do. I know what it means and I have thought about it fully and I am just going to go on with my life like I was before until I can't anymore. Even if it's a shorter period of time than what I had originally hoped for since I was young, I'm going to love each day as best as I can. Also My husband and I are the only ones that know about my decision. We have decided to keep it to ourselves because I don't want to hear all of the opinions of everyone around me about what's i have decided. It's just gotten to be too much

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